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Hello Everyone,

 

Here is my story. Sorry it is so long, this is actually the short version!! I was on Paxil for 10 years from 1998 to 2008.

 

In 2008 I was having trouble getting off of Paxil so my doctor switched me over to Cymbalta for a couple months and said that would help me get off easier. I did manage to wean myself of from the Cymbalta with the usual brain zaps and other short term withdrawal symptoms. These symptoms went away after a few weeks and I felt pretty good.

 

I thought that was the end of SSRI”S,. Wrong!!! Move forward to September 2010. I started to have several things go wrong with me. I had a leg infection that would not heal, my muscles were starting to ache, I was getting out of breath, my memory was getting bad, I was very sensitive to caffeine and I was becoming fatigued. I tried to ignore them thinking I was overworked but the symptoms persisted.

 

The infection appeared as though it was going away but would get worse again. I was directed to an infectious disease specialist in November of 2012. He ran tons of blood tests and said that I had Mitochondrial dysfunction (a very rare disease).

 

He gave me a compounded supplement which included several vitamins, Creatine and CoQ10. All things to boost my energy. Well I began to take them and I went Crazy Extreme Anxiety, Head Zaps, adrenaline rushes and Hot flashes. One minute I was cold the next I was hot. The doctor said that it might take a couple weeks for my body to get used to the supplements.

 

Well I took them for a month and couldn’t stand it anymore, I stopped but the effects continued for another month or so. After they effects stopped I was exhausted.

 

My muscles were very weak I had trouble breathing I had constant anxiety< my nervous system was very sensitive to everything including sound and light and my eyesight was very blurry with lots of floaters. I went to the hospital and was admitted. They ran many tests all were normal.

 

They said that I was Anxious and depressed and gave me Prozac. I took two doses and went Crazy again. Higher Anxiety, Shaking and a new symptom (or so I thought) crazy Blood Pressure and Heart rate up to 170 Beats per minute.

They said that was because I was out of shape.

 

Well I stopped the Prozac and was released with my new symptoms. I was getting worse by the day so I went and checked into a highly reputable clinic in a city nearby, They ran all kinds of tests and found nothing , They gave me a prescription for a beta blocker for my heart rate and sent me home.

 

I continued to get worse and in my desperation I tried to get back on paxil to help with my now crazy depression and other symptoms. Well after one dose I experienced a mania. This mania although uncomfortable got me out of bed and up and moving. My wife said it was a miracle but I knew better. There will be a price to pay later on.

 

I could not stand the Mani so I cold turkey quit the paxil after one dose, hoping it would go away. It did not! I was able to do more so I did but was worried about the extreme fatigue I left behind. I knew it was still there somewhere and that the Paxil was in essence covering it up.

 

I did tons of research and came to the conclusion that I was originally experiencing Dysautonomia type symptoms from SSRI withdrawal hence the out of breath and muscle weakness from an elevated heart rate which I didn’t know I had. When I was put on the supplements for the supposed Mitochondrial problems I had a bad reaction to them because of hypersensitivity caused by SSRI withdrawal.

 

When I again took not one but two different SSRI,s the Mania was brought on by what I now think is and abundance of Serotonin in my brain. I am still on the Mania trip from the last Paxil dose., I believe I have adrenal fatigue from all of this that’s why I was so tired.

 

I am not sure how the heck I am going to get out of this mess I have decided to try a homeopathic doctor. I am currently trying to cut out all bad food and I am taking a couple supplements to get my adrenals going again. Any suggestion with bringing down the Mania or helping with the intermittent bouts of depression or anything PLEASE let me know. Thanks so much!

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Welcome, Goose.

 

I'm so sorry for all you've been through. Many of us here understand all too well the hypersensitivity you're clearly experiencing. (I have been one of the more extreme cases of this; it doesn't happen to everyone, but some of us seem to be physiologically predisposed to this, and we can remain hypersensitive long after the meds are out of our systems.) I'm so glad you were wise enough to research and to reason out the source and stop taking medications.

 

I am still on the Mania trip from the last Paxil dose., I believe I have adrenal fatigue from all of this that’s why I was so tired. I am not sure how the heck I am going to get out of this mess I have decided to try a homeopathic doctor. I am currently trying to cut out all bad food and I am taking a couple supplements to get my adrenals going again. Any suggestion with bringing down the Mania or helping with the intermittent bouts of depression or anything PLEASE let me know. Thanks so much!

 

You didn't mention exactly which adrenal support supplements you're taking. But I think you probably need to stop taking any and all supplements and meds (unless there is a medical necessity where your health would be endangered without them). At least for a while until things settle a bit more. That includes over-the-counter meds and you also very probably need to avoid adrenal support supplements as well.

 

I too have been diagnosed with adrenal fatigue (while still on paxil - and by another doctor even before paxil was invented, though I was on other meds including antihistamines. Adrenal support supplements never helped me in the slightest. And even though a lot of people are very skeptical about "adrenal fatigue" (and I do think they're partially right in that it's become a catch-all diagnosis in too many cases simply because doctors and naturopaths don't know what else could be causing a certain sert of symptoms), in my particular case there were definite reasons to believe that was genuinely an issue. But supplements (including adrenal extract as well as the usual adrenal support vitsmins etc.) never helped me one bit.

 

In withdrawal (and I believe after adverse reactions to these meds), I think adrenal support supplements may actually exacerbate the condition. Partly because of the hypersensitivity many of us develop to potent or concentrated substances including supplements, but also --

 

Just conjecture on my part, but I think when adrenals are fatigued due to what these meds have done to our bodies, it's because withdrawal or other med reactions (including adverse ones) probably put our adrenals into overdrive. We know they affect the entire neuroendocrine system, and I think many symptoms we experience are due to huge fluctuations in neurohormone levels. It's very common to experience hypomania or full-blown mania, and even more commonly surges of adrenaline and cortisol etc. (Sometimes - and especially - during sleep.)

 

The theory I came up with long ago to explain why I had these problems and also such fatigue I often was so weak I had to lie down, is that my adrenals were probably frequently going into overdrive, leading inevitably to a rollercoaster ride of surges of biohormones followed by... adrenal fatigue. Of course, the adrenals would be fatigued.

 

But most of us have found that the best thing to do is not to interfere with the body's complex fluctuations while it's healing and trying to get back to normal balance and function.

 

I love naturopathic medicine and have for many, many decades. I believe whenever there is a natural alternative to medication, it is usually much safer and sometimes even more effective. But this is generally not a good option when healing from these meds. There are a few supplements that many people (though not all) can tolerate and find helpful with some symptoms, though interestingly I've noticed that what people can take and find helpful for some symptoms at one point in recovering can make them feel worse at others.

 

Like I said, the body is going through enormous flux, and that can be true for some time. Supplements, when used, needed to be introduced very slowly and carefully (and only one at a time!) - and knowledgeably in terms of all that "withdrawal" from these meds entails. It would be sheer chance if a naturopath or other practitioner of alternative health care, or even a holistic physician, would know anything about this. What works on a basically normal (though ill) body is a whole other thing from what is appropriate for a body that has been altered at the cellular level by these meds in ways that never occur in nature.

 

Please know that the body will heal in time. Things will get better! But problems from these meds are something new and the old rules are often out the window for a while.

 

We're here to be support and share our various experiences with you as you heal from this.

I was "TryingToGetWell" (aka TTGW) on paxilprogress. I also was one of the original members here on Surviving Antidepressants

 

I had horrific and protracted withdrawal from paxil, but now am back to enjoying life with enthusiasm to the max, some residual physical symptoms continued but largely improve. The horror, severe derealization, anhedonia, akathisia, and so much more, are long over.

 

My signature is a temporary scribble from year 2013. I'll rewrite it when I can.

 

If you want to read it, click on http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/209-brandy-anyone/?p=110343

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Thanks so much for your comments I think you are right by saying i should get off all my supplements Im currently taking coq10 vit c vit e fish oil magnesium and a adrenal tincture Im ery concerned with getting oof of them as i believe they are keeping me going and i will crash hard It is probably best in the long run Thanks again

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I couldn't tolerate CoQ10 (tried various brands) even when I was still on paxil. No idea why - I was actually taking many supplements then that really benefited me at the time. I didn't have an extreme reaction to it by any means, just never felt quite right when I took it.

 

Fish oil helps many people in withdrawal, but some people find it too stimulating. I've also read of cases where people found it soothed some symptoms a bit at one stage of tapering, then became too stimulating and had to be discontinued at another time.

 

A lot of people find magnesium helps them, but I'm one of many people who just can't tolerate it. In any form (tried many different kinds of chelates).

 

I try to get nutrients from healthy food that's (when possible) in as natural state as possible. Organic when possible, but at least without preservatives or other additives, and as much as my body tolerates in as unprocessed a form as possible.

 

What does the adrenal tincture contain? (Hopefully it will say on the label.) You could try going off these supplements one at a time to try (it can get tricky with withdrawal's ups and downs) to figure out which is affecting you in what way. Depending on what's in that tincture, I'd say if you do it one at a time, this would be the one to discontinue first.

 

If you eat a healthy diet, it shouldn't be a problem stopping them. In the future you might want to try re-introducing some of them one at a time, and I suggest by taking just a tiny amount of the tablet or capsule at first, then gradually (every approx 4-7 days) adding just a tiny bit more, etc., as you see how your body responds.

 

But unless someone here has different input relevant to your case, I really think you should stay off them all for a time. When I was in acute withdrawal, I felt better after I stopped all supplements. I don't think all had started affecting me negatively, but the frequent (very frequent!) changes in symptoms, often even within a day, made it impossible to determine which particular supplement was doing what, although when I unexpectedly got worse (exacerbated symptoms) and stayed worse until discontinuing a newly-introduced supplement - ones that were specifically recommended for withdrawal symptoms and not the ones I'd been taking prior to w/d (withdrawal), and which I'd been certain would help me - those were pretty easy to see were not for me.

 

Once you've reached a baseline off supplements, you could certainly start slowly introducing some, but I'd suggest you avoid any that might stimulate the adrenals for quite some time.

 

And if you're nervous about stopping the supplements you're taking, you could decrease the doses gradually. No need to taper as with meds, but if you feel more comfortable doing it that way, try that!

I was "TryingToGetWell" (aka TTGW) on paxilprogress. I also was one of the original members here on Surviving Antidepressants

 

I had horrific and protracted withdrawal from paxil, but now am back to enjoying life with enthusiasm to the max, some residual physical symptoms continued but largely improve. The horror, severe derealization, anhedonia, akathisia, and so much more, are long over.

 

My signature is a temporary scribble from year 2013. I'll rewrite it when I can.

 

If you want to read it, click on http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/209-brandy-anyone/?p=110343

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Thanks I think i will take them away one at a time to see what happens I think inwill start with the adrenal tincture Thanks so much

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Welcome to our community, Goose.

 

Thanks, Brandy, for that very good advice for Goose. It does sound like you have post-SSRI hypersensitivity, Goose.

 

How has your sleep been?

 

Was the "infectious disease specialist" an integrative physician?

 

How did you do your research about your condition?

 

(PS Please put paragraph breaks in your posts, it makes them a lot easier to read.)

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My sleep has been rough I wake up several times a night The infectious disease specialist was not an integrated doc Sorry about the paragraphs i will keep that in mind Thanks

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Getting better sleep may help with your energy level. See Important topics about symptoms, including sleep problems

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Hello all

 

I have a question i took paxil for ten years Weened off and about 1 1/2 years later starting having withdrawl symptoms On 2/22/12 i took a couple doses of oloft and it made me feel wose so i stopped cold turkey

 

I the took one dose of pacil on 4/30/12 because my depression was getting crazy This gave me mania like symptoms which instill have

 

Should i try another ssri Inwas thinking of going on a liquid bersion and starting up very slowly Whats your thoughts I know its a crap shoot Thanks

 

P.s. my whole story is in the new member section!!

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Hello all

 

I have a question i took paxil for ten years Weened off and about 1 1/2 years later starting having withdrawl symptoms On 2/22/12 i took a couple doses of oloft and it made me feel wose so i stopped cold turkey

 

I the took one dose of pacil on 4/30/12 because my depression was getting crazy This gave me mania like symptoms which instill have

 

Should i try another ssri Inwas thinking of going on a liquid bersion and starting up very slowly Whats your thoughts I know its a crap shoot Thanks

 

P.s. my whole story is in the new member section!!

 

Hi Goose.. maybe it would be good to put this question in your intro thread, or link thru? Do you know how to set up your sig line, could you use some help. Check this link out.

 

Very glad to see you here.. Just trying to help you get settled in for a spell!!

As always, LISTEN TO YOUR BODY! A proud supporter of the 10% (or slower) rule.

 

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Hi, Goose, I moved your questions here.

 

Your Intro topic is the place to ask questions about your particular situation. You won't have to repeat yourself or post your story in various places.

 

I don't know if taking any kind of antidepressant is going to help you, it's been so long since you've come off. The supplements you've been experimenting with may have triggered drug-induced hypersensitivity.

 

If I were you, I'd do what I can to settle my nervous system down with non-drug methods. Over time, it will heal, but you have to take care of it gently.

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Hi Goose

 

I was on Paxil for about 9-10 years. I too, was unable to get off of it, so I switched to Lexapro. In your case you were put on Cymbalta which is not an ssri. So you went into another medication all together.

 

I have read posts here from members who are experiencing WD problems from cymbalta.

 

You got off two meds which are notorious for WD backlash. My take on your situation is that you got slammed back-to-back with paxil WD and Cymbalta WD.

 

I took Zoloft once - one pill and I thought I was going to jump off a bridge. The anxiety was unbearable. This happened to you too and this happened to me with Prozac which I took for a week. Some similarities here.

 

As for supplements, the B's cause anxiety now, they never did before. Fish oil never did anything to relieve my WD symptoms. Truthfully, I spent tons of money and nothing alleviated the anxiety or depression except cal/mag citrate.

 

Alot of us can't take supplements due to sensitivity from the aftermath of drug WD. I know I am better off leaving it all alone.

 

I think you are saying that you now have mania and depression? Goose each time I withdrew from something I reached a saturation point in the WD process in which I just couldn't stand the anxiety, depression and the crazies, so I went onto something else. My choices weren't bad choices. I took Lexapro to get off Paxil. I took Imipramine when I got down to 10mgs. Lexapro and now I am on Celexa.

 

I have tried to get off Celexa twice and I just couldn't do it again. I have considered reintroducing Imipramine down the road if things get hairy during a Celexa taper. This is me. Do I wish I were drug free.....Yep....we all do.

 

My point is that if you do decide to take something else, carefully research it. There are so many blogs for every medication out there. Please don't ever take Effexor, go back on Paxil or Cymbalta, take Seroquel or Mirtazapine. These are murder to get off of.

 

Best Regards,

Nikki

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at Pharmacies GSK halted deliveries

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Lexapro is a very strong antidepressant, and it can be activating (cause anxiety, agitation), etc.

 

Celexa, which comes in a liquid, is less so. Please consider this.

 

However, no antidepressant can fix withdrawal-induced hypersensitivity. It's a tossup whether you'd be able to tolerate any of them, or if going on one might make you worse.

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Goose, I have to admit I'm totally confused.

 

From what I understand from your earlier posts, you got off SSRIs and were fine except considerably later you developed some medical problems. You tried numerous antidepressants for this new (medical) problem and had bad reactions to all of them, including apparently possibly dangerous reactions (cardiac, mania) etc. and increasing sensitivities you believe to be caused by having taken SSRIs.

 

Why are you thinking of exposing your body to another one?

 

It sounds like the problems you're now trying to address are medical issues (possibly not yet or maybe incorrectly diagnosed) or possibly increased sensitivities, which can last many years for some people who are predisposed to such problems (I am, for example) and which are worsened the more you confront your body with meds and supplements.

 

Am I missing something? (Not being sarcastic in any way, just really confused and concerned.)

I was "TryingToGetWell" (aka TTGW) on paxilprogress. I also was one of the original members here on Surviving Antidepressants

 

I had horrific and protracted withdrawal from paxil, but now am back to enjoying life with enthusiasm to the max, some residual physical symptoms continued but largely improve. The horror, severe derealization, anhedonia, akathisia, and so much more, are long over.

 

My signature is a temporary scribble from year 2013. I'll rewrite it when I can.

 

If you want to read it, click on http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/209-brandy-anyone/?p=110343

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Brandy

Thanks for the reply Im confused also Im trying to find the bestvway to deal with this You make some valid points Are you saying that my condition/symptoms are not ssri withdrawl Should i be looking at other things? Thanks

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Hello all,

 

I forgot that I actually am taking Buspar for the extreme anxiety/ Mania I am experiencing. Does anybody have any experience with Buspar. I feel I should probably get off as I believe this works on Serotonin also, although I dont know exactly how. I think it is helping me but i a concerened about the long term effects and w/d from it. I am so confused! Not sure which way to go! Thanks so much for all responses.

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Goose, I moved your new post here. Only one topic to a customer in the Intro forum.

 

Has the Buspar done any good for you?

 

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Goose, I have to admit I'm totally confused.

 

From what I understand from your earlier posts, you got off SSRIs and were fine except considerably later you developed some medical problems. You tried numerous antidepressants for this new (medical) problem and had bad reactions to all of them, including apparently possibly dangerous reactions (cardiac, mania) etc. and increasing sensitivities you believe to be caused by having taken SSRIs.

 

Why are you thinking of exposing your body to another one?

 

It sounds like the problems you're now trying to address are medical issues (possibly not yet or maybe incorrectly diagnosed) or possibly increased sensitivities, which can last many years for some people who are predisposed to such problems (I am, for example) and which are worsened the more you confront your body with meds and supplements.

 

Am I missing something? (Not being sarcastic in any way, just really confused and concerned.)

 

 

Brandy

Thanks for the reply Im confused also Im trying to find the bestvway to deal with this You make some valid points Are you saying that my condition/symptoms are not ssri withdrawl Should i be looking at other things? Thanks

 

Goose, I'm so sorry I just happened onto your last reply (with question) so late, and by chance. (I was actually searching for another post.)

 

For some reason, the notifications I get by email don't include all threads I'm subscribed to, and often arrive in my email inbox garbled and incomplete. So I probably miss a lot of posts on threads I posted on or subscribed to out of interest in the topic. Don't know what to do about that.

 

I did not mean to ignore your question, and I think I didn't make myself clear.

 

I was not in any way suggesting that your condition or symptoms were not due to SSRI withdrawal or that I felt you had other medical problems.

 

I was simply referring to the medical conditions you discussed in your first post that you have already been diagnosed with.

I was "TryingToGetWell" (aka TTGW) on paxilprogress. I also was one of the original members here on Surviving Antidepressants

 

I had horrific and protracted withdrawal from paxil, but now am back to enjoying life with enthusiasm to the max, some residual physical symptoms continued but largely improve. The horror, severe derealization, anhedonia, akathisia, and so much more, are long over.

 

My signature is a temporary scribble from year 2013. I'll rewrite it when I can.

 

If you want to read it, click on http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/209-brandy-anyone/?p=110343

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Hello everyone,

 

My mornings are becoming very bad! I go to bed at around 9:30pm and always wake up at 3AM a little shaky. I get up and eat something small which seems to help and try and go back to sleep. Sometimes I can fall back asleep sometimes I can't.

 

Whether I fall back asleep or not, at 6AM I get a huge rush of what I am assuming is Cortisol. I am then forced to get up because it drives me crazy.

 

I get up and have breakfast and take a couple supplements and I start to feel a tiny bit better.

 

As the day goes on I experience shakiness, shortness of breath and fatigue, but as 4pm to 5pm comes around I start to feel more normal and calm. It seems as though my adrenal glands poop out!

 

Is this anyone elses experience? Is there a particular reason for this happening this way? Aslong as I can get thru the mornings

I am ok so far, but the mornings are terrible!! Thanks in advance for your comments!

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Hi Goose

 

I have posted so many times about tolerable morning anxiety & what you are having which I call Adrenaline/Cortisol Dumps or Bangs which I've come to understand is a chemical reaction not an emotional issue.

 

I had it very bad recently as a result of drug interactions. It finally stopped, but by that point I had made a decision to add Imipramine back into the mix to stop AM anxiety.

 

Keeping the morning sun out of the bedroom is what has been suggested. The members & the Psych RN have told me that the body turns on it's cortisol production at about 4:30am or thereabouts.

Artificial lighting can exacerbate this.

 

Adrenaline Dumps can cause day long exhaustion which can actually trigger more anxiety.

 

If you are tapering an AD, this, unfortunately is a WD symptom. When you get up at about 3am, can you jump into the shower? It helps a great deal.

 

 

Calcium/Magnesium Citrate helped me to stop anxiety when I was WDing from Lexapro.

 

There are alot of members here who should drop by shortly with more assistance.

 

Hugs

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Paxil 1997-2004

Crossed over to Lexapro Paxil not available

at Pharmacies GSK halted deliveries

Lexapro 40mgs

Lexapro taper (2years)

Imipramine

Imipramine and Celexa

Now Nefazadone/Imipramine 50mgs. each

45mgs. Serzone  50mgs. Imipramine

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EXACTLY. My morning anxiety has abated, but I still have extreme dread and doom upon awakening. I used to think this was "depression" but now realize I was experiencing withdrawal from many drug switches and CTs over the years. I feel like a completely different person in the afternoon and evening. My husband has asked me "what's up? You were DYING this morning and now you're fine..?" Cortisol surges (normal in early morning but exaggerated in withdrawal) are very powerful. You'll find alot of good info on this site about how to best handle.

 

Very glad you found your way here.

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Goose, people with morning anxiety often do better if they block out the morning light with blackout curtains and shades and use a sleep mask. See these topics about sleep problems, which are very common in withdrawal http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/604-important-topics-about-symptoms-including-sleep-problems/

 

Please add to this topic rather than starting a new topic in the Intro forum. Only one topic per person in the Intro forum.

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Hello

I cant figure out how to post correctly, sorry Alto Please help! Havent slept in forever! Nervous system so sensitive! Exhausted and vomitting from adrenaline rushes! Is there anything I can do? I have rode it out as long as I can! I cN barely type this! I have heard you cN tKe miniscule amount of ssri And it may calm nerves? Will that work? What do you do after that? My heart rate is at 108 while resting! May have to go to psych ward but they will want to give me strong meds! Help Thanks!

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You posted correctly. For nausea, my family has always used Ipecacuanha 30C. We use it for all kinds of nausea from car sickness to my chronic nausea I've had for a few years. I'd be lost without it. I stopped refilling my Zofran and just started only using Icpecacuanha. Only buy it in Homeopathy, from a health food store.

 

Ginger is good for nausea as well. But for me, the capsules don't work as good as either the Crystallized Ginger or the Ginger Tea.

 

Zofran is a prescription for nausea and I took it fine while in withdrawals. But it can cause headaches.

 

Have you tried meditation and breathing exercises for anxiety? I also use Homeopathy Stramonium for the anxiety.

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Hi Goose

 

I have moved your post to your intro thread so that we can keep your history together and have a sense of your story as it unfolds. To find your intro thread go to our profile and it will have a link that says find my content, click that and find your intro, bring that up and add a reply to add your post

 

Onto your question at hand, are you taking any supplements now, do you have much caffeine, do you eat much sugar, have you tried he blackout curtains?

 

I'm looking at the things that might be stimulating and thus exacerbating your symptoms

 

Dalsaan

Please note - I am not a medical practitioner and I do not give medical advice. I offer an opinion based on my own experiences, reading and discussion with others.On Effexor for 2 months at the start of 2005. Had extreme insomnia as an adverse reaction. Changed to mirtazapine. Have been trying to get off since mid 2008 with numerous failures including CTs and slow (but not slow enough tapers)Have slow tapered at 10 per cent or less for years. I have liquid mirtazapine made at a compounding chemist.

Was on 1.6 ml as at 19 March 2014.

Dropped to 1.5 ml 7 June 2014. Dropped to 1.4 in about September.

Dropped to 1.3 on 20 December 2014. Dropped to 1.2 in mid Jan 2015.

Dropped to 1 ml in late Feb 2015. I think my old medication had run out of puff so I tried 1ml when I got the new stuff and it seems to be going ok. Sleep has been good over the last week (as of 13/3/15).

Dropped to 1/2 ml 14/11/15 Fatigue still there as are memory and cognition problems. Sleep is patchy but liveable compared to what it has been in the past.

 

DRUG FREE - as at 1st May 2017

 

>My intro post is here - http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2250-dalsaan

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How much burpar are you on. I don't know much about this drug but when I looked up the side effects they list the things you tell about - fast heart rate, nausea, insomnia etc. you could be having an adverse reaction to that

Please note - I am not a medical practitioner and I do not give medical advice. I offer an opinion based on my own experiences, reading and discussion with others.On Effexor for 2 months at the start of 2005. Had extreme insomnia as an adverse reaction. Changed to mirtazapine. Have been trying to get off since mid 2008 with numerous failures including CTs and slow (but not slow enough tapers)Have slow tapered at 10 per cent or less for years. I have liquid mirtazapine made at a compounding chemist.

Was on 1.6 ml as at 19 March 2014.

Dropped to 1.5 ml 7 June 2014. Dropped to 1.4 in about September.

Dropped to 1.3 on 20 December 2014. Dropped to 1.2 in mid Jan 2015.

Dropped to 1 ml in late Feb 2015. I think my old medication had run out of puff so I tried 1ml when I got the new stuff and it seems to be going ok. Sleep has been good over the last week (as of 13/3/15).

Dropped to 1/2 ml 14/11/15 Fatigue still there as are memory and cognition problems. Sleep is patchy but liveable compared to what it has been in the past.

 

DRUG FREE - as at 1st May 2017

 

>My intro post is here - http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2250-dalsaan

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Hello again, Goose. It does sound like you have nervous system hypersensitivity.

 

This might be because of your withdrawal back in 2008, plus things that have happened since then that stressed your nervous system more than it can handle, including the psychiatric drugs.

 

Yes, you could be having a hypersensitive reaction to Buspar after taking it awhile. Often we find it takes a bit for the sensitivity to develop, or become noticeable.

 

If I were you, I would not count on taking any psychiatric drugs to help your symptoms. Benzos are commonly used, but hypersensitive people can have problems with those, too.

 

What you might do is try to lessen your symptoms, one by one. Reducing light stimulation in the morning is only one way to help the sleep problem. See these topics http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/604-important-topics-about-symptoms-including-sleep-problems/ and others in the Symptoms and Self-Care forum.

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Many of us understand that only too well, Goose. It may take a while for the withdrawal insomnia to abate.

 

Please be patient. Many of us have found learning meditation techniques to be very helpful.

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Hi Goose..

 

I was unable to get off Paxil at all so I tapered off Paxil and tapered onto Lexapro, both ssri's. It worked.

 

I was feeling alot better, life was good, no worries, so I decided to get off Lexapro. Very difficult, but nothing like Paxil.

 

I have been practicing Meditation and it has helped. I have very little issues with Bruxism now. I can't seem to meditate on my own, so I listen to guided meditations at night while in bed. Very helpful. Deep relaxation.

 

I go to a Mindful Meditation class once a week. It is different than Healing or relaxing meditation.....they are all good.

 

You can go to Youbube and play a short meditation while you sit at the computer. Quick Fix.

 

Best regards

Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1902-nikki-hi-my-rundown-with-ads/

 

Paxil 1997-2004

Crossed over to Lexapro Paxil not available

at Pharmacies GSK halted deliveries

Lexapro 40mgs

Lexapro taper (2years)

Imipramine

Imipramine and Celexa

Now Nefazadone/Imipramine 50mgs. each

45mgs. Serzone  50mgs. Imipramine

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