curiousnootropics Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 I have been having wierd tension in my left upper back, shoulder and neck for a while and it is very tough to deal with. Right side is not affected at all. Anyone else have this? I have tried massage, chiropractors etc with no success. Stretching and foam rolling makes it worse. Zoloft, November 2019. I worked up to 50 mg and stayed there until 1 year later. I tapered for 3 months, which should consider to be cold turkey. Tapering schedule: Month 1: 37.5 mg Month 2: 25 mg Month 3: 12.5 mg Month 4(Half the month): 6.75 mg Month 4(Other half): 0 mg December 9, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneGirlStitch Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Not of much help but my right side, mostly my leg, nothing I do will relax it. I try different positions, it will sometime "lessens" it, but it doesn't cure it. Is yours constant? Stretching doesn't do much, but its ok if someone rubs it, but only while its being massaged. How does heat work for it? Current: Bupropion 450mg, Neurontin 800mg, Klonopin 0.5mg History: July 2020: started Cogentin 1mg, Lamictal 50mg, Zoloft 150mg, Zyprexa 5mg (+5mg as needed), Klonopin 0.5mg November 2020: stopped all meds cold-turkey February 2021: started Latuda 60mg, Lithium 300mg, Melatonin 5mg, Protonix 40mg, Topamax 25mg 2 weeks later: stopped Topamax, increased Lithium 900mg, started Klonopin 1mg, Lexapro 20mg, Neurontin 400mg April 2021: started Bupropion 150mg, Revia ?mg May 2021: stopped Revia, Protonix, Lexapro, increased Neurontin 800mg, started Celexa 10mg August 2021: decreased Celexa 5mg (stopped Celexa 2 weeks later), increased Bupropion 300mg September 2021: increased Latuda 80mg October 2021: decreased Lithium 600mg for 4 days, Lithium 300mg for 4 days, stopped Lithium, Latuda, increased Bupropion 450mg, started Remeron 15mg, decreased Remeron 7.5mg, stopped Remeron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curiousnootropics Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 14 hours ago, ThatOneGirlStitch said: Not of much help but my right side, mostly my leg, nothing I do will relax it. I try different positions, it will sometime "lessens" it, but it doesn't cure it. Is yours constant? Stretching doesn't do much, but its ok if someone rubs it, but only while its being massaged. How does heat work for it? Mine has been constant for 1 year now. Stretching and trying lacrosse ball makes it way worse. It must be related to withdrawal, I have done all tests.. Heat makes it less worse Zoloft, November 2019. I worked up to 50 mg and stayed there until 1 year later. I tapered for 3 months, which should consider to be cold turkey. Tapering schedule: Month 1: 37.5 mg Month 2: 25 mg Month 3: 12.5 mg Month 4(Half the month): 6.75 mg Month 4(Other half): 0 mg December 9, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneGirlStitch Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 On 12/31/2021 at 8:25 PM, curiousnootropics said: Mine has been constant for 1 year now. Stretching and trying lacrosse ball makes it way worse. It must be related to withdrawal, I have done all tests.. Heat makes it less worse Yeah heat helps, or somebody constantly massaging it, but thats not sustainable. When its bad I take an epson salt bath. 5 cups of salt. Hot as I can get it. Force myself to stay in the water for 20-30 min. As soon as Im out of the bath. I put on the heating pad while lying in the most comfortable position I can get. It doesn't cure it but it makes it bareable. Does massage make it worse for you? Current: Bupropion 450mg, Neurontin 800mg, Klonopin 0.5mg History: July 2020: started Cogentin 1mg, Lamictal 50mg, Zoloft 150mg, Zyprexa 5mg (+5mg as needed), Klonopin 0.5mg November 2020: stopped all meds cold-turkey February 2021: started Latuda 60mg, Lithium 300mg, Melatonin 5mg, Protonix 40mg, Topamax 25mg 2 weeks later: stopped Topamax, increased Lithium 900mg, started Klonopin 1mg, Lexapro 20mg, Neurontin 400mg April 2021: started Bupropion 150mg, Revia ?mg May 2021: stopped Revia, Protonix, Lexapro, increased Neurontin 800mg, started Celexa 10mg August 2021: decreased Celexa 5mg (stopped Celexa 2 weeks later), increased Bupropion 300mg September 2021: increased Latuda 80mg October 2021: decreased Lithium 600mg for 4 days, Lithium 300mg for 4 days, stopped Lithium, Latuda, increased Bupropion 450mg, started Remeron 15mg, decreased Remeron 7.5mg, stopped Remeron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curiousnootropics Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 14 hours ago, ThatOneGirlStitch said: Yeah heat helps, or somebody constantly massaging it, but thats not sustainable. When its bad I take an epson salt bath. 5 cups of salt. Hot as I can get it. Force myself to stay in the water for 20-30 min. As soon as Im out of the bath. I put on the heating pad while lying in the most comfortable position I can get. It doesn't cure it but it makes it bareable. Does massage make it worse for you? No but it does not make it go away either. I think it is GABA-related for me: https://www.ondietandhealth.com/gaba-deficiency-symptoms/ - "Anxiety; worry; fear; Muscle tension, especially in shoulders, neck and jaw" I'm thinking of trying L-theanine or Taurine to help me out Zoloft, November 2019. I worked up to 50 mg and stayed there until 1 year later. I tapered for 3 months, which should consider to be cold turkey. Tapering schedule: Month 1: 37.5 mg Month 2: 25 mg Month 3: 12.5 mg Month 4(Half the month): 6.75 mg Month 4(Other half): 0 mg December 9, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneGirlStitch Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 8 hours ago, curiousnootropics said: No but it does not make it go away either. I think it is GABA-related for me: https://www.ondietandhealth.com/gaba-deficiency-symptoms/ - "Anxiety; worry; fear; Muscle tension, especially in shoulders, neck and jaw" I'm thinking of trying L-theanine or Taurine to help me out I would not be surprised if it is Gaba related. Everthing seems to go back to gaba, the nervous system or receptors. I've heard that L-theanine can help people. Start with a little and watch for negative reactions. I believe there is a thread here on that supplement. I'm trying to get myself pumped to try fish oil I'm not sure I can handle supplements. If you decide to try it let me know. Current: Bupropion 450mg, Neurontin 800mg, Klonopin 0.5mg History: July 2020: started Cogentin 1mg, Lamictal 50mg, Zoloft 150mg, Zyprexa 5mg (+5mg as needed), Klonopin 0.5mg November 2020: stopped all meds cold-turkey February 2021: started Latuda 60mg, Lithium 300mg, Melatonin 5mg, Protonix 40mg, Topamax 25mg 2 weeks later: stopped Topamax, increased Lithium 900mg, started Klonopin 1mg, Lexapro 20mg, Neurontin 400mg April 2021: started Bupropion 150mg, Revia ?mg May 2021: stopped Revia, Protonix, Lexapro, increased Neurontin 800mg, started Celexa 10mg August 2021: decreased Celexa 5mg (stopped Celexa 2 weeks later), increased Bupropion 300mg September 2021: increased Latuda 80mg October 2021: decreased Lithium 600mg for 4 days, Lithium 300mg for 4 days, stopped Lithium, Latuda, increased Bupropion 450mg, started Remeron 15mg, decreased Remeron 7.5mg, stopped Remeron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curiousnootropics Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 32 minutes ago, ThatOneGirlStitch said: I would not be surprised if it is Gaba related. Everthing seems to go back to gaba, the nervous system or receptors. I've heard that L-theanine can help people. Start with a little and watch for negative reactions. I believe there is a thread here on that supplement. I'm trying to get myself pumped to try fish oil I'm not sure I can handle supplements. If you decide to try it let me know. Thanks. I actually tried fish oil, before and after Zoloft. It makes me very depressed, I don’t know why. I’m eating fish instead, no problems there How are you doing in general? Zoloft, November 2019. I worked up to 50 mg and stayed there until 1 year later. I tapered for 3 months, which should consider to be cold turkey. Tapering schedule: Month 1: 37.5 mg Month 2: 25 mg Month 3: 12.5 mg Month 4(Half the month): 6.75 mg Month 4(Other half): 0 mg December 9, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneGirlStitch Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, curiousnootropics said: Thanks. I actually tried fish oil, before and after Zoloft. It makes me very depressed, I don’t know why. I’m eating fish instead, no problems there How are you doing in general? My worst symptoms are being overwhelmed and scared by everything (everything), Anhedonia (lack of emotions, interest, or motivation), and a digestive system that doesn't want to work. Right now theses are the main symptoms that keep me bedbound. Of course there is the anxiety and depression which we all get. Then there are the others that I don't have time to worry about. Good to know on the fish oil. I will have to watch out for it. I will do more research and see if depression is a common side effect. Fish is hard for me to eat as I have to eat things in a smoothie form. But I know things can be worse so I cant complain. How about you? How have you been fairing? Current: Bupropion 450mg, Neurontin 800mg, Klonopin 0.5mg History: July 2020: started Cogentin 1mg, Lamictal 50mg, Zoloft 150mg, Zyprexa 5mg (+5mg as needed), Klonopin 0.5mg November 2020: stopped all meds cold-turkey February 2021: started Latuda 60mg, Lithium 300mg, Melatonin 5mg, Protonix 40mg, Topamax 25mg 2 weeks later: stopped Topamax, increased Lithium 900mg, started Klonopin 1mg, Lexapro 20mg, Neurontin 400mg April 2021: started Bupropion 150mg, Revia ?mg May 2021: stopped Revia, Protonix, Lexapro, increased Neurontin 800mg, started Celexa 10mg August 2021: decreased Celexa 5mg (stopped Celexa 2 weeks later), increased Bupropion 300mg September 2021: increased Latuda 80mg October 2021: decreased Lithium 600mg for 4 days, Lithium 300mg for 4 days, stopped Lithium, Latuda, increased Bupropion 450mg, started Remeron 15mg, decreased Remeron 7.5mg, stopped Remeron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curiousnootropics Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 2 hours ago, ThatOneGirlStitch said: My worst symptoms are being overwhelmed and scared by everything (everything), Anhedonia (lack of emotions, interest, or motivation), and a digestive system that doesn't want to work. Right now theses are the main symptoms that keep me bedbound. Of course there is the anxiety and depression which we all get. Then there are the others that I don't have time to worry about. Good to know on the fish oil. I will have to watch out for it. I will do more research and see if depression is a common side effect. Fish is hard for me to eat as I have to eat things in a smoothie form. But I know things can be worse so I cant complain. How about you? How have you been fairing? Some just react badly on it. It does not mean you will. Actually, DL-phenylalanine is working great for mood and anhedonia for me, but it increases anxiety. If I find something that can counter the anxiety effect, then I will try DL-phenylalanine again Zoloft, November 2019. I worked up to 50 mg and stayed there until 1 year later. I tapered for 3 months, which should consider to be cold turkey. Tapering schedule: Month 1: 37.5 mg Month 2: 25 mg Month 3: 12.5 mg Month 4(Half the month): 6.75 mg Month 4(Other half): 0 mg December 9, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneGirlStitch Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 9 hours ago, curiousnootropics said: Some just react badly on it. It does not mean you will. Actually, DL-phenylalanine is working great for mood and anhedonia for me, but it increases anxiety. If I find something that can counter the anxiety effect, then I will try DL-phenylalanine again Something helps anhedonia? wow, I know it probably doesn't work for everyone, but thats cool. Does it lift it some? Do you feel joy? Current: Bupropion 450mg, Neurontin 800mg, Klonopin 0.5mg History: July 2020: started Cogentin 1mg, Lamictal 50mg, Zoloft 150mg, Zyprexa 5mg (+5mg as needed), Klonopin 0.5mg November 2020: stopped all meds cold-turkey February 2021: started Latuda 60mg, Lithium 300mg, Melatonin 5mg, Protonix 40mg, Topamax 25mg 2 weeks later: stopped Topamax, increased Lithium 900mg, started Klonopin 1mg, Lexapro 20mg, Neurontin 400mg April 2021: started Bupropion 150mg, Revia ?mg May 2021: stopped Revia, Protonix, Lexapro, increased Neurontin 800mg, started Celexa 10mg August 2021: decreased Celexa 5mg (stopped Celexa 2 weeks later), increased Bupropion 300mg September 2021: increased Latuda 80mg October 2021: decreased Lithium 600mg for 4 days, Lithium 300mg for 4 days, stopped Lithium, Latuda, increased Bupropion 450mg, started Remeron 15mg, decreased Remeron 7.5mg, stopped Remeron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curiousnootropics Posted January 4, 2022 Author Share Posted January 4, 2022 11 hours ago, ThatOneGirlStitch said: Something helps anhedonia? wow, I know it probably doesn't work for everyone, but thats cool. Does it lift it some? Do you feel joy? Yes, it helps. It is the best supplement I have ever tried. I'm going to start it if I find something against my anxiety. Zoloft, November 2019. I worked up to 50 mg and stayed there until 1 year later. I tapered for 3 months, which should consider to be cold turkey. Tapering schedule: Month 1: 37.5 mg Month 2: 25 mg Month 3: 12.5 mg Month 4(Half the month): 6.75 mg Month 4(Other half): 0 mg December 9, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneGirlStitch Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, curiousnootropics said: Yes, it helps. It is the best supplement I have ever tried. I'm going to start it if I find something against my anxiety. That must have been some anxiety if it was helping. How long did you use it for? Current: Bupropion 450mg, Neurontin 800mg, Klonopin 0.5mg History: July 2020: started Cogentin 1mg, Lamictal 50mg, Zoloft 150mg, Zyprexa 5mg (+5mg as needed), Klonopin 0.5mg November 2020: stopped all meds cold-turkey February 2021: started Latuda 60mg, Lithium 300mg, Melatonin 5mg, Protonix 40mg, Topamax 25mg 2 weeks later: stopped Topamax, increased Lithium 900mg, started Klonopin 1mg, Lexapro 20mg, Neurontin 400mg April 2021: started Bupropion 150mg, Revia ?mg May 2021: stopped Revia, Protonix, Lexapro, increased Neurontin 800mg, started Celexa 10mg August 2021: decreased Celexa 5mg (stopped Celexa 2 weeks later), increased Bupropion 300mg September 2021: increased Latuda 80mg October 2021: decreased Lithium 600mg for 4 days, Lithium 300mg for 4 days, stopped Lithium, Latuda, increased Bupropion 450mg, started Remeron 15mg, decreased Remeron 7.5mg, stopped Remeron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curiousnootropics Posted January 4, 2022 Author Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, ThatOneGirlStitch said: That must have been some anxiety if it was helping. How long did you use it for? I took it for about 1½ week, it starts to work pretty quickly. Zoloft, November 2019. I worked up to 50 mg and stayed there until 1 year later. I tapered for 3 months, which should consider to be cold turkey. Tapering schedule: Month 1: 37.5 mg Month 2: 25 mg Month 3: 12.5 mg Month 4(Half the month): 6.75 mg Month 4(Other half): 0 mg December 9, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneGirlStitch Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Thats great. Be careful though, I've heard of people pooping out on supplements. Current: Bupropion 450mg, Neurontin 800mg, Klonopin 0.5mg History: July 2020: started Cogentin 1mg, Lamictal 50mg, Zoloft 150mg, Zyprexa 5mg (+5mg as needed), Klonopin 0.5mg November 2020: stopped all meds cold-turkey February 2021: started Latuda 60mg, Lithium 300mg, Melatonin 5mg, Protonix 40mg, Topamax 25mg 2 weeks later: stopped Topamax, increased Lithium 900mg, started Klonopin 1mg, Lexapro 20mg, Neurontin 400mg April 2021: started Bupropion 150mg, Revia ?mg May 2021: stopped Revia, Protonix, Lexapro, increased Neurontin 800mg, started Celexa 10mg August 2021: decreased Celexa 5mg (stopped Celexa 2 weeks later), increased Bupropion 300mg September 2021: increased Latuda 80mg October 2021: decreased Lithium 600mg for 4 days, Lithium 300mg for 4 days, stopped Lithium, Latuda, increased Bupropion 450mg, started Remeron 15mg, decreased Remeron 7.5mg, stopped Remeron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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