lexicon: off ADs for 2 months and in horrible distress

[lexicon]

Alto what kind of magnesium and where do I find it? Thank you ..xx

[Hudgens]

Very sorry to hear you're suffering so much. Anxiety attacks are awful, especially when they keep coming one after the other. Are there any parts of the day when symptoms aren't quite so bad? Any moments at all when things calm down a little?

 

I think about you during the day and how you are suffering, and hope you're getting some relief from these symptoms from time to time. Keep writting here about how you are doing, when you feel up to it. Benz

[lexicon]

Aaah, today has been such a terrible day .. And it has not given me s break at all .. It is now almost 9 pm and am still so very dizzy, I cannot see straight, much less walk ..

My head issues are still here, and so are the anxiety symptoms ..

Thank you dear Benz for thinking of me ..It helps so much that someone is in your corner ..

But I do wonder why this severity today ..

And why it does not let go ..

Alto, can you tell me please.? I seem to do better when I understand the why ..

Good night dear Benz ..God bless you for your care and support ..xx

[Hudgens]

Yes, I'm in your corner. Everyone here is in your corner, and we're all thinking of you and what you're going through right now. Try to get as much rest as you can tonight, Benz

[flower]

I'm in your corner too Lex.I've been so dizzy and nauseous I can't think. Getting outside helped a little but I swear I am motion sick. I think I'll try dramamine again if it doesn't ease today. It helped to lay still last night..Once we get that stuff in our head stirred up it takes a while to calm down. Some longer than others I think. Maybe today will be better for us. Stay strong and remember what this is.

[Hudgens]

Lex, how are you feeling today? Benz

[lexicon]

You brought tears to my eyes, dear Benz, you and Flower ..Thank you for thinking of me, for your support and for writing ..

I was up at times during the night ..awake with this freaking dizzy ..

I fell asleep at some point, and woke at 6am.

This morning am emotional and depressed .. Some of the dizzy is still here, and my walking is off and not steady ..

Also the anxiety is hovering in the background, with my heart and stomach acting up ..

I desperately hope the symptoms stay away today ..

How are you Benz? I failed to pray last night, but did so this morning ..So God is aware that we need His healing grace ..

I am grateful to you, for the encouragement, and support ..

Thank you, God bless you ..xx

[lexicon]

Flower wi feel saddened that you were not feeling good yesterday ..

I wish that you will have a better day today, and you would not need the dramamine ..

I took it a couple of times, but it did not help me ..

Thank you for your support andi encouragement Flower, it brought tears to my eyes ..I am in your corner too ..

I was saying to dear Benz that I failed to pray last night, but did this morning ..God knows that we need His healing grace ..

Thinking of you, and wishing a serene day for you ..xx

[lexicon]

Hi Angel,

I have not responded, as I have had a couple bad days ..

I have been thinking of you, and praying that you are feeling better. Please write and update ..

I am in your corner Angel and wish you wellness. Xx

[Hudgens]

Hi lex, I woke up at 6am and couldn't go back to sleep, too.

 

I'm having a wave today. Anxiety. It's not too bad right now, though.

 

Hope I feel better this afternoon because I want to got to see my Nephew's Lacrosse game at 415pm.

 

But even if I don't feel all that great, I think I'll try and get there anyway. Getting through a normal sort of activity like that when I don't feel that great-acting as though there's nothing wrong-always seems like an accomplishment to me, shows me that I don't always have to stop doing things I like, just because of these symptoms.

 

Of course, when they're really bad and I can't do a particular thing I wanted to, I don't feel defeated, because I know I have to take care of myself more at those times.

 

How are you doing today? Really hoping you're having a better day than you have been lately, you really deserve it after all of these trials. But regardless, you will start to feel better eventually, maybe sooner than you expect. Benz

[Altostrata]

lexicon, when you want to understand, please read your topic again.

[lexicon]

I am sorry Alto, I do not mean to test your patience ..I am sure you have your hands full with all of us ..

It is just that when in distress, I look for some support and encouragement, to carry through ..

I am grateful for your guidance thus far, and for the wonderful work you do ..

I think of you, as God's right hand ..xx

[Altostrata]

Not really, more like a wart on God's left pinky toe.

[Meimeiquest]

Hi Lexicon,

 

I think those of you with serotonin syndrome have a pretty tough go. That's a lot for your neuroreceptors to adapt to. But at least the doctors seem to get it that more drugs is not the solution to that.

 

I wonder if a psychiatric home health nurse might be helpful. Their service would be ordered by your doctor. He/she could check your pulse and blood pressure and help you find out what activities you can safely do while you wait for your nervous system to settle down. It doesn't feel real safe to say "it's OK, you'll be fine" over the Internet when you are so frightened and uncomfortable. Although based on experiences here, you are probably OK and going to be fine once this struggle is over. But do keep us updated on your progress!

[lexicon]

Hi meimei ..You have a sweet and soothing way to you, that I feel better reading what you say ..Unfortunately having a nurse is not an option for me ..

I wish meimei..

How are you, and how are your days ..I think of you, and say a silent prayer for your well being ..

Today for me was distressful as usual .. I feel that I cannot breathe and struggle for air ..This creates events that follow immediately .. The back of my head responds, with pressure, a mild headache and dizziness sets in ..

I feel that there is no air in the room, and scramble to turn a fan on, and open the door .. Then my tummy starts hurting and my heart beating heavy ..

The dizzy stays all day after the breathing trigger .. The tummy and heart, come and go, through out the day ..And there is depression .. crying and crying ..

I suspect that this whole ordeal may be anxiety ..

Did you ever have this meimei ..?

I hope tomorrow is a better day, for us all ..

Thank you for your interest and encouragement . Wishing you a good night ..xx

[lexicon]

just to say that yesterday I took a Magnesium tablet hoping to ease anxiety ..unfortunately it made me ill with severe dizziness and nausea that lasted all day .What do you think happened ..?

I did not take any today ..

With gratitude, for any input ..thank you ..

[Narcissus]

Not sure what happened with the magnesium. Hope you feel better soon.

[Hudgens]

Lex, Hi, hope you're doing better today.

 

I've got some mild nausea myself, haven't had that for months.

 

We seem to be so extremely sensitive to just about everything when we're in withdrawal or tapering. Things that wouldn't have had any obvious effect on us before or during antidepressants, now have strong negative effects. I used to take a ton of vitamins and herbal supliments in my 30's. Now any one of them make me feel awful. It's just better to keep things as simple as possible during all of this. Moderate food, rest and activity. We have to do some suffering to get through this, but how much suffering may depend as much on what we refrain from trying as much as what we do try.

 

How are you getting along today? Benz

[lexicon]

Dear pgd,

Thank you for writing ..What happened could be that my system has changed so much since this ordeal begun ..Everything that I used to take, I cannot anymore, not even medications, as they turn paradoxical ..

At least this is what I think happened, combing through this site for into ..

I am grateful that you wrote .. I wish you wellness, as I see that you are going through a lot too ..I will be thinking of you, so please update on your progress ..xx

[lexicon]

Hi dear Benz,

You are right, things have been altered with our systems. ..I wonder how long it will take before things get back to normal ..

It is early in the morning for me, and am bothered with the usual heaviness iand pressure in the back of the head, plus the stomach and heart ordeal ..And my breathing concerns me, as it attacks abruptly ..It frightens me each time ..

Anxiety I think ..

I was hoping the Magnesium would have helped ..But not ..

How did your day go yesterday, and how is it today for you?

I cannot thank you enough, for being in my corner Benz ..I always appreciate your sound advice, and support ..God bless you ..xx

[Hudgens]

When's the last time you had your heart checked out? Benz

[lexicon]

Probably when this started, about 5-6 werks ago .. I went to throw ER and they kept me overnight .. The diagnosis was premature beats ..I also wore s halter monitor for 24 hours.

That was normal.

Why Benz? What are you thinking?

It is this breathing that gives me distress ..xx

[Meimeiquest]

Dear Lex,

 

Assuming you are just going through the normal torture of WD , this is what is happening: the normal balance between activation and relaxation is blown to pieces. So magnesium that in high doses can over activate the intestines does so with a small dose, your hormones tell your lungs they need to breathe like you're in mortal danger and your heart that it must beat faster, etc. Of course this is not a good long term plan. But in the short term it is much safer than serotonin syndrome, and it is something that will pass with time.

 

There is something I want to say with a very tender heart. As you know, you are really sick. And people are trying to give you the best advice they can. It may be good advice or bad advice...who knows. We don't actually know you. But you always have a reason you can't do something to get real help from real people. If you are able to go to the ER, one can usually get home health as it has much more bang for the buck. Could you hire someone to drive you to the specialist? Even if you have to put groceries on a credit card for a year. I think it will be really hard for you to find your fighting place to get real help, but if you can do that, I think just the process of fighting will help you get better. Or maybe I am just being bipolar. Only you can decide.

 

I promise you I would take you to the doctor if I could!

[Hudgens]

Tell your dr about not feeling like you're getting a full breath, or did you at your last visit?

[Nikki]

Hi lexicon

 

Being taken off meds so abruptly is the height of insanity on the doctor's part. Makes me mad that doctor's do that.

 

No wonder you feel poorly. In reading your drug history it looks like ssri continued to cause anxiety for you. I don't know your whole story. Can you find another doctor who can help you thru this ordeal? There are other medications other than ssri, like the old tricyclics which can aid anxiety in a relatively low dose.

 

As for you heart and breathing, sometimes panic feels like a heart attack or I remember thinking I had a brain tumor....it was bad back then.

 

What did the holter monitor reveal? There is a beta blocker 'propranolol' that is to lower blood pressure, when you see your doctor ask if you can take it. It really does stop anxiety.

 

So hope you feel better

 

Nikki

[lexicon]

Hi Benz, I hope you are having a good morning ..

Thank you always for your care Benz...

Well, yesterday was the worst of the worst for me ..

All the symptoms and some new made the day highly distressing and miserable ..

A tough day to bear ..

Hoping and praying that today will be easier ..

Wishing you the best, along with thank you for being there with a kind word of support ..xx

[Hudgens]

Very sorry to hear you had such a bad day. I seem to be hitting a wave today, myself. Just took my first liquid dose of Effexor. So far so good.

How are you feeling so far today? Benz

[lexicon]

Hi Nikki,

Thank you for writing and your support .. I am grateful. ..

Nikki, the SSRI 'S were prescribed for Hyperthyroid ..And you are right, I always had problems while on them..

I saw various doctors and complained about symptoms such as dizziness, and being unable to walk straight. .. Not one had a clue what the problem was ..They would only say that my case was atypical.

When I tried to taper, I started having panic attacks. .. I was at the ER a dozen times ..But they were of no help either ..

More antidepressants were added for cross tapering, and more miserable I became ..

When I finally became debilitated, I went to this clinic, where the quick tapering took place ..And Here I am ..3 months later suffering...

I did see the doctor last night, and I inquirered it I could reinstate 2 Mg of the Sertraline to stabilize ..He said no, not at this point .. He thought it will be dangerous, because any medication that I have taken my body turns paradoxical .. Propranolol, metoptolol included. The holter belt was normal ..Every other test comes back normal ..

Yet, here I sm in daily distress and suffering ..

Thank you for your encouragement Nikki. ..And for reading this long text ..

I wish you all the very best ..

With much gratitude ..xx

[lexicon]

I am sorry to hear that you ere having a wave Benz .. Maybe that is what I had yesterday ..

It is good that the medication helps you ..Hopefully your day will be uneventful ..

It is early for me, but I do feel my head not doing good, and am trying to ignore it ..

Please say a prayer for me ..xx

[tezza]

Dear Lexi,

 

I'm sorry you're not feeling very well. I will say a prayer for you too!

 

Hugs

[lexicon]

Thank you Tezza, .. I am grateful. ..I have thought of you, and prayed for your well being ..

I wish that all is well with you ../xx

[tezza]

Thank you Lexi...

[lexicon]

Yesterday I saw my doctor, who refused to help me reinstate the Sertraline, with a very small dose. ..

The reason was that he is concerned because of my hypersensitivity to any medication or supplement ..He said it will be dangerous...

Today, cleaning a drawer I found 8 sertraline tablets. ..each is 25 Mg..

I am so very desperate, that I am thinking to make my own liquid.

Can I please have some thoughts on this ..?

Can you please give me some support, that I am doing the right thing to help myself ..?

Do you think that doing this may be dangerous like the doctor said ..?

I am grateful for any help ..Thank you ..

[Altostrata]

Can you follow the instructions for making a liquid here http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1441-tips-for-tapering-off-zoloft-sertraline/ and http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2693-how-to-make-a-liquid-from-tablets-or-capsules/ ?

[basildev]

Hi Lexicon,

 

I'm so sorry you're feeling so horrible.

 

I think the only thing left for you to do is to try Alto's advice.

 

I hope you feel better very soon.

[lexicon]

Thank you Alto, thank you basildev ..

I feel a little nervous, but I need to try ..

Who knows, maybe I will be lucky. My concern is my blood pressure going up ..

I appreciate your support ..xx