HopeFloats Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 On 6/17/2021 at 3:15 PM, Altostrata said: Hello, @HopeFloats There is no withdrawal with magnesium. If magnesium glycinate make you too sleepy, you may wish to take less of it. You were wise to go off magnesium citrate if you thought it was causing irritation. Good to hear your bladder is feeling better since you stopped mag citrate. Thank you so much for your help. I really appreciate all that you do. Yes, you were right - I just needed to take less of the glycinate. Unfortunately my bladder is bothering me again. Withdrawals are hard enough and now this. Ugh. Prozac: .20 mg (Aug 2020 - Current); .10 mg (July 2020); .20 mg (June 2020); 30 mg (May 2020); .40 mg (April 2020); .60 mg (March 2020); .80 mg (Feb 2020); 1.0 mg (Jan 2020); 1.25 mg (July 2019) Lamotrigine: 37.5 mg (Aug 29th 2020 - Current) 43.75 mg - (Aug 25th 2020) tried splitting the dose 1 tab in morning and 3/4 tab afternoon - reacted terribly to this 37.5 mg (Aug 7th 2020); 43.75 mg (July 2020) (too high dose for me); 31.25 mg (Dec 2019); 25 mg (Nov 2019); 12.5 mg (Oct 2019) starting point Amantadine 10 ml (Jan 2020 - Current); Claritin 10 mg (Nov 2019 - Current); L-Theanine 100 mg twice a day (Nov 2019 - Current); L-Arginine 1000 mg (Sept 2020 - Current); Magnesium Glycinate 400 mg (June 2021 - Current); Iron 25 mg Baclofen 25 mg (Nov 2019 - Current) for sleep ; Melatonin 2 mg time released + L-Theanine 100 mg (on as needed basis for sleep) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamabear1984 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Soo I have taken some magnesium glycinate the last couple days and it seemed to knock out some of the cortisol and anxiety but it makes me sleepy. I've actually been able to move around a bit and cuddle my kids and eat! 😊 So far no bad reaction Is there another kind that would work just as good without the sedation. 37.9 Effexor March to end of November 2020 C/T (no withdrawal that i could see as of end of January) 2 doses effexor 37.9 late January 2021 (BP/HR went through the roof) Propranolol 15mg whole month February C/T Buspar 10mg TID 4 weeks early March CT Reinstate early April due to withdrawal Tapered down somewhat fast to 5mg Twice a day Started 5mg once a day April 22. April 28 was last dose. Somewhere between April 22 and 28 had one dose of Effexor (deathly sick) Multiple antibiotics and a couple Diflucan in those times and Pravastatin. June started taking Magnesium, fishoil,melatonin Only taking those now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dA2021 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 I have been taking Magnesium Glycinate 250mg as meant to help with sleep. Should I take at least two hours before my Sertraline tablet as been taking together 2013 Citalopram 50mg 2014 February Sertraline 50mg 2014 September Fluoxitine 20mg 2015 May Fluoxitine 20mg (Liquid to reduce off) 2015 Septmber Lofepramine 70mg 2016 May Lofepramine 70mg (Liquid to reduce off) 2016 Dec Zopiclone (to aid short term insomnia) 2017 August Amitriptyline 10mg 2016 October Venlafaxine 37.5 rising to 225mg January 2018 2018 January Sertraline 50mg rising to 150mg 2021 January Sertraline 125mg/150mg alternate days (GP advise ... Started micro taper and found this website....2021 May 100mg daily 2021 September 95mg daily December 2021 85mg daily. Vitamins; Selenium / Vitamin D high strength / Evening primrose oil 1000mg High Strength / Omega 3 High Strength / Folic Acid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dA2021 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 I have magnesium Glycinate capsule's 250mh wondered if I weighed out the powder in half and reduce dose that may help. 2013 Citalopram 50mg 2014 February Sertraline 50mg 2014 September Fluoxitine 20mg 2015 May Fluoxitine 20mg (Liquid to reduce off) 2015 Septmber Lofepramine 70mg 2016 May Lofepramine 70mg (Liquid to reduce off) 2016 Dec Zopiclone (to aid short term insomnia) 2017 August Amitriptyline 10mg 2016 October Venlafaxine 37.5 rising to 225mg January 2018 2018 January Sertraline 50mg rising to 150mg 2021 January Sertraline 125mg/150mg alternate days (GP advise ... Started micro taper and found this website....2021 May 100mg daily 2021 September 95mg daily December 2021 85mg daily. Vitamins; Selenium / Vitamin D high strength / Evening primrose oil 1000mg High Strength / Omega 3 High Strength / Folic Acid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeFloats Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 hours ago, dA2021 said: I have magnesium Glycinate capsule's 250mh wondered if I weighed out the powder in half and reduce dose that may help. Hello there, So sorry but I am not the best person to answer your questions. I would reach out to the moderators on this site for direction before you make any changes. They will know best and be able to help you. Best of luck to you in your journey. Take care, HopeFloats Prozac: .20 mg (Aug 2020 - Current); .10 mg (July 2020); .20 mg (June 2020); 30 mg (May 2020); .40 mg (April 2020); .60 mg (March 2020); .80 mg (Feb 2020); 1.0 mg (Jan 2020); 1.25 mg (July 2019) Lamotrigine: 37.5 mg (Aug 29th 2020 - Current) 43.75 mg - (Aug 25th 2020) tried splitting the dose 1 tab in morning and 3/4 tab afternoon - reacted terribly to this 37.5 mg (Aug 7th 2020); 43.75 mg (July 2020) (too high dose for me); 31.25 mg (Dec 2019); 25 mg (Nov 2019); 12.5 mg (Oct 2019) starting point Amantadine 10 ml (Jan 2020 - Current); Claritin 10 mg (Nov 2019 - Current); L-Theanine 100 mg twice a day (Nov 2019 - Current); L-Arginine 1000 mg (Sept 2020 - Current); Magnesium Glycinate 400 mg (June 2021 - Current); Iron 25 mg Baclofen 25 mg (Nov 2019 - Current) for sleep ; Melatonin 2 mg time released + L-Theanine 100 mg (on as needed basis for sleep) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator brassmonkey Posted August 18, 2021 Moderator Share Posted August 18, 2021 250mg is a pretty typical dose, taking less might not be as affective. If your are taking it to help with sleep you should take it about 2 hours before bed. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gn11 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 I was taking some magnesium glycinate...I cut it down maybe too fast I am now doing some electrolytes like coconut water and something that I add to water since yesterday. My palpitations stopped but I have mild anxiety with my digestion. I've had digestion issues that affect my eyes, sinus and more. I just jumped from 0.60 mg of Celexa after 4 and half year taper. Anyone had any thoughts about hoe to handle this magnesium situation? 2006-2007 Lexapro (not sure of dose) in 2006 2007 Stopped abruptly. Developed serious wd symptom.Went back after two weeks and tapered successfully over 3 months November 2013 started 10 mg of Celexa for hormonal symptoms early 2014 cutdown Celexa to 5 mg.Attempted to get off it November 2014 and had Anxiety increased every time I used an OTC or had stress. April-May Cortisol spike problems July 2016 Started taking liquid Celexa 7.5 mg June 2021 I finished my taper en Severe anxiety and insomnia June 2022 symptoms omproved July 2023 gut issues and sleep issues contnue . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gn11 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 minute ago, gn11 said: I was taking some magnesium glycinate...I cut it down maybe too fast I am now doing some electrolytes like coconut water and something that I add to water since yesterday. My palpitations stopped but I have mild anxiety with my digestion. I've had digestion issues that affect my eyes, sinus and more. I just jumped from 0.60 mg of Celexa after 4 and half year taper. Anyone had any thoughts about hoe to handle this magnesium situation? Di you have to taper slowly..do you build owly...is it okay to mix electrolytes ...do you have to be considtconsistent in amounts and times you take it etc...I know is individual but dime suggestions would help 2006-2007 Lexapro (not sure of dose) in 2006 2007 Stopped abruptly. Developed serious wd symptom.Went back after two weeks and tapered successfully over 3 months November 2013 started 10 mg of Celexa for hormonal symptoms early 2014 cutdown Celexa to 5 mg.Attempted to get off it November 2014 and had Anxiety increased every time I used an OTC or had stress. April-May Cortisol spike problems July 2016 Started taking liquid Celexa 7.5 mg June 2021 I finished my taper en Severe anxiety and insomnia June 2022 symptoms omproved July 2023 gut issues and sleep issues contnue . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan1982 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Hey all- I took an epsom salt bath yesterday and I don’t know whether I put in too much or what, but since then I’ve been super weak, disoriented and slow. I’ve been in a wave since April. Should I be concerned at all? Can you have long-term destabilization from epsom salt? Thanks much, Ryan 2005- 2008: Lorazepam (max dose- 1 MG daily) 2008- 2016: Lexapro (max dose-10 MG daily) January 2017- March 2017- Pristiq (max dose- 100 MG daily) April 2017- June 2017: Trintellix (max dose- 10 MG) July 2017- October 2017: Lexapro (max dose-10 MG daily) November 2017- April 2018- Luvox (max dose- 100 MG) May 2018- Zoloft (max dose- 18.75) 5/28/18- 3 MG Lexapro, 6/3/18- 3 MG Lexapro, 6/7/18- 3.5 MG Lexapro, 6/13/18- 4 MG Lexapro, 6/21/18- 4.5 MG Lexapro, 6/28/18- 3/29/21- 4 MG Lexapro, 3/30/21- Present- 3.8 MG Lexapro **Bad Wave Caused by Trileptal 150 MG (one pill) in December '20 and Low Dose Naltrexone .12 MG (one pill) in April '21** "The Journey is The Reward" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sicksagittarius Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Could magnesium and calcium chloride and potassium bicarbonate in alkaline water impact WD symptoms like taking a magnesium supplement? If so, is it something I'd have to wean off of? -2014: Lexapro/escitalopram 10 mg, 2015-2021: Lexapro/escitalopram 20 mg -10/2020-3/2021: decreased 20 mg to 15 mg, 1 mg a month -4/2021: decreased to 10 mg, held for 11 days, 4/2021: decreased to 5 mg, held for 8 days -4/2021: 3-6 days cold turkey lexapro, withdrawal symptoms so reinstated 2.5 mg -omeprazole taper: 9/2021 cut 25%, 10/20/21 25% cut, 12/1/21 25%, 12/28/21 25% cut, (9/36 beads of 40 mg) -11/2020 omeprazole 20 mg, 3/2021: omeprazole 40 mg, -Nordic Naturals Ultimate omega 3 fish pill: 1280 mg -montelukast: 10 mg daily, zyrtec: 10 mg daily -3/20/2021-7/25: mesalamine 1.2 GM, 3 times a day - dropped -birth control: Trilinyah 2014- 2/1/2021 quit cold turkey middle of pack 7/16/2021-8/1/2021 Quicksilver Liposomal multivitamin liquid: biotin, zinc, Vitamins A, C, D E, K, Niacin,, Thiomine, Riboflavin,Vitamin B6, B12, 7/16/2021- 8/25/2021 - boswelia complex (tumeric. ginger, celery) - 2 a day - dropped 7/16/2021 - probiophage probiotic - dropped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Greatful Posted December 24, 2021 Mentor Share Posted December 24, 2021 @ryan1982 I tried mag baths in Nov. The package said 2-3 cups well needless to say that was way to much. I got so weak/ and very fatigued. I think at the beginning of this thread someone talked about 1 cup. I haven't taken a mag bath since. I do have another question for the thread though. I upped my Magnesium Glycinate from around 150 to 200mg a day to 400mg a day about 6-7 days ago. Well my sinuses are super dry and I have been getting heart burn. Super dry mouth too. I guess this is too much for me also. I did not know that Mag was would dry you out so much. So I think I will try 300mg for a day or so and go from there. Any suggestions anyone? https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escitalopram21 Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 @Sicksagittarius did you find any answers? i am doing a adrenal cocktail daily w coconut water, seasalt, cream of tartar (for potassium) and acerola powder for vitamin c. started wondering if any of these might affect wd. 2009 Escitalopram 10mg April 2013 got off August 2013 reinstated July 2015 Ketipinor 50mg (Quetiapin) April 2021 got off Quetiapin 4w taper May 2021 tapered off Escitalopram 9 August 2021 back on Escitalopram 2,5mg. Down to 2 mg. Updosed to 2,2mg August 24 Down to 2mg September 2 Updosed to 3mg Sept 28 December Still holding ❤️ June 9 2022 2,9 mg June 19 2022 2,85 mg December 2022 switched syringes and realized i am actually taking 3,4 mg Supplements vitamin E 400 magnesium malate a fraction of 400, Rosita Cod liver oil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mFrustrated Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Does anyone know why I would have such a bad reaction to an Epsom salt bath? It causes terrible anxiety. I had an adverse reaction to several anti depressants about 6 years ago, but I seem to be in a setback from an antibiotic my doctor gave me when I had Covid back in June. I used to be able to take Epsom salt baths with no problem, but since the antibiotic I can’t even take a bubble bath with a small amount of Epsom salt in it. It makes me so sad. It used to be one of the only things to help me relax when I was in a wave. mFrustrated Celexa- 2 days (February 2016) Paxil- 5 days (February 2016) Zoloft- 11 days (February 2016) BuSpar-2 days (June 2016) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasherr Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 @mFrustrated it is possible that besides antibiotic, covid sensitised You even more than before, as it happened to me, so You would be more prone to paradoxical reactions with earlier tolerated doses of any supplements. Or maybe it's just a coincidence, but I've found some medical papers on the net about covid sensitising CNS. Duloxetine 2016/17 - 30/60mg/30mg, c/t, light WD. Sertraline June 2019 50mg ADR Clorazepate June 2019 20-15-10mg for 3 weeks then sparsely until 2022, 2 times per month max and very low dose (5mg) Clorazepate Jan2022 10mg 5 days 2,5mg 2 days then off Venlafaxine June 2019 75mg ADR, 17,5mg, titrated to 37,5mg Venlafaxine Jan 2022 Covid, hard ADR on 37,5mg, reduced to 20mg ADR, tried ct, crash, Venlafaxine 22Jan22 reinstated 9,4mg, too low/ 01Feb22- 12mg/ 12Feb- 11,25mg/ 16Feb- 11mg/ 20Feb- 10,8mg/ 24Feb22-10,575mg/ 16Mar22- 10,46mg/ 26Mar22- 10,35mg/ 26Apr22- 10mg/ 01Oct- 9,9mg/ 13Nov- 9,7mg 01Jan24-7,5mg MAR24 Due to another sudden intolerance had to fast taper venlafaxine to 1,14mg Seems like all of this time I was in benzo withdrawal, because when I took it now in desperation to help it made me feel worse, tried reinstatement first 1mg, then 0,05mg both made me feel worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunaLex Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Been searching for a magnesium that is JUST magnesium. Everything around me is like "Magnesium forte!!! Mega magnesium!! 500~1000mg plus these other 5 vitamins" I thought I finally had one, got home and its got b6 as the only addition. Does anyone have a reliable international shipper, or perhaps trustworthy brand in Australia they can suggest so I can try a tiny bit? 2013-2016 Setraline, Desvenfalaxine, Lexapro & Fluoxetine. CTd. Aug 2016 RI- Lex 40mg, Zyban 150mg. Feb 2017 - Lex 20mg, 150mg Zyban. July 2017 10mg Lex Zyban 150mg. 2020-2021 CT Zyban. Lex taper to 5mg 1xday, then every othr day, then 1-2x a week. Early 2022- Lexapro 2.5mg 1-2 a week. 17/Mar Crash & CT RI Lex 0.25mg 16 Apr. | 0.35 23rd Apr. | 0.5 1 May. |0.75 17 May Temazepam 5mg 17|4, 10mg 19|4, 10mg 20|4 Valacyclovir 31|05,1|06 Other: Melatonin 1mg at night. Occasional single Panadol or Ibuprofen. 1 decaf 25|05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 23 hours ago, TentacleFinn said: Been searching for a magnesium that is JUST magnesium. 23 hours ago, TentacleFinn said: Does anyone have a reliable international shipper, or perhaps trustworthy brand in Australia they can suggest so I can try a tiny bit? After trying many different brands I discovered Plantforce magnesium powder (natural/neutral/unflavored). It's my favorite by far. You dissolve the powder in water which makes it super easy to control dosage, and no need to bother with swallowing capsules. I will PM you with links to webshops. 1996-2018 - misc. polypharmacy, incl. SSRIs, SNRIs, neuroleptics, lithium, benzos, stimulants, antihistamines, etc. (approx. 30+ drugs) 2012-2018 - 10mg lexapro/escitalopram (20mg?) Jan. 2018 - 10mg -> 5mg, then from 5mg -> 2.5mg, then 0mg --> July 2018 - 0mg 2017(?)-2020 - vyvanse/lisdexamfetamine 60-70mg 2020-2021 - 70mg down to 0mg --> July 2021 - 0mg March-April 2021 - vortioxetine 5-10mg (approx. 7 weeks total; CT) --> April 28th, 2021 - 0mg supplements: magnesium powder (dissolved in water) as needed throughout the day; 1 tsp fish oil w/ morning meal; 2mg melatonin August 1, 2022 - 1 mg melatonin Courage is fear that has said its prayers. - Karle Wilson Baker love and justice are not two. without inner change, there can be no outer change; without collective change, no change matters. - Rev. angel Kyodo williams Holding multiple truths. Knowing that everyone has their own accurate view of the way things are. - text on homemade banner at Afiya house I am not a medical professional; this is not medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 @TentacleFinn sorry, tried to PM you but received an error message that you can't receive messages? Not sure whether we're allowed to post links to outside commercial websites, guess we'll see. Here's what a quick search brought up on Australian webshops that sell Plantforce magnesium powder. Seems it's on sale right now at Mr. Vitamins. https://www.mrvitamins.com.au/products/twn-plantforce-magnesium?variant=39737286492314 https://www.thirdwavenutrition.com.au/product/plantforce-magnesium/ Btw I've seen this product available in sample-size little sachets. If you don't want to invest in a full-sized package right away, maybe it's possible to inquire whether they have samples? Just a thought. I've tried so many different kinds of magnesium -- capsule, tablet, powder, all different formulations -- and this one is my personal favorite, hands down. I so appreciate that I'm able to split my dose into custom quantities and sip the water as needed throughout the day/night. 1996-2018 - misc. polypharmacy, incl. SSRIs, SNRIs, neuroleptics, lithium, benzos, stimulants, antihistamines, etc. (approx. 30+ drugs) 2012-2018 - 10mg lexapro/escitalopram (20mg?) Jan. 2018 - 10mg -> 5mg, then from 5mg -> 2.5mg, then 0mg --> July 2018 - 0mg 2017(?)-2020 - vyvanse/lisdexamfetamine 60-70mg 2020-2021 - 70mg down to 0mg --> July 2021 - 0mg March-April 2021 - vortioxetine 5-10mg (approx. 7 weeks total; CT) --> April 28th, 2021 - 0mg supplements: magnesium powder (dissolved in water) as needed throughout the day; 1 tsp fish oil w/ morning meal; 2mg melatonin August 1, 2022 - 1 mg melatonin Courage is fear that has said its prayers. - Karle Wilson Baker love and justice are not two. without inner change, there can be no outer change; without collective change, no change matters. - Rev. angel Kyodo williams Holding multiple truths. Knowing that everyone has their own accurate view of the way things are. - text on homemade banner at Afiya house I am not a medical professional; this is not medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curiousnootropics Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 What form of Magnesium works best for you? What dose? Zoloft, November 2019. I worked up to 50 mg and stayed there until 1 year later. I tapered for 3 months, which should consider to be cold turkey. Tapering schedule: Month 1: 37.5 mg Month 2: 25 mg Month 3: 12.5 mg Month 4(Half the month): 6.75 mg Month 4(Other half): 0 mg December 9, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jojomama Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 I know this is an old thread but I believe I had a paradoxical reaction to magnesium glycinate. I was doing relatively well after reinstatement but last Night woke up to horrible panic attacks. The only thing different I did was take magnesium glycinate. 1998- pediatric ocd dx 40 mg Prozac; 2006- trial of anafranil, failed back to Prozac; 2007- trial of paxil, few months, weight gain, cold turkey no issues, back to Prozac: 2008- panic disorder dx- .25-.5 mg Xanax prn, but developed dependence until 2017, cold turkeyd for pregnancy; 2009- Prozac; 2010-2012- Zoloft, fatigue, weight gain switch to Effexor; 2012-2013- Effexor with bad constipation issues 2013- Prozac, cold turkey, no issues until 4 months later, destabilized, then back to Effexor; 2013-2016- Effexor and Dexedrin; 2017- switch to lexapro, tried to cold turkey, ended up with bad panic attacks. Put on 50 mg pristiq. Quit benzos, quit Dexedrine ct Now 2021- pristiq 50 mg with 50 mg ketamine troches x3 weekly, attempted taper in June cut by 50% in 3 days, nausea, panic Late June, second attempt with compound ex to 45.5 mg, did for two weeks, depression/crying/fatigue, reinstated last week of June to 50 mg. Early July- now suffering nausea, headache, food sensitivity, depression, dizzy feelings, panic. Gave up on taper thendec 2021- switched 50 mg Pristiq cross taper to 50 mg Zoloft april 2022- on 4/3/22 decreased Zoloft from 50 to 37.5 mg over the course of 8 days 4/11/22- having chills, nausea, body aches, and panic attack. Re-instated to 45 mg. Praying to stabilize and taper responsibly later. 4/12/22-reinstated completely back to 50 mg 5/4- residual muscle aches and night mares with panic at night continuing. Hope this gets better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasherr Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 What dose did You take? It is best to start with a low dose and work up slowly, I for example can't really take any dose in any form so it is possible Your reaction was due to magnesium, or it is also possible it was a withdrawal wave, if I were You I would try to eliminate magnesium and if You will feel better than You'll know the culprit. Fingers crossed for You Duloxetine 2016/17 - 30/60mg/30mg, c/t, light WD. Sertraline June 2019 50mg ADR Clorazepate June 2019 20-15-10mg for 3 weeks then sparsely until 2022, 2 times per month max and very low dose (5mg) Clorazepate Jan2022 10mg 5 days 2,5mg 2 days then off Venlafaxine June 2019 75mg ADR, 17,5mg, titrated to 37,5mg Venlafaxine Jan 2022 Covid, hard ADR on 37,5mg, reduced to 20mg ADR, tried ct, crash, Venlafaxine 22Jan22 reinstated 9,4mg, too low/ 01Feb22- 12mg/ 12Feb- 11,25mg/ 16Feb- 11mg/ 20Feb- 10,8mg/ 24Feb22-10,575mg/ 16Mar22- 10,46mg/ 26Mar22- 10,35mg/ 26Apr22- 10mg/ 01Oct- 9,9mg/ 13Nov- 9,7mg 01Jan24-7,5mg MAR24 Due to another sudden intolerance had to fast taper venlafaxine to 1,14mg Seems like all of this time I was in benzo withdrawal, because when I took it now in desperation to help it made me feel worse, tried reinstatement first 1mg, then 0,05mg both made me feel worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jojomama Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 It was 300 mg magnesium glycinate. I’ve taken the calm brand as mag citrate with no issues, I’ve also take 200 mg of magnesium glycinate the other night without issue. 1998- pediatric ocd dx 40 mg Prozac; 2006- trial of anafranil, failed back to Prozac; 2007- trial of paxil, few months, weight gain, cold turkey no issues, back to Prozac: 2008- panic disorder dx- .25-.5 mg Xanax prn, but developed dependence until 2017, cold turkeyd for pregnancy; 2009- Prozac; 2010-2012- Zoloft, fatigue, weight gain switch to Effexor; 2012-2013- Effexor with bad constipation issues 2013- Prozac, cold turkey, no issues until 4 months later, destabilized, then back to Effexor; 2013-2016- Effexor and Dexedrin; 2017- switch to lexapro, tried to cold turkey, ended up with bad panic attacks. Put on 50 mg pristiq. Quit benzos, quit Dexedrine ct Now 2021- pristiq 50 mg with 50 mg ketamine troches x3 weekly, attempted taper in June cut by 50% in 3 days, nausea, panic Late June, second attempt with compound ex to 45.5 mg, did for two weeks, depression/crying/fatigue, reinstated last week of June to 50 mg. Early July- now suffering nausea, headache, food sensitivity, depression, dizzy feelings, panic. Gave up on taper thendec 2021- switched 50 mg Pristiq cross taper to 50 mg Zoloft april 2022- on 4/3/22 decreased Zoloft from 50 to 37.5 mg over the course of 8 days 4/11/22- having chills, nausea, body aches, and panic attack. Re-instated to 45 mg. Praying to stabilize and taper responsibly later. 4/12/22-reinstated completely back to 50 mg 5/4- residual muscle aches and night mares with panic at night continuing. Hope this gets better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted June 1, 2022 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 1, 2022 I wanted to share my experience with magnesium glycinate vs. magnesium threonate. During the last several years of tapering I've had good experiences with magnesium glycinate to help with WD anxiety and insomnia--not a panacea but it helps. I'd read about magnesium threonate and decided to give it a try instead of the glycinate. For the two days I switched, I experienced a severe ramping up of daytime anxiety and nighttime insomnia. After I researched the comparative benefits of the two types, I stopped the threonate and returned to glycinate and all was well. Everyone is different. One person's experience. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg Taper is 91% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Onmyway Posted June 1, 2022 Moderator Share Posted June 1, 2022 59 minutes ago, Gridley said: I wanted to share my experience with magnesium glycinate vs. magnesium threonate. During the last several years of tapering I've had good experiences with magnesium glycinate to help with WD anxiety and insomnia--not a panacea but it helps. I'd read about magnesium threonate and decided to give it a try instead of the glycinate. For the two days I switched, I experienced a severe ramping up of daytime anxiety and nighttime insomnia. After I researched the comparative benefits of the two types, I stopped the threonate and returned to glycinate and all was well. Everyone is different. One person's experience. That's an interesting observation @Gridley, something similar happened to me as well. My ramping up of symptoms wasn't very extreme but it definitely felt different. I stopped using it as well. I have found magnesium citrate to be the most effective one for me. OMW "Nothing so small as a moment is insurmountable, and moments are all that we have. You have survived every trial and tribulation that life has thrown at you up until this very instant. When future troubles come—and they will come—a version of you will be born into that moment that can conquer them, too." - Kevin Koenig I am not a doctor and this should not be considered medical advice. You can use the information and recommendations provided in whatever way you want and all decisions on your treatment are yours. In the next few weeks I do not have a lot of capacity to respond to questions. If you need a quick answer pls tag or ask other moderators who may want to be tagged. Aug 2000 - July 2003 (ct, 4-6 wk wd) , citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn, wellbutrin for a few months, trazodone prn Dec 2004 - July 2018 citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn (rarely used) Aug 2018 - citalopram 40 mg (self titrated up) September 2018 - January 2019 tapered citalopram - 40/30/20/10/5 no issues until a week after reaching 0 Feb 2019 0.25 xanax - 0.5/day (3 weeks) over to klonopin 0.25 once a day to manage severe wd March 6, reinstated citalopram 2.5 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 mg for sleep 2-3 times a week Apr 1st citalopram 2.0 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 once a week (off by 4/14/19- no tapering) citalopram (liquid) 4/14/19 -1.8 mg, 5/8/19 - 1.6 mg, 7/27/19 -1.5 mg, 8/15/19 - 1.35, 2/21/21 - 1.1 (smaller drops in between), 6/20/21 - 1.03 mg, 8/7/21- 1.025, 8/11/21 - 1.02, 8/15/21 - 1.015, 9/3/21 - 0.925 (fingers crossed!), 10/8/21 - 0.9, 10/18/21 - 0.875, 12/31/21 - 0.85, 1/7/22 - 0.825, 1/14/22 - 0.8, 1/22/22 - 0.785, 8/18/22 - 0.59, 12/15/2022 - 0.48, 2/15/22 - 0.43, 25/07/23 - 0.25 (mistake), 6/08/23 - 0.33mg Supplements: magnesium citrate and bi-glycinate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanttofreemyself Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 I've been thinking about magnesium but i have concerns. Was wondering if it's okay to take if had you had kidney stones before because a lot of magnesium supplements have ingredients from seeds, nuts, and soy. Stuff I have to avoid because it may cause kidney stones again. - Late 2011/Early 2012? - Started celexa 10mg. - Sometime in 2012? - Due to doctors advice, jumped to 20mg. Not sure when but doctor suggested 40mg. Tried it for a bit, did not like it, felt flat and had low libido so doctor told me to go down to 30mg. - Started skipping 1 day or 2 days sometimes due to forgetting and hated being on drugs, felt it was a hassle. It became routine to skip one day and only take it when I felt withdrawal symptoms kick in like dizziness. Always took one 20mg pill and broke the second pill in half. - May 17 2022, finally talked to my doctor about tapering. Suggested I take 10 mg everyday. Tried taking only 10mg, started getting dizzy, took another half tablet, got horrible anxiety that night. Got scared, had to stop and reinstate back to 30mg that night. - May 18 2022 discovered and joined survivingantidepressants.org (woozy head and impaired balance lasted 1 week) - May 19 2022, began trying a reduction, (still skipping a day). Though had no scale so was inaccurately cutting my pills. No idea what dose I was taking, 25-27mg? - May 25 2022, bought a mg scale and started to better measure my dose. Tried 10% reduction, 27mg. (still skipping a day) - Ending of May was when I started having horrible anxiety - June 1 2022, finally started 13.5mg dose 8:15am, and began taking my dose everyday now - went to 13.7mg after a few weeks and still on it currently. Still taking my dose everyday. went up to 14 on 11/6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted June 3, 2022 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, Wanttofreemyself said: I've been thinking about magnesium but i have concerns. Was wondering if it's okay to take if had you had kidney stones before because a lot of magnesium supplements have ingredients from seeds, nuts, and soy. Stuff I have to avoid because it may cause kidney stones again. It would be best to check with your doctor/kidney specialist. SA assists members with tapering psychiatric drugs. The staff are not medical professionals but unpaid peers. We do not assist with general medical questions. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanttofreemyself Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Yes thank you, hopefully I can find out about it. I'm a little interested - Late 2011/Early 2012? - Started celexa 10mg. - Sometime in 2012? - Due to doctors advice, jumped to 20mg. Not sure when but doctor suggested 40mg. Tried it for a bit, did not like it, felt flat and had low libido so doctor told me to go down to 30mg. - Started skipping 1 day or 2 days sometimes due to forgetting and hated being on drugs, felt it was a hassle. It became routine to skip one day and only take it when I felt withdrawal symptoms kick in like dizziness. Always took one 20mg pill and broke the second pill in half. - May 17 2022, finally talked to my doctor about tapering. Suggested I take 10 mg everyday. Tried taking only 10mg, started getting dizzy, took another half tablet, got horrible anxiety that night. Got scared, had to stop and reinstate back to 30mg that night. - May 18 2022 discovered and joined survivingantidepressants.org (woozy head and impaired balance lasted 1 week) - May 19 2022, began trying a reduction, (still skipping a day). Though had no scale so was inaccurately cutting my pills. No idea what dose I was taking, 25-27mg? - May 25 2022, bought a mg scale and started to better measure my dose. Tried 10% reduction, 27mg. (still skipping a day) - Ending of May was when I started having horrible anxiety - June 1 2022, finally started 13.5mg dose 8:15am, and began taking my dose everyday now - went to 13.7mg after a few weeks and still on it currently. Still taking my dose everyday. went up to 14 on 11/6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 No stupid questions, right? I've been drinking a lot more water recently due to the heat. I haven't increased my usual daily magnesium dose, but should I? Does how much water I drink potentially change how much magnesium my body retains/uses/needs? I'm experimenting with slight, gradual increases and am guessing I'll know when it's too much if/when I pass the diarrhea threshold. Just curious about the theory behind it, if anyone knows. 1996-2018 - misc. polypharmacy, incl. SSRIs, SNRIs, neuroleptics, lithium, benzos, stimulants, antihistamines, etc. (approx. 30+ drugs) 2012-2018 - 10mg lexapro/escitalopram (20mg?) Jan. 2018 - 10mg -> 5mg, then from 5mg -> 2.5mg, then 0mg --> July 2018 - 0mg 2017(?)-2020 - vyvanse/lisdexamfetamine 60-70mg 2020-2021 - 70mg down to 0mg --> July 2021 - 0mg March-April 2021 - vortioxetine 5-10mg (approx. 7 weeks total; CT) --> April 28th, 2021 - 0mg supplements: magnesium powder (dissolved in water) as needed throughout the day; 1 tsp fish oil w/ morning meal; 2mg melatonin August 1, 2022 - 1 mg melatonin Courage is fear that has said its prayers. - Karle Wilson Baker love and justice are not two. without inner change, there can be no outer change; without collective change, no change matters. - Rev. angel Kyodo williams Holding multiple truths. Knowing that everyone has their own accurate view of the way things are. - text on homemade banner at Afiya house I am not a medical professional; this is not medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanttofreemyself Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 @Ariel do you feel magnesium helps you? I've been reading more on supplements and it's mixed results - Late 2011/Early 2012? - Started celexa 10mg. - Sometime in 2012? - Due to doctors advice, jumped to 20mg. Not sure when but doctor suggested 40mg. Tried it for a bit, did not like it, felt flat and had low libido so doctor told me to go down to 30mg. - Started skipping 1 day or 2 days sometimes due to forgetting and hated being on drugs, felt it was a hassle. It became routine to skip one day and only take it when I felt withdrawal symptoms kick in like dizziness. Always took one 20mg pill and broke the second pill in half. - May 17 2022, finally talked to my doctor about tapering. Suggested I take 10 mg everyday. Tried taking only 10mg, started getting dizzy, took another half tablet, got horrible anxiety that night. Got scared, had to stop and reinstate back to 30mg that night. - May 18 2022 discovered and joined survivingantidepressants.org (woozy head and impaired balance lasted 1 week) - May 19 2022, began trying a reduction, (still skipping a day). Though had no scale so was inaccurately cutting my pills. No idea what dose I was taking, 25-27mg? - May 25 2022, bought a mg scale and started to better measure my dose. Tried 10% reduction, 27mg. (still skipping a day) - Ending of May was when I started having horrible anxiety - June 1 2022, finally started 13.5mg dose 8:15am, and began taking my dose everyday now - went to 13.7mg after a few weeks and still on it currently. Still taking my dose everyday. went up to 14 on 11/6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 @Wanttofreemyself Yes I find it helpful. It's the only supplement I use regularly in WD with no undesired side effects. 1996-2018 - misc. polypharmacy, incl. SSRIs, SNRIs, neuroleptics, lithium, benzos, stimulants, antihistamines, etc. (approx. 30+ drugs) 2012-2018 - 10mg lexapro/escitalopram (20mg?) Jan. 2018 - 10mg -> 5mg, then from 5mg -> 2.5mg, then 0mg --> July 2018 - 0mg 2017(?)-2020 - vyvanse/lisdexamfetamine 60-70mg 2020-2021 - 70mg down to 0mg --> July 2021 - 0mg March-April 2021 - vortioxetine 5-10mg (approx. 7 weeks total; CT) --> April 28th, 2021 - 0mg supplements: magnesium powder (dissolved in water) as needed throughout the day; 1 tsp fish oil w/ morning meal; 2mg melatonin August 1, 2022 - 1 mg melatonin Courage is fear that has said its prayers. - Karle Wilson Baker love and justice are not two. without inner change, there can be no outer change; without collective change, no change matters. - Rev. angel Kyodo williams Holding multiple truths. Knowing that everyone has their own accurate view of the way things are. - text on homemade banner at Afiya house I am not a medical professional; this is not medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanttofreemyself Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 @Ariel which one do you take? I'm seeing different types. I'm still on my antidepressant and tapering and the on and anxiety with depressive mood is annoying so not sure if I should even try supplements - Late 2011/Early 2012? - Started celexa 10mg. - Sometime in 2012? - Due to doctors advice, jumped to 20mg. Not sure when but doctor suggested 40mg. Tried it for a bit, did not like it, felt flat and had low libido so doctor told me to go down to 30mg. - Started skipping 1 day or 2 days sometimes due to forgetting and hated being on drugs, felt it was a hassle. It became routine to skip one day and only take it when I felt withdrawal symptoms kick in like dizziness. Always took one 20mg pill and broke the second pill in half. - May 17 2022, finally talked to my doctor about tapering. Suggested I take 10 mg everyday. Tried taking only 10mg, started getting dizzy, took another half tablet, got horrible anxiety that night. Got scared, had to stop and reinstate back to 30mg that night. - May 18 2022 discovered and joined survivingantidepressants.org (woozy head and impaired balance lasted 1 week) - May 19 2022, began trying a reduction, (still skipping a day). Though had no scale so was inaccurately cutting my pills. No idea what dose I was taking, 25-27mg? - May 25 2022, bought a mg scale and started to better measure my dose. Tried 10% reduction, 27mg. (still skipping a day) - Ending of May was when I started having horrible anxiety - June 1 2022, finally started 13.5mg dose 8:15am, and began taking my dose everyday now - went to 13.7mg after a few weeks and still on it currently. Still taking my dose everyday. went up to 14 on 11/6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 @Wanttofreemyself I suggest you read through this topic from the beginning. There are many informative comments. I've shared about which kind of magnesium I take in an earlier post. 1996-2018 - misc. polypharmacy, incl. SSRIs, SNRIs, neuroleptics, lithium, benzos, stimulants, antihistamines, etc. (approx. 30+ drugs) 2012-2018 - 10mg lexapro/escitalopram (20mg?) Jan. 2018 - 10mg -> 5mg, then from 5mg -> 2.5mg, then 0mg --> July 2018 - 0mg 2017(?)-2020 - vyvanse/lisdexamfetamine 60-70mg 2020-2021 - 70mg down to 0mg --> July 2021 - 0mg March-April 2021 - vortioxetine 5-10mg (approx. 7 weeks total; CT) --> April 28th, 2021 - 0mg supplements: magnesium powder (dissolved in water) as needed throughout the day; 1 tsp fish oil w/ morning meal; 2mg melatonin August 1, 2022 - 1 mg melatonin Courage is fear that has said its prayers. - Karle Wilson Baker love and justice are not two. without inner change, there can be no outer change; without collective change, no change matters. - Rev. angel Kyodo williams Holding multiple truths. Knowing that everyone has their own accurate view of the way things are. - text on homemade banner at Afiya house I am not a medical professional; this is not medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanttofreemyself Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 @Ariel okay it's interesting, thank you - Late 2011/Early 2012? - Started celexa 10mg. - Sometime in 2012? - Due to doctors advice, jumped to 20mg. Not sure when but doctor suggested 40mg. Tried it for a bit, did not like it, felt flat and had low libido so doctor told me to go down to 30mg. - Started skipping 1 day or 2 days sometimes due to forgetting and hated being on drugs, felt it was a hassle. It became routine to skip one day and only take it when I felt withdrawal symptoms kick in like dizziness. Always took one 20mg pill and broke the second pill in half. - May 17 2022, finally talked to my doctor about tapering. Suggested I take 10 mg everyday. Tried taking only 10mg, started getting dizzy, took another half tablet, got horrible anxiety that night. Got scared, had to stop and reinstate back to 30mg that night. - May 18 2022 discovered and joined survivingantidepressants.org (woozy head and impaired balance lasted 1 week) - May 19 2022, began trying a reduction, (still skipping a day). Though had no scale so was inaccurately cutting my pills. No idea what dose I was taking, 25-27mg? - May 25 2022, bought a mg scale and started to better measure my dose. Tried 10% reduction, 27mg. (still skipping a day) - Ending of May was when I started having horrible anxiety - June 1 2022, finally started 13.5mg dose 8:15am, and began taking my dose everyday now - went to 13.7mg after a few weeks and still on it currently. Still taking my dose everyday. went up to 14 on 11/6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantini Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Hi @Ariel! How are tou? I hope you're well! Do you know if magnesium can help with akathisia? Thanks 2012 - 2022: 10 years on Seroquel starting at 25mg and working up to 100mg (for insonia) aug 2021 - dez 2021: decrease my dose by 50% every month (100 mg, 50 mg, 25 mg, 12,5 mg, 0 mg) fev 2021: start 100 mg of Lyrica (for anxiety and it gives me akathisia) mar 2022: decrease my dose by 50% (akathisia) apr 2022: reinstart 0.5 mg Seroquel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Hi @Fantini I'm sorry you've been dealing with akathisia. That can be a very challenging symptom. I hope it gets better for you soon. I don't know whether magnesium helps directly with akathisia. Have you tried reading this topic from the beginning? There are many comments from other members, maybe you'll come across something helpful. I feel like magnesium has an overall calming effect on my nervous system. It also helps my digestion and makes menstrual symptoms milder. Magnesium is the only supplement I've found that I can take throughout WD with no undesired effects. I suppose it's not impossible that it could indirectly help akathisia by facilitating general soothing and healing of the nervous system. I don't know, I'm just guessing. The way I see it, everything's connected. So if one takes a holistic approach, anything that can support one aspect is also contributing to the general good (as long as it's not causing new and adverse side effects). Sending wishes of peace and relief <3 1996-2018 - misc. polypharmacy, incl. SSRIs, SNRIs, neuroleptics, lithium, benzos, stimulants, antihistamines, etc. (approx. 30+ drugs) 2012-2018 - 10mg lexapro/escitalopram (20mg?) Jan. 2018 - 10mg -> 5mg, then from 5mg -> 2.5mg, then 0mg --> July 2018 - 0mg 2017(?)-2020 - vyvanse/lisdexamfetamine 60-70mg 2020-2021 - 70mg down to 0mg --> July 2021 - 0mg March-April 2021 - vortioxetine 5-10mg (approx. 7 weeks total; CT) --> April 28th, 2021 - 0mg supplements: magnesium powder (dissolved in water) as needed throughout the day; 1 tsp fish oil w/ morning meal; 2mg melatonin August 1, 2022 - 1 mg melatonin Courage is fear that has said its prayers. - Karle Wilson Baker love and justice are not two. without inner change, there can be no outer change; without collective change, no change matters. - Rev. angel Kyodo williams Holding multiple truths. Knowing that everyone has their own accurate view of the way things are. - text on homemade banner at Afiya house I am not a medical professional; this is not medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry4949 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Having read through this thread I’m looking to get some magnesium glycinate from a good source I have read it should contain zinc I live in the uk but am struggling to find a descent brand as most reviews I see people say to avoid because of added fillers is there anyone that can recommend a really good brand I’m hoping to try it to see if it helps me with sleep and helps with the dreaded cortisol spikes which seem to be happening every 10 minutes my doctor told me to take a anti histamine but I’m not going down that road thanks 2001 to jan 2015 Effexor 150 mg jan 2015 15 mg mirtazapine 20 mg quetiapine feb 2015 quetiapine stopped feb 2015 30 mg of citalopram added feb 2015 mirtazapine increased to 30 mg july 2015 citalopram stopped sept 2015 200mg of pregabalin jan 2017 mirtazapine stopped jan 2017 20 mg fluoxetine march 2017 all meds stopped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 @Terry4949 1 hour ago, Terry4949 said: Having read through this thread I’m looking to get some magnesium glycinate from a good source I have read it should contain zinc Remember that SA recommends only making one change at a time. This means that if you are going to introduce a supplement, e.g. magnesium, it should be magnesium only, not mixed with anything else. Otherwise, if you have a reaction, positive or negative, how will you know whether it's the magnesium or the zinc? In addition, as you have said yourself in previous posts, your system is very sensitive. Best to keep it simple, slow, and stable. 1 hour ago, Terry4949 said: is there anyone that can recommend a really good brand I use Plantforce Ionic Magnesium Neutral: https://www.vitalabo.co.uk/third-wave-nutrition/plantforce-ionic-magnesium-neutral It's a magnesium powder that I mix with water and sip morning and evening, or throughout the day as needed. I have tried all different kinds and this is the one that works best for me personally. I like that it's very easy to control the dose, I don't have to swallow pills, and I avoid any fillers and gel-caps that could irritate my system. 1996-2018 - misc. polypharmacy, incl. SSRIs, SNRIs, neuroleptics, lithium, benzos, stimulants, antihistamines, etc. (approx. 30+ drugs) 2012-2018 - 10mg lexapro/escitalopram (20mg?) Jan. 2018 - 10mg -> 5mg, then from 5mg -> 2.5mg, then 0mg --> July 2018 - 0mg 2017(?)-2020 - vyvanse/lisdexamfetamine 60-70mg 2020-2021 - 70mg down to 0mg --> July 2021 - 0mg March-April 2021 - vortioxetine 5-10mg (approx. 7 weeks total; CT) --> April 28th, 2021 - 0mg supplements: magnesium powder (dissolved in water) as needed throughout the day; 1 tsp fish oil w/ morning meal; 2mg melatonin August 1, 2022 - 1 mg melatonin Courage is fear that has said its prayers. - Karle Wilson Baker love and justice are not two. without inner change, there can be no outer change; without collective change, no change matters. - Rev. angel Kyodo williams Holding multiple truths. Knowing that everyone has their own accurate view of the way things are. - text on homemade banner at Afiya house I am not a medical professional; this is not medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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