Bego82: withdrawal hell and best wishes to all

[rmce72a]

I know you are so frustrated with everything, at this point. You have obviously had some very bad advice and treatment from doctors who should know better, but sadly most don't. Please continue to trust the advice of mods here and try to be patient. I know how hard it is. I am in WD hell too. Sending you comforting thoughts and prayers for better days.

[Fifree]

Oh there are plenty of horror stories on here about Lexapro too! I think it’s very individual - you don’t know until you try it. So far so good for me, apart from when I made a giant cut from 20 mg to 10 mg and was on antibiotics at the same time.  I’ve recovered from that tho which is good. 
 

Hopefully the rest will go smoothly for both of us. 

[Bego82]

Well done @Fifree I’m glad that you made it. 
 

It sounds like you’re almost there.

[Fifree]

Thank you @Bego82  are you feeling any better?

 

Ive been reading a few threads today and I saw that Oaktree1 is in a similar situation to you - recovering from Cymbalta (another snri) withdrawals while tapering remeron. It might be useful to check out their experience with it too. 

[FindRest]

8 hours ago, Bego82 said:

If you've gone through a similar kind of hell - which looks like you did - you should know a little bit better... Otherwise you'd have offered help or encouragement about quitting the other drug, but where were you?

 

8 hours ago, Bego82 said:

 If you're kicking me out of this forum maybe you're one of the lucky ones. Or maybe it's you who shouldn't be here at all, as this is a place of COMPASSION.

 

Wow, I was trying to help and I was not judging, but it looks like you were. I have no clue what you are referring to about not helping you taper the “other” drug. “where were you?” … I don’t appreciate your hostile tone and that’s no way to reach out for help if you’re really wanting someone to take time out of their busy life and voluntarily give it to you. No thanks.

I gave you compassion and truth. This site runs on both. The truth is if you’re asking for help here from the moderators on how to start a new antidepressant, I doubt you will get it as SA is a place to help people get OFF psych drugs, not on them. 
 

Respect will go far when seeking help.

Edited March 5, 2023 by FindRest

[Shep]

13 hours ago, Bego82 said:

That's not either nice nor fair. I obviously don’t want to go back antidepressants or I wouldn't be saying a word in here. And I’ve been here long enough to know how this forum works, thank you very much.

 

 

@Bego82Please note what FindRest wrote was a very fair response to someone who's been a member here for over a year and knows how the forum works. You stated:

 

On 3/3/2023 at 11:07 AM, Bego82 said:

Is anybody reading? Moderators, please, I’m about to start taking Prozac, and I’m scared

 

And then you go on to detail your prescribers ill-advised advice. We simply can't help you with adding in Prozac. We're not medical experts here and we need to be very clear on what we can and can't do, for ethical and legal reasons. 

 

Your full post on March 3 was full of mixed messaging at best. Giving tapering advice is difficult enough when we know what members are asking. When we're presented with someone who starts a post off with a definitive "I'm about to start taking Prozac", we take them at their word. If you aren't seriously interested in taking your doctor's advice, it's up to you to let us know. We take these kinds of statements very seriously. Combining Prozac with Mirtazapine, even for a few weeks, can cause serotonin syndrome, as listed here in this drug interaction checker: 

 

Drug Interaction Checker - Prozac and Mirtazapine

 

We aren't able to help you do something that may very well put you in a crisis state. 

 

I also want to address your statement:

 

13 hours ago, Bego82 said:

I'm on my own, so don't judge me. If you've gone through a similar kind of hell - which looks like you did - you should know a little bit better... Otherwise you'd have offered help or encouragement about quitting the other drug, but where were you?

 

If I wanted to be judged I wouldn't be here sharing my life with strangers. I obviously don't have any other devices, as I'm alone in the world, what about you? If you're kicking me out of this forum maybe you're one of the lucky ones. Or maybe it's you who shouldn't be here at all, as this is a place of COMPASSION.

 

I don't think FindRest was judging you, but rather she was judging your doctor. From your responses, it's clear you are you, too. And that's good! Yes, your doctor is giving very bad drug tapering advice. 

 

No one wants you to leave this site. FindRest's post stating there are other forums for people who want to make reckless drugging decisions is simply a fact - there are better places than Surviving Antidepressants for this. This forum exists within a framework of harm reduction. It's a strict protocol that some find too restrictive. There are less restrictive forums out there. Some forums are focused on social support more than tapering and people who are doing other types of tapering (cold turkey, fast tapers, augmenting with other drugs, etc.) find those forums to be exactly what they need. Whenever we feel our forum isn't a good fit, we try to find a better fit so that people get the social support they need and aren't left in the cold alone. 

 

I'm not sure what you mean by "but where were you?" in the above quote. Please note the moderator who was helping you when you first came to the forum in 2021, Kiasofia, passed away. As much as we try to catch every post that comes through, we tend to focus on posts that require an answer. Your two posts in February were responses to another member inquiring how you were doing and then you gave an update without asking any questions. We are catching up on handling threads that may have been missed due to the absence of a moderator, but we target our posts to people who are asking questions. 

 

If you do wish to stick around for advice here, please update your signature so we know where you're at. It hasn't been updated since 2021. 

 

I just read your thread and from what you've written, if you're still using a lot of supplements, that may be your problem. You're already taking a sedating drug, mirtazapine, and adding in sedating supplements is likely causing paradoxical reactions. The more you try to dampen down (i.e. sedate) your brain, the more it fights to stay alert. This creates paradoxical reactions, which are alerting (activating) reactions. Dealing with the supplements may be a way you can stabilize before resuming your mirtazapine taper. If this is something you'd like to discuss, please update your signature and let us know where you're at with your mirtazapine and your supplements.

 

What we need:

• an updated signature for drugs, including over-the-counter drugs, and any supplements
• what time(s) you take mirtazapine and your supplements. Please list the time o'clock, name of the drug or supplement, and the dose