jack9: please help me what to do

[jack9]

No i didnt have the dizziness before reinstating and it happened after a week from reinstating 

@getofflex

Can i still taper if i have the dizziness ? 

[getofflex]

You reinstated to a higher dose than what we on this site suggest.  We usually suggest about a 0.5 mg reinstatement for Lexapro.  If your dizziness if not severe, I would suggest waiting a few weeks, and then doing a reduction of your Lexapro.  How bad is your dizziness?  Are you able to function OK in your day to day life? Do you still have the reduced appetite? 

[jack9]

My appetite is better but still not normal 

And about the dizziness yesterdat it wasnt so bad but today is bad but i can walk i mean 

I think its a side effect from the med since im in my second week only 

Dont forget that i only switched to lexapro for one week before i stopped so im still new to the med @getofflex

[jack9]

Any help / opinion ?

@getofflex

Can i still reduce dose while dizzy ? How would i notice withdrawal symptoms if i did it ? 

[getofflex]

I have already answered your question here.  Please do not tag me anymore.  

 

On 7/14/2022 at 9:18 AM, getofflex said:

If your dizziness if not severe, I would suggest waiting a few weeks, and then doing a reduction of your Lexapro.

 

Altostrata, the founder of this site, has posted this in the thread "What Will Get You Warned or Banned".  

 

On 6/15/2011 at 1:45 PM, Altostrata said:

- Overuse of tagging to get reassurance from the staff

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If you want to go off psychiatric drugs, you must learn to manage habits of mind that might have led you to seek psychiatric treatment originally. These habits of mind may include: Irrational worrying, health anxiety, perseveration (repeating the same thing over and over again), rumination, inability to make decisions, needing constant reassurance, chronic pessimism, chronic hostility, finding fault with everything.

 

These habits of mind might have caused you a great deal of distress in your life, as well as causing distress to your family, friends, and employers, who may have urged you to seek psychiatric treatment. While we are sympathetic to the pain these problems have caused you, there is no way around your responsibility. If necessary, you may need to engage the services of a psychotherapist or other counselor to learn those self-management skills.

 

The staff here cannot meet the emotional needs that overwhelmed your family, friends, and employers, and it is unfair and exploitative of you to expect them to.

 

If a staff member communicates to you that you are wearing them out, please do not continue to demand their attention. We require you to respect the time, and dedication of the staff and limit tagging them to important questions about tapering or withdrawal symptoms.

 

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[jack9]

Im sorry 

But wont i make it worse if im a bit dizzy and tapered more ? Qhow would i notice changes if im dizzy anyways ? 

[Altostrata]

How do you feel in the morning, before you take 2.5mg Lexapro? How do you feel afterward?

 

How did you feel while you were taking Prozac June 2-23?

[jack9]

I take lexapro in the night 

So last days i woke up feeling dizzy and it become less a bit during the day 

 

When i took prozac to lessen the withdrawal symptoms from lexapro i felt liek dizziness and nausea and zaps from withdrawal has gone away but i had some indigestion from prozac but once i stopped the prozac bridge only the nausea persisited so i reinstated lexapro and here we go.. but im considered on my 2nd week so i think its okay to have these side effects as im new to the med right ? 

[Altostrata]

What time o'clock do you take Lexapro? At about what time does the dizziness go away?

[jack9]

I take it at around 10 pm and the Dizziness get less as time move on next day 

Its the most in morning then less as the day continue but it never fully go away

I didnt have it at first when i reinstated 

[jack9]

My only question is when i can start tapering + is it ok to taper when you have side effects like dizziness from the med ? 

[Altostrata]

You might reduce it to 2mg Lexapro. It may be that 2.5mg is too much for you.

[jack9]

Im not much dizzy last 2 days 

It has gobne away i think it was just a side effect since im new to the med 

Anyways i will wait some more time to make sure what my symtpoms are before lowering..

The side effects you have when taking the meds go away when you stop right ? 

[jack9]

I mean the dizziness is less than what it was but is this simething dangerous ? If i lowered the dose what would happen ?

[ChessieCat]

20 hours ago, Altostrata said:

You might reduce it to 2mg Lexapro. It may be that 2.5mg is too much for you.

 

Q:  Did you reduce to 2mg Lexapro?

[jack9]

No i didnt do anything 

I just want to make sure not to make things worse so im discussing that with you 

I mean im not that dizzy anymore im just having the normal ssri side effects like reduced appetite which got a bit better and some diarrhea and my head feels heavy.

But the thing is i dont think this is not normal since im new to the med right ? 

Remember i swicthed to it then stopped so when i got back on it i was on the first week anyways 

Did you get what i mean ? Im having the same side effects that i had before quitting 

[Altostrata]

12 hours ago, jack9 said:

Did you get what i mean ? Im having the same side effects that i had before quitting 

 

I'm confused by your account. If you're getting the same old adverse effects from 2.5mg Lexapro, we suggest you reduce it to reduce the adverse effects. Since you've been taking 2.5mg Lexapro only since July 2, it's unlikely you will get serious withdrawal symptoms from lowering the dose. The longer you wait, the more likely withdrawal symptoms.

 

If you don't want to lower the dose, you'll have to cope with the adverse effects.

 

I believe I've explained this before. I'm not going to explain it again. It's your decision.

[jack9]

I reinstated on july 2 

I started on 16 may and was on previous meds before for one year to be clear 

Anyways i will reduce my dose and see 

But i have a last question : 

should i monitor if new symptoms occured as i already have some side effects from the med so this will be hard to tell

[ChessieCat]

32 minutes ago, jack9 said:

should i monitor if new symptoms occured as i already have some side effects from the med so this will be hard to tell

 

Whenever you make a change it is always a good idea to keep notes for yourself.  This may help you to see small improvements that you don't notice.  This can happen when you don't feel good, just like when you have the flu.  On day 4 you might feel better than you did on the previous days, but because you still feel awful you don't notice/remember that you don't have a headache any more or that you don't need to take paracetomol for the aches you had.  Of course these are just examples of flu symptoms.

[jack9]

Are there people who go through witgdrawal so they reinstate and taper slower and succeed ? Should i be scared ? 

 

[jack9]

Hey there

Can i ask you a question ? 

Thes side effects of reinstating ( the side effects of the drug for me are reduced appetite and some headaches which causes a bit of lightheadedness )  do they go away when you finish your taper ? 

[jack9]

Some help here with my question when you are free because i feel suicidal 😔

[jack9]

I have a question 

When can someone take antibiotic or drink alcohol as normal ? After healing completely ? Is there any way to know ?

 

[cm1212]

Hi Jack- I wouldn't know the answer to that. I'd try asking on a wider thread.

[jack9]

Can someone from the moderstors maybe help guide us @Altostrata

where can i dind some information to my question plz ? 

About things to avoid after healing or when can you take antibiotics and drink alcohol normally ?

[jack9]

I have a question 

Can some admin guide me if you know or some information ? 

When can you say that you can drink alcohol normally or take antibiotic without being afraid if them making you worse ? 

Is it after the withdrawal ending you will forget about withdrawal or you will have to avoid something in the future ? 

Thanks @ChessieCat

[ChessieCat]

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Please do not tag me for any reason.  I have this request clearly stated in my signature.  Thank you.

 

[jack9]

I didnt find an anwer for my question : 

when can you drink alcohol and take antibiotics normally without fear ? Should you wait until you fully heal and it will not be an issue ?

[ChessieCat]

There is no way we can predict when a person will be okay to drink alcohol without issue; it is going to depend on how your nervous system recovers as well as other factors in a person's life, eg life stressors, health/sickness etc.  Regarding antibiotics, if you have a proven infection (ie a blood test or other test has confirmed that there is definitely a bacterial infection; viruses cannot be treated with antibiotics) then generally it would be necessary to be treated with an antibiotic otherwise you might end up with a larger issue and therefore need more or stronger antibiotics.  However you do need to be careful what type of antibiotic is taken; see the link in the below quote.

 

This information is in the link I provided above.

 

On 7/6/2020 at 5:50 AM, brassmonkey said:

Drinking alcohol is a major factor in excellent recoveries getting derailed.  We just had a case of a member who has been drug free for several years with an excellent recovery underway.  They had a couple of drinks over the weekend and tripped off their symptoms all over again.  Luckily, it cleared in a few days, but that is not always the case. We have also found that doing a course of antibiotics can trigger a wave, as can the addition of non-psychiatric drugs. There is further discussion on this elsewhere in the forum. cipro-levaquin-azithromycin-z-pack-and-other-antibiotics

 

alcohol-wine-and-beer

 

[Altostrata]

Don't plan on drinking any time soon.

[jack9]

Is waiting one wear after the withdrawal ends safe ? Also for the antibiotics thing 

 

Will the body be like it was before this poison with no sensitivities ? 

 

Im healing off everything now 

 

No longer nausea 

Just some eye pain and nerve issues ( getting better with time ) 

[Altostrata]

You might be stable after a year. You'll have to see if you still have withdrawal symptoms then.

[jack9]

That's what i mean ! When the withdrawal is over will i be able to do whatever i want like before ? Is there something should i avoid after the withdrawal ends ? 

 

Another question i have some muscle and joint issues.. should i do something stretching or they will get better on their own ?

[Altostrata]

8 hours ago, jack9 said:

That's what i mean ! When the withdrawal is over will i be able to do whatever i want like before ?

 

We don't know, sorry. You'll have to see how you're doing.

[ChessieCat]

9 hours ago, jack9 said:

Another question i have some muscle and joint issues.. should i do something stretching or they will get better on their own ?

 

My suggestion would be to see a physical therapist / physiotherapist who can assess you and provide you with the correct exercises / stretches.  SA is a site staffed by unpaid peers (related to psychiatric drugs) who are NOT medical professionals so we are not able to assist with this issue.

 

However, there are some topics in the Symptoms and Self Care forum where members discuss this type of thing.

[Altostrata]

Did you look at these topics? Magnesium can help muscle aches.

 

On 7/3/2022 at 2:17 PM, getofflex said:

We don't suggest many supplements, but 2 that many of us find helpful are magnesium and omega-3 fish oil. Here are the links for info about those. It is suggested to add one at a time, and start with a low dose to see how it affects you. 

Magnesium

Omega 3 Fish Oil