Steve61 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Interesting article about Omega3 and related anxiety. https://academic.oup.com/omcr/article/2015/3/244/1448354 Quote Dosulepin 75 mgs per night since 1993. Dosulepin March 16 2018 75mgs and 50 mgs alternate nights. Dosulepin. March 30. 2018. 50 mgs per night Dosulepin. May 2. 2018. 50mgs and 25 mgs alternate nights Dosulepin. May 27 2018. 50 mgs per night ( increased ) Dosulepin. July 11 2018. 45 mgs per night Dosulepin. August 13 2018 40 mgs per night Dosulepin October 10 2018. 37.5 mgs per night Dosulepin. October. 24 2018. 35 mgs per night Dosulepin. December 5 2018. 32.5 mgs per night Dosulepin. January 2. 2018 30mgs per night February 14 2018 29 mgs per night Dosulepin February 27 28 mgs per night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavendertealatte Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I couldn't figure out if it was the fish oil or not. Still experiencing anxiety even off of it. My therapist and OB want to put me back on a medication .. different one .. for pregnancy and such. Don't know what to do. 29y.o. Started Lexapro, 15mg in 2013 for anxiety and depression. 9/28/15- Started taper, went down to 10mg, then 5mg by 10/31/15. 1/2016- anxiety, nausea, fatigue, crying spells, sadness, by January. Reinstated back to 10mg. Leveled out. 1/1/2018- Began further taper, down to 0mg by 1/31/2018. Last dose was 2.5mg. Feelings of dizziness during taper recommended by pdoc. Slowed down taper, but still had symptoms of stomach upset. 2/12/18 - Dealing with symptoms of dizziness, anxiety, sadness, stomach upset. 2/20/18 - Reinstating medication with .6mg. 2/21/18 - Emotionally feeling better. Dizziness much improved. 2/24/18 - Went to sleep with extreme feeling of chills. No fever. Fatigue. 3/19/18 - Increased anxiety. 5/1/18- Began therapy. Have trouble with anxiety and GI symptoms. 9/22/18 - Decrease to .5mg. Anxiety, GI, chills. 9/26/18 - back up to .6mg. 10/31/18 - app Curable, feeling distinct change in outlook and anxiety levels decreased. 2/1/19 - not seeing improvement in anxiety. started 10mg Prozac 2/7/19 - up to 20mg Prozac, experiencing chills, tiredness 2/21/19 - tapering down to 10mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve61 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 On 9/11/2018 at 6:36 PM, lavendertealatte said: I couldn't figure out if it was the fish oil or not. Still experiencing anxiety even off of it. My therapist and OB want to put me back on a medication .. different one .. for pregnancy and such. Don't know what to do. Yeah, feel the same about the fish oil. I’m still experiencing high anxiety and it’s over a week since I stopped thanking Omega3 . I’m not sure If it was just a coincidence that my anxiety really kicked in while on Omega3 or if it is related. Quote Dosulepin 75 mgs per night since 1993. Dosulepin March 16 2018 75mgs and 50 mgs alternate nights. Dosulepin. March 30. 2018. 50 mgs per night Dosulepin. May 2. 2018. 50mgs and 25 mgs alternate nights Dosulepin. May 27 2018. 50 mgs per night ( increased ) Dosulepin. July 11 2018. 45 mgs per night Dosulepin. August 13 2018 40 mgs per night Dosulepin October 10 2018. 37.5 mgs per night Dosulepin. October. 24 2018. 35 mgs per night Dosulepin. December 5 2018. 32.5 mgs per night Dosulepin. January 2. 2018 30mgs per night February 14 2018 29 mgs per night Dosulepin February 27 28 mgs per night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve61 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Well, I’m finally stabilising, yesterday and now today, feeling far calmer. Was it withdrawals or was it the Omega3 ? There were definitely some benefits while taking a Omega 3. Increased interest in sex was a really big plus. Increased energy overall but my anxiety was through the roof !!! Will try again some time in the future. Not just yet though. Steve Quote Dosulepin 75 mgs per night since 1993. Dosulepin March 16 2018 75mgs and 50 mgs alternate nights. Dosulepin. March 30. 2018. 50 mgs per night Dosulepin. May 2. 2018. 50mgs and 25 mgs alternate nights Dosulepin. May 27 2018. 50 mgs per night ( increased ) Dosulepin. July 11 2018. 45 mgs per night Dosulepin. August 13 2018 40 mgs per night Dosulepin October 10 2018. 37.5 mgs per night Dosulepin. October. 24 2018. 35 mgs per night Dosulepin. December 5 2018. 32.5 mgs per night Dosulepin. January 2. 2018 30mgs per night February 14 2018 29 mgs per night Dosulepin February 27 28 mgs per night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primekittycat Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Hi everyone, I've commented on fish oil previously and how it's helped with brain zaps, brain fog, and head buzzing. I was taking it very consistently for a few months (Nordic Naturals, about 2400 total EPA + DHA) and stopped about 4 days ago as I ran out. I'm leaving on an out of country trip soon and I take the liquid so I figured I'd just buy more once I'm back from my trip. Well, last night was not fun. I kept jerking in my sleep from the zaps and the insomnia was bad. I hadn't cut my dose but am having a rough time getting below where I am now (around 7 mg) and am trying to stabilize. Needless to say, I ran to the store right when they opened and bought more in pill form so I can have them now and on my trip. History: Began suffering from panic attacks when my father passed away in 2005. Been on and off SSRIs (Celexa, Lexapro, Effexor XR), and therapy since then. 2009 - Started Effexor XR 75mg. Consistent therapy starting Oct 2013 Feb 2014 - Therapist and I felt I was ready to come off Effexor - went to half dose (37.5mg) for a week and then off completely by advice of psychiatrist - bad w/d for a week then gone May 2014 - bad protracted w/d came out of nowhere.. constant dizziness, agoraphobia(never had before), intense headaches, fatigue for 3 months, all tests (brain MRI, inner ear tests, blood tests, etc.) normal. could not drive, grocery shop, or live life. Aug 2014 - back on Effexor XR 75mg as neurologist thought these symptoms were my anxiety coming back, all w/d symptoms disappear within 2 weeks. I should have went back on at a lower dose, but I hadn't discovered this site yet. I finally did discover this site, and gave myself a year to stabilize. July 2015 - Started tapering from 75mg. 5% cuts every 3 weeks. From July 2015 - March 2016, reduced to 37.5mg (half dose). In March 2017, down to 18.3mg (quarter dose). April 2020 - down to 0.38mg. Now: Finally med free as of Oct 31, 2020 after 5.5 years of tapering. Still med and withdrawal free, January 2023. ☀️ Supplements during tapering and now: Meditation, daily exercise, fish oil, clean diet, working from home (more sleep!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracee Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Hi @Altostrata, I have just placed an order for Norwegian Gold Fish Oil. Are you familiar with this brand? It was recommended in a very early post on this thread. I need a brand that is burp-free, easy on the digestion. Are there other types you could recommend.? I have been taking flax seed oil for years because of sensitivity to fish oil, but not sure if it is effective. Huge thanks for helping. G. Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted February 2, 2019 Author Administrator Share Posted February 2, 2019 I don't know, Gracee. I get Trader Joe's or NOW Foods fish oil myself. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracee Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Altostrata said: I don't know, Gracee. I get Trader Joe's or NOW Foods fish oil myself. OK. thanks anyway. Maybe someone else has an answer? Hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg, Multi vit., Calcium, D3, Magnesium, Fish Oil, Melatonin, Ambien 3.3 mg 1 or 2X/mo. Benadryl-seldom, .......2002 - eliminated alcohol 2002- Paxil - 20 mg (3 WD attempts: 2005, 2008, 2010) 2011 - 30 mg 2018 - 40 mg- Sept to Nov} {Dec - 37.5} Jan 2, 2019 - 35 mg Jan 11 - 33.75 mg Jan 28 - 32.5 mg Feb 4 - 33.75 mg Mar 4 - 32 mg Mar 30 - 30 mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellbutrinsucks Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 @Altostrata My Omega-3 supplements have mixed tocopherols. Do you think it would be a good idea or necessary to supplement that with Vitamin E? Or is the amount I’d get in the Omega-3 supplement sufficient? March 2016: Strattera June 2016: Nothing October 2016-April 2017:Wellbutrin SR Mid-March 2017-March 2017 Adderall (9 days) April 2017: Wellbutrin and Ritalin (7 days) Mid-April to mid-June: nothing early June 2017: Wellbutrin XL mid-June 2017: Wellbutrin XL, Adderall, and Hydrochlorothiazide (blood pressure); took for two days Late August: Allegra for two days, then Propranolol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted February 6, 2019 Author Administrator Share Posted February 6, 2019 Read the label. If your omega-3 supplements contain 400iu mixed tocopherols, you do not have to take additional vitamin E. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellbutrinsucks Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 It doesn’t say how much Vitamin E is in it, only the ratio of EPA/DHA. March 2016: Strattera June 2016: Nothing October 2016-April 2017:Wellbutrin SR Mid-March 2017-March 2017 Adderall (9 days) April 2017: Wellbutrin and Ritalin (7 days) Mid-April to mid-June: nothing early June 2017: Wellbutrin XL mid-June 2017: Wellbutrin XL, Adderall, and Hydrochlorothiazide (blood pressure); took for two days Late August: Allegra for two days, then Propranolol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leean Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 If on zoloft 50 mg and tapering off buspar these being blood thinner is it ok to take the fish oil also a blood thinner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyE Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Hi I'm new to this site and would like to thank the community for sharing your helpful stories and tips. I'm from the UK and have been taking 1320mg epa + dha per day (2x660mg) I now realise l need to double this to meet your suggested recommendation. I also need to add in the vitamin E and am looking to start magnesium for anxiety, as per your advice. Please will someone help me work out the best way to introduce the extra supplements. I also wonder whether 3 x omega 3 supplements (1980mg epa + dha) per day may be enough with the additional 400IU vitamin E. MissyE. MissyE 2008 Dec-Feb 2009 GP diazipam; Dec-Jun 2009 fluoxetine. 2010 Jan citalopram approx 4 weeks, Jan- Aug fluox, Oct-Jun 2011 paroxetine; Aug - Dec venlafaxine 37.5mg - 75mg. 2012 Mar-Jul reinstate ven 150mg; Aug swap to fluox 40mg (preg) - Mar 2013 reinstate ven 150mg. 2015 Nov swap to fluox 40mg (preg) Dec suicidal reinstated ven 300mg 2018 Jan ven "pooped" buspirone added/stopped; pentagablin added; March pent stopped & ven taper - 0 June; August betablockers started/ stopped; September mirtazapine 15mg and diazepam 2mg started/stopped; October ven 300mg reinstated. 2019 Jan psychiatrist added mirt 15mg (aiming for "California rocket fuel" therapeutic dose). No more meds: gradual taper mirt Feb-April (taken for < 3 weeks). Commenced ven taper 5-10% 6-10 weekly 2019 April - Nov: 225mg. Tapering 8 weekly in alignment with menstrual cycle 2020 Jan 212.5mg; Mar 200mg; Jun 187.5mg hold Oct all meds stopped sectioned under mental health act psychosis olanzapine 20mg PRN lorazepam Dec 600mg lithium 15mg olanzapine 1-2g omega 3 & 400ug folic acid 2 puffs pulmicort inhaler. This too shall pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcoastgirl Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Does anyone know of a fish oil that is not flavoured with lemon or citrus? I cannot have this with histamine intolerance. Just checked my old bottle and it has natural lemon flavouring i'm not sure if i'd react but want to be cautious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator brassmonkey Posted June 17, 2019 Moderator Share Posted June 17, 2019 You might try Flax seed oil. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabe Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Hi Kmart...I too cannot have citrus...and so many things have lemon juice or something else in them. I am looking into omega 3 oil as well..seems they all have something else in them and also oxidation can be a problem. I seem to have problems with flax as well. I know grass fed dairy and meats and eggs are good, and fish of course, and walnuts and some veggies. Ill let you know if I find a pure Omega 3 that is good. Otherwise as Brass said the flax is great. I have a grinder and have ground it up in the past and sprinkled it on food. Take care! -Nardil 1976 < year, stopped. React to AD's. Klonopin .5BID 1990, 2.5mg til 2016 -Klonopin doubled Jan '16. Taper to 2.25mg May to Nov '16. Bad react to Lexapro, stop. React to Prevacid too, taper off. -November '16 Tapered .25mg Klonopin in hospital. Jan '17 started Viibryd, 20mg from Feb to June '17, -20mg to 10mg Viibryd from 3/25 to 6/10 2017, 12/15 10% Viibryd taper...back up next day -Clonazepam 2mg to 1.85mg 4/14 '17 to end November; taper to 1mg Clonazepam in hospital 9/1 tp 9/14 '17 -Feb '18 Amiloride .25mg 5/18 off Amiloride d/t react. Clonaz compounded -4/27 '18 Viibryd 9.5mg, 6/11 9.0 mg, 1/27 '19 Viibryd 8.75mg, ; Clonazepam .2mg 530pm and .7mg 1130pm, Premarin .3mg 830PM CARAFATE QID 2/27/19 to 3/5/19 -July 6'19 1/2 10mg Claritin 230pm, stopped it about July 18, started Oct 11 '19, -7/27 Viibryd 8.5, 8/29 8.25, 10/24 8.0, 12/19 7.75, Feb '20 7.50, 3/20 7.25, 5/20 7.0, 6/20 6.75, 7/20 6.5, 8/20 6.25, 10/2 20 6.0, 11/25'20 5.75, 1/9/21 5.5, 2/23 5.25 -1015 AM Viibryd, vit D 4,000IU 130, 415 Clonazepam .2mg, 815 Premarin .3mg, 1015 Clonaz .7mg, 1115 3t fish oil+D 1145 Castor Oil 650mg(4) 1230 Carafate 1/2GM,Methylated B Vit 1/week,Reacted Mag prn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyE Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 I started taking Omega 3 (1000mg with 660mg epa + dpa) and have gradually worked up to 3 per day (3000mg with 1980mg epa + dpa) plus 400iu vitamin E. I'm aiming to reach 3000mg epa + dpa. I am following SA advice. Thank you. Initially l didn't feel anything, but now l notice feeling calmer and more hopeful since increasing my dose and added in vitamin E. I still have a long, long way to go, but the morning terror and frozen dread has reduced to feeling anxious combined with a lack of motivation. I'm also managing much better at keeping up with my other non-drug healing techniques. I have now found some 750mg epa + dpa in 1000mg omega 3 capsules, which l aim to move over to. I'm in the UK and use simply supplements online. Unfortunately their vitamin E isn't natural so l get that elsewhere. Do you recommend spreading the capsules throughout the day or taking all at once? Or is it personal tolerance? I currently have one in the morning with my venlafaxine and vit E; one at lunch; and one at evening meal with my 2nd dose of ven. Hope today is going ok. Love, peace, namaste MissyE MissyE 2008 Dec-Feb 2009 GP diazipam; Dec-Jun 2009 fluoxetine. 2010 Jan citalopram approx 4 weeks, Jan- Aug fluox, Oct-Jun 2011 paroxetine; Aug - Dec venlafaxine 37.5mg - 75mg. 2012 Mar-Jul reinstate ven 150mg; Aug swap to fluox 40mg (preg) - Mar 2013 reinstate ven 150mg. 2015 Nov swap to fluox 40mg (preg) Dec suicidal reinstated ven 300mg 2018 Jan ven "pooped" buspirone added/stopped; pentagablin added; March pent stopped & ven taper - 0 June; August betablockers started/ stopped; September mirtazapine 15mg and diazepam 2mg started/stopped; October ven 300mg reinstated. 2019 Jan psychiatrist added mirt 15mg (aiming for "California rocket fuel" therapeutic dose). No more meds: gradual taper mirt Feb-April (taken for < 3 weeks). Commenced ven taper 5-10% 6-10 weekly 2019 April - Nov: 225mg. Tapering 8 weekly in alignment with menstrual cycle 2020 Jan 212.5mg; Mar 200mg; Jun 187.5mg hold Oct all meds stopped sectioned under mental health act psychosis olanzapine 20mg PRN lorazepam Dec 600mg lithium 15mg olanzapine 1-2g omega 3 & 400ug folic acid 2 puffs pulmicort inhaler. This too shall pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabe Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 Can I ask what kin you found? Are they more natural. I have been looking and am wondering. Thank you MissyE...so good to hear it helps!!💜 -Nardil 1976 < year, stopped. React to AD's. Klonopin .5BID 1990, 2.5mg til 2016 -Klonopin doubled Jan '16. Taper to 2.25mg May to Nov '16. Bad react to Lexapro, stop. React to Prevacid too, taper off. -November '16 Tapered .25mg Klonopin in hospital. Jan '17 started Viibryd, 20mg from Feb to June '17, -20mg to 10mg Viibryd from 3/25 to 6/10 2017, 12/15 10% Viibryd taper...back up next day -Clonazepam 2mg to 1.85mg 4/14 '17 to end November; taper to 1mg Clonazepam in hospital 9/1 tp 9/14 '17 -Feb '18 Amiloride .25mg 5/18 off Amiloride d/t react. Clonaz compounded -4/27 '18 Viibryd 9.5mg, 6/11 9.0 mg, 1/27 '19 Viibryd 8.75mg, ; Clonazepam .2mg 530pm and .7mg 1130pm, Premarin .3mg 830PM CARAFATE QID 2/27/19 to 3/5/19 -July 6'19 1/2 10mg Claritin 230pm, stopped it about July 18, started Oct 11 '19, -7/27 Viibryd 8.5, 8/29 8.25, 10/24 8.0, 12/19 7.75, Feb '20 7.50, 3/20 7.25, 5/20 7.0, 6/20 6.75, 7/20 6.5, 8/20 6.25, 10/2 20 6.0, 11/25'20 5.75, 1/9/21 5.5, 2/23 5.25 -1015 AM Viibryd, vit D 4,000IU 130, 415 Clonazepam .2mg, 815 Premarin .3mg, 1015 Clonaz .7mg, 1115 3t fish oil+D 1145 Castor Oil 650mg(4) 1230 Carafate 1/2GM,Methylated B Vit 1/week,Reacted Mag prn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyE Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Hi Rabe, I'm always glad to share positive findings. The omega 3s tick all the boxes in SA recommendations. They are from simply supplements, you can google it. Triple strength 550mg* epa + dha in 1000mg. I plan to buy the highest strength 750mg epa + dha in 1000mg, once these are finished. The price is good for the quality (Simply supplements vitamin E doesn't meet the criteria though). *I said 660mg in previous post(s), apologies. My poor brain... It's like it's been highjacked and turned to mush.... 🙄 I will endeavour to correct this error. Hope this helps and you're feeling ok today. l had really bad start but l'll update my thread about that. Alto, (or other experienced person) do you recommend taking all at once or spread out through the day? Is it best to post everything through my own thread or on the actual subject thread... Eg if l have a specific finding or question like here with Omega 3 on the Omega 3 thread? Thanks, Missy x MissyE 2008 Dec-Feb 2009 GP diazipam; Dec-Jun 2009 fluoxetine. 2010 Jan citalopram approx 4 weeks, Jan- Aug fluox, Oct-Jun 2011 paroxetine; Aug - Dec venlafaxine 37.5mg - 75mg. 2012 Mar-Jul reinstate ven 150mg; Aug swap to fluox 40mg (preg) - Mar 2013 reinstate ven 150mg. 2015 Nov swap to fluox 40mg (preg) Dec suicidal reinstated ven 300mg 2018 Jan ven "pooped" buspirone added/stopped; pentagablin added; March pent stopped & ven taper - 0 June; August betablockers started/ stopped; September mirtazapine 15mg and diazepam 2mg started/stopped; October ven 300mg reinstated. 2019 Jan psychiatrist added mirt 15mg (aiming for "California rocket fuel" therapeutic dose). No more meds: gradual taper mirt Feb-April (taken for < 3 weeks). Commenced ven taper 5-10% 6-10 weekly 2019 April - Nov: 225mg. Tapering 8 weekly in alignment with menstrual cycle 2020 Jan 212.5mg; Mar 200mg; Jun 187.5mg hold Oct all meds stopped sectioned under mental health act psychosis olanzapine 20mg PRN lorazepam Dec 600mg lithium 15mg olanzapine 1-2g omega 3 & 400ug folic acid 2 puffs pulmicort inhaler. This too shall pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyE Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) Correction it's 550mg epa + dha not 660mg I meant to add this to the incorrect post(s). Please help. Edited July 4, 2019 by MissyE Didn't work MissyE 2008 Dec-Feb 2009 GP diazipam; Dec-Jun 2009 fluoxetine. 2010 Jan citalopram approx 4 weeks, Jan- Aug fluox, Oct-Jun 2011 paroxetine; Aug - Dec venlafaxine 37.5mg - 75mg. 2012 Mar-Jul reinstate ven 150mg; Aug swap to fluox 40mg (preg) - Mar 2013 reinstate ven 150mg. 2015 Nov swap to fluox 40mg (preg) Dec suicidal reinstated ven 300mg 2018 Jan ven "pooped" buspirone added/stopped; pentagablin added; March pent stopped & ven taper - 0 June; August betablockers started/ stopped; September mirtazapine 15mg and diazepam 2mg started/stopped; October ven 300mg reinstated. 2019 Jan psychiatrist added mirt 15mg (aiming for "California rocket fuel" therapeutic dose). No more meds: gradual taper mirt Feb-April (taken for < 3 weeks). Commenced ven taper 5-10% 6-10 weekly 2019 April - Nov: 225mg. Tapering 8 weekly in alignment with menstrual cycle 2020 Jan 212.5mg; Mar 200mg; Jun 187.5mg hold Oct all meds stopped sectioned under mental health act psychosis olanzapine 20mg PRN lorazepam Dec 600mg lithium 15mg olanzapine 1-2g omega 3 & 400ug folic acid 2 puffs pulmicort inhaler. This too shall pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 is it crazy to take 6 grams fish oil a day or even 8? its the only dose that seems to make an immediate difference for me, and i dont have side effects, anything less and i feel nothing, but at about 7 to 8 grams i start feeling significantly relaxed and sleepy and like my body is "repairing" , especially in the gut region Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus apace41 Posted July 30, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Ryguy said: is it crazy to take 6 grams fish oil a day or even 8? its the only dose that seems to make an immediate difference for me, and i dont have side effects, anything less and i feel nothing, but at about 7 to 8 grams i start feeling significantly relaxed and sleepy and like my body is "repairing" , especially in the gut region Nobody can tell you what will work for you, Ryguy, but there IS science out there supporting high levels of omega 3s and brain repair after TBI. Here's a link to one example: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23363551 If you want to hear a story that supports this listen to JJ Virgin talk about her son who was hit by a car and was given mega Omega 3 as part of his recovery program. It's not without controversy, but you are not off the wall to think it might help. Best, Andy Sertraline 50mg and Clonazapam .375mg from 2000 -- symptoms of dizziness Spring 2012 increased to .5 Clonazapam and 100mg Sertraline -- no improvement Benzo microtaper from November 2012 to November 2014 (followed benzo sites "taper benzo first") Started Sertraline taper in December 2014 cut by 25mg to 75mg; 62.5mg 1/1/15 and 50mg on 2/1/15 Held at 50mg through April 5 to use liquid Reduced dosage in 10% or less drops from 50mg to 25mg -- at single tablet of 25mg on 10/5/15 Transitioned to all liquid for accuracy while tapering -- Horrible insomnia -- back to 25mg liquid and held until October 1, 2016 10/16 -- 11/18 tapered very slowly to 10.6mg. No real improvement and never really stable so updosed to 12.5mg (1/2 a pill) for convenience and long hold. After 8+ months of holding with no noticeable improvement decided to add .4ml of liquid Prozac (about 1.5mg) to see if that improves the situation Supplements, Magnesium, D3, Omega 3, curcumin, Valerian, 81mg Aspirin, L-Theanine, Vit. C, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 59 minutes ago, apace41 said: Nobody can tell you what will work for you, Ryguy, but there IS science out there supporting high levels of omega 3s and brain repair after TBI. Here's a link to one example: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23363551 If you want to hear a story that supports this listen to JJ Virgin talk about her son who was hit by a car and was given mega Omega 3 as part of his recovery program. It's not without controversy, but you are not off the wall to think it might help. Best, Andy Thank you for the feedback! Am reading now what you sent . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabe Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 I juset was wondering the kind you got as I know you have problems with additives etc as well....I was wanting a pure form... -Nardil 1976 < year, stopped. React to AD's. Klonopin .5BID 1990, 2.5mg til 2016 -Klonopin doubled Jan '16. Taper to 2.25mg May to Nov '16. Bad react to Lexapro, stop. React to Prevacid too, taper off. -November '16 Tapered .25mg Klonopin in hospital. Jan '17 started Viibryd, 20mg from Feb to June '17, -20mg to 10mg Viibryd from 3/25 to 6/10 2017, 12/15 10% Viibryd taper...back up next day -Clonazepam 2mg to 1.85mg 4/14 '17 to end November; taper to 1mg Clonazepam in hospital 9/1 tp 9/14 '17 -Feb '18 Amiloride .25mg 5/18 off Amiloride d/t react. Clonaz compounded -4/27 '18 Viibryd 9.5mg, 6/11 9.0 mg, 1/27 '19 Viibryd 8.75mg, ; Clonazepam .2mg 530pm and .7mg 1130pm, Premarin .3mg 830PM CARAFATE QID 2/27/19 to 3/5/19 -July 6'19 1/2 10mg Claritin 230pm, stopped it about July 18, started Oct 11 '19, -7/27 Viibryd 8.5, 8/29 8.25, 10/24 8.0, 12/19 7.75, Feb '20 7.50, 3/20 7.25, 5/20 7.0, 6/20 6.75, 7/20 6.5, 8/20 6.25, 10/2 20 6.0, 11/25'20 5.75, 1/9/21 5.5, 2/23 5.25 -1015 AM Viibryd, vit D 4,000IU 130, 415 Clonazepam .2mg, 815 Premarin .3mg, 1015 Clonaz .7mg, 1115 3t fish oil+D 1145 Castor Oil 650mg(4) 1230 Carafate 1/2GM,Methylated B Vit 1/week,Reacted Mag prn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 13 hours ago, Rabe said: I juset was wondering the kind you got as I know you have problems with additives etc as well....I was wanting a pure form... Is this question for me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvkids Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Does anybody take krill oil instead of fish oil? I have taken it for several years, but it has a lower omega 3 quantity than fish oil and is more expensive. It does have some other ingredients that are supposed to be beneficial, and I do not get fish burps from it. I am realizing that it will likely become cost prohibitive, even the Costco brand, to take enough to reach the 2000-3000 mg. amount of omega 3 recommended. Costco fish oil is fairly inexpensive. Anyone had good results with it? And does keeping it in the freezer really prevent fish burps? For me, that would mean remembering to take it in addition to my weekly supplements which I keep together in a weekly pill dispenser. Can't put it in the dispenser ahead of time if it is in the freezer. Paxil, 20 mg. daily for last 20 years Began tapering October 2018. Took last dose May 2019. Xanax .25 mg used rarely, just for insomnia. Maybe took it once a month (or less) over past 10 years. Remeron 7.5 mg. started 8/2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted August 31, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 31, 2019 Here are the search results for krill in this topic: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/search/?q=krill&type=forums_topic&item=36 And the search results for brand in this topic: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/search/?q=brand&type=forums_topic&item=36 * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anytriptaline Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Any experience with the Lysi brand? They are an icelandic cod liver oil company Been taking 10ml since Friday and can't report any changes, good or bad, might be helping moving the gut 2007-2018 25mg-50mg Amitriptyline, 4mg Perphenazine, 500mg Valproic Acid Nov 2018-February 2019 quetiapine, mirtazapine, pregabaline, estazolam, agomelatine, levomepromazine, trazodone, sulpiride March 2019 - 37.5mg Amitriptyline, 4mg Perphenazine, waiting to tapper off slowly February 2023 - Finished taper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy4 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I've been taking fish oil for years and although I've had a myriad of withdrawal symptoms I have not had brain zaps. I think I maybe had one in the night once when I messed up my Effexor dosage (I've had brain shivers and 'jolts' when startled but I think they're different) This week I switched brands. I'm in Australia, so I've changed from Blackmores to Bioglan AND I've upped the dose quite a bit (roughly doubled from 2000mg to 4000mg). I am feeling quite headachey and feeling the effects of my last effexor drop this week.. I'd like to give it a bit longer, wondering if I should split the dose e.g. a 2000mg capsule at breakfast and a 2000mg capsule at lunch. My intro Lexapro: 2013 - 20 mg, then 30 mg then 40 mg 2016. Cold turkey 4 June 2018. Reinstated August 24 2018 at 5mg (not tapering while I'm tapering the Effexor XR) Effexor XR - 75mg 7 June 2018, increased to 150mg August 2018. Tapering September 2018 10% first drop, 5% second drops every 4 weeks 07 March 2019 112.5mg, 02 June 2019 112.5mg minus 30 beads Seroquel 12.5mg - May 2018 - September 2018 prescribed after work stress to augment Lexapro Phenergen - 10mg as needed from June 2018 - August 2018 for disequilibrium Rizatriptan - 10mg as needed from June 2018 to December 2018 for "vestibular migraine" onset Propranalol - June 2018 prescribed for vestibular migraine prevention 80mg; 30mg Oct 2018, 10mg May 2019 Valium - 2.5mg - intermittent use for withdrawal symptoms Stemitil - 2003 for cervicogenic dizziness and June 2018 for dizziness/nausea (not effective) Supplements: 1000mg fish oil x 2 capsules (EPA 180mg + 120mg) 09/09/19 2 x 2000mg (360mg EPA + 240mg DHA each), vitamin C, magnesium diglycinate 3g,. Taurine 3g , vitamin D3, vitex, bone broth, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriane Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 On 6/22/2017 at 4:28 AM, Happy2Heal said: If at all possible, I try to find foods that contain the vitamin or mineral that I think I may need. this may help: https://www.globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/vitamin-e-foods/ a quick google search turned up a lot of articles that say that using a vit E supplement may not be helpful, and possibly slightly harmful. it says nothing about getting the vit from food however. My mother, who had lung cancer, was enrolled in a study of taking mega doses of beta carotene to see if it would help slow the growth of the cancer. It turned out that those supplementing with beta carotene had their cancer spread, those who didn't take the supplement, did better, and they needed to end the study because it was clearly doing harm (but by then, she was one of the pts who had been harmed) however, they've since learned that those EATING more foods with beta carotene (and indeed, more whole unprocessed plant foods) not only get less cancer to begin with, they do better if they do get cancer. Medicine seems to love to take one thing from food and try to turn it into some kind of money maker, when in fact, we've known for a very long time that eating a wide variety of whole foods is the best medicine. it's not something you can patent or stick in a bottle and sell, but it works. hope this helps. 2008-2018 20mg celexa 2018 April tapered 15ml, April 15 10mg,May 1st 5 mg, May 15 0mg 2018 July1st 10mg -July 15 20mg Sept 2018 celexa 10mg Sept 15 20mg Sept 2018 -tapered -15 Oct 2018 tapered 10mg Nov 2018 tapered 05 mg-Dec 2018 tapered 0mg Mar 3 -2019 ativan 1mg .March 18-2019 stopped ativan March 06 2019 celexa 10mg March 20-2019 celexa 20mg April-2019 15mg May 2019 10mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katy398 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 TAKE FISH OIL BEFORE BED. Not sure if this has been mentioned before. My naturopath has told me that it’s essential to take fish oil before bed. If taken during the day our bodies metabolise it, if taken at night whilst our bodies are dormant it goes to the brain. Definitely food for thought I think. Best wishes to all on this slow journey of recovery Kx Lexapro Fast Track/ Cold Turkey Last dose end Dec 2018 Tapered 1/2 a daily dose a week (20mg) for 14 weeks, last dose was a 20 mg pill!! 3.5 times slower than Psychiatrist recommended, I felt proud of myself!! Little did I know!!!!Got too scared to reinstate because I’d left it too long. On ADs for 20 years (Prozac approx 10 years/ Pristiq approx 3 years/ Citalipram approx 2 years/. Lexapro a approx 5 years/. Last two years 40mgs Lexapro day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottlehalffull Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 @Katy398 on an empty stomach before bed? I guess I'd sleep through the fish burbs then... Usually I try to take it with a full meal to reduce the fishiness. Anyone who got bruising from fish oil: did it go away? Whenever I take 1 g EPA+DHA for a while (so more like 2 g fish oil, depending on brand), I start getting bruising right around the time I feel like it's starting to work on the depression and get scared and stop. 2018/7 Started on lamotrigine (12.5 mg) and escitalopram (2.5 mg). Tapered up over the course of a month to 50 mg LTG, 10 mg escit. Kept tapering LTG up to 75 mg by 2018/10. 2018/11 Crosstapered from escitalopram to sertraline. 2018/12 Was still taking both SSRIs (escit. 5 mg, sert. 25 mg) when sert. was discontinued to trial quetiapine. Quet. tapered up to 25 mg, but tapered back down after 3 days on the full dose because side effects. Total time on quetiapine 10 days. Switched back to cross tapering esit. and sert., started tapering LTG up to 100 mg. 2019/1 Lamotrigine 100 mg, sertraline 12.5 mg, escitalopram 5 mg. Finally discontinued escit. and on full dosage of sertraline (25 mg) 2019/04. 2019/11 About two weeks of sertraline 12.5 mg, but went back up to 25 mg. 2019/12/4 Lamotrigine taper: too fast, down to 25 mg over the course of about 10 days. Also started increase sertraline 37.5 mg during luteal phase of menstrual cycle for PMDD. 2020/(early) on 22 mg lamotrigine for a while, maybe a month and a half, maybe longer, then 2020/03 Institutionalized for self harm. I think I was trying to taper the sertraline at the time, don't remember the details. Doses increased: Sertraline 50 mg/lamotrigine 25 mg (current regimen). Supposed to be taking seroquel and abilify (TWO antipsychotics?!) but didn't take any once I was discharged from the institution. (Was on them a few days.) ________________________________________________________ 2001(?) Citalopram, don't remember dosage, cold turkey after a couple months and had terrible withdrawals, including what in retrospect was probably PAWS for the next five or so years. (agoraphobia, crippling social anxiety, anhedonia, dp/dr). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverknew Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 I am not allergic to fish but the omega 3 oil I take makes me itch. It's good quality stuff, too: Omegagenics liquid with natural lemon flavor. Has anyone else had this experience? I would really like the benefit of omega 3 fatty acid - is there another way I can get it without fish oil? I don't even know for sure it is the fish. Like I say I''m not allergic to fish but maybe it's because it's so concentrated? On Prozac since 2004, 10 mg Began to taper, 2016, first time cold turkey unsuccessful, so soon after tried again kept having to go back on medication due to withdrawals tried to do it myself as couldn't find a dr to help me Currently on taper #4 from 2016, having changed to Lexapro and starting November 2018 from 5 mg As of April 2020 I am at 1/5th of a mg (.2 mg) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted July 16, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) The easiest way to find out would be to stop taking it for a while and then restart it. If it happens again them it is most likely the cause. You would have to make sure that you didn't change anything else during this time. As you said it may be something else in the capsules or it might be the high concentration. Edited July 16, 2020 by ChessieCat * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyan Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 @Altostrata Mam I usually takes 1000mg fish oil (330 epa & 220 dha ) perday with vit E 400ui from the last two months But from the last three days I updose the fish oil as two capsules at a time. It makes me dizzy and brain fog. Then What will I do (6 Aug 2019 start taper 4.8mg, 5 Sep - 4mg, 16 oct 19- 3mg, 28 nov 19 - 2mg, 11 may 20 -1mg 1 oct 20- 0.5mg, 24 dec 20 - 0.25mg, 5 jan 21- 0.2375, 9 jan 21 - 0.225, 13 jan 21 - 0.2125, 17 jan 21- 0.2, 21 jan 21 - 0.1875, 25 jan 21 - 0.175, 29 jan 21 - 0.1625, 2 feb 21 - 0.15, 6 feb 21 - 0.1375, 10 feb 21 - 0.125, 14 feb 21 - 0.1125, 18 feb 21 - 0.1, 22 feb - 0.0875, 26 feb - 0.075 , 2 mar - 0.0625, 9 mar - 0.05625, 13 mar- .05, 17 mar - 0.04375, 22 mar- 0.0375, 27 mar- .03125, 31 mar- 0.025 At 9 Apr - 0.0125 From 10 Apr - 0.0000 ) End game Taper from 0.5mg to 0.125mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted July 30, 2020 Author Administrator Share Posted July 30, 2020 If something causes you to feel poorly, reduce it or discontinue it. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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