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I am curious what thoughts come to SA members' minds when they read about an internist online saying he/she is interested in mental health issues. I had the worst thought regarding a doctor I was reading about locally who said that. But then I saw that she had given talks in reversing diabetes so than I wondered if maybe I was prejudging her.

 

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Drug cocktail 1995 - 2010
Started taper of Adderall, Wellbutrin XL, Remeron, and Doxepin in 2006
Finished taper on June 10, 2010

Temazepam on a PRN basis approximately twice a month - 2014 to 2016

Beginning in 2017 - Consumption increased to about two times per week

April 2017 - Increased to taking it full time for insomnia

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I wouldn't make any assumptions if that is all I knew...(meaning just a declaration of interest) 

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although to be fair most people who say that are going to have mainstream beliefs...still beyond understanding that as a reality I would allow for just about anything...

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I really think that only psychiatrists should be prescribing psych meds. 

07.2004 Prozac. Greadually increased to 40mg. Good control of depression, but eventually developed muscle spasms and akathesia.

08.2010 Switched to Celexa. Suicidal ideation was constant.  Unable to sleep without ambien.

05.2012 Switched to Zoloft. Absolutely the BEST control of depression but caused severe bloating and rapid weight gain. Acne.

11.00.2012 Returned to Prozac 40mg

04.00.2013 Prozac 40mg + Wellbutrin 150mg

06.25.2013 Prozac 60mg and Wellbutrin 300mg

07.08.2013 GRAND MAL SEIZURE

07.09.2013 Prozac 40mg and Wellbutrin 300mg

07.26.2013 Prozac 40mg and Wellbutrin 150 mg

08.01.2014 Prozac 40mg and Wellbutrin ZERO

08.09.2013 Prozac 30.0 mg

09.13.2013 Prozac 27.5 mg

10.04.2013 Prozac 25.0 mg

10.25.2013 Prozac 22.5 mg

11.15.2013 Prozac 20.0 mg

12.06.2013 Prozac 15.0 mg

12.21.2013 Prozac 10.0 mg

 

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psychiatrists are specially trained to prescribe really badly. I have to laugh at that...sorry... :P

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I am developing a serious phobia of psychiatrists. Besides my drama, both my dad and MIL were grossly mal-prescribed by psychiatrists, and general practitioners had to ID and fix the problems.

 

Just "interviewed" a pdoc and told him my BP had spiked to 180/110 as I am 2 months off an AD and I can feel the benzo shifting. He said, "I wonder why that would happen." I am going to try to convince my PCP to take over my care...at least he's scared of these drugs!

1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms.

Zyprexa started about 9/06, mostly 5mg. Tapered 4/12 through12/29/12

Wellbutrin. XL 300 mg started 1/07, tapered 1/18/13 through 7/8/13

Oxazepam mostly continuously since 6/06, 30mg since 12/12, tapered 1.17.14 through 8.26.15

11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble)

9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol

7.4.14 Started Walsh Protocol

56 years old

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yeah...I think when coming off drugs it's often a very good call to just get a prescriber that won't impede your progress...most psychiatrists won't believe what we've learned in communicating with 1000s of people coming off of meds...

Everything Matters: Beyond Meds 

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withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.
 

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I am developing a serious phobia of psychiatrists. Besides my drama, both my dad and MIL were grossly mal-prescribed by psychiatrists, and general practitioners had to ID and fix the problems.Just "interviewed" a pdoc and told him my BP had spiked to 180/110 as I am 2 months off an AD and I can feel the benzo shifting. He said, "I wonder why that would happen." I am going to try to convince my PCP to take over my care...at least he's scared of these drugs!

 

Wow! same symptoms as mine!.. Escitalopram caused my BP to go almost that high 140-170 or even close to that... and of course the pulse 100+.. I was traumatized by that and now i'm even scared to check my BP lol..

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I had blood pressure spikes off Paxil, too, caused by exaggerated reactions to other drugs and supplements. Welbutrin and rhodiola were a particular potent combination.

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I have a serious phobia of ALL doctors now, especially because the majority are under the umbrella of the 2 hospitals whose outpatient psych programs I admitted myself to in 2008 to fill my days.

 

When I hear the TV commercials warning of stolen medical identities, I think "PLEASE steal mine!".

Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc).

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I have a serious phobia of ALL doctors now, especially because the majority are under the umbrella of the 2 hospitals whose outpatient psych programs I admitted myself to in 2008 to fill my days.When I hear the TV commercials warning of stolen medical identities, I think "PLEASE steal mine!".

 

Thank you thank you for making me laugh. :D

My old pdoc put in open hosptial records I was crazy so I'm officially outted to everyone who has access to my records. I can hope time and paperwork will hide this and if one day I have to go back in (surgery or very ill) I won't be treated as horribly as I was on an ICU step down unit by the staff docs who saw my psych diagnosis. Being called mentally ill by them was just wrong.

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Link to my Introduction thread: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2477-aria-my-psych-journey/

Reading my psychiatric records: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/5466-drugged-crazy-reading-my-psychiatric-records/

My Success Story is listed under "Aria's Recovery".

 

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I have a serious phobia of ALL doctors now, especially because the majority are under the umbrella of the 2 hospitals whose outpatient psych programs I admitted myself to in 2008 to fill my days.When I hear the TV commercials warning of stolen medical identities, I think "PLEASE steal mine!".

Same here Barb. That is why I haven't sought treatment from another sleep doctor in spite of continuing to struggle with pap therapy.  I just fear they are going to blame it on insomnia and throw a pill at the problem when as soon as I take off the mask, I can fall back asleep although obviously, sleeping with apneas is not a good thing.

 

Regarding your situation, I definitely understand why you would be afraid.  Even though I never was in any hospital programs, I still have a fear that electronic medical records will out my past psych med history.

Drug cocktail 1995 - 2010
Started taper of Adderall, Wellbutrin XL, Remeron, and Doxepin in 2006
Finished taper on June 10, 2010

Temazepam on a PRN basis approximately twice a month - 2014 to 2016

Beginning in 2017 - Consumption increased to about two times per week

April 2017 - Increased to taking it full time for insomnia

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I am developing a serious phobia of psychiatrists. Besides my drama, both my dad and MIL were grossly mal-prescribed by psychiatrists, and general practitioners had to ID and fix the problems.Just "interviewed" a pdoc and told him my BP had spiked to 180/110 as I am 2 months off an AD and I can feel the benzo shifting. He said, "I wonder why that would happen." I am going to try to convince my PCP to take over my care...at least he's scared of these drugs!

Everyone thinks that psychiatrists are alot more knowledgeable about psych meds and your situation proves that once again, this theory is so wrong.

Drug cocktail 1995 - 2010
Started taper of Adderall, Wellbutrin XL, Remeron, and Doxepin in 2006
Finished taper on June 10, 2010

Temazepam on a PRN basis approximately twice a month - 2014 to 2016

Beginning in 2017 - Consumption increased to about two times per week

April 2017 - Increased to taking it full time for insomnia

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I really think that only psychiatrists should be prescribing psych meds. 

 

I think that NO ONE should be allowed to prescribe these poisons except in extreme, suicidal emergencies, and then for only a short period of time while the person's environment and/or attitude is improved past the point of danger to self or others. I also believe the reasons for prescribing these drugs should have to be documented at least as extensively as the requirements for prescribing opiates.

 

Psychiatrists are the absolute worst, IMO, when it comes to whipping out the prescription pad as a first resort for any sort of complaint.  So often there's a real but undetected reason for anxiety, depression, and other manifestations of what is usually and carelessly deemed "mental illness". But it's cheap and easy to just write a script and let the underlying cause fester and worsen.

Psychotropic drug history: Pristiq 50 mg. (mid-September 2010 through February 2011), Remeron (mid-September 2010 through January 2011), Lexapro 10 mg. (mid-February 2011 through mid-December 2011), Lorazepam (Ativan) 1 mg. as needed mid-September 2010 through early March 2012

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Hanlon's Razor


Introduction: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1588-introducing-jemima/

 

Success Story: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/6263-success-jemima-survives-lexapro-and-dr-dickhead-too/

Please note that I am not a medical professional and my advice is based on personal experience, reading, and anecdotal information posted by other sufferers.

 

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Great points Jemima. But sadly, I think maintream doctors are giving them competion as to presribing drugs for any type of complaint in light of the fact that they can't spend an adequate amount of time trying to figure out the problem. The worse example I read of was on NPR when a doctor prescribed an antidepressant to an elderly patient who was despressed over his cognitive deterioration.

 

The poor guy commited suicide over what seemed to me to be adverse affects from the med.   So what this physician do?  He advocates more screening for depression: :angry:

 

Anyway, one reason why I tend to make assumptions that I realize may be unfair about doctors who express an interest in mental health is that several years ago, I went to see a potential primary care physician who had done this on his website.   When I told him I was tapering off of psych med, he said in reponse that he felt many people with depression needed to be on meds for life. Even though I think he would have been a great physician in many ways, that response was a complete turnoff to me.

Drug cocktail 1995 - 2010
Started taper of Adderall, Wellbutrin XL, Remeron, and Doxepin in 2006
Finished taper on June 10, 2010

Temazepam on a PRN basis approximately twice a month - 2014 to 2016

Beginning in 2017 - Consumption increased to about two times per week

April 2017 - Increased to taking it full time for insomnia

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My experience has been that the primary care docs screwed up small issues and the pdocs screwed up big, complicated things. I think a big part of the problem goes back to our culture...we believe we should feel good all the time, and our doctors think they are doing a good job when they help us feel good. We don't have a mindset that suffering has meaning, either in alerting to a deeper problem, or teaching and maturing us. And we should always be well enough to function in our roles, no matter how many chemicals it takes.

1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms.

Zyprexa started about 9/06, mostly 5mg. Tapered 4/12 through12/29/12

Wellbutrin. XL 300 mg started 1/07, tapered 1/18/13 through 7/8/13

Oxazepam mostly continuously since 6/06, 30mg since 12/12, tapered 1.17.14 through 8.26.15

11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble)

9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol

7.4.14 Started Walsh Protocol

56 years old

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Back to your original question - I would be willing to explore an internist who had indicated an interest in mental health issues.  It is possible that such a doctor might be aware of the role that vitamin B12, thyroid and other internal things play in symptoms identified as mental health issues. 

 

But I may be an exception ... when I meet with a health care provider, I'm in charge.  It is like the time they thought I had sarcoidosis ... I asked what the symptoms were, and it turns out I didn't have any of the symptoms.  So the doc wanted to do a chest x-ray to be sure that I either did or didn't have it and I asked what the treatment would be if the chest x-ray indicated that I did have sarcoidosis.  He said that they only treat the symptoms.  So I said since I don't have any symptoms then there is nothing to treat and therefore no reason to expose my body to radation.  He had to agree - no chest x-ray.

 

All this to say that you have to be your own advocate.  Sometimes the best we can expect is to have a doc that will at least allow us to manage our own health and supply the needed lab requisitions and prescriptions.

 

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2007 @ 375 mg Effexor - 11/29/2011 - 43.75 mg Effexor (regular) & .625 mg Xanax

200 mg Gabapentin 2/27/21 - 194.5 mg, 5/28/21 - 183 mg, 8/2/21 - 170 mg, 11/28/21 - 150 mg, 4/19/22 - 122 mg; 8//7/22 - 100 mg; 12/17 - 75mg
Xanax taper: 3/11/12 - 0.9375 mg, 3/25/12 - 0.875 mg, 4/6/12 - 0.8125 mg, 4/18/12 - 0.75 mg; 1/16 0.6875 mg; at some point 0.625 mg
Effexor taper: 1/29/12 - 40.625 mg, 4/29/12 - 39.875 mg, 5/11/12 - Switched to liquid Effexor, 5/25/12 - 38 mg, 7/6/12 - 35 mg, 8/17/12 - 32 mg, 9/14/12 - 30 mg, 10/19/12 - 28 mg, 11/9/12 - 26 mg, 11/30/12 - 24 mg, 01/14/13 - 22 mg. 02/25/13 - 20.8 mg, 03/18/13 - 19.2 mg, 4/15/13 - 17.6 mg, 8/10/13 - 16.4 mg, 9/7/13 - 15.2 mg, 10/19/13 - 14 mg, 1/15/14 - 13.2 mg, 3/1/2014 - 12.6 mg, 5/4/14 - 12 mg, 8/1/14 - 11.4 mg, 8/29/14 - 10.8 mg; 10/14/14 - 10.2 mg; 12/15/14 - 10 mg, 1/11/15 - 9.5 mg, 2/8/15 - 9 mg, 3/21/15 - 8.5 mg, 5/1/15 - 8 mg, 6/9/15 - 7.5 mg, 7/8/15 - 7 mg, 8/22/15 - 6.5 mg, 10/4/15 - 6 mg; 1/1/16 - 5.6 mg; 2/6/16 - 5.2 mg; 4/9 - 4.8 mg; 7/7 4.5 mg; 10/7 4.25 mg; 11/4 4.0 mg; 11/25 3.8 mg; 4/24 3.6 mg; 5/27 3.4 mg; 7/8 3.2 mg ... 10/18 2.8 mg; 1/18 2.6 mg; 4/7 2.4 mg; 5/26 2.15mg; 8/18 1.85 mg; 10/7 1.7 mg; 12/1 1.45 mg; 3/2 1.2 mg; 5/4 0.90 mg; 6/1 0.80 mg; 6/22 0.65 mg; 08/03 0.50 mg, 08/10 0.45 mg, 10/05 0.325 mg, 11/23 0.2 mg, 12/14 0.15 mg, 12/21 0.125 mg, 02/28 0.03125 mg, 2/15 0.015625 mg, 2/29/20 0.00 mg - OFF Effexor


I am not a medical professional - this is not medical advice. My suggestions are based on personal experience, reading, observation and anecdotal information posted by other sufferers

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