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Thank you so much for your answer. 

I showed my parents the movie.. and tried to explain them what is going on. 

 

They understand now! That's the postive thing. 

 

The negative thing is, that I have no idea how I should go through this anymore. It's so terrible.  

I am laying on the ground, screaming because the emotional pain is so incredible hardcore. I have no idea how to handle this anymore. 

The sadness is so extreme I can't even talk. 

And my symptoms come and go and change every view minutes. My muscles get stiff -> my mood get's better. Than my muscles are getting normal-> I get terrible Neuro-emotions ->I get fatigue -> my mood get's better->Fatigue goes away -> I am crying again. 

 

And between those changes are mostly like 10-30 minutes. 

The physical symptoms aren't that worse.. but the mental ones I have at least once a hour are killing me every 30-60 minutes. 

I have pain, than crying, than mental agitation, than anger... it doesn't stops. 

 

Did you somebody think's that reinstatement could work? I can't go anymore. 

I can't live like this for 2-3 years. 

It's not possible. I am dead after one crying spell. But I have like 20-30 a day 😭😭 

 

I am so hoples, I can't even eat anymore! 

 

And then out of nowhere I am completely normal for 60 minutes. And boom 60 minutes later I am laying on the ground crying.. 

 

23.11.2020 - 06.07.2021 Duloxetin

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The only thing I think, I can do.. is go through the next 3 month. To the one year mark. And look if it's better. 

I know 3 month is nothing.. but probably it's a small bit better. 

 

It's so hard to believe, how I should go through this for many years. 

Like how people are able to through this hell for 5 years?! 

 

I am 21 now. I hope that I will be over WD before I am 25!

 

23.11.2020 - 06.07.2021 Duloxetin

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I really recommend joining “Cymbalta hurts worse” on Facebook. That must be one of the best antidepressant tapering/withdrawal support groups I’ve seen. In most cases, people don’t seem like they need five years to get better - of course, this does happen, but the fact you already have windows is a really good sign. You have youth on your side too. Hang in there! I’ve talked to some people who CTd off Duloxetine actually, and it was HELL but they both improved a lot after the first year. I can’t promise the same will happen because it’s so different for everyone, but don’t expect the worst. 

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@jonah2001 Don't worry, I imagine you will turn the corner sooner than later, and then it will be easier to handle all this. Also remember that since you have those on and off windows (60 minutes normal, then 60 minutes of intensity) your brain is indeed repairing itself, that's why it is going back and forth like that. I answered your PM so please find more writing there. You will get through this and see the other side ❤️

 

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10 month update: 

I'm still in absolute hell. The neuro-emotions are absolutely terrible, still. 

Since month 7-10 I saw no improvement.

The only symptom that go a tiny bit better is the fatigue and the muscle cramps. 

But the neuro-emotions aren't improving yet. It's the same every 60 minutes cycle.

Those neuro-emotions i have every day: extrem neuro pain(it's absolutely brutal) 

                                                                     anger

                                                                     neuro akathsie

                                                                     .... and many more i didn't even have a word fore

But 1 time every two weeks i get windows where i feel okay for a view hours(1-3 hours) 

 

But all the improvement i had, until February, is gone.

I am now suffering those brutal mental symptoms since 7 month and it's getting worse and worse. 

I hope i will get to a point where i'm not just surviving in the next 12-24 month. 

 

Since month 7 everything changed to a point, where it's just surviving. 

In the last 10 weeks i had exactly 3 hours, where i thought i could survive this. Pain,anger,pain, crying-spell.. without brake, since 10 weeks. My favorite part is sleeping. And when i feel calm after a rage episode, 5 minutes later the next one comes.

But my sleep is also very bad. So i didn't even get the sleeping brakes.  

 

Improvement over the last 10 weeks: 0%

 

 

Hell is not even the right word for this. I sometimes forget to eat, because i'm suffering so extremely bad.

I lost 12 kg in 10 weeks.

 

i'm completly hopeless.

 

The only thing that keeps me alive, is @Armorall, who had similar symptoms. 

 

But all in all it's a living nightmare, i don't want to stand up in the mornings, because i know i will suffer the whole day. 

 

 

It's just not getting better. 

23.11.2020 - 06.07.2021 Duloxetin

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* that was a strong Neuro-emotion. I am seeing improvement! 

My muscle stiffness improved a lot(I can sometimes ride my bicycle. The fatigue is better. And I have more and more times where I can see sharp. 

 

But the most important thing would be, that my mental symptoms improve. 

 

I hate that: feeling good one day and terrible the next day. 

 

Today I was feeling better. But I have still so many strange symptoms. 

 

But I am sure that I will be better/good at the end of this year!

 

It's sometimes very hard, to live with a brain wich is telling very strange things. And I believe my own brain, the problem..

23.11.2020 - 06.07.2021 Duloxetin

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I have a new symptom. I have muscle cramps in my tongue. It's hard to talk now. 

One new symptom after the other. 

 

Will there be a point where I don't get new symptoms?

23.11.2020 - 06.07.2021 Duloxetin

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I lose trust in healing process more and more. 

I am getting not better. Is it normal to get symptoms back, that improved over the last 8 week's? 

 

I was doing so much better with my muscles, and now they are so stiff, I can't even walk anymore. 

 

Will this nightmare ever stop? I am losing hope. 

I was dying every day, but at least I could say to my self: Look, your muscle cramps got so much better. And now they are at square one again. Is this normal in WD? 

Also other symptoms that got better are back right now. And I really thought they improved. 

And I am 10 month out now. There must be improvement?! 

23.11.2020 - 06.07.2021 Duloxetin

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@jonah2001

 

It is normal for symptoms to reappear, even after weeks or months without them. I’m 7 months out after a severe adverse reaction to 3 pills and still have bad waves and symptoms reoccurring.

Immediate adverse reaction 

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I hope so.

23.11.2020 - 06.07.2021 Duloxetin

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It gets more worse and more worse and more worse. I get 20 different extreme emotions in 15 minutes. It's absolutely terrible. 

 

I don't think I can survive this. 10 month out and it's absolutely terrible. With terrible I mean: I am living from minute to minute every ******* day. 

 

Those symptoms don't settle down. 

I have them now for 12 weeks and I see no progress. 

 

I can't do this anymore. 

23.11.2020 - 06.07.2021 Duloxetin

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I am sorry that you are going through this... I am also suffering from some horrible symptoms, full blown PSSD, anhedonia, pelvic spasms, loss of appetite and so on. It is really a disgrace that at this age we should be dealing with this **** instead of enjoying life... I don't know what an idiot this doctor should be for prescribing you these very dangerous drugs just for pain... I was also into sports, doing morning cardio outside, hitting the gym etc, now I am not able to handle any of this, my nervous system is too damaged... Have you been able to keep up with your studies at least? 

Take care!

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Today is even more terrible. I feel so horrible I can't talk, eat or anything. 

I just want to sleep. Sleep, sleep and sleep. 

 

The problem is, I don't get any sleep. 

 

It's absolutely terrible. 

 

I am going through this since 10 month. But since month 7 it got so incredible terrible, I have no idea how I should survive. Every minute is absolutely hell.

23.11.2020 - 06.07.2021 Duloxetin

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Thank you so much for your answer @ChessieCat. I know, that many people are experiencing the same. I hope that WD has now reached the deepest part. And that it will get better after this. 

I have the feeling, that my brain needed some time, until everything broke lose. I hope that it won't get any harder.

 

But thank you so much for answering!! Thank you! 

23.11.2020 - 06.07.2021 Duloxetin

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Sorry guys, but I can't go anymore. 

This is my last post here.

23.11.2020 - 06.07.2021 Duloxetin

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Yes, I will go to a doctor!

23.11.2020 - 06.07.2021 Duloxetin

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13 hours ago, jonah2001 said:

Yes, I will go to a doctor!

 

I'm sorry you're struggling so much, @jonah2001. I do hope you'll stick around.

-Since 2017-ish I've been on Cymbalta & Mirtazapine. At max dose it was 120mg cymbalta and 45mg mirtazapine. This combo was meant to deal with a depressive episode and it worked. Over the next few years I tapered down from those high doses. I had tried to get off the cymbalta twice and had to reinstate twice. I don't remember when. Maybe 2018? 2019? 

-Since 2020 I've been stable 20mg cymbalta and 7.5mg mirtazapine (this is mainly for sleep now). I have come off of the mirtazapine before without trouble, but still take it occasionally for sleep. 

-August 2nd began taking 10mg prozac as a bridge to attempt to get off cymbalta. Took 10mg for about a week then 20mg for a few days. Stopped taking the cymbalta and was doing okay for a bit, but things didn't seem to get better and maybe have been getting worse. 

-8/25/2021 - 20mg cymbalta and struggling. Stopped the prozac. I'm struggling, but I can probably ride this out if I had to. My concern is that things will continue to get worse, as they seem to be doing. 

-8/29/2021 - things started to get worse. Probably prozac withdrawal. Reinstated 20mg prozac. 

-9/2/2021 - 20mg cymbalta, 5mg prozac, 7.5 mg mirtazapine --> 9/24/2021 - 20mg cymbalta, 5mg prozac, 3.75 mg mirtazapine --> 11/7/2021 - 20mg cymbalta, 3.75mg prozac, 3.75 mg mirtazapine --> 4/24/2022 - 20mg cymbalta, 3.75mg prozac   --> 6/5/2022 - 20mg cymbalta, 3.33mg prozac

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@thenextguy Thank you so much for your answer. Yes, WD IS ABSOLUTLY terrible. Especially the mental symptoms.

23.11.2020 - 06.07.2021 Duloxetin

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10 1/2 month update. 

 

So, I am in absolute hell. 

In January , the mental symptoms really started to improve. And I was more and more my old self. 

But than in the middle of February it started to get terrible. March was absolutely horror.. But than I saw, that it got little bit better and more manageable over time.. 

But now since 3 week's, it's even more terrible. It's so terrible, I think I die. 

I can't really talk, I can't move I can't do anything because of that symptoms. I get 1-3 times a few hours where I don't feel as bad. But most of the time is pure hell.  

 

Has somebody experienced similar, that it got so terrible at 10 month out?! It's brutal..

 

 

23.11.2020 - 06.07.2021 Duloxetin

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@Fairsome 

Sorry, that I am answering now. I am feeling so bad that it's sometimes hard to answer. 

How are you doing? 

It's so terrible, isn't it? 

I was playing tennis on a high level, now this seems like a dream to me. 

 

No, I can't study. I am barley surviving each and every day. It's horrible. 

 

But in the end we will recover. No idea when, no idea how I should get there.. but I am sure I will. 

 

Same for you. I miss the Sport. 

23.11.2020 - 06.07.2021 Duloxetin

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@Altostrata 

In january and february it wasn't that terrible, like it is now. I felt terrible from October - december. But thing's slowly improved. And than in the middle of February it got absolutely terrible. 

 

That's what's frustrates me so incredible..

23.11.2020 - 06.07.2021 Duloxetin

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On 5/15/2022 at 7:36 PM, jonah2001 said:

@Fairsome 

Sorry, that I am answering now. I am feeling so bad that it's sometimes hard to answer. 

How are you doing? 

It's so terrible, isn't it? 

I was playing tennis on a high level, now this seems like a dream to me. 

 

No, I can't study. I am barley surviving each and every day. It's horrible. 

 

But in the end we will recover. No idea when, no idea how I should get there.. but I am sure I will. 

 

Same for you. I miss the Sport. 

Hi, I'm still not doing any good... Yes, it's not only terrible, it's absolutely criminal how much damage these drugs could cause. But as you said, we will recover..

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On 5/13/2022 at 3:20 PM, jonah2001 said:

I can't really talk, I can't move I can't do anything because of that symptoms. I get 1-3 times a few hours where I don't feel as bad. But most of the time is pure hell.  

 

What do these symptoms feel like? At what times of day are they better or worse?

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@Altostrata 

It feels like somebody has stolen my soul. I have emotional pain, rage episodes... 

I have sometimes a view hours where it's not that hard. And every view weeks some hours where i feel good. 

23.11.2020 - 06.07.2021 Duloxetin

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@jonah2001 unusual symptoms that come and go is typical of withdrawal syndrome. Would uo say you feel better or worse than you did last September?

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@Altostrata 

I would say, I definitely feel worse than in September. 

23.11.2020 - 06.07.2021 Duloxetin

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How are you, @jonah2001?

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@Fairsome

11 month update: 

 

Things are getting worse and worse. I am losing my hope.

On top off the mental symptoms, symptoms that i thought i was improving are also like i never made progress. 

 

The fatigue is now like this: that the only thing i want to do, is sleep. 

And i have the dizziness back, wich was gone for many month.

Also the cognitive symptoms are back..

A new symptom that i got is blurry vision. I guess it's WD related, because it comes and goes..

I am now like in December, but a little bit worse.

 

 

 

 

23.11.2020 - 06.07.2021 Duloxetin

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Keep going Jonah

Nothing I say or do is based on medical advice. I make my own choices based on intuition gained through individual research, and a lot of suffering.
 

“The good thing about hitting rock bottom is that the only way out is up.”
 

Sertraline (Lustral): 50mg October 2020; 100mg December 2020; 50mg April 2021; 75mg May 2021; 50mg 18 September 2021; big crash 6 December 2021

Current dose: 50mg (August 2022)

Mirtazapine (Generic): 15mg November 2020

Current dose: 15mg (August 2022)

Amitriptyline (Generic): 20mg Dec 2016 for epigastric pain; 10mg Dec 2017; 10mg every third day Sep 2018; 0mg Oct 2018

 

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Hello, @jonah2001 Did anything occur that might have triggered this setback? Drinking alcohol, taking antibiotics, excessive stress or change in sleep schedule might do this.

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@Erimus

 

I was in a wave yesterday. 

But to be honest things are different: 

I am seeing progress. 

I get more and more days where i didn't feel as terrible. 

 

The mental symptoms are improving!

I had the day before yesterday pretty much a whole day without symptoms! 

 

so yes, i'm improving.. i am trying to burn as much time as possible! 

 

But i am pretty sure, that the hardest part is behind me! 

23.11.2020 - 06.07.2021 Duloxetin

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