Eastcoastgirl Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Does anyone have any issues just sitting in the sun? It seems that everytime I lay out to get some sun I am very irritable the next day.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted March 24, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 24, 2021 It may be to do with your body being heated up and /or your eyes being in the brightness and your brain being overstimulated. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiaJ Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 @Altostratawould you alter any of these recommendations now that there is research suggesting that Vit D levels above 30 are correlated with less severe COVID infection? I'm afraid to supplement with vitamin D because historically I poorly tolerate supplements other than magnesium. I am four years into withdrawal, though, and am much better than before. Still at 1.74 mgs of Mirtazapine, tapering slowly. Don't seem to have many waves, unless I have medical treatments. I'm avoiding the vaccine and that's causing a lot of stress. I also am afraid to get it because of what might happen with WD symptoms. Thanks for reading, hope you're well. 2005-2009 Various ADs and maybe some random Ativan, nothing long-term 2009 Started Celexa 10 mg 2012 Symptoms of depression worsened when I quit drinking, started a course of Viibryd (10 mg), Buspar (5 mg), Xanax 2013 Hospitalized, added Lamictal in the hospital (quit Lamictal cold turkey in 2014) 2014 Switched back to Celexa from Viibryd 2015 Quit Buspar cold turkey 2016 Cut down to 5 mg of Celexa (all seemingly without issues) June-August 2017 tapered off Celexa October 2017 Hospitalized for insomnia (quit sleeping entirely) reinstated w/ Trintellix 5mg (stopped in 1/18) and 7.5 mg of Mirtazapine Mirtazapine (in mgs) 2/18 5, 6/19 3.5, 9/25/19 3.2, 2/24/20 2.9, 3/2020 2.85, 6/20/20 2.5, 10/3/20 2.3, 11/30/20 2.1, 1/1/21 1.95 3/19/21 1.86 9/1/21 1.65 11/30 1.5 mgs 3/1/22 1.41 mgs 6/28/22 1.37 mgs 10/22 1.20 mgs Daily supplements: 470 mgs magnesium, Miralax, 640 Omega complex, probiotic, testosterone 2 gms, progesterone 12.5 mgs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted August 28, 2021 Author Administrator Share Posted August 28, 2021 No. Too much vitamin D is still toxic. If your vitamin D levels are low as shown in a blood test, you will want to judiciously supplement with vitamin D3. If you get a bad reaction to a vitamin D3 supplement, reduce the dosage or postpone taking it until your hyper-reactivity is lower. Overdosing with vitamin D because of fear of covid-19 is just as dumb as drinking bleach. We urge people to use common sense in dealing with any health challenges. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brucie Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 In your estimation does vitamin D help?? (Sun or pill) I can not attempt to take any supplements or vitamins yet…not even close. But I can handle some sun. I see that magnesium because it blocks calcium channels. I also read at this link that Vitamin D deficiency reduces GABA because it helps utilize calcium. Does sunlight increase glutamate too. Let me know your experiences please please please https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31821883/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curiousnootropics Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I have "suboptimal" vitamin D levels. I eat fish and eggs but they are still low. I can't stand higher doses, such as 1000 iu and above. Anyone raised their levels when taking a small dose, like 400 i.u? How do you react on low doses vitamin d during withdrawal? Zoloft, November 2019. I worked up to 50 mg and stayed there until 1 year later. I tapered for 3 months, which should consider to be cold turkey. Tapering schedule: Month 1: 37.5 mg Month 2: 25 mg Month 3: 12.5 mg Month 4(Half the month): 6.75 mg Month 4(Other half): 0 mg December 9, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crochet Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 I tried vitamin D3 - 1000 early in my withdrawal and it was too activating, so I didn't take it. In the summer, I made sure to spend 20-30 minutes in the sun doing yoga or something. Last fall, I started taking 400 iu for a while, then went up to 800 iu and now I'm at 1200 iu. I haven't noticed any negative effects. I was slowly improving before I started taking the vitamin D and continued to improve after taking. My levels were just under the normal range when I tested last year. I will report back when I test again in April. 1 2012-present - Escitalopram currently 2.55 mg Supplements: Daytime- Green Lipped Mussel 1200mg, Omega-3s 1710mg, Wheat Germ Oil 770mg, Sodium Butyrate 1.2g, Phosphatidylcholine 2600mg, Multi-Min 2 tablets, Liposomal Glutathione 4 pumps, Probiotic 1 capsule, Beyond Balance herbal tinctures for lyme and gut healing (including one only taken during menstruation); Nighttime - L-theanine 200mg, melatonin 1mg, magnesium glycinate 400mg. History: 2012-2017- Escitalopram 10mg 2017-2020 - Escitalopram 5mg 07/2019-11/2019 - Valium 10mg, every 2-3 days, then stopped 11/2020 - Stopped Escitalopram 5mg abruptly (crashed January 2021) 1/2021-12/2021 - Escitalopram Reinstated 2.5mg to 5 to 10 to 7.5 and then started slow taper 1/2021-2/2021 - Ativan .5mg - Took 13.5 pills over the course of 22 days and stopped 2/2021-9/2021 Hydroxyzine - 50-100mg tapering down to .8mg, then cross-tapered to Claritin and stopped 9/2021-9/2022 - Claritin 5 mg (tapered off) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unblocktheplanet Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 On 4/27/2012 at 1:20 PM, alexjuice said: On the adrenals message board, a patient there (not a doctor) said he uses: 10,000IU VitA, 1mg VitK(2) per day. Alex Alex, might you please let us know what 'adrenals message board' you're writing about? I'd like to have a look. Thx. Doc is not God spelled backwards! Mirtazapine 30mg 2003-February 2022 Vortioxetine 10mg December 2021 Quetiapine 12.5mg - 25mg - 50mg - 75mg January-March 2022 Trazodone 50mg 2003-present Alprazolam 1 mg August 2019-present Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unblocktheplanet Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Finished my Mirtazapine linear taper four months ago. In some months, I'll start tapering Trazodone. When one starts a new taper, does one need to stop or decrease supplements? Thx. Doc is not God spelled backwards! Mirtazapine 30mg 2003-February 2022 Vortioxetine 10mg December 2021 Quetiapine 12.5mg - 25mg - 50mg - 75mg January-March 2022 Trazodone 50mg 2003-present Alprazolam 1 mg August 2019-present Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crochet Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Hi there, in April 2021, my Vitamin D level tested at 29. I wasn't able to supplement much last year, as I was too sensitive. So when it wasn't cold, I would spend 10-20 minutes outside each day in my bathing suit. Last fall I started taking 400 iu each day and slowly increased until I was taking about 1200 each day. I retested my Vitamin D levels in June and they had only moved up to 31. I've been able to increase my daily intake even more, so now I'm taking 4,000 iu daily and spending 10-20 minutes in the sun in a bathing suit each day. I hope when I retest later this year that my levels will be optimal. 2012-present - Escitalopram currently 2.55 mg Supplements: Daytime- Green Lipped Mussel 1200mg, Omega-3s 1710mg, Wheat Germ Oil 770mg, Sodium Butyrate 1.2g, Phosphatidylcholine 2600mg, Multi-Min 2 tablets, Liposomal Glutathione 4 pumps, Probiotic 1 capsule, Beyond Balance herbal tinctures for lyme and gut healing (including one only taken during menstruation); Nighttime - L-theanine 200mg, melatonin 1mg, magnesium glycinate 400mg. History: 2012-2017- Escitalopram 10mg 2017-2020 - Escitalopram 5mg 07/2019-11/2019 - Valium 10mg, every 2-3 days, then stopped 11/2020 - Stopped Escitalopram 5mg abruptly (crashed January 2021) 1/2021-12/2021 - Escitalopram Reinstated 2.5mg to 5 to 10 to 7.5 and then started slow taper 1/2021-2/2021 - Ativan .5mg - Took 13.5 pills over the course of 22 days and stopped 2/2021-9/2021 Hydroxyzine - 50-100mg tapering down to .8mg, then cross-tapered to Claritin and stopped 9/2021-9/2022 - Claritin 5 mg (tapered off) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry4949 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Is there anyone who lives in the uk that has manage to find a vitamin d3 with vitamin k supplement that’s 400iu preferably a soft gel I have been looking but can only find supplements that are much higher and do not contain vitamin k 2001 to jan 2015 Effexor 150 mg jan 2015 15 mg mirtazapine 20 mg quetiapine feb 2015 quetiapine stopped feb 2015 30 mg of citalopram added feb 2015 mirtazapine increased to 30 mg july 2015 citalopram stopped sept 2015 200mg of pregabalin jan 2017 mirtazapine stopped jan 2017 20 mg fluoxetine march 2017 all meds stopped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Hi @Terry4949 Good to hear from you. 14 minutes ago, Terry4949 said: Is there anyone who lives in the uk that has manage to find a vitamin d3 with vitamin k supplement that’s 400iu preferably a soft gel I have been looking but can only find supplements that are much higher and do not contain vitamin k I'm just curious, why do you want the Vit-D and Vit-K combo? Are you aware that, in general, the SA recommendation is to try introducing only one supplement at a time, and to stick with mono-supplements as opposed to multis? This has to do with the Rule of 3KIS: 1996-2018 - misc. polypharmacy, incl. SSRIs, SNRIs, neuroleptics, lithium, benzos, stimulants, antihistamines, etc. (approx. 30+ drugs) 2012-2018 - 10mg lexapro/escitalopram (20mg?) Jan. 2018 - 10mg -> 5mg, then from 5mg -> 2.5mg, then 0mg --> July 2018 - 0mg 2017(?)-2020 - vyvanse/lisdexamfetamine 60-70mg 2020-2021 - 70mg down to 0mg --> July 2021 - 0mg March-April 2021 - vortioxetine 5-10mg (approx. 7 weeks total; CT) --> April 28th, 2021 - 0mg supplements: magnesium powder (dissolved in water) as needed throughout the day; 1 tsp fish oil w/ morning meal; 2mg melatonin August 1, 2022 - 1 mg melatonin Courage is fear that has said its prayers. - Karle Wilson Baker love and justice are not two. without inner change, there can be no outer change; without collective change, no change matters. - Rev. angel Kyodo williams Holding multiple truths. Knowing that everyone has their own accurate view of the way things are. - text on homemade banner at Afiya house I am not a medical professional; this is not medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unblocktheplanet Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Have others experienced activation associated with Vitamin D and/or Vitamin K supplementation? If so, safest bet might be a sunlamp if you do not have much access to natural sunlight. We are all deficient in Vitamin D. It sure is hard to balance that health concern with withdrawing ADs! Doc is not God spelled backwards! Mirtazapine 30mg 2003-February 2022 Vortioxetine 10mg December 2021 Quetiapine 12.5mg - 25mg - 50mg - 75mg January-March 2022 Trazodone 50mg 2003-present Alprazolam 1 mg August 2019-present Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persistente Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 I have vit D defficiency (very close to normal values) and was prescribed 25.000 IU once weekly during next 4 weeks... I took first dose without thinking enough. I saw that low vit D can be the reason for low mood due to its effect on dopamine. I have been having bad waves of depression and overwelming fear lately and thought that low vit D was the reason. I was actually happy that lab showed this because it could be the reason why my waves are again so strong and often this far out. However, today I read somwhere that vit D can increase tinnitus and now I feel or better to say I fear it happened to me. I will see during next few days how it goes. It might be that my overthinking brain plays with me or just the weather influencing tinnitus as many times before but it looks liķe it is more intense. Is that familiar to someone? 3/2012 - sertralin 50 mg, no major side effects 1/2014 - ct sertralin 50 mg (tappered 3 weeks as doctor ordered) 7/2014 - back to sertalin 50 mg, no issues 4/2016 - ct sertralin 50 mg (tappered 3 weeks, my decision) 12/2016 - back to sertalin, major side effects from the first pill and the begginning of hell 2/2017 - mirtazepine 15 mg added for insomnia 6/2017 - stopped sertralin (2 months tapper) 9/2017 - stopped mirtazepine (3 weeks taper) waves and windows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepPls009 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Not familiar with the relationship between vitamin D and tinnitus, but I suffer from tinnitus, too, mostly due to circulation issues, I think. For me it seems to come on randomly, and I haven't found an exact trigger yet. How long have you been taking the vitamin D? I'd recommend trying to keep a symptom diary for a week and taking notes about the intensity of your symptoms. If they're consistently worse for a week after starting the med, try asking your doctor if you can take a smaller dose or go off of the med temporarily (make sure that they don't expect you to have any other symptoms if you suddenly stop it) and then see if the tinnitus wears off. Unfortunately it's just so hard to establish real cause-effect relationships with a lot of these meds, especially when the symptoms aren't something a doctor sees regularly, so I've found that you often need to experiment a bit to see what causes what. Good luck! SleepPls009 Current – Nothing but Aug-Oct -melatonin 2, nebivolol 2.5, amlodipine 2.5,, rosuvastatin, dayvigo 5mg, nefazodone 1x 25mg July 23 – Nebivolol 1.25 mg, amlodipine 2.5 mg, budesonide, omeprazole, rosuvastatin 5mg May-Jun 23–Nebivolol 2.5, Amlodipine 2.5, Budesonide, omeprazole, rosuvastatin 5mg April 23- Amlodipine 2.5 mg, Omeprazole 40mg, Budesonide nasal rinse 1/day, Feb 23-March 23- Bisoprolol 2.5 mg (1/24-2/1), Atenolol 5mg (2/12-3/1) Nov 22-Jan23 – Metoprolol 25 mg, Ranolazine 500mg (Nov), Coreg 1.125 (Dec-Jan) October 22 – Quviviq 25 mg, Lunesta 3mg, mirtazipine 30mg September22 – Melatonin 1mg, Ambien 5 mg, Ramelteon 8mg, Seroquel 50-125mg June 22 – Sertraline 100mg, seroquel 25-50 mg, Ambien 10mg, Amitryptiline 25 mg, July-Aug 22 –Melatonin 1mg nightly (July), Dayvigo 5 mg, Ambien 5mg ~2002-2022: Luvox 100mg daily until April 12, 2022, May 22: Prozac 20mg – May 12-June 1, Klonazepam, as needed, Trazedone (once) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persistente Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Thank you for replying. I just took the first dose of vit D. It is supposed to be taken once weekly. I have tinnitus for 20 years. First I thought it was caused by brain tumor surgery or radiation I had at that time. But I was on gabapentin few weeks at that time as well and did not taper. When ADs adverse reaction after starting zoloft for the thir time and wd after that hit me I realizex the truth about all those drugs. That was 5 years ago. I was clueless before. My doctors are still clueless. I avoid them as much as possible. 3/2012 - sertralin 50 mg, no major side effects 1/2014 - ct sertralin 50 mg (tappered 3 weeks as doctor ordered) 7/2014 - back to sertalin 50 mg, no issues 4/2016 - ct sertralin 50 mg (tappered 3 weeks, my decision) 12/2016 - back to sertalin, major side effects from the first pill and the begginning of hell 2/2017 - mirtazepine 15 mg added for insomnia 6/2017 - stopped sertralin (2 months tapper) 9/2017 - stopped mirtazepine (3 weeks taper) waves and windows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGGG Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Has anyone taken vitamin d then got nausea? Year 2010 to 2020 remeron, Buspar, atenelol, Ativan as needed (once a week) remeron stopped working (pooped out) oct 2020 started amitryptyline took it 3 months Dec started wellbutrin, Stopped it 3 months later Started Paxil again for 3 months took vibryd for 1 month, Stopped it in 5 days Started sam e 100mgs 3x a day, Tyrosine 1000mgs 3 x a dayfor 6 months August 2020 - Off all antidepressants 16 th of Feb, 2023 started taperingsam e the 100mg 2 x a day of sam e. I stopped taking the afternoon one. And started every other day then every r day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pianca Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 This was happening to me for some time, though the nausea occurred on the next day, shortly after waking up and lasted through the morning. ~2014-2016 Paroxetine 20mg, fast tapered in a month Three months later reinstated 20mg 2016-2022 Few unsuccessful tapers June 2022 - 20mg > 17.5mg July 2022 - 17.5mg > 15mg Crashed hard - brain fog, anhedonia, fatigue August/September 2022 - 15mg > 20mg > 30mg November 2022 - bridged to 30mg Prozac from 30mg paroxetine over 1.5 months 23.12.22 - upped Prozac to 40mg Currently: 40mg Prozac, 400mg glyc magnesium, 4k IU D3 again, 0.5mg melatonin, 2k mg fish oil Main problems: brain fog, fatigue, anhedonia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted February 26, 2023 Author Administrator Share Posted February 26, 2023 Please use common sense. If you get a bad reaction, take less. @GGGG Please use search in the Symptoms and Self-Care forum for existing discussions before starting topics about supplements. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGGG Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Altostrata said: Please use common sense. If you get a bad reaction, take less. @GGGG Please use search in the Symptoms and Self-Care forum for existing discussions before starting topics about supplements. My vitamin. D is 2500 is in capsule capsule form thats why I was asking Year 2010 to 2020 remeron, Buspar, atenelol, Ativan as needed (once a week) remeron stopped working (pooped out) oct 2020 started amitryptyline took it 3 months Dec started wellbutrin, Stopped it 3 months later Started Paxil again for 3 months took vibryd for 1 month, Stopped it in 5 days Started sam e 100mgs 3x a day, Tyrosine 1000mgs 3 x a dayfor 6 months August 2020 - Off all antidepressants 16 th of Feb, 2023 started taperingsam e the 100mg 2 x a day of sam e. I stopped taking the afternoon one. And started every other day then every r day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted February 27, 2023 Author Administrator Share Posted February 27, 2023 If you get a bad reaction, take less. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGGG Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 On 2/26/2023 at 5:25 AM, Pianca said: This was happening to me for some time, though the nausea occurred on the next day, shortly after waking up and lasted through the morning. So you took less? Or what do you take for vitamin d deficiency? Year 2010 to 2020 remeron, Buspar, atenelol, Ativan as needed (once a week) remeron stopped working (pooped out) oct 2020 started amitryptyline took it 3 months Dec started wellbutrin, Stopped it 3 months later Started Paxil again for 3 months took vibryd for 1 month, Stopped it in 5 days Started sam e 100mgs 3x a day, Tyrosine 1000mgs 3 x a dayfor 6 months August 2020 - Off all antidepressants 16 th of Feb, 2023 started taperingsam e the 100mg 2 x a day of sam e. I stopped taking the afternoon one. And started every other day then every r day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pianca Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 On 2/28/2023 at 1:56 AM, GGGG said: So you took less? Or what do you take for vitamin d deficiency? Yeah, exactly. Started from low dose and went up with time, since my deficiency was pretty big. This kinda makes sense to me, not only when thinking of being hypersensitive from withdrawal, but also from the point of nervous system being used to low levels and needing to adapt to upping them. Either way D3 deficiency can cause a lot of problems, so better to go through some trial and error to address it rather than just leaving it be. ~2014-2016 Paroxetine 20mg, fast tapered in a month Three months later reinstated 20mg 2016-2022 Few unsuccessful tapers June 2022 - 20mg > 17.5mg July 2022 - 17.5mg > 15mg Crashed hard - brain fog, anhedonia, fatigue August/September 2022 - 15mg > 20mg > 30mg November 2022 - bridged to 30mg Prozac from 30mg paroxetine over 1.5 months 23.12.22 - upped Prozac to 40mg Currently: 40mg Prozac, 400mg glyc magnesium, 4k IU D3 again, 0.5mg melatonin, 2k mg fish oil Main problems: brain fog, fatigue, anhedonia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGGG Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 9 hours ago, Pianca said: Yeah, exactly. Started from low dose and went up with time, since my deficiency was pretty big. This kinda makes sense to me, not only when thinking of being hypersensitive from withdrawal, but also from the point of nervous system being used to low levels and needing to adapt to upping them. Either way D3 deficiency can cause a lot of problems, so better to go through some trial and error to address it rather than just leaving it be. Mine was 21. So I started to break the 2500 vitamin d capsules in half. Year 2010 to 2020 remeron, Buspar, atenelol, Ativan as needed (once a week) remeron stopped working (pooped out) oct 2020 started amitryptyline took it 3 months Dec started wellbutrin, Stopped it 3 months later Started Paxil again for 3 months took vibryd for 1 month, Stopped it in 5 days Started sam e 100mgs 3x a day, Tyrosine 1000mgs 3 x a dayfor 6 months August 2020 - Off all antidepressants 16 th of Feb, 2023 started taperingsam e the 100mg 2 x a day of sam e. I stopped taking the afternoon one. And started every other day then every r day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Onmyway Posted July 23, 2023 Moderator Share Posted July 23, 2023 Interesting article on the impact of vitamin D on mood and sleep. I didn't know it impacted serotonin and melatonin pathways. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1087079220301222#:~:text=Recently%2C it has been proposed,sleep [4%2C6]. 1 "Nothing so small as a moment is insurmountable, and moments are all that we have. You have survived every trial and tribulation that life has thrown at you up until this very instant. When future troubles come—and they will come—a version of you will be born into that moment that can conquer them, too." - Kevin Koenig I am not a doctor and this should not be considered medical advice. You can use the information and recommendations provided in whatever way you want and all decisions on your treatment are yours. In the next few weeks I do not have a lot of capacity to respond to questions. If you need a quick answer pls tag or ask other moderators who may want to be tagged. Aug 2000 - July 2003 (ct, 4-6 wk wd) , citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn, wellbutrin for a few months, trazodone prn Dec 2004 - July 2018 citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn (rarely used) Aug 2018 - citalopram 40 mg (self titrated up) September 2018 - January 2019 tapered citalopram - 40/30/20/10/5 no issues until a week after reaching 0 Feb 2019 0.25 xanax - 0.5/day (3 weeks) over to klonopin 0.25 once a day to manage severe wd March 6, reinstated citalopram 2.5 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 mg for sleep 2-3 times a week Apr 1st citalopram 2.0 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 once a week (off by 4/14/19- no tapering) citalopram (liquid) 4/14/19 -1.8 mg, 5/8/19 - 1.6 mg, 7/27/19 -1.5 mg, 8/15/19 - 1.35, 2/21/21 - 1.1 (smaller drops in between), 6/20/21 - 1.03 mg, 8/7/21- 1.025, 8/11/21 - 1.02, 8/15/21 - 1.015, 9/3/21 - 0.925 (fingers crossed!), 10/8/21 - 0.9, 10/18/21 - 0.875, 12/31/21 - 0.85, 1/7/22 - 0.825, 1/14/22 - 0.8, 1/22/22 - 0.785, 8/18/22 - 0.59, 12/15/2022 - 0.48, 2/15/22 - 0.43, 25/07/23 - 0.25 (mistake), 6/08/23 - 0.33mg Supplements: magnesium citrate and bi-glycinate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario80 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 i am 2.5 off mitrazpine.I take fish oil quality,i take magnesium.I use virgin oil.And tumeric.in night i use melatonin and valeriana.I use D vitamin 5000 Ui .level d is about 26.But last days i feel very bad i will very big upset and big restless.Are Vitamin D can make me this restless?Thx❤️ i was 8 years 30 mg mitrazpine.2 years taper 30/15/7.5/3.75.and 2 years 4 months off. i feel very bad.Big anexity and tired.I have big pain in body and pain in muscle. i am in depression and have adhedonia. Have thingling in teeth and fingers. i every day live i pain. i have no emotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus arbor Posted December 30, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 30, 2023 Hello @mario80 I recommend having your blood tested for Vitamin D as the best way to know if it is within reasonable levels. I'm sorry you are experiencing upsets. In my humble opinion these are likely caused by withdrawal from the antidepressant. Your symptoms are typical of other people's reports. Very, very hard, I know. I look forward to improvement for you over time. It may take awhile, but eventually when you're free of the medication your system will adjust. You can read the Success Stories to keep you going. All my best to you. mario80🕊️ Zoloft: 1995 - 2015 Prozac: 2015 - 2018 (tapered from 40mg x day on July 31 to 30mg on August 31 to 20mg on September 31 to 10mg October 31 to 0mg on December 15, 2018 Gabapentin: 2016 to 2019 (tapered from 300mg x day to 150mg on August 31, 2019 to 75mg on September 15 to 50mg on September 31 to 25ishmg on October 15 to 0mg on December 1, 2019 Enalapril: 2010 - 2019 Lipitor: 2017 -2017 Metformin: 2000 - 2020 Liothyronine: 2007 - 2019 Levothyroxine: 2000 - 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElaineM Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 I have taken 4,000 IUs of Vit D for quite awhile (before withdrawal) and I struggle really bad with sleep at times. Should I cut back on Vit D? like maybe 2000 IUs? fluoxetine since 13 (2012) with a break at some. point in there. When I came off I was on 80 mg. I cut out one dose a week. Last dose taken on 1/25/23 Reinstated 1 milligram April 24th, 2023 I have tried all sorts of supplements… innate response formulas adrenal response, neurolink, pro eze, valerian, integrative therapeutics pro-som. My daily pills include l-methylfolate, fish oil, multivitamin, vitamin D3, and a currently a probiotic. I also take melatonin at nighttime! Currently taking fish oil (amount varies), magnesium(roughly 187 milligrams) (this includes magnesium lotion), take epsom salt baths, magnesium l-threonate (145 mg), melatonin time release (3 mg), lemon balm tea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus arbor Posted January 3 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 3 Dear @ElaineM I'm sorry you're experiencing the extremely difficult symptom of sleeplessness that typically attends SSRI w/d. I personally haven't been able to correlate Vitamin D with my w/d symptoms. Since I take 5000iu's of it, I try to get regular blood tests to make sure I'm within the recommended range. I hope this is of use to you. Best wishes on this challenging path to recovery. Arbor Zoloft: 1995 - 2015 Prozac: 2015 - 2018 (tapered from 40mg x day on July 31 to 30mg on August 31 to 20mg on September 31 to 10mg October 31 to 0mg on December 15, 2018 Gabapentin: 2016 to 2019 (tapered from 300mg x day to 150mg on August 31, 2019 to 75mg on September 15 to 50mg on September 31 to 25ishmg on October 15 to 0mg on December 1, 2019 Enalapril: 2010 - 2019 Lipitor: 2017 -2017 Metformin: 2000 - 2020 Liothyronine: 2007 - 2019 Levothyroxine: 2000 - 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon1 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 On 1/2/2024 at 8:20 PM, ElaineM said: I have taken 4,000 IUs of Vit D for quite awhile (before withdrawal) and I struggle really bad with sleep at times. Should I cut back on Vit D? like maybe 2000 IUs? I get horrific insomnia after taking Vitamin D. I've tried all forms, different formulations, and doses. It seems that there is a sizeable minority of people who can't tolerate D supplements. Even in very low amounts, I'll experience agitation and insomnia. I tend to feel a 'wired energy' a few hours after taking it in the morning. Which can then last a day or two afterwards. I'm classed as deficient, so I just need to make sure I get out in the sunshine as much as possible. That said, I've seen an increasing amount of articles from scientists in recent months saying that supplementation may be pointless and that we all have natural levels of vitamin D that vary a great deal. Also, blood levels may not be the right way to measure how much our bodies are using, or need. It's always struck me as odd how a blood level was chosen decades ago that suddenly classed 50% of the world as deficient overnight. And scientists at the time didn't think 'hmm, is this right?'. Oct 2018 - Jun 2020: 10 mg per day generic Escitalopram in pill form. Jul 2020 - Aug 2020: Switched to 9 mg per day of Cipralex drops to aid tapering. Sep 2020 - Oct 2020: Taper to 8 mg. Nov 2020 - Dec 2020: Taper to 7 mg. Jan 2021 - Feb 2021: Taper to 6 mg. Mar 2021 - Apr 2021: Taper to 5 mg. May 2021 - Jun 2021: Taper to 4 mg. Jul 2021 - Sep 2021: Taper to 3 mg. Sep 2021 - Jan 2022: Taper to 2 mg. Jan 2022: Stopped taking altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctorsrcrap Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 I haven't had any anxiety in months and certainly not panic attacks. I took 400iu of vit d for 3 days this week due to low levels and I am now having insane heart rates and waking up with panic attacks and sweating. Not sure what to do now. Interestingly I looked back over my medical records and I took vit d back in 2015 before my stint with ADs started. 5 days later I ended up on medication due to anxiety. Anxiety very similar to what I experienced after taking the vit d this time. Any thoughts? 2015- Jan 2021 20mg Citalapram Jan 2021- April 2021 Sertraline (CT) June 2021 - Fluoxetine & Trazadone Oct 2021- Trazadone to Quitiapin Oct 2021 to June 2022 switches Duloxetine then paroxatine then Venlafaxine. June 2022- venlafaxine for 5 or 6 weeks at 37.5 twice daily. Upped for one week to 75mg twice daily but caused panic attacks. Dropped back down to 37.5 twice daily. Panic attacks stopped. 1 week- 62.5mg 1 week- 50mg 1 week- 37.5mg 1 week - 25mg ANTIDEPRESSANT FREE SINCE JULY 22ND 2022!! 18/05/23 - 01-06/23 doxycycline for a rat bite Taken propranalol since 2015. 80mg. 21/11/22 76mg. 28/11/22 72mg. 05/12/22 68mg. 19/12/22 64mg. 27/12/22 60mg. 02/01/23 56mg. 09/01/23 50mg. 16/01/23 47mg. 23/01/23 44mg. 29/01/23 40mg. 05/02/23 38mg. 12/02/23 35mg. 19/02/23 32mg. 25/02/23 27mg. 04/03/23 25mg. 11/03/23 22mg. 17/03/23 19mg. 24/03/23 20mg. 05/04/23 18mg. 11/04/23 16mg. 17/04/23 14mg. 27/04/23 20mg. 19/06/23 19mg. 25/06/23 20mg. 04/08/23 18mg. 11/08/23 17mg. 16/08/23 16mg. 25/08/23 15mg. 01/09/23 14mg. 08/09/23 13mg. 15/08/23 12mg. 22/09/23 11mg. 29/09/23 10mg. 19/11/23 9mg. 26/11/23 8mg. 03/12/23 7mg. 10/12/23 6mg. 17/12/23 5mg. 24/12/23 4mg. 31/01/23 3mg. 07/01/24 2mg. 13/01/24 1mg. 19/01/24 0mg. DONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon1 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 21 minutes ago, Doctorsrcrap said: I haven't had any anxiety in months and certainly not panic attacks. I took 400iu of vit d for 3 days this week due to low levels and I am now having insane heart rates and waking up with panic attacks and sweating. Not sure what to do now. Interestingly I looked back over my medical records and I took vit d back in 2015 before my stint with ADs started. 5 days later I ended up on medication due to anxiety. Anxiety very similar to what I experienced after taking the vit d this time. Any thoughts? It’s relatively common, even in those not in withdrawal. There are a significant proportion of people who don’t react well to synthetic vitamin D. Unfortunately when they ask about it online (usually Reddit), they end up being told they need to be taking a whole host of ‘cofactors’ for it to work. Which is nonsense. If something makes you feel bad, don’t take it. Within a few hours of taking vitamin D, I get slightly agitated. I usually get insomnia that night. If I continue taking it, it just gets worse. It’s been this way most of my life. As I said in my previous post, it’s looking increasingly likely that the vast, vast majority of people don’t need to take any whatsoever, and those that do should eat foods or get out in the sun where possible. Scientists are now starting to believe the blood tests are useless, and that we all have differing amounts of vitamin d in our bodies being used, that blood tests don’t pick up. Indeed, a huge 5 year study has been performed by a well respected scientist, who’s concluded that vitamin D has no benefits for depression, heart health, bone heath or cancers (unless in specific circumstances). Link below. https://www.wbur.org/news/2024/03/05/vitamin-d-benefits-joann-manson-vital-trial-brigham-and-womens-newsletter# I suspect that Vitamin D supplements are going to fall out of favour pretty soon. The only parties that have interest in keeping the stories about Vitamin D going are, surprise, supplement companies making lots of money. Oct 2018 - Jun 2020: 10 mg per day generic Escitalopram in pill form. Jul 2020 - Aug 2020: Switched to 9 mg per day of Cipralex drops to aid tapering. Sep 2020 - Oct 2020: Taper to 8 mg. Nov 2020 - Dec 2020: Taper to 7 mg. Jan 2021 - Feb 2021: Taper to 6 mg. Mar 2021 - Apr 2021: Taper to 5 mg. May 2021 - Jun 2021: Taper to 4 mg. Jul 2021 - Sep 2021: Taper to 3 mg. Sep 2021 - Jan 2022: Taper to 2 mg. Jan 2022: Stopped taking altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctorsrcrap Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 How long should I expect this reaction to last. I am sweating so bad 2015- Jan 2021 20mg Citalapram Jan 2021- April 2021 Sertraline (CT) June 2021 - Fluoxetine & Trazadone Oct 2021- Trazadone to Quitiapin Oct 2021 to June 2022 switches Duloxetine then paroxatine then Venlafaxine. June 2022- venlafaxine for 5 or 6 weeks at 37.5 twice daily. Upped for one week to 75mg twice daily but caused panic attacks. Dropped back down to 37.5 twice daily. Panic attacks stopped. 1 week- 62.5mg 1 week- 50mg 1 week- 37.5mg 1 week - 25mg ANTIDEPRESSANT FREE SINCE JULY 22ND 2022!! 18/05/23 - 01-06/23 doxycycline for a rat bite Taken propranalol since 2015. 80mg. 21/11/22 76mg. 28/11/22 72mg. 05/12/22 68mg. 19/12/22 64mg. 27/12/22 60mg. 02/01/23 56mg. 09/01/23 50mg. 16/01/23 47mg. 23/01/23 44mg. 29/01/23 40mg. 05/02/23 38mg. 12/02/23 35mg. 19/02/23 32mg. 25/02/23 27mg. 04/03/23 25mg. 11/03/23 22mg. 17/03/23 19mg. 24/03/23 20mg. 05/04/23 18mg. 11/04/23 16mg. 17/04/23 14mg. 27/04/23 20mg. 19/06/23 19mg. 25/06/23 20mg. 04/08/23 18mg. 11/08/23 17mg. 16/08/23 16mg. 25/08/23 15mg. 01/09/23 14mg. 08/09/23 13mg. 15/08/23 12mg. 22/09/23 11mg. 29/09/23 10mg. 19/11/23 9mg. 26/11/23 8mg. 03/12/23 7mg. 10/12/23 6mg. 17/12/23 5mg. 24/12/23 4mg. 31/01/23 3mg. 07/01/24 2mg. 13/01/24 1mg. 19/01/24 0mg. DONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon1 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Not long. When I stopped taking it, it took a day or so to feel better. Oct 2018 - Jun 2020: 10 mg per day generic Escitalopram in pill form. Jul 2020 - Aug 2020: Switched to 9 mg per day of Cipralex drops to aid tapering. Sep 2020 - Oct 2020: Taper to 8 mg. Nov 2020 - Dec 2020: Taper to 7 mg. Jan 2021 - Feb 2021: Taper to 6 mg. Mar 2021 - Apr 2021: Taper to 5 mg. May 2021 - Jun 2021: Taper to 4 mg. Jul 2021 - Sep 2021: Taper to 3 mg. Sep 2021 - Jan 2022: Taper to 2 mg. Jan 2022: Stopped taking altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctorsrcrap Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 I took it for 3 or 4 days and it's been 48 hours since my last dose. 2015- Jan 2021 20mg Citalapram Jan 2021- April 2021 Sertraline (CT) June 2021 - Fluoxetine & Trazadone Oct 2021- Trazadone to Quitiapin Oct 2021 to June 2022 switches Duloxetine then paroxatine then Venlafaxine. June 2022- venlafaxine for 5 or 6 weeks at 37.5 twice daily. Upped for one week to 75mg twice daily but caused panic attacks. Dropped back down to 37.5 twice daily. Panic attacks stopped. 1 week- 62.5mg 1 week- 50mg 1 week- 37.5mg 1 week - 25mg ANTIDEPRESSANT FREE SINCE JULY 22ND 2022!! 18/05/23 - 01-06/23 doxycycline for a rat bite Taken propranalol since 2015. 80mg. 21/11/22 76mg. 28/11/22 72mg. 05/12/22 68mg. 19/12/22 64mg. 27/12/22 60mg. 02/01/23 56mg. 09/01/23 50mg. 16/01/23 47mg. 23/01/23 44mg. 29/01/23 40mg. 05/02/23 38mg. 12/02/23 35mg. 19/02/23 32mg. 25/02/23 27mg. 04/03/23 25mg. 11/03/23 22mg. 17/03/23 19mg. 24/03/23 20mg. 05/04/23 18mg. 11/04/23 16mg. 17/04/23 14mg. 27/04/23 20mg. 19/06/23 19mg. 25/06/23 20mg. 04/08/23 18mg. 11/08/23 17mg. 16/08/23 16mg. 25/08/23 15mg. 01/09/23 14mg. 08/09/23 13mg. 15/08/23 12mg. 22/09/23 11mg. 29/09/23 10mg. 19/11/23 9mg. 26/11/23 8mg. 03/12/23 7mg. 10/12/23 6mg. 17/12/23 5mg. 24/12/23 4mg. 31/01/23 3mg. 07/01/24 2mg. 13/01/24 1mg. 19/01/24 0mg. DONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon1 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 It may take a bit longer if you took it for a few days, as it’s fat soluble rather than water soluble. But is should begin to fade soon. Oct 2018 - Jun 2020: 10 mg per day generic Escitalopram in pill form. Jul 2020 - Aug 2020: Switched to 9 mg per day of Cipralex drops to aid tapering. Sep 2020 - Oct 2020: Taper to 8 mg. Nov 2020 - Dec 2020: Taper to 7 mg. Jan 2021 - Feb 2021: Taper to 6 mg. Mar 2021 - Apr 2021: Taper to 5 mg. May 2021 - Jun 2021: Taper to 4 mg. Jul 2021 - Sep 2021: Taper to 3 mg. Sep 2021 - Jan 2022: Taper to 2 mg. Jan 2022: Stopped taking altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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