Iggy131313 validation is imminent

[Iggy131313]

im really not sure whats gong on, this all started after reading my old journal, perhaps the stress got to me, althouh i cant discount the reaction as I was falling alseep last night, yesterday was a near perfact day again, cleaned loads and had a great evening, smoked way too much weed, perhaps it was that....i know everyone else would say its a no brainer and deffo the weed

 

maybe its where I am in my cycle...but the weed IS involved, thing is, Ive had a total whitey and it made me feel BETTER the next day not worse.....i really need to calm down I am completely frantic and not coping at all

[Muddles]

I'm sorry if I triggered anything with my random findings.

 

This will pass hunni - like it always does. ️

 

Here if you need me. Xxx

[Iggy131313]

hmm, I *did* eat a pot noodle, earlier, I thought it could be foolish, I think it was, packed full of msg, porob messed me up

 

Imhaving alot of the symptoms that scare me alot

 

pgad, which I havent had for ages, also the feeling that I need to screw my face up and twitch, and its all accompanied by severe terror, dread and inability to cope, I have so many sensations going on all the same time I just want to scream and beg for it to stop....each symtpom is very strong

 

I wish I could think if it could have been after eating the pot noodle, perhaps it was, but i had one the other day, but i cant tell if it messed me up or not...I cant remember.....and i cant remember if feeling this frnatic happened before or after i ate it, after, I think

 

but im terrified of the PGAD feelings....they are from hell, and im utterly distracted and agonised...yes, I read my journal, then I made my son a chhese sandwhich and I ate a pot noodle....it was after that

 

no more pot noodles

[Iggy131313]

hmmm, I wonder if nandos use MSG it sayd ,,no msg added'' to their PERI PERI sauces, not to any of the food.....and it kinda makes sense to me that this is a very siilar reaction to then....

 

im thinking its the bloody pot noodle, what an ideiot I am

 

Just phoned boyfriend to tell him im having a rough time, hes in the pub, no sympathy there, at least it IS settling down a little bit and i no longer feel incapable of caring for freddie...that was bad there for a while

 

i had pshychotic feelings, severe terror and anxiety, nausea, DP, pgad....awful, just awful

 

its still there but now I feel I understand it has calmed me some, Im about to have a bath and see if i can relax..then I will continue playing with freddie

[Iggy131313]

right well it was deffo nandos and this is the pot noodle, it has to be, i was doing ok until that.....it reminds me so much of how I was that day i ate nandos

 

I looked on the nandos site and it sayd NO ADDED MSG...but then I saw this

 

One of industry’s favorite ways of hiding MSG is to claim that there is "no added MSG" in a product.  If an ingredient that contains MSG such as yeast extract is used in a product instead of “monosodium glutamate”, the manufacture may make the statement that the product has “no added MSG”. If MSG is processed into a product instead of being poured into a product, the manufacturer may declare that there is "no MSG added" or "no added MSG," in the product, even though the manufacturer knows full well that the product contains MSG.

[Fizz]

Gutted for you Iggy about today. I wouldn't touch pot noodle with a barge pole, there's that many additives I would be hanging from the ceiling. It used to be my favourite snack. Hope it carries on easing off for you. Xxxxxxxxxx

[Iggy131313]

thanks muddles and fizz...for thinking of me

 

im about the same, some symptoms settled down but PGAD quite bad right now...Ive always thought PGAD was something to do with norepinephrine, i cant remember WHY lol

 

but this is what I just found

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11383554

 

pgad is a discusting symptom, it makes me feel filthy, im in no way mnetally aroused, but its akathisia in the genitalks and its constant...imagine playing with your child in this state....it makes me feel ashamed even though its not my fault and I shouldnt....that makes no difference

 

managed to play a few more levels on the xbox and NOW getting in the bath, hoping the pgad will settle down..at least its all taken my mind of the TD stuff...jesus

[Muddles]

So sorry - hang on in there!

 

By the way - I think you were possibly on to something. I spoke with a guy who is suffers emf and studies it. He sent me this:

 

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Could Myelin Damage From Radiofrequency Electromagnetic Field Exposure Help Explain the Functional Impairment Electrohypersensitivity? A Review of the Evidence

 

Mary Redmayne & Olle Johansson

 

Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health, Part B: Critical Reviews, 17:5, 247-258, DOI: 10.1080/10937404.2014.923356

 

Myelin provides the electrical insulation for the central and peripheral nervous system and develops rapidly in the first years of life, but continues into mid-life or later.

 

Myelin integrity is vital to healthy nervous system development and functioning. This review outlines the development of myelin through life, and then considers the evidence for an association between myelin integrity and exposure to low-intensity radiofrequency electromagnetic fields (RF-EMFs) typical in the modern world.

 

In RF-EMF peer-reviewed literature examining relevant impacts such as myelin sheath, multiple sclerosis, and other myelin-related diseases, cellular examination was included. There are surprisingly little data available in each area, but considered together a picture begins to emerge in RF-EMF-exposed cases:

 

(1) significant morphological lesions in the myelin sheath of rats;

(2) a greater risk of multiple sclerosis in a study subgroup;

(3) effects in proteins related to myelin production; and

(4) physical symptoms in individuals with functional impairment electrohypersensitivity, many of which are the same as if myelin were affected by RF-EMF exposure, giving rise to symptoms of demyelination.

 

In the latter, there are exceptions; headache is common only in electrohypersensitivity, while ataxia is typical of demyelination but infrequently found in the former group.

 

Overall, evidence from in vivo and in vitro and epidemiological studies suggests an association between RF-EMF exposure and either myelin deterioration or a direct impact on neuronal conduction, which may account for many electrohypersensitivity symptoms. The most vulnerable are likely to be those in utero through to at least mid-teen years, as well as ill and elderly individuals.

 

http://www.avaate.org/IMG/pdf/redmayne_johansson_2014.pdf

[Muddles]

I had nandos months ago thinking I would be fine - wrong! Severe brain fog and headache!

 

Get some broth down your neck. Seriously though, thinkong of you.

[Altostrata]

Iggy, take your research to your own blog. This is your last verbal warning.

[Iggy131313]

I didnt post ANYTHING about research...I stopped, I repected what you said....thats was someone else posting on my thread!

[Iggy131313]

and Muddles is refering to a post of mine on a different forum 2 years ago that she read today.....

[Muddles]

Sorry - my fault. I'll shut up.

[Altostrata]

Please note that arguing with the staff can get you a warning point.

[btdt]

As for MSG this site does extensive work on it. 

http://www.msgtruth.org/

 

March 5,2010, The FDA has just issued recalls of foods with Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein (HVP) in them due to salmonella contamination. HVP is the ingredient added to processed foods so that they can get what is called a "clean label"  and the manufacturer does not have to label them as containing MSG. If you would like to avoid MSG, you should avoid all foods that are listed by the FDA as containing HVP, because HVP contains roughly 20% free glutamic acid (the "clean label" version of MSG) by weight. 

 

I know MSG is an issue for me. I found this site long ago however if I have this right and your the person who was made worse by Advil ...it is confusing...

 

"The good news is, while the pharmaceutical makers are giddily calculating how much money can be made by the sale of prescription drugs to block glutamate, an inexpensive glutamate blocker is already widely available over the counter and has been for years.  It is called Advil.  This may explain why children given glutamate-blocking Advil instead of Tylenol at vaccination were LESS LIKELY to develop autism in the first place.:  same page 

 

for a  long time I took one lowest dose advil each morning.. to help with brain fog head ache there was not being civil the first few hours of the am... I would take off out of the house if anyone else were home or stay in my room. 

 

here is a chart of how MSG affects health at one point I was going to print this put it on the wall and study it but never did likely had a wave and forgot about it

http://www.msgtruth.org/NEWUNIFIEDTHEORY.pdf

[Altostrata]

Yep, this topic has become a locus of nonsense.

[justwanttobefree]

Alto why on earth haven't you banned her yet? It's ridiculous. Smoking pot, drinking, and ranting with no proof or basis. You're not God Iggy. None of us are. This is all one big guessing game. Give it up already.

[Altostrata]

justwanttobefree, please skip this topic if it upsets you.

[mattage]

Sooo...let me get this right......Pot Noodle bad......hallucinogenic drugs good? 

[btdt]

We do not have the right to tell anyone how to live their lives at the end of the day whatever else we do or do not have in common we are all humans who have taken a drug that changed us... how this has changed us is not the same for everyone I would hope there is room for all.  Many people have taken illegal drugs and drank a lot of booze after being on these drugs.  

I am sure there are a lot of people who smoke pot it is actually legal in one state in the USA.. don't recall which one.  It is a very popular illegal drug some say as popular as booze just not legal every place.  I am sure there are a lot of people who take Ads also use pot as both are so popular how could there not be... this is a support place and a learning place others who come after may learn something here.  

I for one hope they do the kids of today are going to be having both drugs to deal with and no guidelines .. this could be a start.  I don't for a minute think Iggy is the only one in this situation. 

There is an ignore button I still choose to read her thread nobody has to read it. 

[LoveandLight]

Everyone here is going through enough without sniping at each other..do you not think?

[mattage]

We do not have the right to tell anyone how to live their lives at the end of the day

 

 

Isn't this a way of telling us how to live our lives (by telling us what we don't have the right do??). If so, by your own logic, you have no right to say it!

[btdt]

You know what I am not going to engage in this with you... I wish you well... peace to you

[mattage]

You know what I am not going to engage in this with you... I wish you well... peace to you

 

Wa-Alaikum-Salaam x

[Iggy131313]

ok, I can take a hint....this has all given me another setback.....Ill go away, I cant get banned, this is the only place left for me to come

 

I apologise for any distress I have caused anyone...although I have never been cruel or tried to hurt anyone, Ive never directed abusive, snide or nasty comments at anyone and im an open book....I have never hidden anything...I spoke with a guy for 2 years for support, he was still very sick after 10 years....only after 2 years did it come out he was using another med.....i wouldnt do that, I admit to everything, right or wrong, and I accept that there will be kick back for that

 

I have only tried to help, both in reseach and in reaching out, I have been gentle and supportive to many people.

 

Im a real person, a young frightened mother desperatly chasing relief, i wasnt prepared for this, no one was, and if anyone knew how much I suffered.....anyway

 

mattage - yes pot noodle bad, cannabis helpful, thats the difference between dopamine and glutamate

 

anyway, Ill go...Ive apologised

[Iggy131313]

I leave with a new set of symptoms..I understand why this ishappening, but Im not allowed to say

 

I now have TD and PGAD...

 

The TD is terrifying me, i look in the mirror and although you can see the movements its not MASSIVVELY noticable...if it gets any worse im in big trouble.....the PGAD is also severe...

 

Ive been here before, although the TD is far worse than Ive ever had it before...I would usually only get the URGE to move my face, like a bunny nose, this time Im having involuntary movements of my jaw, muscle spams in my lower face and the twitching of my nose happens by itself.....very very scary

 

maybe by the time i come back here I would have progressed some, at least the aka is gone for now...bye everyone, I wish only peace and relief for everyone here, HOWEVER they find it, and whatever methods they use to cope....be kind and gentle with those suffering, even if they scare you...thankyou to btdt who has been the only person to support e openly, and thankyou to the others who have done so in private...it means alot, i feel extremely alone.

 

bye

[AliG]

  Good luck, Iggy. I wish the best for you, sincerely.  I know we had our differences, but I think it was all " withdrawal". I hope you find what you're looking for, and I appreciate your research. Unfortunately, I think it's beyond , this site.    Wishing you continued recovery.   Please let us know , how you're going. 

[LoveandLight]

Peace to you xx

[WinningThrough]

Good luck Iggy. It will get better, all of it. X

[Muddles]

I personally have found the info you have supplied very interesting. I can't just sit around all day hoping to die every minute. A lot of what We have spoke about makes sense....not proven, no....but what are we to do? Why is it a crime to want to know and find out more about this situation?

 

Weed and booze stopped your akathisia - jeez....wouldn't everyone on this board do the same to escape the worst feeling in the world to save themselves from possible death? Even if it gave them a year of peace?

 

I don't understand - if people don't like what they read here - why read it? There are certain threads I don't read on the board....it's that easy....just don't read it.

 

learning aNd researching what's happened to my brain and body is helping me overcome the trauma of this awful situation.

[btdt]

I have tried to pm you Iggy... what is up with the pms... if you don't want to post on here pms are a way around that to censor who you talk to or who talks to you.  I wish you peace whatever your doing with yourself. I hope you keep reading the threads that interest you. 

peace

[Altostrata]

No one is censoring Iggy, btdt. Please stop the rabble-rousing.

[Tilly]

I perceive that the moderators here have been very fair and lenient with Iggy. I developed a friendship with Iggy on another site, over a period of approximately a year of personal conversations and 'close friendship' (she does not recall me) where she received multiple warnings for the distress that she caused there to many members, including many of those who she befriended. 

 

I have empathy for Iggy as a woman in distress, in spite of the extremely personal attack that she made on me, which had no bearing on the original discussion and in itself was a breach of the ad hominem rule of this site.

 

However, there needs to be balance. 

 

Start up your blog, Caroline and disseminate your research findings there. You have a naturally enquiring mind. If research aids your recovery, pursue it. You will have a wide and supportive following, of this I have no doubt.

 

But please, do not post unsubstantiated, misleading suppositions here where vulnerable peers reside and seek sanctuary and advice at their lowest. This holds potentially dangerous consequences for others in need and suffering and is disrespectful to the intensive work that has become a vocation for Alto.

 

It also mirrors the abuse that we have all suffered at the hands of medical professionals who bombarded us with incomplete, unsubstantiated theories of chemical imbalance that we supposed must have credence as they spoke in a scientific, alien language that we were ill equipped to understand, let alone challenge. 

 

Maybe a period of time away to reflect and reconsider your position would be beneficial to you?

 

I would really not like to see you banned from another site as this is your last recourse for support. So treat it wisely and with the care that it repays you in information and personal support.

 

I held my tongue when you attacked me personally in a way that was hurtful. But will not hold my tongue when you have the potential of repeating the cycle of distress to vulnerable others and leaving a wake of destruction again.

 

You are very bright, Caroline. I truly believe that. Use your intelligence for the furthering of the position and good of yourself and others who share your distress. This would be the most constructive use of your talents that you can ever pursue.

 

A guiding phrase for us all here in our treatment of each other is the very one that our GPs were remiss in following, with disastrous consequences:

 

'First, do no harm'

 

I will bow out.

 

Prior to responding with vitriol, consider the wealth of information and support that you have acquired here. You often quoted Alto on the other site, long before I ever knew who she was. Is it worth losing all of this as a consequence of ego, knee jerk reaction and misplaced indignation?

 

I think not.

 

Use your intelligence for the good as it was intended.

 

As always,

 

I continue to wish you well in your recovery.

[bluebalu86]

Iggy, I'm sorry you're leaving - I'll miss you. Thank you for the advice you gave me a couple of weeks ago to be very careful and not to mess carelessly with my medication. I appreciate your research and efforts to find an answer to why we're suffering so much. I wish you all the best and please stop by to report on your progress. I wish you a complete recovery and I wish that only good things happen to you from now on. 

[btdt]

No one is censoring Iggy, btdt. Please stop the rabble-rousing.

ok I did not think anyone was censoring Iggy. 

She said she is taking some time out her choice ..from here.. my intent was while she is choosing to do so she could communicate with those she chose to in pm messages my previous pm to her resulted in a note back... I don't recall what kind but it did not work maybe she has pm turned off but she has since messaged me so I know they are working now. 

 I am suggesting that Iggy use Pms to choose to speak to whomever she wants ...period.  I am not sure how it got misconstrued but hope this clears it up

peace

[btdt]

I now know what rabble rousing means and I know that when i used the word censor people thought I meant site censor... I did not I meant it as a way for Iggy to censor who she talks to... as she chooses who she pms. 

I am learning something new every day.