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Audio Tracks for Depression, Anxiety, & Recovery -- includes Binaural Beats & Isochronic Tones

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GiaK

I posted these in a thread but only one person has downloaded them according to the stats so i wanted to give better access to them because they're really very helpful to me and I know they've been helpful to a lot of other folks in withdrawal too.

 

I have a set of CDs that have simply at times worked wonders allowing me to rest, if not sleep. These tracks are no longer available for sale so I uploaded them that you might be able to use them too. See what you think.

 

These are actually a very expensive set of highly technological sound science...the company went out of business, but I think not for lack of quality, but instead poor marketing.

 

The first 3 tracks are the first CD...they are the beginning...and you're supposed to work your way up...I found that it was really like that...where I didn't even tolerate the others for a long time.

 

Of note: when my nervous system was most deeply fried, even these Tracks irritated me. It took a couple of years before I tolerated them. Most people, however, find them helpful long before I did. I know several people who really like them. We’ve done some passing around of them among ourselves in benzo withdrawal circles.

 

The first three tracks were my favorites for a long time but now I've moved on to the others too...the first three are the gentlest and for a long time were the ones that worked best...now with more resilience I like them all...they all do different things.

 

I sometimes just listen to them on a loop for hours. It’s good for relaxing any time of the day and it can also help me meditate when the chaos in my autonomic system is too loud to manage without the CDs.

 

VERY IMPORTANT -- USE HEADPHONES

 

https://www.box.com/s/qjfyu6jrwncmbem70bl5

 

https://www.box.com/s/ow6p9sfwvljy0j0uprbd

 

https://www.box.com/s/9lji9f7ms2pyjiedmsbs

 

https://www.box.com/s/1237dcwe8maq9dg100na

 

https://www.box.com/s/au3fyesn9hs5uban00ij

 

https://www.box.com/s/u6rwsr3tzngy8dhphiok

 

they're really fantastic and now they're free...


Everything Matters: Beyond Meds 

https://beyondmeds.com/

withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.
 

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Altostrata

I'm going to download them as soon as I get the time.


This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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tezza

I will try to download them soon. Thank you for sharing, Gianna. I don't know if I've ever told you so in case I haven't, thank you for your blog.

 

I'm not at all sure I'd have what it takes to do all that you and Alto have done and are still doing. I've thought about that many times. I have a lot of admiration and respect for both of y'all for the great things y'all do to help so many people when you're both still suffering.

 

It surely takes a lot of dedication, discipline and self-control, just to name a few things. I can't thank you both enough!

 

Love,

Tezza

 

(And that is just a few things, I've thought of many other things)

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fefesmom

Gia

 

These are beautiful; I listened to a bit of each.

I am technically a novice; can I download them onto my ipod? What do you mean by download? To the laptop?

Help!

I can listen on my computer if that is the only way.

Thanks a lot for them.

FM

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Aria

I listened to the first two and they are so soothing. I need to figure out how to download them to CD's for use when in recliner. Do I need to join the site to be able to do this beside just downloading them online? I'm not very tech savvy.

 

I appreciate you letting us know about these because I had seen the cost of ordering something similar a while back. :)


Poly drugged for 18 years with every psychiatric drug in the PDR. C/t off Seroquel, tapered trazodone, celexa, dalmane, ativan (among others) and have been drug free for years. I thank the heavens I survived.

Link to my Introduction thread: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2477-aria-my-psych-journey/

Reading my psychiatric records: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/5466-drugged-crazy-reading-my-psychiatric-records/

My Success Story is listed under "Aria's Recovery".

 

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peggy

Thank you Gia, that is very generous of you.

 

Are they formulated specially for relaxation? And why do we need to use headphones?


Started in 2000 - On 150mg most of the time, (but up to 225mg at highest dose for 6 months in the beginning)
Reduced off easily first time - but got depressed (not too much anxiety) 6 months later
Back on effexor for another 9 months.
Reduced off again with no immediate w/d - suddenly got depressed and anxious ++ again 3 or 4 months later.
Back on effexor - this time for 3 years
Reduced off over a month - 6 weeks later terrible anxiety - back on.
Rinse and repeat 4 more times - each time the period before the anxiety comes back got shorter and shorter
Jan - July 2012 75mg down to 37.5mg;, 8/3/12 - 35mg. 8/25/12 - 32mg. 9/11- 28mg, 10/2 - 25mg, 10/29 - 22mg, 11/19 - 19.8mg; 12/11 - 17m,
1/1- 15.5mg; 1/22 -14mg, 2/7 14.9mg, 2/18 - 17.8mg - crashed big time: back to 75mg where i sat for 2 years....

4th  March 2015 - 67.5mg;   31st March - 60mg;  24th April - 53mg; 13th May - 48mg; 26th May - 45mg;  9th June - 41mg; 1 July- 37.5mg; 20 July - 34mg; 11 August - 31mg; 1st Sept - 28mg;  1st Dec - 25.8mg;  28th Dec - 23.2mg; 23rd Jan-21.9mg; Feb 7th- 21mg; March 1st - 20.1mg, March 30th - 18mg

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GiaK

first...I don't know much about mp3 technology either...they should be downloadable to iPOD, CDs, the computer...all...do what makes sense for your needs...click on the download button...I do imagine you need to first download to the computer (iTunes or whatever) and then transfer to iPod or CD if that is what you want to do...

 

The headphones are necessary because the recorded sounds are put together with precision and so you only hear certain sounds etc with the aid of the headphones...it's okay to listen without headphones but you'll miss much of the subtly...that's all.


Everything Matters: Beyond Meds 

https://beyondmeds.com/

withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.
 

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GiaK

and no...I do not believe joining the site is necessary...I've not used the site beyond uploading these files unfortunately, however.


Everything Matters: Beyond Meds 

https://beyondmeds.com/

withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.
 

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GiaK

Tezza,

thank you...

If I could make a suggestion: to put aside comparing if at all possible...I strongly believe we all do what we need to do and what we're called to do...it may look different from the outside but if we're responding, basically, to that which we are (deep inside) then we are doing our work. That is always enough and as it should be

 

:)


Everything Matters: Beyond Meds 

https://beyondmeds.com/

withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.
 

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GiaK

Just FYI...

 

I did a post on the blog with them now too...I added some additional info:

 

http://beyondmeds.com/2013/03/05/soothing-healing-sound/

 

this was the most important stuff I added:

 

They are calming, but for me, they also allow me to meditate and process some of the loud noise and chaos that is part of the drug damage. It helps me process and ease both the drug damage and the layers of trauma I was never allowed to feel as a result of the drugging. When a lot of processing (heavy meditation) is going on the CDs may not be exactly calming, but they allow me to be with the pain and chaos I would otherwise have to distract myself from. When too exhausted to distract these CDs are a godsend. They allow me to be with the pain in acceptance and deep healing meditation. I’m a firm believer that we cannot heal what we do not feel.

 

 


Everything Matters: Beyond Meds 

https://beyondmeds.com/

withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.
 

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Gardner

thanks for the link

I tried to sign up for this using my email and password

I used my Nexus 7

I didn't see a section that said you had to pay for it.

I need something like this.

I couldn't hear it to see if it was something calming that would help me

I've been reading your blogs and finding them quite helpful-

 

Judy or Gardner on SA forum

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GiaK

they're free...you don't have to pay for it...


Everything Matters: Beyond Meds 

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withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.
 

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Outshined

I am technically a novice; can I download them onto my ipod?

Yes you should be able to listen them with your IPod : http://www.ehow.com/info_7889828_ipod-support-m4a-m3u-jpg.html


From 2001 to 2010, I took almost continuosly a host of different SSRIs , including Prozac, Celexa and Paxil, plus various benzodiazepines and Bupropion for a limited period of time.

 

From July 2010 to April 2012 >> Duloxetine, dose ranging from 60mg to 120mg.

 

From August 2012 to September 2012 >> reinstated 30 mg of Duloxetine

 

From September 2012 until present days >> Valproic Acid/Sodium Valproate, dose ranging from 300mg to 1000mg. Now I'm on 400mg. I've also taken Amisulpride (50mg) for 9 days and Abilify (10ml) only once.

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Gardner

thanks so much I finally got all downloaded

I think it WILL be a big help and I'm so grateful

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strawberry17

Thanks, I'm downloading these, always looking for anything like this.


*** Please note this is not medical advice,discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner***





http://prozacwithdrawal.blogspot.com/
Original drug was sertraline/Zoloft, switched to Prozac in 2007.
Tapering from 5mls liquid prozac since Feb 2008, got down to 0.85ml 23/09/2012, reinstated back to 1ml(4mg) 07/11/2012, didn't appear to work, upped to 1.05ml 17/11/2012, back down to 1ml 12/12/2012 didn't work, up to 1.30ml 16/3/2013 didn't work, bumped up to 2ml (8mg) 4/4/2013 didn't work, in July 2013 I reinstated Sertraline (Zoloft) 50mg, feeling better now. 

A few months down the line I switched to 5ml liquid Prozac and tapered down to a compromise dose of 3ml liquid Prozac and have stayed there ever since, no withdrawals and no emotional blunting/loss of libido.

 

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Aria

I tried to download them to CD's but the site said "the user hosting this content is out of bandwidth and if this is your file please upgrade to add more bandwidth credits to your account" (?) Will ask a friend later to see what can be done. The music sounds wonderful when I listened to it online.


Poly drugged for 18 years with every psychiatric drug in the PDR. C/t off Seroquel, tapered trazodone, celexa, dalmane, ativan (among others) and have been drug free for years. I thank the heavens I survived.

Link to my Introduction thread: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2477-aria-my-psych-journey/

Reading my psychiatric records: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/5466-drugged-crazy-reading-my-psychiatric-records/

My Success Story is listed under "Aria's Recovery".

 

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GiaK

oh...that means my account has a limit...which I was not aware of...since I don't get paid for my work I will not be buying more bandwith...sorry...maybe next month of something there will be access again...


Everything Matters: Beyond Meds 

https://beyondmeds.com/

withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.
 

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GiaK

yes...the account ran out of bandwidth for the month...if you were not successful in downloading them, try again next month...


Everything Matters: Beyond Meds 

https://beyondmeds.com/

withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.
 

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GiaK

Just FYI...I put a note on the post saying to check back next month but I also suggested if anyone wants them now they can donate the $9.99 to upgrade the account so that downloads can resume...I'll let you know if someone does that...otherwise...it will be next month.


Everything Matters: Beyond Meds 

https://beyondmeds.com/

withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.
 

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GiaK

UPDATE:

 

the account was upgraded thanks to the kind donation from a reader.

 

you may start downloading the mp3s again.


Everything Matters: Beyond Meds 

https://beyondmeds.com/

withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.
 

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Francis

Thanks so much for posting these.

Are these tracks specifically designed for certain brain waves and is that why it is recommended to listen with headphones? (delta, theta... etc)

Thanks!

Francis


2003-2010 up and down 10-40mg celexa for anxiety
2/2011 10mg
8/2011 5mg for 3 wks, then stopped completely.
middle of night waking after apx 1-2 hours of sleep (nightly), panic/jitteriness after waking
11/11 back on 30mg celexa, ambien/many supplements-insomnia/panic.
2/12 30mg celexa, many supplements (Magnesium eliminated morning tight chest/jitteriness). Off ambien!
7/12 20mg
8/12 15 mg(sleep improving,mood pos)
12/12 2.3 mg got liquid celexa!
1/13 2.1 mg
3/13 1.2 mg
4/13 down to .6 too quickly- cortisol spikes, middle of night waking, night sweats...
4/13 held at .6 for 3 weeks so far. Off most supplements as well. Withdrawal depression almost gone!

7/13 OFF OF CELEXA!!!

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GiaK

yes...they're brain entrainment CDs

 

by the way...they've started making me too stimulated...but this is after months of them helping me profoundly...

 

still it's worth noting they're powerful and can really do different things depending on the condition of said brain!


Everything Matters: Beyond Meds 

https://beyondmeds.com/

withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.
 

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Equanimity

One of the tools I have found that really help me when I am feeling anxiety is binaural beat sound waves that I found on-line and then downloaded onto an MP3 player.  You do need headphones to get the full effect.  I was pleasantly surprised how much this helps!

 

Here is just one of thousands of links I found on youtube.  You can found the countless others listed on the right side of the page where I found this one video:

 

 

I am grateful to those who allow us to download for free and then donate to their work in this area.  I have downloaded several types for different brain waves.  The theory is different sound waves like the theta wave, for example, can persuade our brains to either relax or they can help the brain/mind move through and clear our chakras.  There is a plethora of information on this theory on-line for you to read.  Look at the links below the videos for more information.

 

It is a great way to meditate when our brains are just all over the place and our regular meditation session is just not happening.  This method helps my brain to follow the waves and calm down and then I am either ready to meditate or, it has helped me to fall asleep at times.  There are binaural beats for sleep too.

 

Happy hunting on this subject.  It is amazing how I have found such wonderful help in using different modalities for anxiety and sadness here on-line.  It is valerian root through my headphones!


1977-2001 Valium 5mg. PRN (and later years I PRNed too much)., 2001 Prozac, but changed quickly to Paxil for 6 months, then tapered over 8 weeks.

2002 Klonopin 1 mg., Celexa 30 mg. had "manic" response (was labeled bi-polar) so Neurontin was added after trying Depakote, Geodon, Risperadal, Zyprexa.

2003 Trileptal was added and Neurontin discontinued. Hair fell out and Trileptal was discontinued.,

2004 Now 6 mg. Klonopin, Lexapro 20 mg. (instead of Celexa) Lamictal 125 mg. instead of Trileptal.

2009 Now 3 mg. Klonopin reduced from 6 mg. after swallowing all the pills and lived to tell about it. Wellbutrin was added, then Rozerem 8 mg. and stayed on Lexapro 20 mg. and Lamictal at 100 mg. (Seroquel and Effexor were tried, but quickly discontinued.)

2011 Successfully tapered from Klonopin 3 mg. to 2 mg. that year in .25 mg. increments.

2012 Successfully tapered off Wellbutrin and discontinued Rozerem replacing it with melatonin. Tapered another 1/2 mg. of Klonopin.

2013 Tapered off Lexapro 10 mg. in January and February, tapered down to 75 mg. of Lamictal in February. Went to a holistic clinic for a month in March and tapered 1 1/2 mg. off Klonopin to 0 by March 13th. Finished Lexapro taper of 10 mg. during the spring and then the last 75 mg. of Lamictal in the summer. All done by July 21st 2013.  Withdrawal symptoms (both physical and emotional) up the ying-yang.  

10/22/13 Right now am suffering from unrelenting vertigo, crying spells, some anxiety.  Definite periods of hope and homeostasis. 

 

My introductory post:  http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/5118-equanimity-asking-for-help-for-unrelenting-vertigo-due-to-withdrawal/

 

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THIS TOO SHALL PASS.

     

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Narcissus

I saw a therapist at the height of my withdrawal and she had me do this exercise.  I remember finding it helpful, I'm going to try it again and report back.  

 

I love your signature!  

 

 

THIS TOO SHALL PASS.

     

I think of this as being the sort of unspoken SA motto.


3 Years 150 mgs Effexor

2 month taper down to zero

3 terrible weeks at zero

Back up to 75 mgs

2 months at 75

6 or so months back to regular dose of 150 - was able to restabilize fine.

3 month taper back to zero

1 HORRENDOUS week at zero

2 days back up to 37.5

3 days back up to 75

One week at 150 - unable to stabilize.

Back down to 75 mgs

At 75 mgs (half original dose) and suffering withdrawal symptoms since October 2012.

 

"It is a radical cure for all pessimism to become ill, to remain ill for a good while, and then grow well for a still longer period." - Nietzsche

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GiaK

I've found some of this stuff very helpful too...brain entrainment stuff...I have a bunch of free downloads on the blog here: 

 

http://beyondmeds.com/2013/03/05/soothing-healing-sound/

 

 -- those mp3s were incredibly helpful for a couple of years

 

 

that said, I've also found some of this stuff to be mess with me big time...plays into the dysregulation and sets me sailing into nasty rebounds...and I did get sensitive to the ones I shared above as well...but first they helped me for a good long while

 

especially nasty was the Profound Meditation Programs...and before I realized what it was doing I thought it was fantastic so it pays to be wary...I had no idea that some people react to this stuff...and it's not unheard of...there are warnings on these recordings for a reason.

 

anyway, as usual I'm more hypersensitive than most but I know some of you are like me so be cautious. 


Everything Matters: Beyond Meds 

https://beyondmeds.com/

withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.
 

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Nadia

I've used these as well, and found them to be helpful and calming at times, but I think like GiaK I have to be careful not to overdo it.


'94-'08 On/off ADs. Mostly Zoloft & Wellbutrin, but also Prozac, Celexa, Effexor, etc.
6/08 quit Z & W after tapering, awful anxiety 3 mos. later, reinstated.
11/10 CTed. Severe anxiety 3 mos. later & @ 8 mos. much worse (set off by metronidazole). Anxiety, depression, anhedonia, DP, DR, dizziness, severe insomnia, high serum AM cortisol, flu-like feelings, muscle discomfort.
9/11-9/12 Waves and windows of recovery.
10/12 Awful relapse, DP/DR. Hydrocortisone?
11/12 Improved fairly quickly even though relapse was one of worst waves ever.

1/13 Best I've ever felt.

3/13 A bit of a relapse... then faster and shorter waves and windows.

4/14 Have to watch out for triggers, but feel completely normal about 80% of the time.

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Petunia

Binaural beats, or binaural tones, are auditory processing artifacts, or apparent sounds, caused by specific physical stimuli.

 

The effect on the brainwaves depends on the difference in frequencies of each tone: for example, if 300 Hz was played in one ear and 310 in the other, then the binaural beat would have a frequency of 10 Hz.

 

There are 3 types of Brainwave Entrainment of differing popularity:
Binaural Beats, the most commonly known type of Brainwave Entrainment
Isochronic Tones, the second most commonly known type of Brainwave Entrainment
Monaural Beats, the third most commonly known type of Brainwave Entrainment

 

The description below the first video states:

 

◢ Binaural Beats can aid in stimulating cell regeneration in the body. Using frequency modulators, we are able to recreate the frequencies that encourage the treatment by allowing the nerves and cells to begin regeneration. This session uses a binaural beat of 2.0Hz which associates directly to nerve regeneration, and a carrier frequency of 111Hz which associates to cell regeneration. Relax your mind and set your intentions into your own physical healing and practice once a day for better results.

 

I don't know if any of this is true, or if it works, but I guess its possible and I don't think it would hurt to try.

 

Head phones are needed to get the proper effect.

 

Advanced Nerve and Cell Regeneration with Binaural Beats

 

Binaural Beats For Life - Pure nerve and cell regeneration "treatment"

(the volume on this one needs to be turned up to hear it properly)

 

 

Nerve Cell Regeneration And Relaxation, Isochronic Tones:

 

Brain Healing Binaural Beats:


I'm not a doctor.  My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one.

My Introduction Thread

Full Drug and Withdrawal History

Brief Summary

Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects

2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010

Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal

DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms

Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal)

May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins.

Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes

Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine

Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D

June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens.

Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered

Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days.

April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close.

VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from?



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VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes?



VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects?

VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes

 

 

 

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MostlyWater

I've seen this before. Many videos like that claim to enhance your memory, learning ability, intelligence, energy, mood, DNA.. almost anything you can imagine. 


Paxil from 2005 to July 2013. 30mg. 

Very short taper. 

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Mort81

Music therapy has shown to have a profound impact on the brain. I wouldn't doubt that this could work aswell.


Was on 30mg (Lexapro) for 7-8yrs20mg for 3 months (This was my choice my Doc wanted me to drop much faster)15 mg 2week10mg 2 weeks 5 mg 1 week0 since August 24th . PPI Dexlant  30 mg taper has begun. Cutting 20% currently.  using zantac as needed.  Benzo is currently 0.10mg 

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InvisibleUnless

binaural beats can have real physical and psychological effects.  my friend and i have done some experiments---he was put into a profound trance by one of the 'strongest' marketed meditative ones aptly named "hand of god".

 

but, i dont think they are capable of being more efficacious than 'natural' means of immersing in sound.  for example, spending some time at the beach, or in the middle of the forest, entails a ton of tones that have healing, regenerative, and otherwise biologically synchronizing properties (in addition to the other sensations, like EM fields, smells/particles, light exposure, etc)---many of them outside the bounds of normal human hearing.  plants and natural processes (like tidal waves, settling earth, etc) put off a lot of noise that our biology responds to even if we dont consciously hear it or realize it, and furthermore interact with tones we create (in our activities) or put off (in merely being).

 

they can be interesting for recreational experiments, but i would never pay money for any such thing, and dont think spending hours using them as meditation or unconscious healing tools is more beneficial than alternative means we have.  and, also to note, any research done into the specificity of reactions to tones requires highly detailed contextual explanations---the situation, duration, setting, regularity, and habits surrounding stuff like binaural beats have a huge impact on what they can and cant do.  its also much like smoking weed or drinking alcohol---around 80% of the bodily and psychological effects are produced through self-training, by enculturation and personal ritual.  we experience, for the most part, what we expect to (and the brilliance of capitalism is not providing for real needs, but rather creating in people tailor-made needs that will be met by each new product line).

 

music therapy, as Mort81 mentioned, is another really great sonic healing agent, and probably has a wider range of applications, especially when administered ritualistically.  people just need to find what works best for them.

 

two scientific notes: i dont think the creation of binaural beats (which is essentially endemic to the listening condition for humans, as opposed to an external environment of things interacting) is a simple addition/subtraction thing---theres more math involved to fully map the potential patterns from offsets.  secondly, the brain (or constituent parts) doesnt operate on/respond best to a single 'frequency' or 'wavelength', because the body, and each of its organs, are essentially a complicated biomechanical machine that regulates and operates through electronic pulses and fields/waves---theres a lot more variety, which is partly why a hyper-targeted approach like binaural beats (which inherently require a limited sonic approach) are essentially inferior to more holistic experiences (like rumbling surf) for most things theyd purport to promote.

 

sometimes using a scalpel is better than a sledgehammer, but keeping things super simple, like adding vitamins to foods for instance, often entails a superficial generation of tones that is lacking the beneficial suspension (substance---in this case sound substance) that helps our bodies take in and put to use what is being offered.  artificial vitamins and fortifying most foods does not create a healthier product, and can contribute more to IMbalancing a person than balancing him.  so, im not saying to never try or use stuff like binaural beats...just be properly skeptical, as everyone here has seemed so far, and find the best ways to get the most out of the experience.  check em out if youre intrigued, but take the same precautions you would with other forms of neuromanipulation and intoxication.


from 2005-2012, i spent 7 years taking 17 different psychotropic medications covering several classes.  i would be taking 3-7 medications at a time, and 6 out of the 17 medications listed below were maxed or overmaxed in clinical dosage before i moved on to trying the next unhelpful cocktail.
 
antidepressants (SSRIs, SNRIs, NDRIs, tetracyclics): zoloft, wellbutrin, effexor, lexapro, prozac, cymbalta, remeron
antipsychotics (atypical): abilify, zyprexa, risperdal, geodon
sleep aids (benzos, off-label antidepressants & antipsychotics, hypnotics): seroquel, temazepam, trazodone, ambien
anxiolytics: buspar
anticonvulsants: topamax
 
i tapered off all psychotropics from late 2011 through early 2013, one by one.  since quitting, ive been cycling through severe, disabling withdrawal symptoms spanning the gamut of the serious, less serious, and rather worrisome side effects of these assorted medications.  previous cross-tapering and medication or dosage changes had also caused undiagnosed withdrawal symptoms.
 
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Beachgirl26

Another question from the newbie here. I've run across binaural beats and isochronic tones recordings on YouTube, that are supposed to help calm people and even alleviate depression. Has anyone here had experience with them, good, bad or indifferent? Is it a bad idea to try them if you're on an antidepressant and/or trying to taper off? I felt kind of weird trying one out the first time, the second it actually seemed to help me feel better, since then not much reaction. 

 

Thanks again. I'm so glad to have found this forum!


Prescribed 10mg amitriptyline 8/2015

Upped to 25mg on 11/12/2015

Stopped during an illness late Jan/early Feb 2016

Restarted, then went to 3/4 pill 25mg

 

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Petunia

If they help and make you feel better, I think they would be fine. I've tried some of these recordings to help me relax, calm down and hopefully help with healing. I've found it difficult finding ones that don't get annoying real fast. But I've been particularly sensitive, so that's probably just me.

 

See: Binaural Beats for Depression, Anxiety and Recovery ...  * topics merged

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I'm not a doctor.  My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one.

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Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects

2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010

Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal

DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms

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Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes

Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine

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June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens.

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Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days.

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Michel

Hello, I have many years experience with binaural beats. Tried them first in 2011 and later again in 2013. Is it me or have you also noticed that the quality of binaural beats and rife frequencies have declined? Until 2014 most of them were pure tones with some having also pleasant music. But lately there has been a shift - most new offerings on YouTube promise everything - from making you a millionaire to changing your hair or eye color. Also the music pieces have become weird. Old binaural bests, isochronic tones, waves and Rife frequencies have better effect on me than the fancy new ones. Too bad YouTube search cannot ignore the post 2014 results. 

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Altostrata

Hello, Michel. What effect do binaural beats have on you?


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Rabe

Hi Michael...I agree.  There are still a few that are soothing but the others you speak of, for me, often increase my agitation and anxiety.


-Nardil 1976 < year, stopped. Reactions to AD's. Klonopin .5BID ?1990, 2.5mg ? til 2016

-Klonopin doubled Jan '16. Tapered to 2.25mg May '16 to Nov '16, Heart raced after 1 Lexapro, stopped. Reacting to Prevacid to tapered off. Nov

-November '16 Tapered .25mg Klonopin in hospital. Jan 2 '17 started Viibryd, 20mg from 2/20 to 6/10 '17,     

-20mg to 10mg Viibryd from 3/25 to 6/10 2017, 12/15 10% Viibryd taper...back up next day

-Clonazepam 2mg to 1.85mg 4/14 '17 to end November; taper to 1mg Clonazepam in hospital 9/1 tp 9/14 '17

-Feb '18 Amiloride .25mg  5/18 off Amiloride d/t react. Clonaz compounded  

-4/27 '18 Viibryd 9.5mg, 6/11 9.0 mg, 1/27 '19 Viibryd 8.75mg, ; Clonazepam .2mg 530pm and .7mg 1130pm, Premarin .3mg 830PM CARAFATE QID 2/27/19 to 3/5/19

-July 6'19 1/2 10mg Claritin 230pm, stopped it about July 18, started Oct 11 '19, 

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-NOW 1115am-Viibryd 7.75mg, 3pm-K+ 5mg, 515pm-Clonaz .2mg, 6pm-K+ 5mg, 830pm-Premarin .3mg,1115pm-Clonaz .9mg, 115am Carafate .5gm.

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