New book "Génération zombie : enquête sur le scandale des antidépresseurs"

[UnfoldingSky]

I haven't read the full thread so maybe this is here, though I doubt it...Anyone read this tome?

 

Drug-Induced Dysfunction In Psychiatry by Matcheri S. Keshavan

 

Seems it's probably a textbook and shockingly there aren't any reviews on Amazon...

 

It's from the nineties, so it would be interesting to know what they knew about in the early days of SSRIs and were teaching in schools.

[UnfoldingSky]

I just realized you can preview parts of it, and it doesn't seem like they cover SSRIs/SNRIs.  However there are whole passages on akathisia, TD, drug-induced psychosis, sexual dysfunction, etc... and other drug effects from other classes of drugs, early ADs, lithium, antipsychotics, benzos...So it could prove useful to anyone who wants to learn about these other topics.

[ChessieCat]

For people who aren't able to either buy or borrow these books, some of the authors have YouTube videos which contain similar information.

[nz11]

On ‎3‎/‎18‎/‎2017 at 10:25 PM, Cipramillion said:

I highly recommend this book, The Sedated Society: The Causes and Harms of our Psychiatric Drug Epidemic

 

https://www.amazon.com/Sedated-Society-Causes-Psychiatric-Epidemic/dp/3319449109

 

Can also be bought as an e-book from Springer. 

 

Cipramiilion any choice quotes from the book you want to share.

I think I might go to the library to see if they have this book.

 

[nz11]

On ‎7‎/‎17‎/‎2016 at 2:38 PM, nz11 said:

Anyone read the new book called 'The pill that steals lives' .?

https://www.amazon.com/Pill-That-Steals-Lives-Antidepressants/dp/1786061333

 

It sounds a bit scary to me.

 

nz11

I'm now on page 96 she writes well.

I'm posting here to keep myself accountable to finish this in the next month! eek 

 

page 92 

"They take me off the drugs...........in the middle of the night I ring my brother David. I'm screaming in agony. He tries to calm me down but neither  he nor I understand that now my mind and body are going through indescribable agony from going CT ....."

Can anyone relate to this? I know I sure can. I didn't ring my brother I rang my father and it was 1am! 

[Caspur]

New book due to be released in May 2019...

“Drug Trial Secrets: How Drug Companies and Medical Experts Dupe You and Your Doctor”

Written by Dr. David Healy, Julia Wood, Dee Mangin, and Joanna Le Noury.

“Drug Trial Secrets tells the story of the most famous clinical drug trial of all time — the only trial to lead to a fraud charge, as well as the biggest drug company fine in history.

GlaxoSmithKline paid for Study 329, the clinical trial of their antidepressant Paxil (paroxetine) in the 1990s, and the resulting research was published in the Journal of the American Association of Child Adolescent Psychiatry. The article claimed the drug was effective and safe — even though GSK knew from the research that Paxil didn't work for children and was harmful. In 2004, New York State charged the company with fraud because of this publication. It wouldn't be until 2012 when the Department of Justice also charged GSK with fraud and failure to report safety data that GSK settled and paid a giant $3 billion fine.

But perhaps the most important result was that independent researchers were given access to the full, original records of the clinical trial and relating documents. David Healy and his co-authors spent thousands of hours re-analyzing the raw data, and in this book they describe exactly how GSK and the medical professionals who claimed authorship of the journal article manipulated the data to produce the false result they wanted. They also document the battle they finally won to get the British Medical Journal to publish a re-write of the original study — thirteen years later!

A gripping true-crime narrative, Drug Trial Secrets will leave readers with many questions about the reliability of drug company trials and research by medical professionals funded by drug companies.

About the Author
JULIE WOOD was an accountant until one of her sons committed suicide on an SSRI . With her husband, Peter, she then helped set up RxISK.org and created the Study329.org website. She lives in Toronto, Ontario.

DEE MANGIN is the David Braley and Nancy Gordon Chair of Family Medicine at McMaster University and creator of TaperMD, an online tool to assist patients having a medication review with their doctors. She lives in Dundas, Ontario.

DAVID HEALY is an internationally respected psychiatrist, psychopharmacologist and author. Professor of psychiatry at Bangor University, Healy is a leading chronicler of psychotropic drugs and their controversies. He lives in Beaumaris, Wales.

JOANNA LE NOURY is a Senior Research Fellow at Bangor University, and the first author on the Restored Study 329. She lives in Llanfairfechan, Wales.”

https://www.amazon.com/…/1…/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_EzyzBb8ACACC4

[neroli]

Excellent.  I'm very happy that Dee Mangin is involved, too.  She's a New Zealander and having her name on the book makes it easier for me to validate my experience to my GP who knows of her.  

 

Thank you for posting, Caspur.

 

Wishing you well wherever you are in your recover/reduction process.

 

Neroli

[bubbles]

 I will look forward to reading that.

[Martina23]

It is good that they did something but I think it would be better if they worked on some actual clinical trials and discovered there fraud. Because in this case the battle has been already won in the past when GSK got fine and I would like to learn something about the other trials - these not discovered - because I am sure most of them will be manipulated also.

[Nevertoolate]

 https://nypost.com/2016/04/05/are-antidepressants-making-women-sicker/

An excerpt....All you have to do is spend a few minutes on SurvivingAntidepressants.org, BeyondMeds.com, or SSRIstories.org to appreciate that we have created a monster. Millions of men, women and children the world over are suffering side effects, including complicated withdrawal routinely dismissed by their prescribing clinicians. Contrary to what Big Pharma would have you believe, weaning off antidepressants is extremely difficult, so choosing to take them could be signing up for a lifetime of medication use that creates and sustains abnormal states in the brain and entire nervous system. As a clinician who once believed in these medications, I have been humbled by what they are capable of. In fact, even when I have tapered women off of Celexa at extremely low increments of .001mg a month, it can be hard to imagine another class of substances on Earth so potentially complicated to discontinue.

 

I think I need to stop reading these articles. 

I'm genuinely worried and scared I'll never recover completely from the long term effects of being on these for 30 odd years. 

I don't remember ever feeling this way before after coming off them the few other times I tried.

 

[ShiningLight]

The Myth of Mental Illness by Thomas Szasz

[Onmyway]

Recently I have read two books about anti-depressants and I have been having a hard time with my anger. Not anger so much about what I have been through (there is no use in that as what's done is done) but anger over what is still being inflicted on millions of people including kids. I am also angry at myself that I didn't read these books when they came out. I am a researcher exactly in this field and I can't believe I put my head in the sand for this long. At some point in my life I interviewed Joseph Biederman, the guy who has been paid millions of dollars by pharma and created the diagnostic "tests" for AHDH in children and popularized bipolar disgnosis in children. He talked to me about innovation in healthcare! This was way before he was discredited for all his conflicts of interest. I can't believe I ate it all up! 

 

I am glad that I know what I know now. It helps quell my fear that anxiety (what got me onto SSRIs) is not a permanent feature of my brain due to some imalance of chemicals and can hopefully be managed. At least I hope it has not become permanent after the SSRIs. 

 

I feel like everyone should read these books - Anatomy of an Epidemic by Robert Whitaker (the Mad in America founder) and The Emperor's New Drugs by Irving Kirsch. I am wondering if it would be useful to summarize these books for those of us who can't read as much in wd. I am only proposing this because I still see in some discussions people who believe the official line of the chemical imbalance. Heck, I believed it until a month or two ago. 

 

 

 

 

[ChessieCat]

On 6/28/2019 at 7:04 AM, Onmyway said:

I am wondering if it would be useful to summarize these books for those of us who can't read as much in wd.

 

There are many videos online.

 

Video:  Irving Kirsch:  Emperor's New Drugs:  Antidepressants and the Placebo Effect (1 hour 20 minutes)

 

Video:  Robert Whitaker:  Our Psychiatric Drug Epidemic (50 minutes)

 

Video:  Do Psychiatric Medications Fix "Chemical Imbalances" in the Brain
 

Video:  Coming off Psych Drugs:  A Meeting of the Minds (1 hour 15 minutes)
 

Interview:  Confessions of an Rx Drug Pusher (51 minutes Gwen Olsen - ex pharmaceutical representative)
 

Video:  Ex-Big Pharma Rep:  We’re Trained To Misinform -The Drugs ARE Dangerous (6 minute video)
 

Video:  Ex-Big Pharma Rep:  Manipulating Doctors to Sell More Drugs (10 minute video)
 

Website:  The Council for Evidence-Based Psychiatry

                 Videos:  Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from? (1 minute)

                                How are psychiatric diagnoses made?  (1 minute 30 seconds)

                                Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes? (2 minutes)

                                Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects? (1 minute)

                                Do antidepressants work? (2 minutes)                 
 

Video:  Dr James Davies:  The Origins of the DSM (35 minutes)
 

Video:  Prof Peter Gotzsche:  Why Few Patients Benefit and Many are Harmed (50 minutes)
 

Video:  Interview with Prof Peter Gotzsche "Deadly Medicines and Organized Crime: How Big Pharma has Corrupted Healthcare" (16 minutes)
 

Video:  The DSM:  Psychiatry's Deadliest Scam (1 hour 20 minutes)
 

Video:  Part 1 - Pharmaceutical Drugs and the Medical Industry (1 hour 20 minutes)
Video:  Part 2 - Pharmaceutical Drugs and the Medical Industry (1 hour 20 minutes)
 

Video:  There Are No Rules About Psychiatric Diagnosis - And That Must End! (1 hour 10 minutes)
 

Video:  Simple Truths About Psychiatry - Series of 10 by Dr Peter Breggin
 

 

Edited September 6, 2022 by ChessieCat
updated link

[btdt]

Grace E Jackson she has the goods.. the proof and has a book or two... 

 

https://www.amazon.ca/Drug-Induced-Dementia-MD-Grace-Jackson/dp/1438972318

 

and because for years I only read books about antidepressant recovery ect cause I would have no life without recovery.... 

this little gem 

https://www.amazon.ca/Better-Living-Pursuit-Happiness-Prozac/dp/014026521X

 

in this book is described a trial on ADs on medical staff.... one pill I think with a glass of orange juice... sweet little test in its simplicity that may be worth as much as all those tainted drug trials...

 

only after one person started talking about odd effects did other join in saying it must be a side effect I did not think that possible.... well guess what folks neither did we.... the drugs that change things all people thought were impossible to change with a drug... in a nutshell... 

 

I know I am signing to the choir and gave up trying to convince anyone else ages ago... been gone a long time think i will be gone a long time again 

wishing you all peace 

 

[anacleta]

 

New book "Génération zombie : enquête sur le scandale des antidépresseurs"

 

Ariane Denoyel is a freelance journalist based in Grenoble, Isère, and the author of an investigation which will be published in mid-April by Fayard, "Génération zombie : enquête sur le scandale des antidépresseurs". Interview.

France Bleu Isère - The title of the book "Génération Zombie" is very evocative and very strong. You didn't choose the word "zombie" at random?

Ariane Denoyel - No, I assume it. I know it can be almost shocking, but that's how the victims of the most serious effects describe themselves. So I have really taken their words.

In fact, I think it was the book dedicated to a witness of your investigation who described this phenomenon to you: that of being almost absent from one's own body...

Exactly, David, who ended his life at the age of 23, in January 2020.

Not everyone who takes antidepressants is a zombie. I say this because it is perhaps important to remember that this is not a charge against all those who take antidepressants. In your book, your aim is not to make them feel guilty?

Oh no, certainly not. I think that the people who end up with these serious side effects - it's difficult to say what proportion of patients this represents - are rather victims. They are victims of widespread medical misinformation. In fact, the industry has created a bubble of false information. So really, we and the doctors are living in a world of medical fake news. Even doctors are not necessarily very well informed.

What made you want to take an interest in this subject? It is a sensitive subject and it is also taboo. Is it because you were at one point in your life on Prozac?

Yes, I was on Prozac and other antidepressants too. I remember very clearly a really unpleasant feeling of being disconnected. Well, it's very hard to describe. After several years, when I came across the work of a professor from Elis, it made me realize that it wasn't just me who reacted badly and for whom it wasn't effective at all. So it's rather that these are molecules which are not very effective and which have many undesirable effects.

The difficulty is that some people who take them regularly, if they stopped taking them from one day to the next, they would be even worse.

Yes, it's very dangerous to stop suddenly. You mustn't do it. All the great professors I have consulted insist on the fact that it is absolutely necessary to be well accompanied because it is very difficult to withdraw. Some people who have taken hard drugs say that it can be more difficult to withdraw from these antidepressants than from heroin or cocaine.

The current climate is obviously of concern to the government, which is also looking into the mental health of the French. There will be a conference on this subject next summer. Three confinements in one year, restrictions on freedom, loss of jobs, no prospects and, inevitably, more people asking their doctors for medication.

Yes, but drugs are not the only solution I think. And in any case, even if they decide to take them, I think it is very important that they are aware of the true benefit-risk ratio of these molecules. There has to be transparency. We all need transparency.

So you're saying that doctors should be trained, that they are perhaps being taken in by the laboratories, that doctors in good faith are prescribing these pills?

Absolutely. I don't blame doctors for prescribing them because the laboratories have considerable marketing power. They are perfectly able to direct the information from the beginning, from the clinical trials to the scientific press. So no, we can't blame doctors for being victims of this information bubble.

Ariane Denoyelle, you teach at the Grenoble and Échirolles School of Journalism (EJDG). Do you notice that students, young people in the prime of their lives, are not doing well because they have been deprived of their social life for several months. Have you seen this?

Yes, of course. I've seen that, it's extremely strong, the students are not doing well. Already, before the confinement, I think that the precariousness was very important among the students. Depression is also a consequence of social violence, when you are a precarious student, life is really very difficult, you have to combine a small job with studies, etc. So it was already hard. So it was already hard. But with the pandemic, it has become really hard.

The risk is that some students will become zombies if they use these drugs, is that what you're telling them?

I say that you really have to think about taking them. If you want to take these molecules, if you are considering it, you have to discuss it with your doctor. You have to get some information from several sources to get a more accurate picture of the benefits and risks.

In your book, there is also a point that you put forward. You talk about suicidal tendencies and the deep depression of some people, but there are also murderous impulses when you take drugs like that. You tell us that most of the killers in the United States were on psychotropic drugs.

This is what studies say when we look at trials. For example, that of James Eagan Holmes, the Aurora killer, it is very clear, there would not have been these murders if he had not been on medication. These studies give all sorts of examples and they go so far as to say that nine out of ten mass murderers in the United States are on psychotropic drugs.
 

• "Génération zombie : enquête sur le scandale des antidépresseurs", published by Fayard on 14/04/21, 306 pages, 20 euros.
  https://www.leslibraires.fr/livre/18463767-generation-zombie-enquete-sur-le-scandale-des--ariane-denoyel-fayard

This is an automatic translation from French; here is the original interview with video: https://www.francebleu.fr/infos/sante-sciences/generation-zombie-enquete-sur-le-scandale-des-antidepresseurs-publie-aux-editions-fayard-1618476046

Edited September 5, 2022 by Altostrata
added title

[Cgomg]

I just wanted to say there’s a new book coming out on December 30th. Called “Antidepressed “.

 

it was recommended to me by a fellow sufferer of Antidepressant medication.

 

I have no affiliation to the author or book but it looks really interesting and highlights withdrawal, and also the inconsistency of generic drug formulations causing even more problems for people .

[ChessieCat]

Link to Amazon (no monetary gain for me)

 

Antidepressed: A Breakthrough Examination of Epidemic Antidepressant Harm and Dependence

 

by Beverley Thomson

 

Summary on Amazon:

 

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A COMPREHENSIVE WAKE-UP CALL FOR PATIENTS AND PROFESSIONALS

Antidepressed breaks down the growing issue of antidepressant use, harm and dependence—how we got to this point, what’s happening worldwide every single day, and most importantly, where we go from here.

Providing information that both patients and mental health professionals desperately need, Antidepressed exposes the holes in mental health systems and highlights the desperate need for reform.

Featuring compelling accounts from real people whose lives have been irrevocably harmed by prescription antidepressants, Antidepressed provides proof that there is no such thing as a magic pill—and that pretending otherwise risks the lives and well-being of those who need help the most.

 

 

 

About Beverley Thomson

 

From https://www.bookdepository.com/Antidepressed-Beverley-Thomson/9781578269235

 

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Beverley Thomson is a writer, researcher and speaker with a focus on psychiatric medication including antidepressants, benzodiazepines and ADHD drugs; their history, how the drugs work, adverse effects, dependence, withdrawal and development of patient support services. Her aim is to help inform and empower the patient to make informed choices about medication. She has a particular interest in withdrawal management and prescription drug-induced suicide. In the past 10 years, she has worked with organizations such as the British Medical Association, the Scottish Government (as part of a working group addressing the issue of prescribed drug harm and dependence in Scotland), the UK Council for Evidence-Based Psychiatry (writing evidence-based summaries to be used by professionals and the general public), and the UK All Party Parliamentary Group for Prescribed Drug Dependence. She has contributed to articles in the British Medical Journal (BMJ) and mainstream media.

 

 

[Dreamer0]

This looks so interesting, I’m excited to read! Thank you for sharing

[tiredtess]

Book Review: ‘Evidence-biased Antidepressant Prescription’ by Michael P. Hengartner

Not sure if anyone has heard of this 

[Altostrata]

Any recommendations for new controversial books about psychiatry and treatment?