Punarbhava Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 (edited) http://www.ismp.org/tools/donotcrush.pdf Thought I'd post this list for those who have decided to liquid titrate (crushing tablets or opening capsules, disolving in liquid and then measuring out the required dose).Note: Most Extended-Release Medications are on this Do Not Crush List. Also, please take the time to read the warnings and recommendations that are outlined below the list. Unfortunately this list is no longer available. See this post here. Administrator's note: This list from a UK medical group contains information about crushing and making liquids of many drugs: http://stockportccg.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/34838_Med_Admin_Dysphagia.pdfAlso see How to make a liquid from tablets or capsules Edited November 30, 2022 by manymoretodays updated To Face My Trials with "The Grace of a Woman Rather Than the Grief of a Child". (quote section by Veronica A. Shoffstall) Be Not Afraid of Growing Slowly. Be Afraid of Only Standing Still. (Chinese Proverb) I Create and Build Empowerment Within Each Time I Choose to Face A Fear, Sit with it and Ask Myself, "What Do I Need to Learn?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted May 6, 2011 Administrator Share Posted May 6, 2011 Thanks, Pun. This is from what appears to be a reputable non-profit organization of pharmacists and other medical professionals, the Institute for Safe Medication Practices (ISMP). There are some good tips here, for example: Cymbalta Slow-release (a); Note: may add contents of capsule to apple juice or applesauce but NOT chocolate This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punarbhava Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 (edited) Thanks, Pun. This is from what appears to be a reputable non-profit organization of pharmacists and other medical professionals, the Institute for Safe Medication Practices (ISMP). There are some good tips here, for example: Cymbalta Slow-release (a); Note: may add contents of capsule to apple juice or applesauce but NOT chocolate Sur, I've had this article in my research files for a few years now but thought it was really important info and thus, decided to post it. Yes, so many important tips as well. BTW, do you think it may be beneficial to create a link to this post in the Tapering thread, so those who are tapering will be aware and thus, more informed, of what is covered in this report? Not all psyche drugs come in liquid form and thus, many must crush or open capsules and create their own liquid suspensions in order to taper slowly. Also, I know from being on different forums that some people do not seem to tolerate the pharma liquid preparations as well as the pills or capsules, not to mention some don't like the liquid versions because some brands are too thick and sticky. Consequently, they land up reverting back to creating their own liquid suspensions. I've also read of some people not transitioning well from pills to pharma liquid versions of the drug. Perhaps the liquid versions contain some type of ingredient that some may be allergic or sensitive to? Gosh, I wish I could recall this but can't ATM. Anyway, I'm just sharing what others have reported over the years. I have no personal experience with liquid versions of meds but rather, created my own liquid suspension. Pun Edited May 6, 2011 by surviving removed extra line breaks To Face My Trials with "The Grace of a Woman Rather Than the Grief of a Child". (quote section by Veronica A. Shoffstall) Be Not Afraid of Growing Slowly. Be Afraid of Only Standing Still. (Chinese Proverb) I Create and Build Empowerment Within Each Time I Choose to Face A Fear, Sit with it and Ask Myself, "What Do I Need to Learn?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted May 6, 2011 Administrator Share Posted May 6, 2011 Yep, it's already been linked to! I would caution folks, though -- if your drug is not on this list, it does not mean you can crush it and put it in water. Sometimes the active ingredient reacts badly with H2O. To find out if there are any studies done about the stability of the drug in water, I would Google [drug name] solubility or [drug name] liquid to see if anyone is reporting success with making it into a liquid. Sometimes pharmacists will look this up for you, if they're not too busy. As for people not transitioning well to liquid forms -- I think this is based on the problem with variation between brand name drugs and generics and even different generics manufacturers. No one knows how sensitive you are until you try it. 1 This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meistersinger Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Yep, it's already been linked to! I would caution folks, though -- if your drug is not on this list, it does not mean you can crush it and put it in water. Sometimes the active ingredient reacts badly with H2O. To find out if there are any studies done about the stability of the drug in water, I would Google [drug name] solubility or [drug name] liquid to see if anyone is reporting success with making it into a liquid. Sometimes pharmacists will look this up for you, if they're not too busy. As for people not transitioning well to liquid forms -- I think this is based on the problem with variation between brand name drugs and generics and even different generics manufacturers. No one knows how sensitive you are until you try it. Alto, I just discovered that Viibryd is soluable. I thought I saw a method on this board on how to create a liquid form of the drug. What equipment do i need (i'm on general assistance) to do this? History: 1995--Prozac--Quit CT by GP 1995--Effexor--Quit per my GP 1996--Amitriphene--Quit CT when changed GP 2005--Citalopram and BusPar. Prescribed when I decompensated in my GP's office. GP referred me to behavior health. Psychiatrist prescibed these drugs. Taken off citalopram in 2011 due to FDA warning. Quit Buspar during transition to viibryd. Viibryd--2011 to present. Had a severe reaction in March 2012. Advised both GP and Psychiatrist I was trying to get off these drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted April 9, 2012 Administrator Share Posted April 9, 2012 See tips for making a homemade liquid solution here: Making a Celexa solution yourself This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator manymoretodays Posted November 30, 2022 Moderator Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) Sadly, the ISMP is no longer doing the "Do Not Crush Drug List", and the following announcement is on their site: Announcement: On November 17, 2022, ISMP has removed the table of Do Not Crush Medications from our website. This is because ISMP does not own, update, or review new or existing content on the List of Oral Dosage Forms That Should Not Be Crushed. ISMP encourages that organizations maintain, update, and periodically review a list of oral dosage forms that may require alteration through evaluation of package inserts, drug manufacturer inquiries, tertiary drug information resources, and primary literature. The List of Oral Dosage Forms That Should Not Be Crushed was originally compiled and updated by John Mitchell, PharmD. The list is now maintained and updated by Thomas Land Publishers. Any inquiries regarding the List of Oral Dosage Forms That Should Not Be Crushed should be directed to, and an email is given there, which can be found at the ISMP site(mod note: I am not able to post it direct) https://www.ismp.org/recommendations/do-not-crush Edited November 30, 2022 by manymoretodays removed email 2022 May- continuing with limited activity on site, just something I need to do right now Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator manymoretodays Posted November 30, 2022 Moderator Share Posted November 30, 2022 In addition, here is what Drugs.com has to say: Which tablets should never be crushed? (added to first post in topic, mmt) 2022 May- continuing with limited activity on site, just something I need to do right now Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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