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Colonial

I had a really rough time changing from the paxil CR pills to the liquid paxil.  It's the whole reason I started my thread here.

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/9562-colonial-worsening-withdrawal-symptoms-changing-from-paxil-cr-to-liquid-suspension/page-1#

 

With the Paxil, the controlled release tablets work different than the liquid.  I also think our bodies become accustomed to absorbing it in a certain form, and it takes time to adjust.  If you're having symptoms  just from the change, I'd wait more than a week before lowering it.  I didn't, and I regretted it.


 Starting ds 2 (12.5 CR'S) = 25 MG PAXIL CR 1/21/15: 1 Pill + 10mg liquid (2 weeks) 2/4: 1 Pill + 9mg Lq (3 weeks) 2/25: 1 Pill + 8 mg lq (1 week) 3/4: 1 Pill + 6 mg lq (2 weeks) 3/18/15 1 Pill + 4 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/1/15 1 Pill + 3 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/14/15 1 Pill + 2 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/29/15 1Pill + 1 mg lq (16 days) 5/15/15 1 12.5 mg Pill ONLY (9 days) 5/24/15 12 mgs liquid (8 days) 6/1/15 11mg lq (12 days) 6/13/15 10 mg.  12/3/15 Drop from 8mg to 7.6 (24 days to) 12/27/15 7.2mgs  8/4/16 6.8mgs,  11/1/16 6.4mgs, 2/5/17 6 mgs  4/3/17 5.6mgs, 4/24/17 5.2mg, 6/13/17 4.8mgs, 9/20/17 4.4mgS, 11/23/17 4 mgs, 1/1/18 3.6 mgs, 2/15/18 3.2 mgs. 4/13/18 2.8mgs, 5/11/18 2.4mgs, 6/10/18 2.0 mgs, 8/4/18 1.6mgs,  9/27/18 1.2mgs, 12/24/18 0.8mg, 3/24/19 0.64 mg, 4/22/19 0.56 mg, 5/24/19 0.48 mg, 7/7/19 0.40 mgs, 8/4/19 0.32mgs, 11/4/19 0.24mgs, 2/1/20 0.16mgs, 3/1/20 0.12mgs

 

Original Wellbutrin Dose: 6 months from 9/14 to 3/2015, 300 XL 3/15/15: Half to 150 XL ( severe symptoms started on day 12) 4/16/15: 125mg   for 20 days to: 5/6/15:   100mg  for  15 days to: 5/21/15    75mg  for  10 days to: 6/1/15:  56.25mg      13 days to: 6/13/15: 37.25mg    7 days to: 6/20/15  28.12mg   14 days to: 7/4/15  18.75mg, 7 days to: 7/11/15; RAISE BACK TO: 28.12 to 8/14/15: 18.75mg  20 days to :9/3/15 : 12.5mg, 8/4/16 9mg 1/9/17: 8.5mg 2/8/17 8mg, 3/9/17: 7.6  4/9/17  7.2  5/27/17 6.4 6/24/17 5.8, 8/1/17 5.0, 8/29/17 4.2mgs, 10/2/17 3.5mgs, 12/28/17 2.5mgs, 2/27/18 1.7mgs,  4/19/18 0.8 mgs, LAST DOSE: 6/11/18:  3 YEARS, 2 MONTHS, 27 DAYS...

 

Daily medications:  Paxil, Percocet,  Synthroid, Xanax, Skelaxin

http://www.drugs.com/interactions-check.php?drug_list=1800-1156,72-8506,1572-951,1463-869,440-203,133-54

 

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Colonial

I don't know if "used" to it is the correct phrase, as I started the taper immediately.  But my symptoms were worse at the beginning from not giving myself the month recommended before the tamper. The change over to the liquid is already a "reduction" in a meaningful sense, which is why your having the symptoms.  It's not staying in your system as evenly as the CR Tablet.  Which is why it's recommended to wait a month from the change before you start tapering.  In a very real sense, you're already in withdrawal.


 Starting ds 2 (12.5 CR'S) = 25 MG PAXIL CR 1/21/15: 1 Pill + 10mg liquid (2 weeks) 2/4: 1 Pill + 9mg Lq (3 weeks) 2/25: 1 Pill + 8 mg lq (1 week) 3/4: 1 Pill + 6 mg lq (2 weeks) 3/18/15 1 Pill + 4 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/1/15 1 Pill + 3 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/14/15 1 Pill + 2 mg lq (2 weeks) 4/29/15 1Pill + 1 mg lq (16 days) 5/15/15 1 12.5 mg Pill ONLY (9 days) 5/24/15 12 mgs liquid (8 days) 6/1/15 11mg lq (12 days) 6/13/15 10 mg.  12/3/15 Drop from 8mg to 7.6 (24 days to) 12/27/15 7.2mgs  8/4/16 6.8mgs,  11/1/16 6.4mgs, 2/5/17 6 mgs  4/3/17 5.6mgs, 4/24/17 5.2mg, 6/13/17 4.8mgs, 9/20/17 4.4mgS, 11/23/17 4 mgs, 1/1/18 3.6 mgs, 2/15/18 3.2 mgs. 4/13/18 2.8mgs, 5/11/18 2.4mgs, 6/10/18 2.0 mgs, 8/4/18 1.6mgs,  9/27/18 1.2mgs, 12/24/18 0.8mg, 3/24/19 0.64 mg, 4/22/19 0.56 mg, 5/24/19 0.48 mg, 7/7/19 0.40 mgs, 8/4/19 0.32mgs, 11/4/19 0.24mgs, 2/1/20 0.16mgs, 3/1/20 0.12mgs

 

Original Wellbutrin Dose: 6 months from 9/14 to 3/2015, 300 XL 3/15/15: Half to 150 XL ( severe symptoms started on day 12) 4/16/15: 125mg   for 20 days to: 5/6/15:   100mg  for  15 days to: 5/21/15    75mg  for  10 days to: 6/1/15:  56.25mg      13 days to: 6/13/15: 37.25mg    7 days to: 6/20/15  28.12mg   14 days to: 7/4/15  18.75mg, 7 days to: 7/11/15; RAISE BACK TO: 28.12 to 8/14/15: 18.75mg  20 days to :9/3/15 : 12.5mg, 8/4/16 9mg 1/9/17: 8.5mg 2/8/17 8mg, 3/9/17: 7.6  4/9/17  7.2  5/27/17 6.4 6/24/17 5.8, 8/1/17 5.0, 8/29/17 4.2mgs, 10/2/17 3.5mgs, 12/28/17 2.5mgs, 2/27/18 1.7mgs,  4/19/18 0.8 mgs, LAST DOSE: 6/11/18:  3 YEARS, 2 MONTHS, 27 DAYS...

 

Daily medications:  Paxil, Percocet,  Synthroid, Xanax, Skelaxin

http://www.drugs.com/interactions-check.php?drug_list=1800-1156,72-8506,1572-951,1463-869,440-203,133-54

 

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Lakelander82

Any of you find the drug residue on the sides of the glass jar a problem? I add a small subset of liquid from my syringe to my Sertraline 50 mg tabs (halved for quicker dissolution). I then swirl the glass jar and add the rest of the liquid rinsing the side of the jar, trouble is I have to swirl the jar again to ensure even distribution of the drug but as a consequence the residue occurs again on the sides of the jar. How much of a problem is this in terms of reduced dosage of the drug going into the syringe?


May 2007 - October 2007 Citalopram 20 mg od. 1st Antidepressant ever taken. No problem with fast taper and no withdrawal effects. No antidepressants for over 5 years.

 

January 2013 started Citalopram 20mg.

March 2014 Switched to Sertraline 50 mg od.

23rd June 2016 started taper 45mg

23.07.16 40.5mg 23.08.16 36.45mg 27.09.16 34.65mg 24.10.16 32.90mg 28.11.16 31.26mg 04.01.17 32mg 25.02.17 31mg 22.03.17 30mg 14.04.17 29mg 09.05.17 28mg 07.06.17 27mg 08.06.17 26mg 13.07.17 25mg 07.08.17 24mg 24.08.17 23mg 13.09.17 22mg 12.10.17 21mg 10.11.17 20mg 04.12.17 19mg 01.01.18 17mg 25.01.18 15mg 22.02.18 13.5mg 25.03.18 12.15mg 

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Altostrata

A lot of those bits are filler and coating of the tablet. If you keep to the same method (same equipment, same steps, same order) each time, whatever loss there is due to this residue will be consistent -- don't worry about it.


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Altostrata

Refrigeration delays the growth of bacteria and mold in your homemade liquid, which was not made under sterile conditions.


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Happy2Heal

I have a question about making a suspension with my Seroquel tablets. I expect it it the same sort of problem with most tablets.

 

I did a practice with letting the tablet disintegrate (not dissolve, neither the binders, fillers, nor the Seroquel itself will dissolve). The tablet disintegrates in water pretty quickly but the itty bitty specks always have a few larger specks in there with them. I suspect this might be from the coating on the tablet not wanting to totally let go, but I'm not sure. It's just a very thin coating. Is this a concern? I have tried crushing with mortar and pestle or back of spoon and find this so difficult (doing it in water and rinsing everything into the jar) and my mental state so poor that I can't deal with it. So I want to know if I can just ignore the fact that the itty bitty specks are not exactly the same size.

 

there's a suspending liquid called Ora Plus  ;amazon.com sells it

https://www.amazon.com/PADDOCK-LABORATORIES-Ora-Plus-Suspending-Vehicle/dp/B000GGHSQM


  • pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total)
  •  Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictalBrief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years
  • started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. I tried to get off it several times. WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 
  •  2013 tapered down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs
  •  June of 2105, tapered again, too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". Crashed in Sept, reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106
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Cabinhope

Just read this whole thread to see if there is a post about the transition you speak of above, Alto. Why is it that there IS a transition....if the dose remains the same. I've been transitioning over to liquid Trazodone and honestly it feels like I'm on a totally different drug...different planet. It's profound, very spacey and out of it. Would love to understand what's going on. It doesn't seem like there would be such a big shift from letting a tablet dissolve in the stomach to dissolving the tablet first before it hits the stomach. Does everyone have this? Is it this way with each drug?


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2012 Gynecologist screwed me up massively by suggesting a quick and easy switch to Lexapro from Paxil.  Eviscerated CNS.  Ended up on...

Paxil 40,  Mirtazapine 15, Lithium 450, Trazodone 50, Pristiq 100, Klonopin .25, Lamictal 125

August 2014 Pax 20,  Mirt 7.5, lith 450, traz 50, Pristiq 100, Klon .25, Lamic 125

April 2016–May 2019

Verrrrry slow, slow tapering of different ones here and there.  Currently sitting on:

Paxil 20, Lithium 225, Pristiq 100, Klonopin .25, Lamictal 50

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scallywag

Think about it this way, which is going to be digested faster: a hunk of salt or the same quantity of salt dissolved in water?

The liquid is absorbed faster by your body. And if you are taking no other medications, you may metabolizing lower doses more quickly than previous higher doses. If you are taking other medications, you still may be metabolizing more quickly; it depends on whether the other meds use the same metabolic enzymes and pathways.


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Cymbalta 60 mg 2012 - 2015; 2016: 20 mg to 7 mg exact doses and dates in this post; 2017: 6.3 mg to  0.0 mg  Aug. 12; details here


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Elexis

Hi,

 

Apologies if I've posted this in the wrong place, I'd  posted in my intro thread but don't think anyone had seen it.

Just got a quick question about making liquid solutions:

 

I'm currently tapering off Betahistine. I crush an 8mg Betahistine tablet and add 16ml of water. Is it okay to crush two 8mg tablets in 32mls of water and keep them in the same jar?

 

I ask because I tried doing a 'bulk' lot of betahistine solution last night - six tablets in the equivalent amount of water. There's always plenty of powder visible swirling around regardless of how many tablets I use at a time and then it all collects at the bottom of the jar.... could loads of powder collecting at the bottom make it very difficult for any of it to dissolve?

 

Thanks guys

 


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Altostrata

Elexis, you can make a liquid from multiple tablets as you've described. I would keep notes about the recipe, just to make sure you maintain consistency.

 

Be careful about storing homemade liquids. It's best not to keep any amount past a week. Like any edible, they can grow mold or bacteria and go bad.


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Elexis

Thanks Altostrata :) I take around 3 tablets a day so it'll make life so much easier being able to do it in bulk.

Will keep the 7 day limit in mind and make sure to wash the jars out.


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Lyrica - 200mg since 2014

Prozac - 25mg/day 9 months in 2015. 1mg day since 2016.

Promethazine - 25mg, since 17 April 2020

Herbal nytol - since 2018

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5htp - 50mg April 4th-21st. reinstated at 25mg May 27th. Off at 5mg 19th August. Reinstate 2.5mg 26th Aug.

 

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Elexis

Hi,

 

I used to dissolve my tablets in water after crushing them but I've recently tried just dissolving them as they are. It seems to work fine, they're very water soluble it appears.

I'm unsure as to the best way to do a bulk solution - would it be better to measure out the water, chuck all 4 tablets in at once and just leave them to dissolve or would it be best to dissolve one tablet at a time?

 

Thanks!


Amitriptyline - 60mg, since 2011

Lyrica - 200mg since 2014

Prozac - 25mg/day 9 months in 2015. 1mg day since 2016.

Promethazine - 25mg, since 17 April 2020

Herbal nytol - since 2018

Alverine Citrate - 120mg twice a day since 2012

5htp - 50mg April 4th-21st. reinstated at 25mg May 27th. Off at 5mg 19th August. Reinstate 2.5mg 26th Aug.

 

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Altostrata

In your case, I might put all 3 tablets in at once and let them sit for 10 minutes or so. They should all dissolve, with some gentle shaking.

 

It's usually not a good idea to make a bulk solution, you'd want to keep it at most a week or 10 days, in the fridge.


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Elexis

Thanks Alto! :)

 

I'll make sure to only keep it a week, I'm still on really high doses of that particular medication so I expect it will only last me a few days.

 

Is it okay to leave it sitting at room temperature while the tablets dissolve?


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Lyrica - 200mg since 2014

Prozac - 25mg/day 9 months in 2015. 1mg day since 2016.

Promethazine - 25mg, since 17 April 2020

Herbal nytol - since 2018

Alverine Citrate - 120mg twice a day since 2012

5htp - 50mg April 4th-21st. reinstated at 25mg May 27th. Off at 5mg 19th August. Reinstate 2.5mg 26th Aug.

 

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scallywag

Room temperature will allow the tablets to dissolve more quickly. Refrigerate after and shake before withdrawing your dose.


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Cymbalta 60 mg 2012 - 2015; 2016: 20 mg to 7 mg exact doses and dates in this post; 2017: 6.3 mg to  0.0 mg  Aug. 12; details here


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Elexis

Thanks guys!


Amitriptyline - 60mg, since 2011

Lyrica - 200mg since 2014

Prozac - 25mg/day 9 months in 2015. 1mg day since 2016.

Promethazine - 25mg, since 17 April 2020

Herbal nytol - since 2018

Alverine Citrate - 120mg twice a day since 2012

5htp - 50mg April 4th-21st. reinstated at 25mg May 27th. Off at 5mg 19th August. Reinstate 2.5mg 26th Aug.

 

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Hibari

Need help in checking my math:. 

I would like to switch over to a liquid/water suspension of my dosage of Lamictal, which is now 17.50mg.   

 

I have both 25mgs tablets and 5mg tablets. 

 

I have a 10ML syringe and from reading the beginning part of this thread, this is my plan. 

Take the 10ML syringe and fill it twice with water and put it into a small container.   This would equal 20ML of water

Then fill the 10ML syringe 1/2 way with water, which would equal 5ML of water

Total amount of water-25ML

 

Next I would dissolve my 25mg tablet in the 25ML of water.

When it's dissolved:

First draw up10ML of liquid and take that

Then draw up 7.50ML of liquid and take that.

 

Does this seem correct?

 

 


Sept 2013-Apr 2014:  After death of my mom put on as series of meds. Zoloft 6 days, Lexapro1 day, Nortriptyline 10 days, Liquid Prozac 1 week, Cymbalta 1 week.

Got off Clonzapam: 1/2014-9/2014. After given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs

Completed Remeron taper: 41.25 -0.025mgs  1/2015-4 2017. 

Completed Lamictal Taper: 200mgs-0.05 mgs 7/ 2015-11/2018. 

Clonazapam  December 2018. 0.625 Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping and not thinking straight. 28 March, 2019  4% taper Total: .625mgai   26 May, 2019  4% taper Total: .575 mgai,   24 June, 2019 2.5 % taper  10 Clonzapam tablets weigh1.999 mgpw  Average  200 mgpw.  0.0073mgai 9AM, 0.0073mgai 3PM, .415mgai, Total: 561mgai,  10 July, 2019 (Compounded pills) .0073mgai 9AM,.0073mgai 3PM, .415mgai,

Total .561mgai   26 August, 2019 (Back to regular pills due to bad reaction) .0078mgai 9AM, .01075mgai 3PM, .360mgai PM, Total: .545mgai   26 Sept. 2019 .0775mgai 9AM, .1mgai 3PM, 0.350mgai PM: Total: .5275mgai   31 Oct, 2019 .0750mgai 9AM, .0925mgai 3PM, 0.340mgai 930PM, Total: .5075mgai,   30 Nov. 2019 .0775mgai 9AM, .0825mgai 3PM, .3325mgai 9:30PM, Total:.490mgai   31 Dec. 2019 .0775mgai 9AM,  .080mgai 3PM, .3225mgai 9:30PM,  Total: .4775mgai   31 Jan. 2020 .0725mgai 9AM, .0750mgai 3pm, .315mgai 9:30PM, Total: .4625mgai    29 Feb. 2020  .0675mgai 9AM, .0675 3PM, .305 mgai 9PM Total: .440mgai 31 March 2020 .065mgai 9AM,  .065mgai 3PM, .2925mgai 10PM, Total: 4225mgai  30 April 2020 .0625mgai 9AM, .0625mgai 3PM, .2775mgai 10PM  Total: .4025mgai 31 May 2020 .0625mgai 9AM, .0625 mgai 3PM, .2526 mgai 10PM, Total: .3775mgai  30 June 2020 .0625mgai 9AM, .0625mgai 3PM  .2175 mgai 10PM Total .3425mgai.   31 July 2020 .0575 mgai 9AM .0550 mgai 3PM .180mgai 10PM Total .2925mgai  31 August 2020 .00475mgai 9AM, 0.0045mgai 3PM, .01475mgai 10PM Total: .2375mgai  30 September 2020 0.0375mgai 9AM 0.035mgai 3PM 0.110mgai 10PM  Total: .1825mgai

 

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artSet3561

Perfect.

 

I personally make up 100ml at a time in a regular kitchen measuring jug. Add two 50mg tabs screw the top on a use for a few days, saves faffing every day. Same difference ?


50mg sertraline daily for past 4 years

December 2016 - 12.5mg daily - Moved to liquid doses

January 2017 - 10mg

March 2017 - 9mg
May 2017 Dropped to 8mg, having some side effects but coping, just waiting for it to even out again.

June 2017 - Dropped to 7.9mg - again, some side effects but coping

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Hibari

Thank you for your confirmation.    With my foggy brain, it has taken me may readings to finally understand what to do. 


Sept 2013-Apr 2014:  After death of my mom put on as series of meds. Zoloft 6 days, Lexapro1 day, Nortriptyline 10 days, Liquid Prozac 1 week, Cymbalta 1 week.

Got off Clonzapam: 1/2014-9/2014. After given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs

Completed Remeron taper: 41.25 -0.025mgs  1/2015-4 2017. 

Completed Lamictal Taper: 200mgs-0.05 mgs 7/ 2015-11/2018. 

Clonazapam  December 2018. 0.625 Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping and not thinking straight. 28 March, 2019  4% taper Total: .625mgai   26 May, 2019  4% taper Total: .575 mgai,   24 June, 2019 2.5 % taper  10 Clonzapam tablets weigh1.999 mgpw  Average  200 mgpw.  0.0073mgai 9AM, 0.0073mgai 3PM, .415mgai, Total: 561mgai,  10 July, 2019 (Compounded pills) .0073mgai 9AM,.0073mgai 3PM, .415mgai,

Total .561mgai   26 August, 2019 (Back to regular pills due to bad reaction) .0078mgai 9AM, .01075mgai 3PM, .360mgai PM, Total: .545mgai   26 Sept. 2019 .0775mgai 9AM, .1mgai 3PM, 0.350mgai PM: Total: .5275mgai   31 Oct, 2019 .0750mgai 9AM, .0925mgai 3PM, 0.340mgai 930PM, Total: .5075mgai,   30 Nov. 2019 .0775mgai 9AM, .0825mgai 3PM, .3325mgai 9:30PM, Total:.490mgai   31 Dec. 2019 .0775mgai 9AM,  .080mgai 3PM, .3225mgai 9:30PM,  Total: .4775mgai   31 Jan. 2020 .0725mgai 9AM, .0750mgai 3pm, .315mgai 9:30PM, Total: .4625mgai    29 Feb. 2020  .0675mgai 9AM, .0675 3PM, .305 mgai 9PM Total: .440mgai 31 March 2020 .065mgai 9AM,  .065mgai 3PM, .2925mgai 10PM, Total: 4225mgai  30 April 2020 .0625mgai 9AM, .0625mgai 3PM, .2775mgai 10PM  Total: .4025mgai 31 May 2020 .0625mgai 9AM, .0625 mgai 3PM, .2526 mgai 10PM, Total: .3775mgai  30 June 2020 .0625mgai 9AM, .0625mgai 3PM  .2175 mgai 10PM Total .3425mgai.   31 July 2020 .0575 mgai 9AM .0550 mgai 3PM .180mgai 10PM Total .2925mgai  31 August 2020 .00475mgai 9AM, 0.0045mgai 3PM, .01475mgai 10PM Total: .2375mgai  30 September 2020 0.0375mgai 9AM 0.035mgai 3PM 0.110mgai 10PM  Total: .1825mgai

 

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Hibari

Is anyone doing a hard tablet and liquid suspension combination?

 

If so, how do like it or find it to be helpful. 

 

I feel like I would like to try that to keep enough of the medication in my system as I taper.   Right now I switched completely to a water suspension for accuracy but think I may need more stability as I go lower.


Sept 2013-Apr 2014:  After death of my mom put on as series of meds. Zoloft 6 days, Lexapro1 day, Nortriptyline 10 days, Liquid Prozac 1 week, Cymbalta 1 week.

Got off Clonzapam: 1/2014-9/2014. After given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs

Completed Remeron taper: 41.25 -0.025mgs  1/2015-4 2017. 

Completed Lamictal Taper: 200mgs-0.05 mgs 7/ 2015-11/2018. 

Clonazapam  December 2018. 0.625 Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping and not thinking straight. 28 March, 2019  4% taper Total: .625mgai   26 May, 2019  4% taper Total: .575 mgai,   24 June, 2019 2.5 % taper  10 Clonzapam tablets weigh1.999 mgpw  Average  200 mgpw.  0.0073mgai 9AM, 0.0073mgai 3PM, .415mgai, Total: 561mgai,  10 July, 2019 (Compounded pills) .0073mgai 9AM,.0073mgai 3PM, .415mgai,

Total .561mgai   26 August, 2019 (Back to regular pills due to bad reaction) .0078mgai 9AM, .01075mgai 3PM, .360mgai PM, Total: .545mgai   26 Sept. 2019 .0775mgai 9AM, .1mgai 3PM, 0.350mgai PM: Total: .5275mgai   31 Oct, 2019 .0750mgai 9AM, .0925mgai 3PM, 0.340mgai 930PM, Total: .5075mgai,   30 Nov. 2019 .0775mgai 9AM, .0825mgai 3PM, .3325mgai 9:30PM, Total:.490mgai   31 Dec. 2019 .0775mgai 9AM,  .080mgai 3PM, .3225mgai 9:30PM,  Total: .4775mgai   31 Jan. 2020 .0725mgai 9AM, .0750mgai 3pm, .315mgai 9:30PM, Total: .4625mgai    29 Feb. 2020  .0675mgai 9AM, .0675 3PM, .305 mgai 9PM Total: .440mgai 31 March 2020 .065mgai 9AM,  .065mgai 3PM, .2925mgai 10PM, Total: 4225mgai  30 April 2020 .0625mgai 9AM, .0625mgai 3PM, .2775mgai 10PM  Total: .4025mgai 31 May 2020 .0625mgai 9AM, .0625 mgai 3PM, .2526 mgai 10PM, Total: .3775mgai  30 June 2020 .0625mgai 9AM, .0625mgai 3PM  .2175 mgai 10PM Total .3425mgai.   31 July 2020 .0575 mgai 9AM .0550 mgai 3PM .180mgai 10PM Total .2925mgai  31 August 2020 .00475mgai 9AM, 0.0045mgai 3PM, .01475mgai 10PM Total: .2375mgai  30 September 2020 0.0375mgai 9AM 0.035mgai 3PM 0.110mgai 10PM  Total: .1825mgai

 

Additional Support:  Armour Thyroid 75mgs,  Vitamin D, Vitamin C, Magnesium Glycinate

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Note regarding the following:  I am not a health care professional.  I am presenting my understanding of a laboratory technique, and I might be entirely wrong.  I am not advocating that you taper or discontinue medication without the care of a doctor.  This is not medical advice.

 

The practice of diluting medication might be useful knowledge for some on this site.  The method to which I'm referring is known as "serial dilution".  The goal of this method is to start with a known volume of a solution (in mililiters) containing a known mass (in miligrams) of medication.  Knowing this, and then knowing the concentration of your target solution will allow you to figure out how much water (or ethyl alcohol, as the case may be) must be added to the original solution to produce a target solution of a desired concentration.

 

The value of this approach is as an alternative to measuring small quantities of powdered or beaded medications.

If you are interested in how to do the calculations, you can search online.  Doctors are trained in this technique, so it's easiest just to ask your doctor to do the calculations for you.

 

Let's say we have the liquid form of a medication that contains a known amount (in mg) of the actual medication.  You can use a "graduated cylinder", which might have a capacity of 5 ml, 50 ml, 100 ml, etc. to measure out precise amounts of liquid.  Your doctor can tell you how much liquid to take, and how to properly measure liquid with a graduated cylinder.  He'll tell you about the "meniscus", etc.  If you bring your graduated cylinder and a little water to the doctor, he could show you how things are done.

 

Measuring liquid with a graduated cylinder becomes problematic and serial dilution becomes useful when the amounts of medication-containing-liquid become too small to be accurately measured with a graduated cylinder.  Let's say, for example, that 5 ml of a liquid contains 5 mg of a medication.  This means that 1 ml of the same liquid will contain 1 mg of a medication.  0.1 ml of the same liquid will contain 0.1 mg of the medication.  Let's say that we want to take 0.1 mg of medication.  Our graduated cylinder might not be accurate enough to reliably measure 0.1 ml.  So, what do we do?  What if we dilute our original liquid (with water, alcohol, or whatever is appropriate) so that 10 ml of a new solution contains 0.1 mg of the medication?  Then, in order to reliably measure out 0.1 mg of the medication, we don't have to try in vain to measure out 0.1 ml, we can measure out 10 ml instead.  With the original solution (the one that is concentrated), making a measurement error of just the tiniest drop will cause huge errors in our measurements.  However, this same tiny drop will cause far less of an error when using a diluted solution.

 

If your doctor is willing to prescribe this method of taking medication, make sure that you obtain a new, unused graduated cylinder from a reliable source.  You don't know what sorts of chemicals/medications might have been measured in a used graduated cylinder.

 


various SSRI for years

 

20 mg Lyrica 2010

30 mg to 0 mg Prozac 2012

Reinstate 20 mg Prozac 2012

Drop to 19 mg Prozac 2013

Reinstate 20 mg Prozac 1 month later (2013)

Gradual decrease of Prozac dosage starting in late summer of 2015, currently at 11.2 mg/day

 

use of vitamin D3, fish oil, and magnesium at various times

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ramarko

Hi SA!!

two days ago I prepared 10ml of purified water with 10mg of lexapro and the pill dissolved very fast but it always remains powder on the bottom of the small jar I am using.

I tried shaking, moving, mixing and everything and I sill see the powder on the bottom of the Translucent water.

Any advices?

If I take 1ml of this preparation it will not be at all 1mg. is there any way to have 100% dissolved liquid lexapro home made?

I also tried adding 10ml more resulting of 20ml with a 10mg pill and I got the same result... pill not dissolving 100% still powder there.

 

Maybe I did something wrong?

 

Thanks!


Started Lexapro 20mg on November 2011. Started to tapper of on 2016. 2.5mg every 3 or 4 months then tried to quit when I was on 1.25mg.

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From the very first post in this topic:

 

2. Measure the water (or pharmacy liquid)

  • With an oral syringe: Draw room temperature (not hot, not cold) water into an oral syringe and convey it to the container. A 10mL (10cc) or 20mL (20cc) oral syringe is handy for this purpose.[br][br][br]

    For example, if you wish to make 30mL of a solution, fill the 10mL syringe 3 times with clean water and inject it into your container.
  • With a graduated cylinder: For example, if you wish to make 30mL of a solution, fill the graduated cylinder to the 30mL mark and pour it into the container.
  • With a 100cc (100mL) medicine bottle: Fill carefully to the 100cc or 100mL line. You'll have to bring the bottle up to your eye level to do this. Please note the measurements on these bottles are less exact than the graduated cylinder.

To mix, put the cap on the container, tightly, and shake it gently. You will be able to see particles swirling around in the water (some of the filler used in tablets and capsules is insoluble).
 
Wait until the tablet chunks are dissolved before taking a dose.


Being very patient.  I'll get there - slowly.  ETA mid 2021

ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (caused muscle weakness), Zoloft/sertraline; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (mild Serotonin Toxicity)

Began tapering Oct 2015  Current from 17 Oct 2020:  Pristiq 0.56 mg (compounded + liquid)

My tapering program

My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

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Altostrata
On 11/7/2017 at 4:04 AM, Drugrage said:

i Am onsdag att really low doser and have a lot of tablets. Buying new liquid lexapro on Sweden costs anout 50 dollars and i domt need the whole bottle.

 

When i solve tablets in water do i get white particles which sinks to the bottom. Is this the coating or the actual active ingredient?

I dont feel comfortable just take a part of the liquid because those particles sink down really fast so if it actually is active ingredients do i have a problem.

 

 

 

 

Please read this topic from the beginning.


This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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On 27/07/2012 at 3:44 AM, Altostrata said:

A liquid preparation of an antidepressant or other psychiatric drug makes controlled tapering much easier. Taking part of your dosage in tablet form and part in liquid form makes the transition from tablet to liquid go smoothly

 

This sentence made me curious...

 

Take 10 mg from a tablet is not the same thing that take 10 mg in liquid form from the pharmacological point of view. At least in a transition phase, since the absorption is different...Over time time it becomes indifferent, of course...

 

But it drives me to other question: taking 5 mg from a tablet and 4 mg from liquid, is not the same thing that taking 9 mg from liquid. I mean, each one has its own  pharmacokinetic.

 

How far is this important during the tapering of low doses?


Morning

Escitalopram 10 mg from 2005 to present

Dec 10.17 reduced to 9 mg; reinstated 10 mg; Jan 2.18 9 mg; Fev 12.18 8 mg; Jan 30.20 5 mg; Feb 6.20 reinstated 6 mg

Ethyl Loflazepate 2 mg from 2005 to present

 

Night

Mirtazapine 15 mg from 2015 to present (November reinforcement 30mg) Dec 8.17 15 mg

Levomepromazine 25 mg started November 2017

8/12/2017 12.5 mg; 13/12/17 6.25 mg; 20/12/2017 3.125 mg; 23/12/2017 last 3.125 mg

Clonazepam 2 mg started Nov. 2017 (occasionally) ; last week 2 mg; Dec 19.17 1 mg; Dec 21.17 1.5 mg ; Dec 22.17 2 mg; Jan 2.2018 1.9 mg; Jan 7.2018 3mg; Jan 8.18 2mg; Jan 16.18 1.8 mg; Jan 17.18 1.5 mg ; Jan 18.18 1.7 mg; Jan 19.18 1.6 mg; Fev 12.18 1.5 mg; Jan 30.20 0.5 mg

Xanax XR 1 mg in subtitution of Ethyl Loflazepate 2mg (occasionally)

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On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 6:00 PM, Jony said:

 

This sentence made me curious...

 

Take 10 mg from a tablet is not the same thing that take 10 mg in liquid form from the pharmacological point of view. At least in a transition phase, since the absorption is different...Over time time it becomes indifferent, of course...

 

But it drives me to other question: taking 5 mg from a tablet and 4 mg from liquid, is not the same thing that taking 9 mg from liquid. I mean, each one has its own  pharmacokinetic.

 

How far is this important during the tapering of low doses?

It probably depends on a few things.

 

For a long half life drug like prozac or diazepam each dose just tops up what is already in you a fraction, so if that small top up takes place over 15 minutes or 2 hours may not matter.

 

If you take a pill of an easily water-soluble drug on an empty stomach with a warm drink you are probably going to absorb it almost as quickly as a solution. But if you take a pill with a heavy meal and switch to a liquid on an empty stomach it's going to be very different. Or if you dissolve your liquid in a bottle of mineral water and sip it over the course of two hours, you may mimic a pill taken after a large meal.

 

So many variables.


Current daily meds. Citalopram 2.5mg morning. Diazapam 1.5mg evening, Propanalol 40mg split 4x10mg throughout day.

 

Recent meds. Fluoxetine 20mg began 24th Nov 2017, CT on 4th December on medical advice due to bad Akathisia. Citalopram 10mg began on 13th Dec 2017, tapered to 2.5mg by 20th Dec 2017 on medical advice. Diazapam 2mg began on 6th Dec 2017 cut to 1.5 mg on 26th Dec. Propanalol 40mg began on 13th Dec. Zopiclone 3.75 mg began 13th December, used maybe 5 times then quit.

 

Previous history. Tricyclics, Fluoxetine or Citalopram for periods of 6mo to 2yrs over last 25 years. Probably 5 yrs in total. No significant ill effects.

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Hi, could anyone advise how to make a liquid diazepam/valium solution without using alcohol. I can buy all the correct measuring products and do the process, I'm just confused about exactly how to prepare the solution of homogenous valium liquid. 

Some say to use alcohol to dissolve it but I definitely won't do this, since I'm intolerant to it. What can I use instead? 

Thank you


  • 2008: Started Citalopram 30mg
  • Sept 2014: Tapered down Citalopram over 6 months and discontinued Feb 2015
  • Severe withdrawals peaked in July/Aug 2015. Totally housebound.
  • Sept 2015: Sertraline started @ 100mg on GP advice.
  • Oct to Dec 2015: Reduced to Sertraline 50mg due to side effects. 
  • Jan 2016 to March 2017: Tapered Sertraline to 2mg @ 10% per month. 
  • Severe withdrawals peaked again June 2017. Totally housebound. 
  • Diazepam: July 2017 5mg // Aug 2017 2.5mg // Sept 2017 1mg // 12th Dec 2017 0.85mg 
  • Sertraline Reinstatement: 23 Oct 2017 5mg // 15 Nov 2017 10mg // 23 Nov 2017 15mg 

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4 hours ago, JamesF said:

Hi, could anyone advise how to make a liquid diazepam/valium solution without using alcohol. I can buy all the correct measuring products and do the process, I'm just confused about exactly how to prepare the solution of homogenous valium liquid. 

Some say to use alcohol to dissolve it but I definitely won't do this, since I'm intolerant to it. What can I use instead? 

Thank you

 

Information about the different benzos and what liquid to use is posted here:

 

Benzo Tapering Nuggets - liquid tapering information

 

I've posted with more information specific to your individual taper here in your benzo thread

 


Drug free May 22, 2015 after 30 years of neuroleptics, benzos, z-drugs, so-called "anti"-depressants, and amphetamines 

 

My Success Story:  Shep's Success: "Leaving Plato's Cave"

 

And what is good, Phaedrus, and what is not good — need we ask anyone to tell us these things? ~ Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

 

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On 1/26/2018 at 9:11 AM, Shep said:

 

Information about the different benzos and what liquid to use is posted here:

 

Benzo Tapering Nuggets - liquid tapering information

 

I've posted with more information specific to your individual taper here in your benzo thread

 


Thank you Shep Do you know how much propylene glycol would be required for dissolution per mg of valium? 

Further, I'm wondering if after dissolving in propylene glycol then mixing with water, would it be evenly distributed and stay dissolved?

 


  • 2008: Started Citalopram 30mg
  • Sept 2014: Tapered down Citalopram over 6 months and discontinued Feb 2015
  • Severe withdrawals peaked in July/Aug 2015. Totally housebound.
  • Sept 2015: Sertraline started @ 100mg on GP advice.
  • Oct to Dec 2015: Reduced to Sertraline 50mg due to side effects. 
  • Jan 2016 to March 2017: Tapered Sertraline to 2mg @ 10% per month. 
  • Severe withdrawals peaked again June 2017. Totally housebound. 
  • Diazepam: July 2017 5mg // Aug 2017 2.5mg // Sept 2017 1mg // 12th Dec 2017 0.85mg 
  • Sertraline Reinstatement: 23 Oct 2017 5mg // 15 Nov 2017 10mg // 23 Nov 2017 15mg 

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JamesF

Just to add to the above. Will a propylene glycol + valium + water mix "keep" in the same state for some days after mixing ? Does it need to be stored in a particular way?

 

Apologies I'm not very good at finding information in my current state

 

Thank you. Jay

 

 


  • 2008: Started Citalopram 30mg
  • Sept 2014: Tapered down Citalopram over 6 months and discontinued Feb 2015
  • Severe withdrawals peaked in July/Aug 2015. Totally housebound.
  • Sept 2015: Sertraline started @ 100mg on GP advice.
  • Oct to Dec 2015: Reduced to Sertraline 50mg due to side effects. 
  • Jan 2016 to March 2017: Tapered Sertraline to 2mg @ 10% per month. 
  • Severe withdrawals peaked again June 2017. Totally housebound. 
  • Diazepam: July 2017 5mg // Aug 2017 2.5mg // Sept 2017 1mg // 12th Dec 2017 0.85mg 
  • Sertraline Reinstatement: 23 Oct 2017 5mg // 15 Nov 2017 10mg // 23 Nov 2017 15mg 

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Dabhob33

I just picked up prescribed Liquid Valium (Roxane, with non alcohol suspension).  I’m currently holding at 11mg (down from 20mg since Oct 2017) for the past 2 weeks, starting 3 weeks today.  Symptoms are rough - mostly burning body, squeezed head, cog fog, fatigue, ruminating that I’ve permanenrly damage myself with the drugs I’ve taken and ECTs.  

 

Has anyone taken commercial Liquid Valium, even Roxane?   Reactions?   Any feedback is appreciated.   

 

I hope youre doing well. 

 

Dabhob33

 

 


Dabhob33

- Pristiq  25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017.  Last dose 25mg  December 20, 2017  - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg.

- 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper)

- 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium)  started May 1 2017.  Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper.  Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018).  Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper.  

Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg

Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018

Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017  Tested on July 13, 2018  .60 mmol/L result.  Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L

 

Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg).  Last taken on July 5, 2018.  Don’t plan on continuing to take.  

 

I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI).   Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me.   Is it still affecting me?

 

 

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On 1/26/2018 at 4:11 AM, Shep said:

 

Information about the different benzos and what liquid to use is posted here:

 

Benzo Tapering Nuggets - liquid tapering information

 

I've posted with more information specific to your individual taper here in your benzo thread

 

This is a month old, but there is a liquid Valium made by Roxane, owned by West-Ward.  They have one that uses an alcohol suspension and another using a non-alcohol suspension.  Hope this helps.   My Dr prescribed it for me and I will be starting it relatively soon.  

 

http://www.west-ward.com/en//Home/Content/Roxane Landing Page


Dabhob33

- Pristiq  25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017.  Last dose 25mg  December 20, 2017  - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg.

- 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper)

- 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium)  started May 1 2017.  Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper.  Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018).  Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper.  

Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg

Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018

Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017  Tested on July 13, 2018  .60 mmol/L result.  Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L

 

Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg).  Last taken on July 5, 2018.  Don’t plan on continuing to take.  

 

I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI).   Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me.   Is it still affecting me?

 

 

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I have a question regarding the halfway point of a water titration taper. I am looking to see what others have done in my situation and the results they’ve experienced.
 
I am presently tapering mirtazapine via water titration. I am now approaching 15mg, the halfway mark of the taper. 
 
Method Before the Halfway Point
 
I drop a 30mg drug tablet into 60/ml of water to form a drug solution. That means, for every 1mg of drug tablet, there is 2/ml of water. Up to this point, I have removed drug solution with syringes and consumed the remaining solution in the cup, the “dose.” The solution in the syringes is discarded. At present, I remove nearly half the drug solution from the cup; however, soon there will not be enough solution remaining to reliably pull up with a syringe.
 
Method After the Halfway Point
 
Do I now inverse the process? That is, do I now remove the “dose” with the syringes and discard the cup?  I mean, it looks like this is the only way to proceed. However, there are several issues with this.
 
Potential Issues
 
Removing 30/ml of drug solution theoretically removes 15mg of drug. Whether I am actually removing 15mg of drug, who knows. The most important thing thus far has been consistency as opposed to accuracy. But inverting the process causes a major shift in consistency.
 
1a. It seems clear I will be taking the same amount of drug solution. However, am I taking the same amount of drug? Do more or less drug particles get sucked into the syringe? 
 
1b. Is there any experiment to clarify this? I can see lots of white particles (the drug/filler or both) in both the syringes and cup. I am trying to see if I can evaporate the water and measure the particles left behind.
 
2. What about the drug left behind in the syringes? I use four syringes per taper. Even if I rinse the syringes, there will invariably be drug left behind there. This seems like a loss I must accept.
 
3. I am very sensitive to changes and conduct a micro taper (.05mg cuts) so a significant change to the “dose” will definitely be felt. I am concerned that the “dose” may change.
 
What have others done in my situation? What were the results?

Many previous drugs.

 

June 2014:    Mirtazapine 30mg, Lithium 600mg, and Lyrica 100mg. (Acute withdrawal ends, but general withdrawal continues.)

June 2015:    Mirtazapine 26.5mg,  Lithium 535mg, and Lyrica 75mg.

June 2016:    Mirtazapine 20mg,  Lithium 350mg, and Lyrica 30mg. 

June 2017:    Mirtazapine 19.1mg,  Lithium 200mg, Lyrica .5mg  (Lyrica discontinued September 2017)

March 2018:  Mirtazapine 16.15mg, Lithium 90mg 

October 2019: Mirtazapine 4.65mg (Lithium discontinued March 2019)

June 2020:    Mirtazapine 1.25mg

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Altostrata
1 hour ago, dignan said:

Do I now inverse the process? That is, do I now remove the “dose” with the syringes and discard the cup?  I mean, it looks like this is the only way to proceed.

 

You can do this, or you can continue with your current method.

 

By the way, you don't have to discard more than half of your homemade suspension, you can refrigerate it in a sealed container for the next day.

 

As explained at the beginning of this topic, making a suspension with water is not perfect, although many have successfully tapered with this method. We advise shaking or stirring before you take it, to distribute the particles more or less evenly.

 

Making a suspension with a pharmacy liquid such as Ora-Plus may more reliably distribute the particles if you are concerned about that.


This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Lakelander82

If you double the liquid you’re dispersing your tablet in, do you increase the margin for error or increase accuracy for that matter? I disperse 25mg of Sertraline in 25mls of water but I’m thinking of dispersing it in 50mls of water instead for ease of use. What are the moderators thoughts on this? 


May 2007 - October 2007 Citalopram 20 mg od. 1st Antidepressant ever taken. No problem with fast taper and no withdrawal effects. No antidepressants for over 5 years.

 

January 2013 started Citalopram 20mg.

March 2014 Switched to Sertraline 50 mg od.

23rd June 2016 started taper 45mg

23.07.16 40.5mg 23.08.16 36.45mg 27.09.16 34.65mg 24.10.16 32.90mg 28.11.16 31.26mg 04.01.17 32mg 25.02.17 31mg 22.03.17 30mg 14.04.17 29mg 09.05.17 28mg 07.06.17 27mg 08.06.17 26mg 13.07.17 25mg 07.08.17 24mg 24.08.17 23mg 13.09.17 22mg 12.10.17 21mg 10.11.17 20mg 04.12.17 19mg 01.01.18 17mg 25.01.18 15mg 22.02.18 13.5mg 25.03.18 12.15mg 

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brassmonkey

You would increase the accuracy.  


20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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