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papasteve remeron tapering and eventually dealing with the ensuing insomnia


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This is the first time I have posted on any forum and it all feels a bit alien for me but any way here goes. At some point soon I will get around to introducing myself to everybody , suffice to say my powers of concentration are zilch in the morning and I am usually to knackered by evening to put finger to keyboard. Anyway here is my question I am currently tapering down from Remeron and I am currently on 3mg and have noticed that every time I drop down I waken earlier, does anyone have any suggestions as to how to deal with the ensuing insomnia [it was the one thing that remeron did very well .......far better than counting sheep.] So if any members have any suggestions they would be greatly appreciated.
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Hi Papasteve,

 

Welcome to the forum.

 

You will find lots of useful information here and as much support as you need.

 

Remeron withdrawal is notorious for causing sleep problems. How much did you drop your dosage? We recommend no more than 10% drop per month. If you're having sleep issues, I would suggest even less, perhaps 5% at a time.

 

Here is a really good thread on sleep issues and what others have tried:

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/53-sleep-problems-that-awful-withdrawal-insomnia/

 

When you get a chance, please add your medication history to your signature. Here's a link on how to do that:

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/893-please-put-your-withdrawal-history-in-your-signature/

 

Here are some tips on tapering off Remeron:

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2028-tips-for-tapering-off-remeron-mirtazapine/

 

Have a read of these to get you started:)

July 2001 prescribed 20mg citalopram for depression;
On and off meds from 2003-2006.
February 2006 back on 20mg citalopram and stayed on it until my last attempt at tapering in September 2011.
By far the worst withdrawal symptoms ever. Reinstated to 20mg citalopram
October 2012 - found this forum!
Nov 2012 to Feb 2013 did 10% taper, got doen to 11mg - was going great until stressful situation. Cortisol levels hit the roof, hideous insomnia forced me to updose to 20mg.
March 2016 - close to 100% back to normal!



****** I am not a medical practitioner, any advice I give comes from my own experience or reading and is only my perspective ******

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Hi basildev, Thankyou for your reply to my post I found all the info on sleep issues very helpful...I use my computer often before going to bed and often watch telly right up to going to sleep I also frequently dont bother closing the curtains....so I will make a few changes and see if it makes a difference. I was interested in the threads about melatonin and checked out the UK site National Sleep Foundation where it suggested that melatonin when given to animals can cause changes in blood pressure and affect fertility such effects in humans would /could be a medical risk for people who have a heart problem , hypertension or kidney problems. I have atrial fibrillation and had a mild stroke a year and a half ago so unfortunately I will be body swerving the melatonin but at least I can try closing the curtains. I will put up my medication list soon in my signature.

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Welcome, papasteve.

 

You might find magnesium to be helpful, see http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1300-magnesium-natures-calcium-channel-blocker/

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Hi Pappa,

 

Just on a side note my Mum has been struggling with Arterial Fib for over a year now with lots of tests and medication. Recently she has

received good results with accupuncture. So much so her doc has reduced her cholesterol and blood pressure meds.

 

Dalsaan

Please note - I am not a medical practitioner and I do not give medical advice. I offer an opinion based on my own experiences, reading and discussion with others.On Effexor for 2 months at the start of 2005. Had extreme insomnia as an adverse reaction. Changed to mirtazapine. Have been trying to get off since mid 2008 with numerous failures including CTs and slow (but not slow enough tapers)Have slow tapered at 10 per cent or less for years. I have liquid mirtazapine made at a compounding chemist.

Was on 1.6 ml as at 19 March 2014.

Dropped to 1.5 ml 7 June 2014. Dropped to 1.4 in about September.

Dropped to 1.3 on 20 December 2014. Dropped to 1.2 in mid Jan 2015.

Dropped to 1 ml in late Feb 2015. I think my old medication had run out of puff so I tried 1ml when I got the new stuff and it seems to be going ok. Sleep has been good over the last week (as of 13/3/15).

Dropped to 1/2 ml 14/11/15 Fatigue still there as are memory and cognition problems. Sleep is patchy but liveable compared to what it has been in the past.

 

DRUG FREE - as at 1st May 2017

 

>My intro post is here - http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2250-dalsaan

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