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My story starts with the delivery of my lovely daughter in 2011. I had a wonderful pregnancy and expected nothing but a perfect delivery... but that is where my story of perfection ended. I had a very difficult delivery and extremely difficult recovery. 6 weeks of pain, crying and not bonding with my child left me beaten down, depressed and seeking an answer to why I wasn't in new parent bliss like everyone else who had just had a baby. I had an ok OB, but an amazing spouse that suggested I had postpartum depression and needed some help to get me out of this awful fog. I found a post-partum support group started on 25mg of Zoloft and began to feel like myself again. I started dealing with the fact that not only did I have ppd, but I likely also had some post traumatic stress from my delivery. Life was getting easier slowly but surely.

 

I went back to work in October of 2011 thinking I was better and could go back to life as usual. However I quickly began to struggle with feelings of being overwhelmed and not good enough. I felt like a failure and didn't know why. No amount of talking would help. I was also still breastfeeding so my hormones were all off to add it. I had it in my mind that I just HAD to breastfeed for 1 year. I was able to accomplish that but it definitely came at a mental price.

 

In December of 2011 I was sick of being on the meds and since I felt good did what most people do the first time and taper off WAY too fast. I got my taper advice from my doctor, who really didn't know anything about tapering, and started the wean down. As soon as I got off them I went back on them due to the withdrawal symptoms. Dizziness, emotional outbursts, feeling foggy, etc.... so my dr suggested I just wasn't ready to go off them. Never once did he mention that it might have been withdrawal symptoms. Started back on 25mg Zoloft and felt better instantly.

 

In March of 2012 I thought that maybe I was ready now to go off of the meds and started to wean down again just like I had before thinking I would have different results. So, so wrong.... with some added work stress I spiraled out of control and actually got pulled out of work on disability to deal with all this mess. My Dr. upped my dose to 50 mg of Zoloft but I was still experiencing a lot of anxiety so he changed my meds to 10 mg of Lexapro. I stopped the Zoloft one day and started the Lexapro the next. I got into some more counseling and stopped breastfeeding. For the first time since my daughter was born I have started to feel like myself again.

 

I do think that the Lexapro has created a dulled down version of prior myself which I in fact kinda like. I am naturally a type A person with high expectations of myself and on AD's I just let things slide a lot more. I am still an active and productive individual, but just with a lot less emotional ups and downs.

 

My husband and I would like to have a second child so I have decided that I need to get off the Lexapro in order to do so. I have never had depression before in my life and think that what I went through was due to the birth of my daughter and the circumstances surrounding it. I am now however terrified to wean down off of Lexapro due to the reaction I had from the two other wean downs I tried previously with the Zoloft. I am super thankful that I found this site to educate me a little bit on what a very slow wean down would look like! I have an appt with my Dr. tomorrow and feel like I can have a discussion about what I want my wean down to look like and see how he can support me in that. I am going to try the 10% reduction and take it day by day. It is more important for me to get off the meds slowly and safely than to rush it just to get pregnant.

 

I have read how to wean down from Lexapro on this site, but any advice on anything else I should be doing, like supplements, would be greatly appreciated. Also any questions you think I should ask my doc would be great too.

 

Thanks for the support!

For the management of Postpartum Depression & Anxiety:

 

Zoloft 25mg - 6/2011 - 4/2012

Tried to taper 12/2011 and went back on 25mg due to withdrawl symptoms

Tried to taper again 3/2012 - 4/2012 and had bad withdrawl symptons & rebounded terribly

Zoloft 50mg - 5/2012

Lexapro 10mg - 6/2012 to Present

9/17/12 - Dropped to 9mg

9/28/12 - Dropped to 8mg

10/12/12 - Dropped to 7mg

10/26/12 - Dropped to 6mg

11/2/12 - Dropped to 5mg

11/14/12 - Dropped to 4mg

11/26/12 - Dropped to 3mg

12/5/12 - Dropped to 2.5mg

12/14/12 - Dropped to 2mg

12/19/12 - Dropped to 1.5mg

12/23/12 - Dropped to 1mg

12/27/12 - Dropped to 0.5mg

1/1/13 - Off Lexapro!!!!

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welcome blackjacklv..

 

I can relate so much to what you have been through. My first experience with depression was PPD after my first - it also was a very difficult delivery of a very big baby, i was cut from here to there, it hurt to sit, stand and everything else!!! Difficulty breast feeding, settling the baby, a baby with reflux AND colic and a very young, inexperienced and unsupported me!!! None of my friends had children and i had NO idea. I don't know what i was thinking!!!! I couldn't sleep, lost heaps of weight, was anxious and uncertain. It all sort of cleared up by around 8 weeks - i can't remember how, it was a long time ago, but i didn't take medication. IT happened again after number 2 and number 3 - i was so worried about it that i think i almost talked myself into it.

Since then i have had another few episodes - all without medication and all self limiting of about 6 months each. I had an episode in 1999 that was quite severe and i went on antidepressants, and haven't been able to get off - every time i came off i would get depressed again, thinking it was a relapse, when in fact it was probably withdrawal. So, now i am slowly withdrawing. It will probably take me another couple of years, but at this point it's better to do it right!

 

My advice is just to go slow - start off with 10% off your dose and stay there for at least a month after you don't have any symptoms and then take another 10% off your reduced dose. I take fish oil as my only supplement. And i eat very well, try to get the right sleep, don't drink alcohol and exercise about 4 times a week - i walk, swim and do yoga.

Started in 2000 - On 150mg most of the time, (but up to 225mg at highest dose for 6 months in the beginning)
Reduced off easily first time - but got depressed (not too much anxiety) 6 months later
Back on effexor for another 9 months.
Reduced off again with no immediate w/d - suddenly got depressed and anxious ++ again 3 or 4 months later.
Back on effexor - this time for 3 years
Reduced off over a month - 6 weeks later terrible anxiety - back on.
Rinse and repeat 4 more times - each time the period before the anxiety comes back got shorter and shorter
Jan - July 2012 75mg down to 37.5mg;, 8/3/12 - 35mg. 8/25/12 - 32mg. 9/11- 28mg, 10/2 - 25mg, 10/29 - 22mg, 11/19 - 19.8mg; 12/11 - 17m,
1/1- 15.5mg; 1/22 -14mg, 2/7 14.9mg, 2/18 - 17.8mg - crashed big time: back to 75mg where i sat for 2 years....

4th  March 2015 - 67.5mg;   31st March - 60mg;  24th April - 53mg; 13th May - 48mg; 26th May - 45mg;  9th June - 41mg; 1 July- 37.5mg; 20 July - 34mg; 11 August - 31mg; 1st Sept - 28mg;  1st Dec - 25.8mg;  28th Dec - 23.2mg; 23rd Jan-21.9mg; Feb 7th- 21mg; March 1st - 20.1mg, March 30th - 18mg

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Thank you Peggy for your support! It's nice to know I am not alone :-) People are still confused as to what PPD actually is. I get asked regularly when I share what I have been going through if I have wanted to hurt my baby. Ummmm no... I did not suffer from postpartum psychosis... thankfully!

For the management of Postpartum Depression & Anxiety:

 

Zoloft 25mg - 6/2011 - 4/2012

Tried to taper 12/2011 and went back on 25mg due to withdrawl symptoms

Tried to taper again 3/2012 - 4/2012 and had bad withdrawl symptons & rebounded terribly

Zoloft 50mg - 5/2012

Lexapro 10mg - 6/2012 to Present

9/17/12 - Dropped to 9mg

9/28/12 - Dropped to 8mg

10/12/12 - Dropped to 7mg

10/26/12 - Dropped to 6mg

11/2/12 - Dropped to 5mg

11/14/12 - Dropped to 4mg

11/26/12 - Dropped to 3mg

12/5/12 - Dropped to 2.5mg

12/14/12 - Dropped to 2mg

12/19/12 - Dropped to 1.5mg

12/23/12 - Dropped to 1mg

12/27/12 - Dropped to 0.5mg

1/1/13 - Off Lexapro!!!!

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you are certainly not alone - back then there was very little support - or even acknowledgement of PPD past the 3 day baby blues- the clinic nurse told me to have a glass of wine with dinner and i would be fine :blink: I really think a support group would have helped me a lot - if someone had told me that it was probably a result of hormone changes and exhaustion and it was OK to feel like this i think i might have come through a lot earlier. But i was all alone, my mother even told me 'don't be ridiculous'!!

 

you know, i am also a typical type A personality - but I am learning to be OK with letting things go - i am human so therefore cannot be perfect.

Started in 2000 - On 150mg most of the time, (but up to 225mg at highest dose for 6 months in the beginning)
Reduced off easily first time - but got depressed (not too much anxiety) 6 months later
Back on effexor for another 9 months.
Reduced off again with no immediate w/d - suddenly got depressed and anxious ++ again 3 or 4 months later.
Back on effexor - this time for 3 years
Reduced off over a month - 6 weeks later terrible anxiety - back on.
Rinse and repeat 4 more times - each time the period before the anxiety comes back got shorter and shorter
Jan - July 2012 75mg down to 37.5mg;, 8/3/12 - 35mg. 8/25/12 - 32mg. 9/11- 28mg, 10/2 - 25mg, 10/29 - 22mg, 11/19 - 19.8mg; 12/11 - 17m,
1/1- 15.5mg; 1/22 -14mg, 2/7 14.9mg, 2/18 - 17.8mg - crashed big time: back to 75mg where i sat for 2 years....

4th  March 2015 - 67.5mg;   31st March - 60mg;  24th April - 53mg; 13th May - 48mg; 26th May - 45mg;  9th June - 41mg; 1 July- 37.5mg; 20 July - 34mg; 11 August - 31mg; 1st Sept - 28mg;  1st Dec - 25.8mg;  28th Dec - 23.2mg; 23rd Jan-21.9mg; Feb 7th- 21mg; March 1st - 20.1mg, March 30th - 18mg

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Welcome to our community, Blackjacklv.

 

I second what peggy said, fish oil (with 400IU vitamin E a day) is a good place to start with supplements that can help you get into shape. Look around in our Symptoms and Self-Care forum, there are more suggestions there to help you make the transition to your drug-free life.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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I'm down to 8mg now and feeling fine... no withdrawl symptons yet. I am hopeful that I am taking it slow enough.

 

I remember reading about an algae based Omega 3 and was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on that? I really can't figure out what brand to take.... I just don't want the fish burps.

For the management of Postpartum Depression & Anxiety:

 

Zoloft 25mg - 6/2011 - 4/2012

Tried to taper 12/2011 and went back on 25mg due to withdrawl symptoms

Tried to taper again 3/2012 - 4/2012 and had bad withdrawl symptons & rebounded terribly

Zoloft 50mg - 5/2012

Lexapro 10mg - 6/2012 to Present

9/17/12 - Dropped to 9mg

9/28/12 - Dropped to 8mg

10/12/12 - Dropped to 7mg

10/26/12 - Dropped to 6mg

11/2/12 - Dropped to 5mg

11/14/12 - Dropped to 4mg

11/26/12 - Dropped to 3mg

12/5/12 - Dropped to 2.5mg

12/14/12 - Dropped to 2mg

12/19/12 - Dropped to 1.5mg

12/23/12 - Dropped to 1mg

12/27/12 - Dropped to 0.5mg

1/1/13 - Off Lexapro!!!!

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Hi Blackjacklv, thanks for the update, sounds like your taper is going well, are you using liquid or cutting tablets? (I don't really know much about lexapro), just remember not to rush anything! Hopefully someone will come along with info about the fish oils, I'm in the UK so I get different ones probably.

*** Please note this is not medical advice,discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner***





http://prozacwithdrawal.blogspot.com/
Original drug was sertraline/Zoloft, switched to Prozac in 2007.
Tapering from 5mls liquid prozac since Feb 2008, got down to 0.85ml 23/09/2012, reinstated back to 1ml(4mg) 07/11/2012, didn't appear to work, upped to 1.05ml 17/11/2012, back down to 1ml 12/12/2012 didn't work, up to 1.30ml 16/3/2013 didn't work, bumped up to 2ml (8mg) 4/4/2013 didn't work, in July 2013 I reinstated Sertraline (Zoloft) 50mg, feeling better now. 

A few months down the line I switched to 5ml liquid Prozac and tapered down to a compromise dose of 3ml liquid Prozac and have stayed there ever since, no withdrawals and no emotional blunting/loss of libido.

 

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nice to see you are doing well Blackjacklv - i see you didn't stay a long time on 9mg before dropping to 8mg - be careful as reductions can catch up with you..maybe stay on 8mg for 3 -4 weeks before dropping again.

Started in 2000 - On 150mg most of the time, (but up to 225mg at highest dose for 6 months in the beginning)
Reduced off easily first time - but got depressed (not too much anxiety) 6 months later
Back on effexor for another 9 months.
Reduced off again with no immediate w/d - suddenly got depressed and anxious ++ again 3 or 4 months later.
Back on effexor - this time for 3 years
Reduced off over a month - 6 weeks later terrible anxiety - back on.
Rinse and repeat 4 more times - each time the period before the anxiety comes back got shorter and shorter
Jan - July 2012 75mg down to 37.5mg;, 8/3/12 - 35mg. 8/25/12 - 32mg. 9/11- 28mg, 10/2 - 25mg, 10/29 - 22mg, 11/19 - 19.8mg; 12/11 - 17m,
1/1- 15.5mg; 1/22 -14mg, 2/7 14.9mg, 2/18 - 17.8mg - crashed big time: back to 75mg where i sat for 2 years....

4th  March 2015 - 67.5mg;   31st March - 60mg;  24th April - 53mg; 13th May - 48mg; 26th May - 45mg;  9th June - 41mg; 1 July- 37.5mg; 20 July - 34mg; 11 August - 31mg; 1st Sept - 28mg;  1st Dec - 25.8mg;  28th Dec - 23.2mg; 23rd Jan-21.9mg; Feb 7th- 21mg; March 1st - 20.1mg, March 30th - 18mg

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I am using liquid now since I can get an exact measurement. I was lucky in that the generic version of Lexapro was just relased in the liquid form the week I got my prescrption. My online pharmacy vendor had to actually order it since my perscrption was the first request. The generic is making it very cheap for me! Thankfully.

 

I was just thinking about how long it would take for the drop in dosage to take an impact or for me to notice it. I haven't noticed anything yet, but you think I could? The only thing I can tell is that at times I have a hard time getting the correct words out of my mouth. I didn't know if that was a withdrawl sympton or just me being dumb?

Peggy you ever heard of this?

 

I will try to stay at 8mg for at least a few weeks. I'm sure like most I am just anxious to get off this stuff now that I am dropping so it's hard not to want to speed the process up.... *sigh*

For the management of Postpartum Depression & Anxiety:

 

Zoloft 25mg - 6/2011 - 4/2012

Tried to taper 12/2011 and went back on 25mg due to withdrawl symptoms

Tried to taper again 3/2012 - 4/2012 and had bad withdrawl symptons & rebounded terribly

Zoloft 50mg - 5/2012

Lexapro 10mg - 6/2012 to Present

9/17/12 - Dropped to 9mg

9/28/12 - Dropped to 8mg

10/12/12 - Dropped to 7mg

10/26/12 - Dropped to 6mg

11/2/12 - Dropped to 5mg

11/14/12 - Dropped to 4mg

11/26/12 - Dropped to 3mg

12/5/12 - Dropped to 2.5mg

12/14/12 - Dropped to 2mg

12/19/12 - Dropped to 1.5mg

12/23/12 - Dropped to 1mg

12/27/12 - Dropped to 0.5mg

1/1/13 - Off Lexapro!!!!

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Blackjack,

 

Yes, word finding (aphagia) seems to be common. It will improve. Here's a brief discussion with mention:

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2476-trouble-spelling/page__fromsearch__1

Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc).

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Blackjacklv - it is very common for different withdrawal effects to emerge at different times - for me, i get some minor head spins, gut stuff and poor sleep in the first few days - but anxiety and depression can kick in at 3 weeks- that does seem to be a common report, so it really would be better to wait - it usually pays off in the end as you are less likely to have to updose - and of course less likely to experience symptoms - think of tortoise and hare - many times the tortoise wins

Started in 2000 - On 150mg most of the time, (but up to 225mg at highest dose for 6 months in the beginning)
Reduced off easily first time - but got depressed (not too much anxiety) 6 months later
Back on effexor for another 9 months.
Reduced off again with no immediate w/d - suddenly got depressed and anxious ++ again 3 or 4 months later.
Back on effexor - this time for 3 years
Reduced off over a month - 6 weeks later terrible anxiety - back on.
Rinse and repeat 4 more times - each time the period before the anxiety comes back got shorter and shorter
Jan - July 2012 75mg down to 37.5mg;, 8/3/12 - 35mg. 8/25/12 - 32mg. 9/11- 28mg, 10/2 - 25mg, 10/29 - 22mg, 11/19 - 19.8mg; 12/11 - 17m,
1/1- 15.5mg; 1/22 -14mg, 2/7 14.9mg, 2/18 - 17.8mg - crashed big time: back to 75mg where i sat for 2 years....

4th  March 2015 - 67.5mg;   31st March - 60mg;  24th April - 53mg; 13th May - 48mg; 26th May - 45mg;  9th June - 41mg; 1 July- 37.5mg; 20 July - 34mg; 11 August - 31mg; 1st Sept - 28mg;  1st Dec - 25.8mg;  28th Dec - 23.2mg; 23rd Jan-21.9mg; Feb 7th- 21mg; March 1st - 20.1mg, March 30th - 18mg

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I am using liquid now since I can get an exact measurement. I was lucky in that the generic version of Lexapro was just relased in the liquid form the week I got my prescrption. My online pharmacy vendor had to actually order it since my perscrption was the first request. The generic is making it very cheap for me! Thankfully.

 

I was just thinking about how long it would take for the drop in dosage to take an impact or for me to notice it. I haven't noticed anything yet, but you think I could? The only thing I can tell is that at times I have a hard time getting the correct words out of my mouth. I didn't know if that was a withdrawl sympton or just me being dumb?

Peggy you ever heard of this?

 

I will try to stay at 8mg for at least a few weeks. I'm sure like most I am just anxious to get off this stuff now that I am dropping so it's hard not to want to speed the process up.... *sigh*

 

Hi Blackjacklv

 

It sounds like not being able to get the correct words out could be early withdrawal symptoms ... I know how badly you want to be off of these meds, but you'll do yourself a favor by giving yourself a good 4 weeks at this current dose before making another decrement. I recommend tracking and rating symptoms so that you can see if you are starting to have withdrawal symptoms http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1779-rate-symptoms-daily-to-catch-withdrawal-early/.

 

The pmeds can have a cumulative effect when we are withdrawing from them. Last fall I was reducing by 6.25 mg of Effexor every 2 weeks and thought I was going to be off of Effexor by the end of the year. The cumulative effect of the every 2 week reduction caught up with me and it was ugly and uncomfortable for a bit. I had to up-dose, get stable and come off more slowly.

 

We recommend holding your first dosage for 4 weeks, the next for 4 weeks ... if that all goes well try 3 weeks in your next decrement and then ultimately you could then try holding the dose for 2 weeks. Remember to reduce by 10% or less with each reduction unless that proves to be too much ... and then there is nothing wrong with reducing by a lesser amount with each reduction.

 

Love and light,

Karma

2007 @ 375 mg Effexor - 11/29/2011 - 43.75 mg Effexor (regular) & .625 mg Xanax

200 mg Gabapentin 2/27/21 - 194.5 mg, 5/28/21 - 183 mg, 8/2/21 - 170 mg, 11/28/21 - 150 mg, 4/19/22 - 122 mg; 8//7/22 - 100 mg
Xanax taper: 3/11/12 - 0.9375 mg, 3/25/12 - 0.875 mg, 4/6/12 - 0.8125 mg, 4/18/12 - 0.75 mg; 1/16 0.6875 mg; at some point 0.625 mg
Effexor taper: 1/29/12 - 40.625 mg, 4/29/12 - 39.875 mg, 5/11/12 - Switched to liquid Effexor, 5/25/12 - 38 mg, 7/6/12 - 35 mg, 8/17/12 - 32 mg, 9/14/12 - 30 mg, 10/19/12 - 28 mg, 11/9/12 - 26 mg, 11/30/12 - 24 mg, 01/14/13 - 22 mg. 02/25/13 - 20.8 mg, 03/18/13 - 19.2 mg, 4/15/13 - 17.6 mg, 8/10/13 - 16.4 mg, 9/7/13 - 15.2 mg, 10/19/13 - 14 mg, 1/15/14 - 13.2 mg, 3/1/2014 - 12.6 mg, 5/4/14 - 12 mg, 8/1/14 - 11.4 mg, 8/29/14 - 10.8 mg; 10/14/14 - 10.2 mg; 12/15/14 - 10 mg, 1/11/15 - 9.5 mg, 2/8/15 - 9 mg, 3/21/15 - 8.5 mg, 5/1/15 - 8 mg, 6/9/15 - 7.5 mg, 7/8/15 - 7 mg, 8/22/15 - 6.5 mg, 10/4/15 - 6 mg; 1/1/16 - 5.6 mg; 2/6/16 - 5.2 mg; 4/9 - 4.8 mg; 7/7 4.5 mg; 10/7 4.25 mg; 11/4 4.0 mg; 11/25 3.8 mg; 4/24 3.6 mg; 5/27 3.4 mg; 7/8 3.2 mg ... 10/18 2.8 mg; 1/18 2.6 mg; 4/7 2.4 mg; 5/26 2.15mg; 8/18 1.85 mg; 10/7 1.7 mg; 12/1 1.45 mg; 3/2 1.2 mg; 5/4 0.90 mg; 6/1 0.80 mg; 6/22 0.65 mg; 08/03 0.50 mg, 08/10 0.45 mg, 10/05 0.325 mg, 11/23 0.2 mg, 12/14 0.15 mg, 12/21 0.125 mg, 02/28 0.03125 mg, 2/15 0.015625 mg, 2/29/20 0.00 mg - OFF Effexor


I am not a medical professional - this is not medical advice. My suggestions are based on personal experience, reading, observation and anecdotal information posted by other sufferers

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Thank you karma, peggy and barbarannamated for the responses! I am thankful to have the feedback so I can have a better grap on what looks like a withdrawl sypmtom. I am going to hold steady at 8mg for the next month. That checklist is great and I am going to print it out, so thank you!

For the management of Postpartum Depression & Anxiety:

 

Zoloft 25mg - 6/2011 - 4/2012

Tried to taper 12/2011 and went back on 25mg due to withdrawl symptoms

Tried to taper again 3/2012 - 4/2012 and had bad withdrawl symptons & rebounded terribly

Zoloft 50mg - 5/2012

Lexapro 10mg - 6/2012 to Present

9/17/12 - Dropped to 9mg

9/28/12 - Dropped to 8mg

10/12/12 - Dropped to 7mg

10/26/12 - Dropped to 6mg

11/2/12 - Dropped to 5mg

11/14/12 - Dropped to 4mg

11/26/12 - Dropped to 3mg

12/5/12 - Dropped to 2.5mg

12/14/12 - Dropped to 2mg

12/19/12 - Dropped to 1.5mg

12/23/12 - Dropped to 1mg

12/27/12 - Dropped to 0.5mg

1/1/13 - Off Lexapro!!!!

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  • 3 weeks later...

I dropped another 1 mg on the 12th of this month and the only real side effects I might be noticing would be headaches that first week after the drop. However the weather has been changing so that could be the cause of the headaches too. I have had migranes since my early 20's so headaches are a normal part of my exsistence. I am going to drop another 1 mg tomorrow so and I will watch to see if the headaches start up again. Other than that no mood swings, dizziness or zaps. Praying my body will continue to tolorate the 1mg every 2 week drop. We wanted to start trying for baby #2 at the start of the year, but I won't take the risk while I am on this stuff....

For the management of Postpartum Depression & Anxiety:

 

Zoloft 25mg - 6/2011 - 4/2012

Tried to taper 12/2011 and went back on 25mg due to withdrawl symptoms

Tried to taper again 3/2012 - 4/2012 and had bad withdrawl symptons & rebounded terribly

Zoloft 50mg - 5/2012

Lexapro 10mg - 6/2012 to Present

9/17/12 - Dropped to 9mg

9/28/12 - Dropped to 8mg

10/12/12 - Dropped to 7mg

10/26/12 - Dropped to 6mg

11/2/12 - Dropped to 5mg

11/14/12 - Dropped to 4mg

11/26/12 - Dropped to 3mg

12/5/12 - Dropped to 2.5mg

12/14/12 - Dropped to 2mg

12/19/12 - Dropped to 1.5mg

12/23/12 - Dropped to 1mg

12/27/12 - Dropped to 0.5mg

1/1/13 - Off Lexapro!!!!

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good to hear you are going well blackjacklv - but be cautious here - you are dropping more than 10% at intervals of only 2 weeks - we all understand the need to get off quick - but what time you gain by going a bit faster you may lose ten fold if you have to updose and stabilise again - in the long term view, at this point you want to be super careful.

Started in 2000 - On 150mg most of the time, (but up to 225mg at highest dose for 6 months in the beginning)
Reduced off easily first time - but got depressed (not too much anxiety) 6 months later
Back on effexor for another 9 months.
Reduced off again with no immediate w/d - suddenly got depressed and anxious ++ again 3 or 4 months later.
Back on effexor - this time for 3 years
Reduced off over a month - 6 weeks later terrible anxiety - back on.
Rinse and repeat 4 more times - each time the period before the anxiety comes back got shorter and shorter
Jan - July 2012 75mg down to 37.5mg;, 8/3/12 - 35mg. 8/25/12 - 32mg. 9/11- 28mg, 10/2 - 25mg, 10/29 - 22mg, 11/19 - 19.8mg; 12/11 - 17m,
1/1- 15.5mg; 1/22 -14mg, 2/7 14.9mg, 2/18 - 17.8mg - crashed big time: back to 75mg where i sat for 2 years....

4th  March 2015 - 67.5mg;   31st March - 60mg;  24th April - 53mg; 13th May - 48mg; 26th May - 45mg;  9th June - 41mg; 1 July- 37.5mg; 20 July - 34mg; 11 August - 31mg; 1st Sept - 28mg;  1st Dec - 25.8mg;  28th Dec - 23.2mg; 23rd Jan-21.9mg; Feb 7th- 21mg; March 1st - 20.1mg, March 30th - 18mg

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I second what peggy said. As you get lower in dosage, a 1mg drop is a larger and larger percent of the total.

 

What you want to do is decrease at 10% of the last dosage. The decreases get progressively smaller. This enables your nervous system to accommodate to the changes.

 

How about a .5mg drop next? You can keep doing this until you get to under 5mg.

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Yes please keep in mind that the lower you go the bigger each ml drop represents in percentage terms. So when you were at 10ml, a 1ml drop = 10%. When you are at 5ml, a 1ml drop = 20% This is really taking a risk. I know you are keen to get off and I understand why but you want to get there in good shape. In fact you want to be in great shape so that you can manage all the changes that pregnancy brings. I know its worked ok so far but each time you do it you are taking a bigger risk.

Please note - I am not a medical practitioner and I do not give medical advice. I offer an opinion based on my own experiences, reading and discussion with others.On Effexor for 2 months at the start of 2005. Had extreme insomnia as an adverse reaction. Changed to mirtazapine. Have been trying to get off since mid 2008 with numerous failures including CTs and slow (but not slow enough tapers)Have slow tapered at 10 per cent or less for years. I have liquid mirtazapine made at a compounding chemist.

Was on 1.6 ml as at 19 March 2014.

Dropped to 1.5 ml 7 June 2014. Dropped to 1.4 in about September.

Dropped to 1.3 on 20 December 2014. Dropped to 1.2 in mid Jan 2015.

Dropped to 1 ml in late Feb 2015. I think my old medication had run out of puff so I tried 1ml when I got the new stuff and it seems to be going ok. Sleep has been good over the last week (as of 13/3/15).

Dropped to 1/2 ml 14/11/15 Fatigue still there as are memory and cognition problems. Sleep is patchy but liveable compared to what it has been in the past.

 

DRUG FREE - as at 1st May 2017

 

>My intro post is here - http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2250-dalsaan

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What is it about going under 5mg that it would make it ok to drop faster than 10%, which is what you are recomending right now. So then if I dropped .5 mg every two weeks until I get under 5 then that would be better?

For the management of Postpartum Depression & Anxiety:

 

Zoloft 25mg - 6/2011 - 4/2012

Tried to taper 12/2011 and went back on 25mg due to withdrawl symptoms

Tried to taper again 3/2012 - 4/2012 and had bad withdrawl symptons & rebounded terribly

Zoloft 50mg - 5/2012

Lexapro 10mg - 6/2012 to Present

9/17/12 - Dropped to 9mg

9/28/12 - Dropped to 8mg

10/12/12 - Dropped to 7mg

10/26/12 - Dropped to 6mg

11/2/12 - Dropped to 5mg

11/14/12 - Dropped to 4mg

11/26/12 - Dropped to 3mg

12/5/12 - Dropped to 2.5mg

12/14/12 - Dropped to 2mg

12/19/12 - Dropped to 1.5mg

12/23/12 - Dropped to 1mg

12/27/12 - Dropped to 0.5mg

1/1/13 - Off Lexapro!!!!

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What I meant was, rather than painstakingly measure 10% of the last dosage for each drop, you could decrease by .5mg until you get to less than 5mg, then make smaller decreases by 10% or less of the last dosage for each drop.

 

For example, reduce by .5mg until you get to 4.5mg. At that point, .5mg would be greater than 10%. You might decrease by .25mg until you get under 2.5mg, then reduce by .10mg.

 

When you are reducing by .10mg, you might find you can make reductions more frequently than every 2 weeks (a micro-taper).

 

This just saves you the calculations. If you'd rather calculate 10% of each dosage, you can do that, too.

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Just wanted to give a little update on my taper. I have been dropping .5mg every week or so. I just kinda feel it out and decide when it feels right to drop again. I am down to 3mg and haven't felt this great in a long time. I will drop to 2mg Friday or this coming weekend. I didn't realize how much the lexapro had diminished my motivation until I dropped under 5mg. I actually now feel really motivated and I even joined a gym a couple of weeks ago and started working out more seriously! It could be the 10 lbs I have gained since I started on lexapro that just made me go "I've had it!" but regardless I am feeling more interested in life in general that I have in a while. No side effects that I have noticed so I think I see the light at the end of the tunnel :D Plan is to be completely off the Lexapro by January 1st!!!!

For the management of Postpartum Depression & Anxiety:

 

Zoloft 25mg - 6/2011 - 4/2012

Tried to taper 12/2011 and went back on 25mg due to withdrawl symptoms

Tried to taper again 3/2012 - 4/2012 and had bad withdrawl symptons & rebounded terribly

Zoloft 50mg - 5/2012

Lexapro 10mg - 6/2012 to Present

9/17/12 - Dropped to 9mg

9/28/12 - Dropped to 8mg

10/12/12 - Dropped to 7mg

10/26/12 - Dropped to 6mg

11/2/12 - Dropped to 5mg

11/14/12 - Dropped to 4mg

11/26/12 - Dropped to 3mg

12/5/12 - Dropped to 2.5mg

12/14/12 - Dropped to 2mg

12/19/12 - Dropped to 1.5mg

12/23/12 - Dropped to 1mg

12/27/12 - Dropped to 0.5mg

1/1/13 - Off Lexapro!!!!

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Good to hear this is going so well for you.

 

Just a tip -- sometimes the last little bit gets difficult. Suggest decreasing by .5mg per week rather than 1mg to let your nervous system down easy.

 

This might take a little longer but be better for you in the long run.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Well I have officially been off Lexapro starting the first... I am a week in and definitely feeling withdrawl effects. The most significant are the physical ones of feeling a similar sensation to have pins and needles in my arms and legs. It's annoying but tolerable. It took a few days of not taking the Lexapro before it starting kicking in. I have noticed that I am a bit more irritable and had 2 migranes this past week, but again not anything I can't handle. This is just further confirmation that I won't ever go back on anti depressents unless the benefits seriously outweigh the consequences!!!!! This getting off the drugs suck... tolerable... but still suck.

 

Now you ask why wouldn't I just go back up to .05 mg to relieve some of this. Becuase I am stubborn and made the commitment in my head that I wanted to be off this stuff starting the 1st of 2013. We want to start trying to have another baby and I just gotta do this and be done with it before we start trying next month. I definitely don't want this med in my system when we start trying. I am hoping that in a few weeks the physical stuff will subside and I'll be fine. In all honestly overall I feel better off it (more motivation, I like having emotions again) than I was on it, so let's hope it all goes well :-)

 

Feel free to post any tips to get through the next few weeks if you think they will help :-)

For the management of Postpartum Depression & Anxiety:

 

Zoloft 25mg - 6/2011 - 4/2012

Tried to taper 12/2011 and went back on 25mg due to withdrawl symptoms

Tried to taper again 3/2012 - 4/2012 and had bad withdrawl symptons & rebounded terribly

Zoloft 50mg - 5/2012

Lexapro 10mg - 6/2012 to Present

9/17/12 - Dropped to 9mg

9/28/12 - Dropped to 8mg

10/12/12 - Dropped to 7mg

10/26/12 - Dropped to 6mg

11/2/12 - Dropped to 5mg

11/14/12 - Dropped to 4mg

11/26/12 - Dropped to 3mg

12/5/12 - Dropped to 2.5mg

12/14/12 - Dropped to 2mg

12/19/12 - Dropped to 1.5mg

12/23/12 - Dropped to 1mg

12/27/12 - Dropped to 0.5mg

1/1/13 - Off Lexapro!!!!

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Hang onto your Lexapro tablets just in case.

Psychotropic drug history: Pristiq 50 mg. (mid-September 2010 through February 2011), Remeron (mid-September 2010 through January 2011), Lexapro 10 mg. (mid-February 2011 through mid-December 2011), Lorazepam (Ativan) 1 mg. as needed mid-September 2010 through early March 2012

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Introduction: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1588-introducing-jemima/

 

Success Story: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/6263-success-jemima-survives-lexapro-and-dr-dickhead-too/

Please note that I am not a medical professional and my advice is based on personal experience, reading, and anecdotal information posted by other sufferers.

 

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Oh yes Jemima... I have a boat load of the liquid stuff left just in case it gets bad :-)

For the management of Postpartum Depression & Anxiety:

 

Zoloft 25mg - 6/2011 - 4/2012

Tried to taper 12/2011 and went back on 25mg due to withdrawl symptoms

Tried to taper again 3/2012 - 4/2012 and had bad withdrawl symptons & rebounded terribly

Zoloft 50mg - 5/2012

Lexapro 10mg - 6/2012 to Present

9/17/12 - Dropped to 9mg

9/28/12 - Dropped to 8mg

10/12/12 - Dropped to 7mg

10/26/12 - Dropped to 6mg

11/2/12 - Dropped to 5mg

11/14/12 - Dropped to 4mg

11/26/12 - Dropped to 3mg

12/5/12 - Dropped to 2.5mg

12/14/12 - Dropped to 2mg

12/19/12 - Dropped to 1.5mg

12/23/12 - Dropped to 1mg

12/27/12 - Dropped to 0.5mg

1/1/13 - Off Lexapro!!!!

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Hi blackjacklv I'm not sure if you are still active in this forum and ask how you are doing now? I'm about to start tapering cipralex (escitalopram same as lexapro) from 5mg and found your thread while searching the site for experiences of this...

 

Gems X

Oct10 - Mar11 fluoxetine (increased over this time 10mg-40mg)

Mar11 - Jun11 escitalopram (10mg)

Jun11 - Nov11 escitalopram (20mg)

Nov11- Jan12 escitalopram (15mg)

Jan12 - Feb13 escitalopram (10mg)

Feb13 - May13 escitalopram (5mg)

May13 - Jun13 venlafaxine (75mg)

Cold turkey for 1-2wks in Jun13

End Jun13 back on escitalopram (5mg) to stabilise then start taper...

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Me , too want to know how you holding up. Your taper is very quick...

Seroxat10mg/Lexapro 5 Mg ( Half Tablet ) since Jan 2012Seroxat 7mg Feb 2012Seroxat 5mg March 2013Seroxat 2.5 mg April2013, Off TranxeneLexapro 1.25 mg April 2013Off Lexapro 14 April 2013Reinstated Tranxene since 16 April (Heavy Insomnia and low agitating at night.)Reinstated Lexapro 1.25mg + tanxeme 5 mg 28 April 2013 (still experience insomnia and agitatin at night only.)Lexapro 2.5 mg + 5 mg tranxene + Zypraxa 2.5 mg 15 May 2013 (still agitating and getting worse)Seroxat 5 mg + 5 mg tranxene 20 May 2013 (anxious at night. Heavy Head)Seroxat 6 mg + 5 mg tranxene 24 May 2013 (dizziness and light headache)Seroxat 10mg + 5 mg tranxene 1 June 2013 (pDoc adviced... i shouldn't follow..dam)<p>Lexapro 5mg 20 June 2013
Lexapro 2.5 mg 1 Aug 2013
Lexapro 1.25 mg 21 Aug 2013
off 11 September 2013

current : 1g vitamin C + 300 mg magnisium + 3mg melatonin and Valerian root ( 4-5 a.m. ) working alright.

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