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ravijaua

She is so helpful to us all

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Meeto

Hello Alto, may I ask if you had windows and waves throughout this journey, or was your recovery more of a progression from feeling bad to better over time?

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samanthaelizabeth

Alto- You are truly a saint!  God Bless you and all the mods on this site!

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arwilliams

So your sleep has returned?  Incredible if it has.

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jordidog
On 3/16/2011 at 7:50 AM, Altostrata said:

I developed prolonged antidepressant withdrawal syndrome after going off 10mg Paxil over 3 weeks in October 2004, at the age of 54.
 
I very slowly and painfully recovered from the autonomic nervous system damage over 9 years. For the last 5 of those years, I was unable to work due to prolonged withdrawal syndrome.
 
I started taking Paxil in 2001 for what I now believe was symptoms of menopause aggravated by intense work stress. After 3 years  with side effects on Paxil 10mg, I "tapered" under medical supervision at University of California San Francisco and immediately suffered severe antidepressant withdrawal symptoms.
 
My doctors at UCSF did not recognize acute and severe withdrawal syndrome and treat it properly by reinstatement of Paxil even though I requested it in January 2005. I had found information about diagnosis and treatment of antidepressant withdrawal syndrome on the Web. (The recommendation for reinstatement in cases of severe withdrawal symptoms was added in the package insert by GlaxoSmithKline in December 2001 during a widely publicized lawsuit regarding Paxil withdrawal syndrome; the FDA has caused similar advice to be added to antidepressant package inserts ever since.)
 
Instead, I was prescribed Wellbutrin; when that didn't work, a parade of other drugs I refused.
 
Ironically, the notes from UCSF include a diagnosis of "prolonged withdrawal syndrome." After 10 months, in July 2005 I left the care of UCSF Psychiatry and started my search for a doctor who might be able to help me. That proved to be near-impossible.
 
Over 3 years, I probably talked to 50 psychiatrists, including a good proportion of the Psychiatry faculty at UCSF, one of the top medical centers in the world, and none of them knew anything about antidepressant withdrawal syndrome -- so don't be surprised if your doctor is clueless. I was told by dozens of psychiatrists that I was suffering from "relapse." One elite psychiatrist told me that my belief I was suffering from withdrawal syndrome was a delusion.
 
I struggled with an ever-changing panoply of withdrawal symptoms for years, including excruciating tingling pain in my arms and shoulders for 2 years. Meanwhile, I read everything I could about antidepressant withdrawal syndrome, particularly in medical journals. (I was a medical researcher for a couple of years a while back; I've worked for 2 biotech companies.) Many of these papers and citations are posted in From journals and scientific sources .

 

I've talked to many, many doctors of various specialties and found psychiatrists to be the least sympathetic and just as ignorant as any other doctor about withdrawal syndrome. Most alternative practitioners, however well-meaning, are equally in the dark, having adopted the bogus "chemical imbalance" model; their recommendations can also be injurious.

 

Like many others, withdrawal made me hypersensitive to neurologically active medications and prone to paradoxical reactions. Personally, I found very small amounts of some supplements and herbs, along with acupuncture, chiropractic, physical therapy, and osteopathic manual therapy, to be helpful in reducing physical symptoms, see the Symptoms and self-care forum for the accumulated wisdom of myself and other members.

 
In December 2007, after an ill-advised job change, I completely lost the ability to sleep and became disabled. In late 2007, I finally found a doctor, a psychiatrist and sleep specialist, who understands and treats withdrawal syndrome, coincidentally in San Francisco.
 
Under his care, I very slowly recovered. Unfortunately, in January 2010, I developed severe atrial fibrillation, an autonomic heart condition. This was successfully treated in June 2013, but it took me a very long time to recover from the procedure. As I'm now 65+, I am still dealing with many health problems, but my autonomic nervous system is stable, my mind is clear, and my mood is generally calm.

 

Over the years, I learned a great deal about how my doctor views iatrogenic drug damage, which corresponded closely with the impression I had gotten from my reading. This, and my treatment, is recounted in One theory of antidepressant withdrawal syndrome
 
As my condition permitted, I advocated for psychiatric patient rights and educating the medical establishment about withdrawal syndrome. When I felt up to it, I ran a peer support group for antidepressant withdrawal in San Francisco for about 2 years. I was a frequent participant in PaxilProgress.org for 5 years.
 
In March 2011, with a group of friends from PaxilProgress.org (closed in December 2014), I founded SurvivingAntidepressants.org to provide peer support for tapering and to document withdrawal syndrome for the education of the medical establishment -- see About SurvivingAntidepressants.org
 

Medicine is in wide denial about the existence and severity of antidepressant withdrawal syndrome, leading physicians to almost always misdiagnose withdrawal syndrome as a relapse or emergence of a psychiatric condition and treat it improperly with ever-escalating combinations of drugs, which tend to make the condition worse.

 

Psychiatry ignores the adverse effects of these drugs because writing prescriptions is how it makes its living. In reality, the best doctors will admit treatment with psychiatric drugs is trial and error, success being when the patient stops complaining.

Even though most of the drugs they purvey are truly addictive or are well known to cause physical dependency, most psychiatrists know very little about how to get patients off psychiatric drugs with a minimum of withdrawal symptoms, indicating wear and tear. There is a widespread but spurious belief that withdrawal symptoms are invariably trivial and transient.
 
SurvivingAntidepressants.org is here to document that belief and practice regarding getting patients off psychiatric drugs is incorrect and needs to be informed by real patient experience, such as mine.

It’s helpful to me to read your history. So awful for you. There’s so much damage being done, as many of us probably believe, by the pharma industry and so called medical care system

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jordidog
16 hours ago, Altostrata said:

A YouTube video from a few years ago: Alto Strata's Paxil Prolonged Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome (8 minutes)

Courageous! Glad that you are fighting for what you believe in Altostrata

 

On 6/27/2018 at 8:52 AM, Blandell said:

It’s helpful to me to read your history. So awful for you. There’s so much damage being done, as many of us probably believe, by the pharma industry and so called medical care system

 

 

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peng

Alto, firstly, well done for recovering from withdrawal and inspiring countless others, including myself.  You have given us hope, where before there was only ignorance.

 

Now, it appears from your youtube video, at least, that you were prescribed an antidepressant for what you term a physical illness (vitamin deficiency/menopause)?

Maybe it is reasonable to say you were not predisposed to mental illness, unless precipitated into it by psychotropic drugs like Paxil?

 

Presumably, those of us who were prescribed AD(s) for, say, depression following a delayed catastrophic mental breakdown due to childhood PTSD, are likely to encounter greater, if not insurmountable, difficulties in achieving complete withdrawal from psychotropic meds and regaining a good quality of life totally without them?

 

This is the way I am starting to think now, having hit the buffers recently after a slow taper of two years (225.0 to 56.3mg Effexor).

 

By the way, I do not subscribe to the view that there is "no such thing as mental illness".

 

Finally, which of the heroes like David Healey, Peter Breggin, Joanna Moncrieff, Robert Whitaker, Thomas Szasz, etc,  have experienced mental illness themselves. 

 

I asked a question like this on a separate thread sometime ago but did not see any response at the time.  The silence spoke for itself, I suppose.

 

Sincere regards.

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Altostrata

We're all predisposed to mental illness. Mental illness can be diagnosed in a ham sandwich.

 

Much later after I was taking Paxil, I found the symptoms for which I was prescribed it by my GP were probably due to menopause or low vitamin B12, or both.

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jordidog
22 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

We're all predisposed to mental illness. Mental illness can be diagnosed in a ham sandwich.

 

Much later after I was taking Paxil, I found the symptoms for which I was prescribed it by my GP were probably due to menopause or low vitamin B12, or both.

Not surprised 

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RachelSusan

Altostrata,

Thank you for posting the clip. You spoke well and seemed very relaxed. Not sure if that is how you felt but that is how you appeared. Great job.  Thanks for going to the front lines and fighting to education the public. Thank you for taking the time to share your information with us. I was looking at your number of posts, 27 thousand plus posts. That's a lot of time and effort.  Much much much appreciation.

RS

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Rabe

I was prescribed numerous medications for a kidney condition r/t repeated infections as a child...causing potassium wasting.  Only after FInally having someone find the answer in Feb, 50 years later, to my on and off depression, anxiety, muscle pain, abnormal sweating patterns, headaches, weakness, polyuria, heat intolerance,etc etc, am I able to look back and realize this has all been the result of the kidney issue, not depression, or anxiety etc etc. I also have secondary heart issues r/t the undiagnosed kidney issue as well as the medications.  I now know why I felt better when I did not eat etc....salt makes it worse for example.

It is a challenge to accept the consequences of the medications...more difficult when the doctors behind them were so incorrect, and were able to say you take this medication or leave this facility.  And to actually come to believe that you are mentally ill is something...even now I find it hard to not think that.

Im grateful for all I have learned here and thank you Altostrata for all you have done, here and otherwise, in hopes of bringing about change.  Your dedication is beyond words.  The you tube video was wonderful...thank you for sharing.

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Survivor1

Finally able to put a face to a name!  Thanks for what you do!  How are you doing now, Alto?

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rupa
On 3/17/2011 at 1:50 AM, Altostrata said:

 

 
In December 2007, after an ill-advised job change, I completely lost the ability to sleep and became disabled. In late 2007, I finally found a doctor, a psychiatrist and sleep specialist, who understands and treats withdrawal syndrome, coincidentally in San Francisco.
 
 

 

It will be a great help ,If you can let us know, how you revived your ability of sleep.

I am encountering problems with sleep as I am tapering lower doses.

How the way this sleep specialist treated your sleep?

Congratulations on your full recovery.

I appreciate you very much as a person you are.

 

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Hibari

Thank you Alto for posting your story here.  You have done us all a great service through your dedication to healing and sharing information on antidepressant withdrawal.  

 

I'm glad you feel better and like most of the people here, we know what it takes to reach that place.  

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jordidog
1 hour ago, Hibari said:

Thank you Alto for posting your story here.  You have done us all a great service through your dedication to healing and sharing information on antidepressant withdrawal.  

 

I'm glad you feel better and like most of the people here, we know what it takes to reach that place.  

Yes!

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Rbvdk
On 6/29/2018 at 4:24 AM, Altostrata said:

A YouTube video from a few years ago: Alto Strata's Paxil Prolonged Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome (8 minutes)

You were so brave doing this video! You were so confident you wouldn't think you've been through so much! Thank you so much for this website, you are so kind and you've helped everyone here so much. :) I hope one day there will be more awareness about withdrawals and it's thanks to people like you that that should happen one day. :) This website is definetly spreading a big awareness and one day most doctors and specilists will know what post-withdrawal syndrome is and even know new ways to treat it. :) I hope you're doing well today and thank you for everything you've done and are doing! ❤️

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jordidog

I agree Rbvdk. I’m very grateful for this forum as it’s helped me a lot by affirming all that I’ve been experiencing so far. I also benefit so much from the knowledge and guidance. 

I don’t know what I’d do without it. 

And yes, Altostrata you are an important voice that helps to bring awareness and recognition to these life changing issues. 

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Martina23

Altostrata, I also thank you. Not only for me but I find it really very nice how each evening you try to help others  to survive this even if you could do other programme to yourself. And this also totally without cost. It is great that there are still people for whom to help other people is more important than to have always more money and carriere. I really admire it. It is actually very brave to stand here with totally other knowledge than the doctors and pharma try to push  and insist that something like withdrawal syndrome exists and they  are mistaken. It wants a lot of courage. 

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Altostrata

Thank you all. 💕

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Itzakadoozee
15 hours ago, Rbvdk said:

You were so brave doing this video! You were so confident you wouldn't think you've been through so much! Thank you so much for this website, you are so kind and you've helped everyone here so much. :) I hope one day there will be more awareness about withdrawals and it's thanks to people like you that that should happen one day. :) This website is definetly spreading a big awareness and one day most doctors and specilists will know what post-withdrawal syndrome is and even know new ways to treat it. :) I hope you're doing well today and thank you for everything you've done and are doing! ❤️

So that’s what Saint Altostrata looks like 

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Elyssa143

@Altostrata glad to see your doing better. Did you have depression during your withdrawl. Im finding it hard to find people who did. Most people deal with anxiety. I never had depression before withdrawls. Im very scared, its very dark where im at. I feel as though I wont ever get better. Any words of encouragement or hope? Thank you

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Junglechicken

I watched it again.

 

Alto how often do you get "out there", into the real public domain as you did when you filmed that?

 

Did you get a big crowd, were people supportive?

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Altostrata

Elyssa, I had every withdrawal symptom except nausea.

 

Junglechicken, I don't speak in public. I'm trying to find time to do this. Thank you for your encouragement.

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Emmi

@Altostrata 

 

Wow! I read your story here. You have had a very long struggle. Do you mean that this withdrawal syndrome from tapering can become a permanent situation and that you still have it?

 

How on earth is it possible that these pharmaceutical companies are able to get away with this. In the US and worldwide?! It's just infuriating. 

 

 

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getofflex

Alto strata that is quite a story.  You have really been through a very long and very difficult process.  I admire your for your extreme level of perseverance and strength.  

 

I hope that some day, some way, we are able to somehow make a difference in the medical establishment with the ignorance and pushing of these dangerous and addictive drugs.  

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Emmi

@Altostrata thank you so much for creating and founding this site!

 

I know this is a sensitive matter but have you ever thought about doing a documentary of this subject matter? This is a worldwide issue that needs serious attention. Thanks to Google I found this site, and I am in Europe . 

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RandyJames

I am so happy you made it through and started this site.  I have been on so many meds and it is absolute hell.  I am currently on 30 mgs of Lexapro, went up from 20mg 3 days ago as I am having tolerance withdrawal and am experiencing symptoms of withdrawal, though not as severe as in the past when I have fully come off the pills.  My goal is to become stable again at 30 mgs and then taper off very, very slowly this time.  I tried twice before and couldn't get through it.  This time I will take my time and try harder to be positive in the process.  I hope you are well and thanks again for providing us all with this resource.

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Iowan

Altostrata, Thank you for setting up this Website and providing as much time and support as you do and have over the years! You have been a true trail blazer and are a wealth of knowledge for all of us. My Dr's were failing me, pushing more medication on me, and draining my bank account. I am so happy I found SA.org. Thank you!

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Genesis

Thank you for paving the way for the others, Alto.  I am brand new here, especially to even the idea of tapering, and I am so completely humbled and inspired by you and the countless people here who are going through so much suffering.  I hope we all find peace and relief, and the inner knowing that the journey is the real revelation in who we truly are 💟

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rola
Hi Alto, you all give us hope, thanks for everything you do. We look forward to your entire story
pity I do not understand English because I would have liked to listen to your video

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ChessieCat

@rola

 

This is the transcript of Altostrata's video.  You can copy and paste it into a translator.

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My name is Altostrata  This is a pseudonym I use because I have been holding out the hope  of going back to work eventually using my real name and because of the stigma of mental  illness I am not using my real name.

 

I want to share my story with you and ask for your help.  My story I have told very few people because it is something that people do not want to hear about and that is when you get off psychiatric drugs if you do not do it in the right way the psychiatric hell does not end.  I have been more or less house bound for the last four years so this is a real challenge to me to be able to talk to you today.  Also the autonomic distress that I have had for the last eight years from Paxil withdrawal has gotten into my heart and I now have a serious heart condition.

 

My story I will l just put in a nutshell and that is that in about 2001 I went on Paxil.  My internist prescribed it.  I think that at that time actually what I was suffering from was low B12.  It is quite common that physical ailments are mistaken for psychiatric problems and that people are mistreated with psychiatric drugs instead of addressing the underlying physical ailment and if the person does not respond to the psychiatric drug of course it supposed to mean that they need more psychiatric drugs.  However I was on Paxil for about three years and I suffered typical side effects.  I gradually became very demotivated.  I of course had the sexual side effects and at last I determined that I would get off of Paxil because it was not doing me any good.

 

So I went up to UCSF which is a premier medical institution here in San Francisco University of California San Francisco.  I thought their psychiatrists would know how to take me off of Paxil.  It turned out that they knew absolutely nothing about tapering and when I came down with severe withdrawal syndrome they did not do the appropriate thing which is to immediately reinstate the drug.  Instead they thought that I was having a relapse of something and had no connection with reality because I was obviously suffering from withdrawal syndrome with the brain zaps and so forth.  Now since that time which was eight years ago I have learned a great deal about withdrawal syndrome and I am probably one of the top six experts in the world on withdrawal syndrome and tapering off drugs.

 

I have started a website called surviving antidepressants dot org which gives people specific information about how to taper off of specific drugs.  In other words if you are on Risperdal there is a topic that explains how to titrate Risperdal.  If you are on Effexor there is a topic that describes how to titrate off Effexor.  It is very important to go off these medications in a gradual fashion.  How slow depends on your individual nervous system but I cannot emphasize how important it is for you to go off in a gradual fashion so that you do not end up like me basically.  There are many people who come to my website who have gone off cold turkey and they are suffering terribly.  And there is nothing that can be done for them.  If some time has passed and we cannot reinstate the drug all they can do is wait until they heal.

 

Let me tell you a little bit about withdrawal symptoms.  Those brain zaps are not just some minor little problem.  I had them for six months which is a long time but they are not a minor problem even if they last for two days.  What they are is abnormal electrical activity in your brain.  It is a form of epilepsy.  This is not something that a normal brain should be experiencing.  There are other withdrawal symptoms such as disorientation, confusion, inability to concentrate, inability to sleep.  All of this speaks of a very unhappy nervous system.  You do not want to stress your nervous system like that.  My problem I have been suffering from autonomic problems for eight years because of Paxil withdrawal syndrome and I urge you not to unbalance your autonomic nervous system.  It runs everything in your body.  It runs your breathing.  It runs your heart rate.  It runs your muscle tone and if you upset it by going off  too fast it can take a very long time to recover.

 

The good news is that you do recover over time.  The bad news is that most likely withdrawal syndrome leaves you hypersensitive to medications including medications that you might at some time want to take like anaesthesia for major operations and it makes it very tricky for doctors to treat real medical conditions like for instance heart problems.  For me there is really no drug therapy because I am hypersensitive to medications and my heart problem probably I am probably going to need surgery which is not a happy option for me.  So the favour that I want to ask you is.  Oh let me go back a little bit.  All right so I want to tell you that good news is you can get off of psychiatric drugs safely.  You absolutely can.  The trick is to go slowly enough so that you do not push yourself into withdrawal symptoms.  That is really important to go slowly.  This excludes cold turkey as a tapering option.  It is not a tapering option.  Please if you know of anyone who is thinking of going off psychiatric drugs please ask them to taper rather than cold turkey or they could hurt themselves and get themselves into psychiatric hell off the drugs for many years.

 

So thank you very much for  listening to me and I am really glad that I found a slot at the very end here and I hope that all of you will help me out and help save people from being injured by withdrawal from psychiatric drugs.  Thank you.

 

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rola
4 minutes ago, ChessieCat said:

@rola

 

Ceci est la transcription de la vidéo d'Altostrata. Vous pouvez copier et coller dans un traducteur.

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Je m'appelle Altostrata. C'est un pseudonyme que j'utilise parce que j'espérais pouvoir retourner au travail en utilisant éventuellement mon vrai nom. En raison de la stigmatisation de la maladie mentale, je n'utilise pas mon vrai nom.

 

Je veux partager mon histoire avec vous et demander votre aide. Mon histoire, j’ai raconté très peu de gens parce que c’est quelque chose que les gens ne veulent pas entendre. C’est quand on cesse de prendre des médicaments psychiatriques si on ne le fait pas correctement, mais l’enfer psychiatrique ne se termine pas. Cela fait quatre ans que je suis plus ou moins confiné à la maison. C’est un véritable défi pour moi que de pouvoir vous parler aujourd’hui. De plus, la détresse autonome que je ressens depuis huit ans depuis le retrait de Paxil m'a envahi le cœur et j'ai maintenant une maladie cardiaque grave.

 

Mon histoire, je vais la résumer: c’est-à-dire qu’en 2001 environ, j’ai pris le Paxil. Mon interniste l'a prescrit. Je pense qu’à ce moment-là, ce dont je souffrais était très pauvre en B12. Il est assez courant que des maux physiques soient confondus avec des problèmes psychiatriques et que des personnes soient maltraitées avec des médicaments psychiatriques au lieu de traiter le mal physique sous-jacent et que, si la personne ne réagit pas au médicament psychiatrique, elle est supposée avoir besoin de plus de médicaments psychiatriques. . Cependant, je prenais du Paxil depuis environ trois ans et je souffrais d’effets secondaires typiques. Je suis progressivement devenu très démotivé. Bien sûr, j'avais les effets secondaires sexuels et j'ai finalement décidé de quitter Paxil parce que cela ne me faisait aucun bien.

 

Je suis donc allé à UCSF, qui est une institution médicale de premier plan ici, à l'Université de San Francisco, à San Francisco. Je pensais que leurs psychiatres sauraient me retirer de Paxil. Il s’est avéré qu’ils ne savaient absolument rien au sujet de la diminution progressive du nombre de patients et lorsque j’ai eu le syndrome de sevrage sévère, ils n’ont pas pris les mesures qui s’imposaient, à savoir rétablir immédiatement le médicament. Au lieu de cela, ils pensaient que je faisais une rechute et que je n'avais aucun lien avec la réalité, car je souffrais manifestement du syndrome de sevrage avec zaps, cerveau, etc. Depuis cette époque, il y a huit ans, j'ai beaucoup appris sur le syndrome de sevrage et je suis probablement l'un des six meilleurs experts au monde en matière de syndrome de sevrage et de réduction progressive de la consommation de drogue.

 

J'ai lancé un site Web appelé antidépresseurs survivants, dot org, qui fournit aux utilisateurs des informations spécifiques sur la manière de réduire progressivement l'utilisation de médicaments spécifiques. En d'autres termes, si vous êtes sur Risperdal, un sujet explique comment titrer Risperdal. Si vous êtes sur Effexor, un sujet décrit comment titrer Effexor. Il est très important d’abandonner ces médicaments progressivement. La lenteur dépend de votre système nerveux individuel, mais je ne saurais trop insister sur l’importance pour vous de partir progressivement, de façon à ne pas être comme moi au fond. Il y a beaucoup de gens qui viennent sur mon site Web qui sont partis de froid et souffrent terriblement. Et il n'y a rien qui puisse être fait pour eux. Si un certain temps s'est écoulé et que nous ne pouvons pas rétablir le médicament, ils ne peuvent qu'attendre la guérison.

 

Laissez-moi vous parler un peu des symptômes de sevrage. Ces zaps cérébraux ne sont pas juste un petit problème mineur. Je les ai eues pendant six mois, ce qui est long, mais ce n’est pas un problème mineur, même si elles durent deux jours. Qu'est-ce qu'ils sont, c'est une activité électrique anormale dans votre cerveau. C'est une forme d'épilepsie. Ce n'est pas quelque chose qu'un cerveau normal devrait connaître. Il existe d'autres symptômes de sevrage tels que la désorientation, la confusion, l'incapacité de se concentrer, l'incapacité de dormir. Tout cela parle d'un système nerveux très malheureux. Vous ne voulez pas stresser votre système nerveux comme ça. Mon problème Je souffre de troubles du système nerveux autonome depuis huit ans à cause du syndrome de sevrage de Paxil et je vous exhorte à ne pas déséquilibrer votre système nerveux autonome. Il court tout dans votre corps. Il exécute votre respiration. Il fonctionne votre fréquence cardiaque. Votre tonus musculaire circule et si vous le contrariez en allant trop vite, la récupération peut prendre beaucoup de temps.

 

La bonne nouvelle est que vous récupérez avec le temps. La mauvaise nouvelle est que le syndrome de sevrage risque de vous rendre hypersensible aux médicaments, y compris ceux que vous voudrez peut-être prendre comme l'anesthésie pour les opérations majeures, et il est très difficile pour les médecins de traiter des problèmes médicaux réels, tels que des problèmes cardiaques. Pour moi, il n’ya vraiment pas de traitement médicamenteux car je suis hypersensible aux médicaments et mon problème cardiaque va probablement nécessiter une intervention chirurgicale, ce qui n’est pas une bonne option pour moi. Donc, la faveur que je veux vous demander est. Oh, laissez-moi revenir un peu en arrière. Très bien, je tiens à vous dire que la bonne nouvelle est que vous pouvez cesser de prendre des médicaments psychiatriques en toute sécurité. Vous pouvez absolument. L'astuce consiste à y aller assez lentement pour ne pas vous enfoncer dans les symptômes de sevrage. C'est vraiment important d'aller lentement. Cela exclut la dinde froide en tant qu'option de réduction progressive. Ce n'est pas une option effilée. S'il vous plaît, si vous connaissez des personnes qui envisagent de ne plus consommer de médicaments psychiatriques, demandez-leur de réduire leur consommation au lieu d'être un dindon sauvage, sinon ils pourraient se faire mal et se mettre dans un enfer psychiatrique sans médicaments pendant de nombreuses années.

 

Je vous remercie donc beaucoup de m'avoir écouté et je suis vraiment heureux d'avoir trouvé un créneau à la toute fin et j'espère que vous allez tous m'aider et aider à sauver des personnes de la blessure résultant du retrait de médicaments psychiatriques. Je vous remercie.

 

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merci beaucoup 😀

 

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getofflex

That is a very sobering tale of Altostrata's experience.  I think she has the grounds for a lawsuit.  How can the healthcare community allow such irresponsibility?  I thank God for this website.  I was tapering off Lexapro, and my psych told me to cut my pill in half for a month, then in half again for the 2nd month, and then go off.  Thank God I found this place!  It's a godsend. I'm now tapering very slowly as per this site's advice.  Altostrata you are in my prayers for total healing. 

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rola

@Altostrata

 

I wish you a happy new year thank you for all you do for us

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Altostrata

Thank you, rola! 😊 Happy new year to everyone in our community!

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