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I'm thinking about switching omega 3 fish pills from the original Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega 1280 mg daily to the ones made from algae or potentially cod liver oil due to histamine issues the originals could be causing. Is this something I need to slowly transition over to or can I just make the switch since its still fish oil just made with a few different ingredients?

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After reading this entire thread, I found some conflicting views on algae fish oil. Anyone have any updated research they found?

 

I read @nick1990 wrote how algae fish oil would work as a replacement for regular fish oil with studies to back it up saying how there is NO drawback in supplementing with Algae DHA over Fish Oil DHA and how health risks are lesser with the Algae option. Especially with algae being the original source. What brands of algae fish oils would you recommend? 

 

However, I also read that algae fish oil has no benefit on nerves, brain, and inflammation, which is what we need in WD and not helpful because EPA needs to be twice as high as DHA. According to @JanCarol EPA is apparently needed to get the available DHA into the brain, so EPA supplementation is way more important than DHA, which leaves us with fish oil as the best source.

 

I'm looking to switch from regular to algae oil because regular fish oil has high histamine content and salicylates and I think its causing reactions for me as I lower the amounts in my diet. Will a switch from fish oil to algae fish oil cause side effects? I need to drop it with high histamine in my diet causing unfocused vision, anxiety, heart palpations etc. 

 

-2014: Lexapro/escitalopram 10 mg, 2015-2021: Lexapro/escitalopram 20 mg

-10/2020-3/2021: decreased 20 mg to 15 mg, 1 mg a month

-4/2021: decreased to 10 mg, held for 11 days, 4/2021: decreased to 5 mg, held for 8 days

-4/2021: 3-6 days cold turkey lexapro, withdrawal symptoms so reinstated 2.5 mg 

-omeprazole taper: 9/2021 cut 25%, 10/20/21 25% cut, 12/1/21 25%, 12/28/21 25% cut, (9/36 beads of 40 mg)

-11/2020 omeprazole 20 mg, 3/2021: omeprazole 40 mg,

-Nordic Naturals Ultimate omega 3 fish pill: 1280 mg

-montelukast: 10 mg dailyzyrtec: 10 mg daily 

-3/20/2021-7/25: mesalamine 1.2 GM, 3 times a day - dropped

-birth control: Trilinyah 2014- 2/1/2021 quit cold turkey middle of pack 

7/16/2021-8/1/2021 Quicksilver Liposomal multivitamin liquid: biotin, zinc, Vitamins A, C, D E, K, Niacin,, Thiomine, Riboflavin,Vitamin B6, B12, 7/16/2021- 8/25/2021 - boswelia complex (tumeric. ginger, celery) - 2 a day - dropped

7/16/2021 - probiophage probiotic - dropped 

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Hi everyone.

 

I've been reinstated back onto Citalopram 2.5mg daily for a few months now, and am still taking supplements but not sure if they're having much effect. I'm willing to do whatever I need to do, but they're not cheap, so wanted to see if anyone had any experience to share on the effectiveness of them vs not taking them at all?

 

They are:

 

Omega 3 - 2000mg - 2 capsules daily

Magnesium - 100mg - 2 tablets daily

Vitamin E - 400 IU - 1 tablet daily

 

I was thinking of stopping to see how things were without them, but still get some pretty bad waves of withdrawal, so didn't want to make things worse. Alternatively, I've always taken them since I started my initial taper, so not sure what I'm getting from them, or even if they're making things worse.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

x

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Fish oil

 

Hello,

 

I see fish oil can be extremely beneficial. Now, for someone who is on alot of supplements for different reasons, I want something that's reputable, cost effective, etc and not something that's 1 more pill to put in my body. I am cautious with this stuff. I know there's much controversy on vitamins and supplements these days. Any good fish oil brands?  I know everyone responds differently.  

 

Thank you.

 

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Hello,

 

is algae oil with enough DHA and EPA as good as fish oil or is fish oil a "better" form to take? Of course algea oil is more expensive and has more DHA than epa but if you take 3000mg it should be enough of both 

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Idk if anyone mentioned it here somewhere but I wanna mention that if you have bad reaction to the fish oil - it doesn't necessarily have to be the fish oil itself. It can be its form which starts the adverse reaction. There Are 4 main forms - ethylesthers, tryglicerides, tryglicerids that were first transformed to ethylesthers and then back to tryglicerides and krill oil. Ethylesthers are usually cheap in capsules form - I found that I have pretty bad reaction to these and I think that it is because even there is a little alcohol in ethylesther molecule there is still some. Then we have more expensive tryglicerides (usually lower epa+dha but still better than ethylesthers cuz the absorption Is twice better). Finally most expensive transformed tryglicerides and krill. Best for absorbtion is krill And transformed tryglicerides (for example nordic Naturals ultimate omega 3) these are the Kings for omega 3 supplemantation and I recommend them the most.

I have no adverse reaction to these.

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@Altostrata

 

Hi all.

 

Been taking both Omega 3 & Magnesium since Citalopram reinstatement a year ago. Over a year it's worked out kind of expensive. I don't mind the expense if I know they're helping but....

 

I really don't remember much of a change to my symptoms when I started taking them so I'm not really sure if they're helping, or how much?

 

Has anybody got experience of taking them, then not taking them & what happened. Any noticeable benefit or difficulties to speak of?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

x

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Citalopram 20mg 2007 - December 2020. Tapered down from 20mg daily, to 1.25, by halving the dose, holding for 3/4 weeks after each reduction, then jumping off in March 2021.

 

23/6/ 2021 Reinstated Citalopram, 0.5mg, held for a week then increased to 1mg. Held for four weeks then increased to 1.5mg. Held for two weeks then increased to 2mg. held for two weeks then increased to 2.5mg. been on 2.5mg since 24/8/21

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If you don't feel magnesium and fish oil are beneficial, you might stop taking one and see if that causes any changes. If no change, you could then stop taking the other and run the same experiment.

 

Over time, people can reduce their dosage of omega-3 fish oil to a lower daily maintenance dose.

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I have this.. How many capsules should I take per day?

 

 

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On 6/28/2022 at 9:39 AM, Mutfael said:

How many capsules should I take per day?

 

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This independent group called ‘Labdoor’ reviewed around 65 different brands of fish oil. They scored them on label accuracy, product purity, nutritional value, ingredient safety and projected efficacy.


https://labdoor.com/rankings/fish-oil

 

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