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Okay, So I am a new member, but I was just wanting too touch base with somebody that might help? This all started back I'd say three months ago... When I had an accidental caffeeine od, and then I was having a hard time, with calming down at night... but Obviously, that was due too overstimulation of caffeine. And then not too long later I tripped on acid, and had a horrible panic induced trip, thinking i was going too lose myself, and just little anxiety panics, then when I came off of the acid my body felt soooo weird like it was vibrating out of my skin. But i would say two days later my therapist prescribed me paxil, and NEVER DID I EVER HEAR THAT I WAS DEPRESSED, OR A DIAGNOSIS, show up. but i did agree, thinking oh what do i have too lose? so i took it for I would say a month, and it put me too sleep. I was on 20 mg a day, the first week was only 10 mg and I really just slept and sit around the first week. But the more i went on the meds, the more i started having all the horrible side effects, such as loss of libido, confusion, muscle spasms, suicidial ideations, feeling DEPRESSED, and I was smoking pot as well on the medicine. But i missed an appointment while on the paxil too talk too my dr. Which yes it was not the best thing too do, but i was confused, and I was caught up in work. Well then i ran out, and I had already told myself i was going to quit the meds. So i did it cold turkey. I would say the first week was bad, with head zaps, depersonalization, wanting too harm myself, vomiting, nausea, no sleep, and constant anxiety. Also my girlfriend of two years left, which is extremely stressful with our relationship, but I am still a month or two off paxil, still having the depersonalization, weird feelings, annoying sleep, mental problems, irritibailty, confusion, and most importantly a loss of time. And myself. They are saying its depression, but i never felt like this before. I am always on edge. I never want to talk too anybody, all i do is sit here waiting for me too get back too myself. I have beat myself uppp, this whole time. and i decided too stop smoking pot, because they think thats why i wanted too off myself. i have tried vitamins, and they just make it worse. somebody please help.

"Before God, We were all equally wise and equally foolish."-Albert Einstein

Paxil(paroxetine) 20mg prescribed in april 2012

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If you're having problems that you never had before starting and quitting Paxil then I would guess they are w/d related.

 

Probably the best thing to do would be try to stabilize on a low dose and taper off slowly by dropping 10% every 3-6 weeks.

2003-2011: Paroxetine,Citalopram,Effexor; Aug/Sept 2011: Effexor to Mirtazapine; Oct 2011: C/T Mirtazapine back to Effexor; Nov/Dec 2011: Fast Tapered Effexor - w/d hell; Feb 2012: Reinstated Effexor 37.5mg; June 2012: Dropped to 35.6mg; Jan 2016: Propranolol 2.5mg per day for general anxiety; Feb 2016: Finasteride 0.25mg per week to slow hair loss; 18th May - 8th June 2019: Started Vyvanse 7.5mg and increased by 7.5mg weekly to 30mg (lowest “therapeutic” dose for adults).; 21st June 2019 - 12th July: Cross tapered from venlafaxine brand Rodomel to Efexor (1/4 > 1/2 > 3/4 weekly before ditching Rodomel); 13th July 2019: Cut Vyvanse dose to 15mg; 15th July 2019: Akathisia returned after years of being free; 16th July 2019: Went back up to Vyvanse 30mg

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Hello, haley, I moved your topic here as your Intro topic.

 

Those are classic withdrawal symptoms. You are sensitive to reduction in your Paxil dosage. If I were you, I'd immediately get Paxil liquid (any doctor can write a prescription), take 2mg, and see if it helps.

 

If it does, stay on 2mg until withdrawal symptoms entirely clear up, maybe a few weeks, then go off very slowly from there, maybe .1mg for a month.

 

See the FAQ http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/208-frequently-asked-questions-about-tapering/

 

Antidepressants are for people who are very, very depressed for a long time. If you don't have this form of depression, you don't need them. No one should be taking an antidepressant for occasionally feeling down or having a bad trip.

 

In fact, if you have a bad trip on acid, that's a sign you should NEVER take an antidepressant, because it indicates you are among the small number of people who are hypersensitive to increases in serotonin (LSD is a serotonergic, like SSRIs).

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Thanks soo much for the advice. I mean the therpist place i go too say there is no such thing as small doaes, but i will ask the question when i get there, its a wonder how one pill could do soo much. I figured it would clear up by now, but the lack of sleep is being battled with by melotoni.. Im pretty sensitive too all other medicines. but i do thank you, and will continue too look for a dr that would negotiate

"Before God, We were all equally wise and equally foolish."-Albert Einstein

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Believe me, there are small doses. That's why liquid Paxil exists.

 

Any MD can write you a prescription, including your primary care doctor.

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Yeah, i do believe you its just i dont agree totally with them telling me i need too be on meds. i should of never agreed too it cause now i dont know anything. i also havent took the right steps too heal so im just scared

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Yeah, i do believe you its just i dont agree totally with them telling me i need too be on meds. i should of never agreed too it cause now i dont know anything. i also havent took the right steps too heal so im just scared

 

But you do know something.. find a doc post haste to give you a prescription for liquid Paxil. Even if your doc does not believe it will help, maybe she will give it to you just because you think it might..

 

The other thing you can do is to stop beating up on yourself.. you can't undo what has happened, but you can stop dumping on yourself. This will also help you heel.

 

So, you have two things you can do. Seems like a good place to begin?

As always, LISTEN TO YOUR BODY! A proud supporter of the 10% (or slower) rule.

 

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Hi Haley,

 

Welcome to our group. You have come to the most knowledgeable, loving,helpful and supportive forum possible. I'm sorry about your situation and hope you get the help you need soon. It's important to get the liquid ASAP. Be sure to follow advice given you by Alto. I have and am so much better now than when I first got here. Wishing you the best!

 

Love,

 

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Unfortunately doctors do not know about these drugs. They get their education from pharmaceutical companies who have a vested interest in keeping patients on the drugs from which they make their profits. The continuing education that physicians get ... sponsored by pharmaceutical companies ... there is no unbiased information getting to most therapists or physicians.

 

Pharmaceutical companies are not required to perform long term studies on these drugs to understand the long term effects or to determine how to taper off of them without doing damage. In their initial studies they determine a so-called therapeutic dose, but they don't do studies to understand any addictive affect. The recommendations for coming off of these drugs may work for part of the population, but for many of us they are too drastic and result in bad withdrawals. There are no pharmaceutical company-sponsored studies to define safe discontinuation of these drugs.

 

So here we are a community of patients who have learned through our own experience what happens when you discontinue too rapidly and how to minimize the ugly side effects that can occur.

 

I literally just decremented my dose of Effexor by 3 mg ... I had a rough week of feeling flat and not joyful, and feeling incompetent, but I'm feeling more bright and optimistic now, like the future has possibilities ... here is the thing, I thought that I was fine until I got to the end of the week and started feeling better. The psych doc that oversees the therapist I see says that 3 mg cannot have an affect, but fortunately my therapist believes me when I say that it does have an affect.

 

Stand up for yourself and get the liquid Paxil. Try the dosage Alto recommends and let us know how you are doing.

 

Love and light,

Karma

2007 @ 375 mg Effexor - 11/29/2011 - 43.75 mg Effexor (regular) & .625 mg Xanax

200 mg Gabapentin 2/27/21 - 194.5 mg, 5/28/21 - 183 mg, 8/2/21 - 170 mg - 11/28/21 - 150 mg
Xanax taper: 3/11/12 - 0.9375 mg, 3/25/12 - 0.875 mg, 4/6/12 - 0.8125 mg, 4/18/12 - 0.75 mg; 1/16 0.6875 mg; at some point 0.625 mg
Effexor taper: 1/29/12 - 40.625 mg, 4/29/12 - 39.875 mg, 5/11/12 - Switched to liquid Effexor, 5/25/12 - 38 mg, 7/6/12 - 35 mg, 8/17/12 - 32 mg, 9/14/12 - 30 mg, 10/19/12 - 28 mg, 11/9/12 - 26 mg, 11/30/12 - 24 mg, 01/14/13 - 22 mg. 02/25/13 - 20.8 mg, 03/18/13 - 19.2 mg, 4/15/13 - 17.6 mg, 8/10/13 - 16.4 mg, 9/7/13 - 15.2 mg, 10/19/13 - 14 mg, 1/15/14 - 13.2 mg, 3/1/2014 - 12.6 mg, 5/4/14 - 12 mg, 8/1/14 - 11.4 mg, 8/29/14 - 10.8 mg; 10/14/14 - 10.2 mg; 12/15/14 - 10 mg, 1/11/15 - 9.5 mg, 2/8/15 - 9 mg, 3/21/15 - 8.5 mg, 5/1/15 - 8 mg, 6/9/15 - 7.5 mg, 7/8/15 - 7 mg, 8/22/15 - 6.5 mg, 10/4/15 - 6 mg; 1/1/16 - 5.6 mg; 2/6/16 - 5.2 mg; 4/9 - 4.8 mg; 7/7 4.5 mg; 10/7 4.25 mg; 11/4 4.0 mg; 11/25 3.8 mg; 4/24 3.6 mg; 5/27 3.4 mg; 7/8 3.2 mg ... 10/18 2.8 mg; 1/18 2.6 mg; 4/7 2.4 mg; 5/26 2.15mg; 8/18 1.85 mg; 10/7 1.7 mg; 12/1 1.45 mg; 3/2 1.2 mg; 5/4 0.90 mg; 6/1 0.80 mg; 6/22 0.65 mg; 08/03 0.50 mg, 08/10 0.45 mg, 10/05 0.325 mg, 11/23 0.2 mg, 12/14 0.15 mg, 12/21 0.125 mg, 02/28 0.03125 mg, 2/15 0.015625 mg, 2/29/20 0.00 mg - OFF Effexor


I am not a medical professional - this is not medical advice. My suggestions are based on personal experience, reading, observation and anecdotal information posted by other sufferers

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haley, I understand completely.

 

I'm not saying you *need* to be on Paxil. I'm saying take the opportunity to do over the last little bit of your taper so you can get off it safely.

 

Withdrawal symptoms can get worse, and they can last a long, long time. Two weeks of brain zaps is in the red flag area.

 

If you can relieve whatever withdrawal symptoms you have with a very low dose of Paxil, and perhaps take a few more months to taper off, you may be saving your nervous system a world of hurt.

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So if I even went for the liquid, how is that different than the tab? Out of curiousity, I mean I guess I'm just scared. I didn't need it then, but I do need something now. And my brain constantly hurts, stress is just too much. And I haven't been listening. But I think that only 2 mg would alleviate the sleep problem. Im just worried about all the wrongs and I can't even think or talk really without it being negative things about myself. Sound bothers me and I'm solo tired of being alone through it. So idk I'm trying too get help. But I guess it has developed into the worst case I ever imagined. I mean I don't wanna keep saying this. But I feel like I'll feel this way for the rest of my life. Who knows but thanks so much, if they won't allow me too take 2 mg I will take it upon myself.

"Before God, We were all equally wise and equally foolish."-Albert Einstein

Paxil(paroxetine) 20mg prescribed in april 2012

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My family thinks I need god, and I know god is here for me. But this is something god is burdened by. I am soo sorry for the constant negativity. I thank you though

"Before God, We were all equally wise and equally foolish."-Albert Einstein

Paxil(paroxetine) 20mg prescribed in april 2012

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Believe me, you are not suffering the worst withdrawal possible. It can get a lot worse.

 

The liquid enables you to more precisely measure your dosage. It would be hard to measure 2mg from a tablet. The liquid is the easiest way to take very small doses, and to gradually taper.

 

Yes, 2mg may help, or it may take a little more, but you probably won't have to take a full dose. You will not have withdrawal symptoms forever.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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My family thinks I need god, and I know god is here for me. But this is something god is burdened by. I am soo sorry for the constant negativity. I thank you though

 

Haley,

 

It is very natural and EXPECTED to feel negative and angry through this. We all understand that. I'm not a religious person, but i suspect God feels angry about seeing his people hurt.

 

You've found a group of people who understands how you feel. I'm sure your family loves you and is trying, but until one is in this position, it's very difficult to comprehend.

Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc).

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Yeah, I do believe I have been overthinking everything. I really appreciate the support.

"Before God, We were all equally wise and equally foolish."-Albert Einstein

Paxil(paroxetine) 20mg prescribed in april 2012

C'T paxil after 30 days.

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don't beat yourself up over 'overthinking' - i think it is common in w/d - sure is for me anyway. I have been trying to visualise this thinking as an activity of my brain rather than something i am doing ...it seems to help

Started in 2000 - On 150mg most of the time, (but up to 225mg at highest dose for 6 months in the beginning)
Reduced off easily first time - but got depressed (not too much anxiety) 6 months later
Back on effexor for another 9 months.
Reduced off again with no immediate w/d - suddenly got depressed and anxious ++ again 3 or 4 months later.
Back on effexor - this time for 3 years
Reduced off over a month - 6 weeks later terrible anxiety - back on.
Rinse and repeat 4 more times - each time the period before the anxiety comes back got shorter and shorter
Jan - July 2012 75mg down to 37.5mg;, 8/3/12 - 35mg. 8/25/12 - 32mg. 9/11- 28mg, 10/2 - 25mg, 10/29 - 22mg, 11/19 - 19.8mg; 12/11 - 17m,
1/1- 15.5mg; 1/22 -14mg, 2/7 14.9mg, 2/18 - 17.8mg - crashed big time: back to 75mg where i sat for 2 years....

4th  March 2015 - 67.5mg;   31st March - 60mg;  24th April - 53mg; 13th May - 48mg; 26th May - 45mg;  9th June - 41mg; 1 July- 37.5mg; 20 July - 34mg; 11 August - 31mg; 1st Sept - 28mg;  1st Dec - 25.8mg;  28th Dec - 23.2mg; 23rd Jan-21.9mg; Feb 7th- 21mg; March 1st - 20.1mg, March 30th - 18mg

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You are supported Haley. Many of us have found that when we tapered too fast or by too much that reinstating a small dose helped to eliminate the withdrawal symptoms and then when we can think more clearly we have been able to come up with a plan.

 

Love and light

Karma

2007 @ 375 mg Effexor - 11/29/2011 - 43.75 mg Effexor (regular) & .625 mg Xanax

200 mg Gabapentin 2/27/21 - 194.5 mg, 5/28/21 - 183 mg, 8/2/21 - 170 mg - 11/28/21 - 150 mg
Xanax taper: 3/11/12 - 0.9375 mg, 3/25/12 - 0.875 mg, 4/6/12 - 0.8125 mg, 4/18/12 - 0.75 mg; 1/16 0.6875 mg; at some point 0.625 mg
Effexor taper: 1/29/12 - 40.625 mg, 4/29/12 - 39.875 mg, 5/11/12 - Switched to liquid Effexor, 5/25/12 - 38 mg, 7/6/12 - 35 mg, 8/17/12 - 32 mg, 9/14/12 - 30 mg, 10/19/12 - 28 mg, 11/9/12 - 26 mg, 11/30/12 - 24 mg, 01/14/13 - 22 mg. 02/25/13 - 20.8 mg, 03/18/13 - 19.2 mg, 4/15/13 - 17.6 mg, 8/10/13 - 16.4 mg, 9/7/13 - 15.2 mg, 10/19/13 - 14 mg, 1/15/14 - 13.2 mg, 3/1/2014 - 12.6 mg, 5/4/14 - 12 mg, 8/1/14 - 11.4 mg, 8/29/14 - 10.8 mg; 10/14/14 - 10.2 mg; 12/15/14 - 10 mg, 1/11/15 - 9.5 mg, 2/8/15 - 9 mg, 3/21/15 - 8.5 mg, 5/1/15 - 8 mg, 6/9/15 - 7.5 mg, 7/8/15 - 7 mg, 8/22/15 - 6.5 mg, 10/4/15 - 6 mg; 1/1/16 - 5.6 mg; 2/6/16 - 5.2 mg; 4/9 - 4.8 mg; 7/7 4.5 mg; 10/7 4.25 mg; 11/4 4.0 mg; 11/25 3.8 mg; 4/24 3.6 mg; 5/27 3.4 mg; 7/8 3.2 mg ... 10/18 2.8 mg; 1/18 2.6 mg; 4/7 2.4 mg; 5/26 2.15mg; 8/18 1.85 mg; 10/7 1.7 mg; 12/1 1.45 mg; 3/2 1.2 mg; 5/4 0.90 mg; 6/1 0.80 mg; 6/22 0.65 mg; 08/03 0.50 mg, 08/10 0.45 mg, 10/05 0.325 mg, 11/23 0.2 mg, 12/14 0.15 mg, 12/21 0.125 mg, 02/28 0.03125 mg, 2/15 0.015625 mg, 2/29/20 0.00 mg - OFF Effexor


I am not a medical professional - this is not medical advice. My suggestions are based on personal experience, reading, observation and anecdotal information posted by other sufferers

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You all are soo calm, which really brings hope. I tried st johns wort and it just made me irritable. Used magnesium which took the tension out of my neck and shoulders. But I felt anxious on a b12 shot and never have I felt like my skin and face were burning off. But I will try too look for a form of Paxil liquid and try too calm down while on it. I don't want too try Xanax or Valium scared of addiction, but I am definitely glad everybody understands.

 

The world around me is too much too comprehend. I can't wait for this too go away.

"Before God, We were all equally wise and equally foolish."-Albert Einstein

Paxil(paroxetine) 20mg prescribed in april 2012

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You all are soo calm, which really brings hope. I tried st johns wort and it just made me irritable. Used magnesium which took the tension out of my neck and shoulders. But I felt anxious on a b12 shot and never have I felt like my skin and face were burning off. But I will try too look for a form of Paxil liquid and try too calm down while on it. I don't want too try Xanax or Valium scared of addiction, but I am definitely glad everybody understands.

 

The world around me is too much too comprehend. I can't wait for this too go away.

 

Oh,

I freak out regularly, usually in the morning due to cortisol spikes.

 

Reassuring other people that what they are going thru is "normal" is self-soothing. So, if you sense calm, it's all part of that process of helping others thru this crazy journey. And it is a process - a few steps forward, few back. I found this group after I tapered too quickly and now I have protracted withdrawal. You'll do fine since you've found the wisdom and experience on this group. There are many scientists and a few therapists here. The collective knowledge is astounding.

 

Very wise to stay away from Xanax, Valium, Klonopin (benzodiazepines). Highly addictive and brutal to discontinue. Many here were put on them years ago to counter the side effects of SS/NRIs. Now were dependent and trying to taper off. It's a vicious cycle.

 

There are several natural remedies for anxiety. Whatever you are feeling, odd moods/sensations/ear ringing, make a note in your thread. It has very likely been discussed. You can also use the search feature to find previous discussions. Your reactions to St. Johns Wort, B12, and magnesium are classic. The first 2 are generally activating and magnesium has great utility for pain, muscles, tension, constipation, to name just a few.

 

 

You'll do fine. And it's ok to talk thru your anger, fears, etc. These drugs tend to suppress emotions so you may experience "outbursts" of emotion. I think it's important to know that up front because it can be disconcerting. I had anger outbursts in early withdrawal that scared me. I was always a very reserved, in control person. I kept my wits about me and didn't tell my doctor. Many docs would see that as "bipolar" and throw more drugs at it.

You may not experience that, but good to be aware of, in my opinion.

Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc).

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yes, i do have a therapy appointment today as we speak, and i am already figuring what they will say. I am majorly depressed, with GAD. but i don't think i had this stuff before put on the meds. But i am also wandering, I don't think it does. But does smoking cigs back to back, change anything? I mean been smoking since i was 13, but i have recently smoked prolly two packs a day. even if i have a horrible lump in my throat and a bad taste in my mouth.

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the mornings are horrific but at least i sleep, it's just an unusual, stiff sleep.

 

Taking 20 mg of melatonin too relax.

"Before God, We were all equally wise and equally foolish."-Albert Einstein

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haley, that sounds like too much of a good thing. People use melatonin to sleep; .33mg can be effective. Our bodies naturally make it when it gets dark at night.

 

If you're taking 20mg of melatonin during the day, you may be confusing your sleep cycle. That amount of melatonin can also cause a paradoxical reaction -- it can be stimulating rather than relaxing.

 

Please take melatonin only at night when you're preparing to go to bed, and see if .33mg will do it. If not, increase gradually to maybe 2mg or 3mg.

 

Try dissolving some magnesium citrate in cold water and sipping it to relax. Maybe put in some lemon or lime, too, for the taste.

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Haley,

 

The most important point is that you felt better BEFORE the drugs. Many of us never improve and only experience side effects like anxiety, agitation, lack of emotion, and worsened mood. As Alto mentioned, it is only the severely depressed who might benefit from these drugs. It does not sound like you fit that description (OR generalized anxiety disorder) BEFORE the drugs.

 

Try to remember that one point when meeting with your therapist. If s/he does not listen to you and respect and support your wish to get off of the drug, they are not the right therapist for you. A good therapist should help you TALK THROUGH whatever is difficult in your life. It might help to ask him/her to help in that way - talking.

 

Your physician can prescribe the liquid that will allow you to taper more slowly. Many physicians are not aware that liquid formulations exist.

 

Stick to those points for now. Smoking is a discussion for some other day. :)

Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc).

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I am taking the melatonin at 10 every night, too get too bed. But what if i am one of the few that will never improve? I have a horrible mood, and i don't know who i am. like i feel like six different people. i cannot stop thinking about this.

 

i talked too her today and she just told me too take small steps, too heal if i'm not going too take the medicine. But i don't want too socialize with people about life in general.

 

Emotional wreck. I am soooo scared.

Yeah, I know. I need relief of this. I want too feel like myself. Where i could concentrate without meds.

 

please go away soon.

"Before God, We were all equally wise and equally foolish."-Albert Einstein

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I am going too call and see about another place here in the next day or two....

They don't have Paxil liquid.

Plus my uncle and everybody thinks i need too be on 20mg,

It is my life. I hate this.

"Before God, We were all equally wise and equally foolish."-Albert Einstein

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Haley,

 

Certain people come on this group and describe the withdrawal symptoms ive experienced very accurately. You are doing that- feeling like different people, especially. I've had DEPERSONALIZATION and DEREALIZATION throughout and it feels "crazy", for lack of a better word. It's difficult to describe and can easily fool one into thinking they really do need these drugs. The physical symptoms that people describe sound awful: nausea, zaps, tinnitus, etc. I'm thankful to have not had those, but I still struggle with DP/DR. (I tapered far too quickly) Just wanted to say that I empathize with you about these bizarre perceptual disturbances.

 

Are you taking 10mg of melatonin or taking melatonin at 10pm? I've never seen melatonin dosed that high! It is typically 3mg. Please keep in mind that your nervous system is very sensitive and will OVERREACT to supplements and drugs. You may be experiencing a hangover from a megadose of melatonin. That would effect your ability to think and concentrate. Can you break the tablet in half or quarters?

 

Hang in there!

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I'm taking as much as sometimes 20mg of melatonin at night, around 10pm, and this isn't going away at all.

 

I feel horrible right now. like i want too puke. cause my rib cage and bowels are all fucked up. HELPPPPP

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sCREAMING INSIDE TOO GO AWAY! im freaking myself out about all this, my mom doesn't have a clue which i assume nobody that has been through it knows. This is worse than a flu, I know i need too calm down, but i just can't this is truly discombombulating, i am having horrible head feeling right now. what if i have prolonged syndrome? god, i can't function. sorry too be a maniac.

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how long ago did you get off of what you were on? I don't want this too persist forever.

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I'm taking as much as sometimes 20mg of melatonin at night, around 10pm, and this isn't going away at all.

 

I feel horrible right now. like i want too puke. cause my rib cage and bowels are all fucked up. HELPPPPP

 

Just popped in here for a moment and would need to refresh myself on the details of your case, but although i've never used melatonin, I've read that too much (even a few mgs. or so can be too much) can be as bad as too little. As with many things, more is NOT always better!

 

Alto has used melatonin and could advise you better whether to try jumping to a very low dose of melatonin and see how you do on that, or whether to adjust your dose in stages.

 

But know that some tweaking, done wisely and knowledgeably, may make a big difference in how you feel as you recover. I know my father told me had taken melatonin and had a horrible reaction to it so never took it again. He was always hyperreactive to meds, I remember from childhood. But when I was cleaning out his things after he died, I found the bottle of melatonin, and was surprised that they were 5 mg. tabs. I think I've read in this and other forums that 5 mg. is much too high a dose for most people.

 

So hang in there. There may be many ways where you can benefit from other people's experiences to make things better!

I was "TryingToGetWell" (aka TTGW) on paxilprogress. I also was one of the original members here on Surviving Antidepressants

 

I had horrific and protracted withdrawal from paxil, but now am back to enjoying life with enthusiasm to the max, some residual physical symptoms continued but largely improve. The horror, severe derealization, anhedonia, akathisia, and so much more, are long over.

 

My signature is a temporary scribble from year 2013. I'll rewrite it when I can.

 

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I am going too call and see about another place here in the next day or two....

They don't have Paxil liquid.

Plus my uncle and everybody thinks i need too be on 20mg,

It is my life. I hate this.

 

Sorry for not reading all posts (or in order). I'll do that later. But just saw this one.

 

Most pharmacies don't have paxil in liquid form in stock at a given time, but can readily order it and get it from their distributor within a day or two in most cases. It's called an "oral suspension." Call around and see who might get this for you.

 

P.S. I've found that generally small independent pharmacies are more flexible on placing orders for specific forms of medication, if you run into problems getting it from a big chain store. Technically any of them can get it, it's just the bureaucracy one can run into when chain stores are rigid in buying stock in large quantities for all stores.

 

As for what your family thinks - I'll read your posts more later. But yes, it is your life. And even doctors don't really understand these meds well enough, much less family! 2 mg. would be a good place to start and then see if you might need more. But you also might not.

 

Luckily with the liquid form, if you need to make changes over time (Alto can advise you about that; don't do it on your own), you won't need to get a separate prescription. You'll have what you need.

 

But be sure to get the tiny syringe that measures the very small dosages accurately.

I was "TryingToGetWell" (aka TTGW) on paxilprogress. I also was one of the original members here on Surviving Antidepressants

 

I had horrific and protracted withdrawal from paxil, but now am back to enjoying life with enthusiasm to the max, some residual physical symptoms continued but largely improve. The horror, severe derealization, anhedonia, akathisia, and so much more, are long over.

 

My signature is a temporary scribble from year 2013. I'll rewrite it when I can.

 

If you want to read it, click on http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/209-brandy-anyone/?p=110343

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The big drug store chains like Walgreen's can order Paxil liquid and have it in the store in a day.

 

haley, Paxil withdrawal can you make you feel very tense, very hopeless, and very worried. Please try to stay calm while you solve this problem of getting the liquid.

 

Ask for a 10mL (milliliter) oral syringe and a 1mL oral syringe.

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I am without melatonin tonight, I am dropping my dose down.

I know others experiences make me feel hopeful.

I overdo things too much, I just cant take this feeling cut off from myself.

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Okay, I am looking too get somewhere tommorow, with this. If I ask for that, it wouldnt cause like a serotonin syndrome?

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I am no dr, just scared.

"Before God, We were all equally wise and equally foolish."-Albert Einstein

Paxil(paroxetine) 20mg prescribed in april 2012

C'T paxil after 30 days.

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You're still there, Haley. The drugs and withdrawal make it feel like you're not, but you are. Try to trust in that for right now.

 

{{{HUGS}}}

Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc).

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