nz11 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Sounds like you got the tapering sorted. well done. Kitson have you considered the doing the wdl survey? Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment
Kitson Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 I saw the survey and I completed it. Thank you! Apr 09 2013 started taking 30mg Remeron Oct 10 2013 began tapering 27 mg Nov 07/ 24 mg Nov 27/ 22 mg Dec 20/ 20mg ***Stopped taper and reinstated back up to 30mg shortly afterwards due to the symptoms that I was taking Remeron for came back. The Exact Same symptoms. I wasn't willing to live through that again. 2nd attempt at tapering. Feb 20 2017/ 28 mg Mar 20/ 25 mg Apr 20/ 23 mg May 21/ 22mg June 21/ 21mg July 15/ 20mg Aug 5/ 19mg Aug22/18mg Oct 21/ 17 mg Nov 27/ 16 mg Dec 26/ 15mg Jan 27 2018/ 14mg Mar 1/ 13mg Mar 31/ 12 mg Apr 28/ 11mg May 27/ 10 mg July 7/ 9 mg Aug 4/ 8.1 mg Aug 31/ 7.2 mg Sept 29/ 6.3 mg Oct 28/ 5.6 mg Nov 26/ 5 mg Dec 25/ 4.5 mg 01/03/2020 .65 mg 03/11/20 - 0.36 mg- omg omw to being AD free! I also take 30mg Temazepam for sleep every night, Pulmicort 180mcg inhaler 2x/day for cough variant asthma, albuterol inhaler as needed, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, omega 3 fish oil, 400mg magnesium malate, potassium iodide, CBD oil 25 - 30mgs/day HOPE = Hold On, Pain Ends Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus dalsaan Posted August 27, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 27, 2017 HI Kitson, I'm an old timer remeron survivor. Not here much any more. I'm a bit worried you are going too fast. 17 days between drops isn't that much and if you keep going at that pace it might catch up with you. I understand the desperate need to get off but the important thing is to come off well, not quickly. Part of the reason why I am concerned is because I struggled a lot more the lower I got down. I would recommend that you do a bit of a hold soon and don't drop for two months or more. Don't think of this as a delay, think of it as an investment. Really cementing stability will allow you to keep moving forward with you taper. I wish you all the best D Please note - I am not a medical practitioner and I do not give medical advice. I offer an opinion based on my own experiences, reading and discussion with others.On Effexor for 2 months at the start of 2005. Had extreme insomnia as an adverse reaction. Changed to mirtazapine. Have been trying to get off since mid 2008 with numerous failures including CTs and slow (but not slow enough tapers)Have slow tapered at 10 per cent or less for years. I have liquid mirtazapine made at a compounding chemist. Was on 1.6 ml as at 19 March 2014. Dropped to 1.5 ml 7 June 2014. Dropped to 1.4 in about September. Dropped to 1.3 on 20 December 2014. Dropped to 1.2 in mid Jan 2015. Dropped to 1 ml in late Feb 2015. I think my old medication had run out of puff so I tried 1ml when I got the new stuff and it seems to be going ok. Sleep has been good over the last week (as of 13/3/15). Dropped to 1/2 ml 14/11/15 Fatigue still there as are memory and cognition problems. Sleep is patchy but liveable compared to what it has been in the past. DRUG FREE - as at 1st May 2017 >My intro post is here - http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2250-dalsaan Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted August 27, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 27, 2017 Many members find that as their dose gets lower they need to go slower. There is a discussion here: Why taper paper: dose-occupancy curves * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus bubble Posted August 27, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) There is a very important survey on drug WD at the moment. We might finally get some acknowledgement for all the suffering these drugs caused us. Adding your experience would be very valuable. It only takes a few minutes. They extended it because they got so many replies after Alto mobilised our members here but the more people join, the more powerful we are. https://roehamptonpsych.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_6gSHZN88sOmHDlr Edited August 27, 2017 by bubble Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2 2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013) Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg. 2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days afterreinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours 28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr 2015 1 mg, 25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64 Xanax 9 month hold 24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26 Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. Link to comment
nz11 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 9 hours ago, Kitson said: I saw the survey and I completed it. Thank you! Thats terrific! Good for you. Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment
Kitson Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 Hello Dalsaan and ChessieCat. I truly appreciate both of your experiences. I agree this last cut I did was kind of soon. I am trying to find my brain's balance between tapering too fast vs tapering too slow. At the same time, I don't want to experience severe WD symptoms. I've spent a lot of time reading other member's pain from too-fast tapers and/or CT and what they are going through is terrible. After reading your feedback and considering it, I have decided to hold for two months. I'm only doing 5% cuts but I am realizing the holds are just as important, if not more. I don't want a bunch of dosage cuts to catch up with me all at once. And I planned on holding longer at lower doses, I guess I just didn't mention it. I've read the thread about holding longer at lower doses and dose-occupancy curves. I was thinking around 15mg on down I would hold for longer. That sounded like a good lower number to start holding longer at, but that was just an arbitrary number I picked. A lower number for my brain may well be higher than that. I will always listen to my body/brain and adjust accordingly when necessary. Thank you guys for all that you do here. It is much appreciated. Apr 09 2013 started taking 30mg Remeron Oct 10 2013 began tapering 27 mg Nov 07/ 24 mg Nov 27/ 22 mg Dec 20/ 20mg ***Stopped taper and reinstated back up to 30mg shortly afterwards due to the symptoms that I was taking Remeron for came back. The Exact Same symptoms. I wasn't willing to live through that again. 2nd attempt at tapering. Feb 20 2017/ 28 mg Mar 20/ 25 mg Apr 20/ 23 mg May 21/ 22mg June 21/ 21mg July 15/ 20mg Aug 5/ 19mg Aug22/18mg Oct 21/ 17 mg Nov 27/ 16 mg Dec 26/ 15mg Jan 27 2018/ 14mg Mar 1/ 13mg Mar 31/ 12 mg Apr 28/ 11mg May 27/ 10 mg July 7/ 9 mg Aug 4/ 8.1 mg Aug 31/ 7.2 mg Sept 29/ 6.3 mg Oct 28/ 5.6 mg Nov 26/ 5 mg Dec 25/ 4.5 mg 01/03/2020 .65 mg 03/11/20 - 0.36 mg- omg omw to being AD free! I also take 30mg Temazepam for sleep every night, Pulmicort 180mcg inhaler 2x/day for cough variant asthma, albuterol inhaler as needed, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, omega 3 fish oil, 400mg magnesium malate, potassium iodide, CBD oil 25 - 30mgs/day HOPE = Hold On, Pain Ends Link to comment
AliG Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Kitson. It sounds like you are getting "the hang of HOLDING" and are also practicing it, in which case it should go well for you from hereon in if you can stick to the " slow, stable and steady" approach. Well done. Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted August 27, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 27, 2017 5 hours ago, Kitson said: I am trying to find my brain's balance between tapering too fast vs tapering too slow. It would seem from the experiences of many members here that there is no such thing as" tapering too slow". I realise that we want to get off the drug ASAP so we want to find the quickest way but it is much better to hold for longer/reduce by less than to go too quickly and risk it all catching up with us. When I first joined SA I wanted to be off my Pristiq by the time I turned 60 this November but that is not going to happen. Changing your thinking to how much you have reduced by in total, rather than what you still need to get off, can help. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Kitson Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 So last Tuesday/Wednesday I felt really off and got to experience neuro-anger. Not good at work, but I held it together and made it through those days. Thursday and Friday I felt okay until Friday night I had a rapid heart rate that would not slow down and I could not sleep. I counted my pulse and it was 120 bpm. I ended up taking three temazepam before I could get to sleep and I am only supposed to take one. But we were out of town visiting family and staying at a hotel and I had to be functioning for our visit. Last night I did sleep with only one temazepam and I had the rapid heartbeat. I did some googling and tried the vasalva maneuver and I'm not sure but I think it helped bring my heart rate down and I slept decently. I am most definitely going to hold for awhile. I have learned a very valuable lesson. We did have a nice visit and it was great to get out of town. Spent some time at a beautiful lake. Good trip. Apr 09 2013 started taking 30mg Remeron Oct 10 2013 began tapering 27 mg Nov 07/ 24 mg Nov 27/ 22 mg Dec 20/ 20mg ***Stopped taper and reinstated back up to 30mg shortly afterwards due to the symptoms that I was taking Remeron for came back. The Exact Same symptoms. I wasn't willing to live through that again. 2nd attempt at tapering. Feb 20 2017/ 28 mg Mar 20/ 25 mg Apr 20/ 23 mg May 21/ 22mg June 21/ 21mg July 15/ 20mg Aug 5/ 19mg Aug22/18mg Oct 21/ 17 mg Nov 27/ 16 mg Dec 26/ 15mg Jan 27 2018/ 14mg Mar 1/ 13mg Mar 31/ 12 mg Apr 28/ 11mg May 27/ 10 mg July 7/ 9 mg Aug 4/ 8.1 mg Aug 31/ 7.2 mg Sept 29/ 6.3 mg Oct 28/ 5.6 mg Nov 26/ 5 mg Dec 25/ 4.5 mg 01/03/2020 .65 mg 03/11/20 - 0.36 mg- omg omw to being AD free! I also take 30mg Temazepam for sleep every night, Pulmicort 180mcg inhaler 2x/day for cough variant asthma, albuterol inhaler as needed, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, omega 3 fish oil, 400mg magnesium malate, potassium iodide, CBD oil 25 - 30mgs/day HOPE = Hold On, Pain Ends Link to comment
Kitson Posted September 5, 2017 Author Share Posted September 5, 2017 Does anyone have personal experience with lithium orotate? My pdoc suggested I do some research on it as a possible sleep aid. She went to a seminar or something where they talked about it and now she's taking it herself because studies suggest it may help ward off Alzheimer's disease and she has a family hx of it. I already read the one thread about it on here and my google research shows mixed results. I am hoping to get some personal experience if anyone on here has taken it. Not that I'm going to start taking it. I'm still in the middle of my taper and I don't want to mess with it by taking something else. But maybe in the future, post-taper. Apr 09 2013 started taking 30mg Remeron Oct 10 2013 began tapering 27 mg Nov 07/ 24 mg Nov 27/ 22 mg Dec 20/ 20mg ***Stopped taper and reinstated back up to 30mg shortly afterwards due to the symptoms that I was taking Remeron for came back. The Exact Same symptoms. I wasn't willing to live through that again. 2nd attempt at tapering. Feb 20 2017/ 28 mg Mar 20/ 25 mg Apr 20/ 23 mg May 21/ 22mg June 21/ 21mg July 15/ 20mg Aug 5/ 19mg Aug22/18mg Oct 21/ 17 mg Nov 27/ 16 mg Dec 26/ 15mg Jan 27 2018/ 14mg Mar 1/ 13mg Mar 31/ 12 mg Apr 28/ 11mg May 27/ 10 mg July 7/ 9 mg Aug 4/ 8.1 mg Aug 31/ 7.2 mg Sept 29/ 6.3 mg Oct 28/ 5.6 mg Nov 26/ 5 mg Dec 25/ 4.5 mg 01/03/2020 .65 mg 03/11/20 - 0.36 mg- omg omw to being AD free! I also take 30mg Temazepam for sleep every night, Pulmicort 180mcg inhaler 2x/day for cough variant asthma, albuterol inhaler as needed, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, omega 3 fish oil, 400mg magnesium malate, potassium iodide, CBD oil 25 - 30mgs/day HOPE = Hold On, Pain Ends Link to comment
nz11 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 I have never taken lithium. Experience with my computer has taught me one thing and its this ....never be an early uptaker of technology.....this absolutely applies even more so imo to drugs from the doctor. If your doctor wants to be swayed by pharma funded seminars and dubious study claims then sobeit but why not take a non drug approach. Its noted that there are no systematic reviews supporting the efficacy of lithium orotate and it is not approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for the treatment of any medical condition. I Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment
rupa Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Best wishes kitson Cold turkeyed risperidone (1m.g)and trihexyphenidyl combination drug out of ignorance,In August 2016 after one month use. Withdrawal symptoms settled at dreamful,disturbing sleep. Thus introduced to olanzapine for sleep.Started using olanzapine out of ignorance. Tapering olanzapine 10 m.g from February 2017. May 2018 :Still suffering dreams,Still tapering olanzapine at 0.625.100ml water+2.5 mg olanzapine. June 2018 22.5ml=0.57mg.July 2018 20ml,August 2018-17.5ml,September 2018-15ml,October 2018 10 ml,December 2018 7 ml, BrassMonkey slide method so far at lower doses.2 nd December cold turkeyed , only to reach minure doses as reinstatement to cutshort endless tapering process.4rth December started 1ml. Almost no symptoms and sleep is better,So started 0.5 ml from 17-12-2018. "0"from31-12-18.Re birth happened from 10- 2020,as rejuvenation took whole2019.Completely recovered now. Link to comment
Kitson Posted September 6, 2017 Author Share Posted September 6, 2017 Yeah, I am skeptical about lithium orotate. My pdoc wasn't trying to push me into taking it, it was just a suggestion that I research it. I have done the research and have found it lacking. I won't be taking it. Apr 09 2013 started taking 30mg Remeron Oct 10 2013 began tapering 27 mg Nov 07/ 24 mg Nov 27/ 22 mg Dec 20/ 20mg ***Stopped taper and reinstated back up to 30mg shortly afterwards due to the symptoms that I was taking Remeron for came back. The Exact Same symptoms. I wasn't willing to live through that again. 2nd attempt at tapering. Feb 20 2017/ 28 mg Mar 20/ 25 mg Apr 20/ 23 mg May 21/ 22mg June 21/ 21mg July 15/ 20mg Aug 5/ 19mg Aug22/18mg Oct 21/ 17 mg Nov 27/ 16 mg Dec 26/ 15mg Jan 27 2018/ 14mg Mar 1/ 13mg Mar 31/ 12 mg Apr 28/ 11mg May 27/ 10 mg July 7/ 9 mg Aug 4/ 8.1 mg Aug 31/ 7.2 mg Sept 29/ 6.3 mg Oct 28/ 5.6 mg Nov 26/ 5 mg Dec 25/ 4.5 mg 01/03/2020 .65 mg 03/11/20 - 0.36 mg- omg omw to being AD free! I also take 30mg Temazepam for sleep every night, Pulmicort 180mcg inhaler 2x/day for cough variant asthma, albuterol inhaler as needed, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, omega 3 fish oil, 400mg magnesium malate, potassium iodide, CBD oil 25 - 30mgs/day HOPE = Hold On, Pain Ends Link to comment
Kitson Posted September 6, 2017 Author Share Posted September 6, 2017 13 hours ago, rupa said: Best wishes kitson Thank you, rupa Best wishes to you, also. Apr 09 2013 started taking 30mg Remeron Oct 10 2013 began tapering 27 mg Nov 07/ 24 mg Nov 27/ 22 mg Dec 20/ 20mg ***Stopped taper and reinstated back up to 30mg shortly afterwards due to the symptoms that I was taking Remeron for came back. The Exact Same symptoms. I wasn't willing to live through that again. 2nd attempt at tapering. Feb 20 2017/ 28 mg Mar 20/ 25 mg Apr 20/ 23 mg May 21/ 22mg June 21/ 21mg July 15/ 20mg Aug 5/ 19mg Aug22/18mg Oct 21/ 17 mg Nov 27/ 16 mg Dec 26/ 15mg Jan 27 2018/ 14mg Mar 1/ 13mg Mar 31/ 12 mg Apr 28/ 11mg May 27/ 10 mg July 7/ 9 mg Aug 4/ 8.1 mg Aug 31/ 7.2 mg Sept 29/ 6.3 mg Oct 28/ 5.6 mg Nov 26/ 5 mg Dec 25/ 4.5 mg 01/03/2020 .65 mg 03/11/20 - 0.36 mg- omg omw to being AD free! I also take 30mg Temazepam for sleep every night, Pulmicort 180mcg inhaler 2x/day for cough variant asthma, albuterol inhaler as needed, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, omega 3 fish oil, 400mg magnesium malate, potassium iodide, CBD oil 25 - 30mgs/day HOPE = Hold On, Pain Ends Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted September 6, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 6, 2017 I've just noticed this in your signature: HOPE = Hold On, Pain Ends Absolutely brilliant. There is no LIKE button on SA unfortunately * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Kitson Posted September 6, 2017 Author Share Posted September 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, ChessieCat said: I've just noticed this in your signature: HOPE = Hold On, Pain Ends Absolutely brilliant. There is no LIKE button on SA unfortunately A LIKE button would be awesome. I'll settle for a heart smiley. Apr 09 2013 started taking 30mg Remeron Oct 10 2013 began tapering 27 mg Nov 07/ 24 mg Nov 27/ 22 mg Dec 20/ 20mg ***Stopped taper and reinstated back up to 30mg shortly afterwards due to the symptoms that I was taking Remeron for came back. The Exact Same symptoms. I wasn't willing to live through that again. 2nd attempt at tapering. Feb 20 2017/ 28 mg Mar 20/ 25 mg Apr 20/ 23 mg May 21/ 22mg June 21/ 21mg July 15/ 20mg Aug 5/ 19mg Aug22/18mg Oct 21/ 17 mg Nov 27/ 16 mg Dec 26/ 15mg Jan 27 2018/ 14mg Mar 1/ 13mg Mar 31/ 12 mg Apr 28/ 11mg May 27/ 10 mg July 7/ 9 mg Aug 4/ 8.1 mg Aug 31/ 7.2 mg Sept 29/ 6.3 mg Oct 28/ 5.6 mg Nov 26/ 5 mg Dec 25/ 4.5 mg 01/03/2020 .65 mg 03/11/20 - 0.36 mg- omg omw to being AD free! I also take 30mg Temazepam for sleep every night, Pulmicort 180mcg inhaler 2x/day for cough variant asthma, albuterol inhaler as needed, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, omega 3 fish oil, 400mg magnesium malate, potassium iodide, CBD oil 25 - 30mgs/day HOPE = Hold On, Pain Ends Link to comment
Kitson Posted September 7, 2017 Author Share Posted September 7, 2017 So I have to see my nurse practitioner every six months. She's the one who prescribes me my meds. Today was my six month appointment. It was kind of a bizarre visit this time but it went well, mostly. When I saw her last time back in March, I had just begun my taper and I told her so. And she was supportive. Today, I told her I was down to 18mgs. She asked me what my goal was in tapering the med. I really didn't understand the question. Umm, to get off of the meds? And she asked me "How do you get from 30mgs, to 18mgs? Don't you just cut the pill in half?" I told her I cut the pill with a razor and weighed it on an electronic scale. She looked at me like this . She said that must be hard to cut them like that. I said that it can be. I didn't dare mention how when my dose gets too small to cut that I'm going to turn the pills into a liquid. LOL I felt like we were talking at each other from completely different places for a bit there. If you know what I mean. And then, she wanted to give me a prescription for 15mgs. of Remeron I said but I'm taking 18mgs. She didn't see the problem. I told her that was too big of a drop. That when I dropped from 19 to 18mgs, I had W/D's and that I'm doing this very slowly. I asked her can I just get the 30mg pills for now and she was okay with that. There was a little more weirdness, but that's most of it. I did not go into any details about this website and the other research I've done. She gets annoyed by my other doctors 'Dr. Google' and 'Dr. Internet'. She's going out of state tomorrow and gave me extra refills which she normally doesn't do, which is great. Because that office sometimes is hit and miss when it comes to getting refills and I have to stay on top of them to get my meds timely. Don't get me wrong, she is a great NP. I've been with her for a few years now. She spends upwards of an hour with me which is very rare anymore. And she does listen to me and respect my choices for the most part. Today was just an odd visit and I had to share it with you all. Apr 09 2013 started taking 30mg Remeron Oct 10 2013 began tapering 27 mg Nov 07/ 24 mg Nov 27/ 22 mg Dec 20/ 20mg ***Stopped taper and reinstated back up to 30mg shortly afterwards due to the symptoms that I was taking Remeron for came back. The Exact Same symptoms. I wasn't willing to live through that again. 2nd attempt at tapering. Feb 20 2017/ 28 mg Mar 20/ 25 mg Apr 20/ 23 mg May 21/ 22mg June 21/ 21mg July 15/ 20mg Aug 5/ 19mg Aug22/18mg Oct 21/ 17 mg Nov 27/ 16 mg Dec 26/ 15mg Jan 27 2018/ 14mg Mar 1/ 13mg Mar 31/ 12 mg Apr 28/ 11mg May 27/ 10 mg July 7/ 9 mg Aug 4/ 8.1 mg Aug 31/ 7.2 mg Sept 29/ 6.3 mg Oct 28/ 5.6 mg Nov 26/ 5 mg Dec 25/ 4.5 mg 01/03/2020 .65 mg 03/11/20 - 0.36 mg- omg omw to being AD free! I also take 30mg Temazepam for sleep every night, Pulmicort 180mcg inhaler 2x/day for cough variant asthma, albuterol inhaler as needed, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, omega 3 fish oil, 400mg magnesium malate, potassium iodide, CBD oil 25 - 30mgs/day HOPE = Hold On, Pain Ends Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted September 7, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 7, 2017 Maybe she was more surprised that you were doing well. Hopefully curiosity will get the better of her and as you continue to do okay she will want to know more details. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Kitson Posted September 7, 2017 Author Share Posted September 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, ChessieCat said: Maybe she was more surprised that you were doing well. Hopefully curiosity will get the better of her and as you continue to do okay she will want to know more details. I hope so. I would love to share with her what psych drugs are really like and how hard it is to taper off of them. And how it takes so. much. longer. to taper off of them than she realizes. Apr 09 2013 started taking 30mg Remeron Oct 10 2013 began tapering 27 mg Nov 07/ 24 mg Nov 27/ 22 mg Dec 20/ 20mg ***Stopped taper and reinstated back up to 30mg shortly afterwards due to the symptoms that I was taking Remeron for came back. The Exact Same symptoms. I wasn't willing to live through that again. 2nd attempt at tapering. Feb 20 2017/ 28 mg Mar 20/ 25 mg Apr 20/ 23 mg May 21/ 22mg June 21/ 21mg July 15/ 20mg Aug 5/ 19mg Aug22/18mg Oct 21/ 17 mg Nov 27/ 16 mg Dec 26/ 15mg Jan 27 2018/ 14mg Mar 1/ 13mg Mar 31/ 12 mg Apr 28/ 11mg May 27/ 10 mg July 7/ 9 mg Aug 4/ 8.1 mg Aug 31/ 7.2 mg Sept 29/ 6.3 mg Oct 28/ 5.6 mg Nov 26/ 5 mg Dec 25/ 4.5 mg 01/03/2020 .65 mg 03/11/20 - 0.36 mg- omg omw to being AD free! I also take 30mg Temazepam for sleep every night, Pulmicort 180mcg inhaler 2x/day for cough variant asthma, albuterol inhaler as needed, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, omega 3 fish oil, 400mg magnesium malate, potassium iodide, CBD oil 25 - 30mgs/day HOPE = Hold On, Pain Ends Link to comment
Kitson Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 Hello all, not too much new to report. I was having some serious hot flashes and thought it was menopause symptoms but they've subsided and I believe they were a W/D symptom. Was also feeling unwell last week and I wasn't sure what that was about, but now I believe that was also W/D. Still holding at 18mgs. Letting my CNS settle down. Apr 09 2013 started taking 30mg Remeron Oct 10 2013 began tapering 27 mg Nov 07/ 24 mg Nov 27/ 22 mg Dec 20/ 20mg ***Stopped taper and reinstated back up to 30mg shortly afterwards due to the symptoms that I was taking Remeron for came back. The Exact Same symptoms. I wasn't willing to live through that again. 2nd attempt at tapering. Feb 20 2017/ 28 mg Mar 20/ 25 mg Apr 20/ 23 mg May 21/ 22mg June 21/ 21mg July 15/ 20mg Aug 5/ 19mg Aug22/18mg Oct 21/ 17 mg Nov 27/ 16 mg Dec 26/ 15mg Jan 27 2018/ 14mg Mar 1/ 13mg Mar 31/ 12 mg Apr 28/ 11mg May 27/ 10 mg July 7/ 9 mg Aug 4/ 8.1 mg Aug 31/ 7.2 mg Sept 29/ 6.3 mg Oct 28/ 5.6 mg Nov 26/ 5 mg Dec 25/ 4.5 mg 01/03/2020 .65 mg 03/11/20 - 0.36 mg- omg omw to being AD free! I also take 30mg Temazepam for sleep every night, Pulmicort 180mcg inhaler 2x/day for cough variant asthma, albuterol inhaler as needed, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, omega 3 fish oil, 400mg magnesium malate, potassium iodide, CBD oil 25 - 30mgs/day HOPE = Hold On, Pain Ends Link to comment
rupa Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Dear kitson How are you doing now? How is your tapering going on? Thanks for stopping by at my thread. Thanks for your kind words. Cold turkeyed risperidone (1m.g)and trihexyphenidyl combination drug out of ignorance,In August 2016 after one month use. Withdrawal symptoms settled at dreamful,disturbing sleep. Thus introduced to olanzapine for sleep.Started using olanzapine out of ignorance. Tapering olanzapine 10 m.g from February 2017. May 2018 :Still suffering dreams,Still tapering olanzapine at 0.625.100ml water+2.5 mg olanzapine. June 2018 22.5ml=0.57mg.July 2018 20ml,August 2018-17.5ml,September 2018-15ml,October 2018 10 ml,December 2018 7 ml, BrassMonkey slide method so far at lower doses.2 nd December cold turkeyed , only to reach minure doses as reinstatement to cutshort endless tapering process.4rth December started 1ml. Almost no symptoms and sleep is better,So started 0.5 ml from 17-12-2018. "0"from31-12-18.Re birth happened from 10- 2020,as rejuvenation took whole2019.Completely recovered now. Link to comment
Kitson Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 11 hours ago, rupa said: Dear kitson How are you doing now? How is your tapering going on? Thanks for stopping by at my thread. Thanks for your kind words. Hello Rupa, I am doing well right now, thank you. I am still on a tapering schedule. I am holding for two more weeks then I will cut down from 18 to 17mg. I followed the advice dalsaan and ChessieCat have given to me because I was tapering a little fast and having withdrawal symptoms and I needed to stop and hold. I am letting my central nervous system stabilize. I hope you are feeling better these days. Take care of yourself. Apr 09 2013 started taking 30mg Remeron Oct 10 2013 began tapering 27 mg Nov 07/ 24 mg Nov 27/ 22 mg Dec 20/ 20mg ***Stopped taper and reinstated back up to 30mg shortly afterwards due to the symptoms that I was taking Remeron for came back. The Exact Same symptoms. I wasn't willing to live through that again. 2nd attempt at tapering. Feb 20 2017/ 28 mg Mar 20/ 25 mg Apr 20/ 23 mg May 21/ 22mg June 21/ 21mg July 15/ 20mg Aug 5/ 19mg Aug22/18mg Oct 21/ 17 mg Nov 27/ 16 mg Dec 26/ 15mg Jan 27 2018/ 14mg Mar 1/ 13mg Mar 31/ 12 mg Apr 28/ 11mg May 27/ 10 mg July 7/ 9 mg Aug 4/ 8.1 mg Aug 31/ 7.2 mg Sept 29/ 6.3 mg Oct 28/ 5.6 mg Nov 26/ 5 mg Dec 25/ 4.5 mg 01/03/2020 .65 mg 03/11/20 - 0.36 mg- omg omw to being AD free! I also take 30mg Temazepam for sleep every night, Pulmicort 180mcg inhaler 2x/day for cough variant asthma, albuterol inhaler as needed, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, omega 3 fish oil, 400mg magnesium malate, potassium iodide, CBD oil 25 - 30mgs/day HOPE = Hold On, Pain Ends Link to comment
Kitson Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 My back yard is burning... Apr 09 2013 started taking 30mg Remeron Oct 10 2013 began tapering 27 mg Nov 07/ 24 mg Nov 27/ 22 mg Dec 20/ 20mg ***Stopped taper and reinstated back up to 30mg shortly afterwards due to the symptoms that I was taking Remeron for came back. The Exact Same symptoms. I wasn't willing to live through that again. 2nd attempt at tapering. Feb 20 2017/ 28 mg Mar 20/ 25 mg Apr 20/ 23 mg May 21/ 22mg June 21/ 21mg July 15/ 20mg Aug 5/ 19mg Aug22/18mg Oct 21/ 17 mg Nov 27/ 16 mg Dec 26/ 15mg Jan 27 2018/ 14mg Mar 1/ 13mg Mar 31/ 12 mg Apr 28/ 11mg May 27/ 10 mg July 7/ 9 mg Aug 4/ 8.1 mg Aug 31/ 7.2 mg Sept 29/ 6.3 mg Oct 28/ 5.6 mg Nov 26/ 5 mg Dec 25/ 4.5 mg 01/03/2020 .65 mg 03/11/20 - 0.36 mg- omg omw to being AD free! I also take 30mg Temazepam for sleep every night, Pulmicort 180mcg inhaler 2x/day for cough variant asthma, albuterol inhaler as needed, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, omega 3 fish oil, 400mg magnesium malate, potassium iodide, CBD oil 25 - 30mgs/day HOPE = Hold On, Pain Ends Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus baroquep Posted October 9, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 9, 2017 How are you feeling today Kitson? Current Prescription Drugs for Hypothyroidism: Synthroid 100mcg / Cytomel 5mcg (15 years Pristiq/Effexor)Tapering Schedule September 15, 2016 - switched from Pristiq 50mg to Effexor XR 75mg; November 10, 2016 - reduced to 67.5 Effexor XR December 9, 2016 - reduced 60.75 January 5, 2017 - reduced 54.67 January 30, 2017 - reduced to 49.0 February 20, 2017 - reduced to 44.0 May 20, 2017 - reduced to 40.25 (holding for additional month due to late onset of withdrawal symptoms after this taper) July 17, 2017 - reduced to 38.24 August 15, 2017 - reduced to 37.5 (50% of my original dose) October 15, 2017 - reduced to 35.6 November 12, 2017 - reduced to 33.8 December 15, 2017 - up-dose to 35.6 December 28, 2017 - up-dose to 37.5 Link to comment
Kitson Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 27 minutes ago, baroquep said: How are you feeling today Kitson? Tapering-wise, I feel good. I live in California, just about 8 miles or so from one of those terrible fires that is all over the news right now. I have friends who had to evacuate. It's so sad. I've packed bags in case the wind blows the wrong way and the fire turns. Water tanker airplanes have been flying overhead all day. I can see and smell the smoke from here. I've been glued to facebook to see where the fire is going. I probably won't sleep well tonight. Apr 09 2013 started taking 30mg Remeron Oct 10 2013 began tapering 27 mg Nov 07/ 24 mg Nov 27/ 22 mg Dec 20/ 20mg ***Stopped taper and reinstated back up to 30mg shortly afterwards due to the symptoms that I was taking Remeron for came back. The Exact Same symptoms. I wasn't willing to live through that again. 2nd attempt at tapering. Feb 20 2017/ 28 mg Mar 20/ 25 mg Apr 20/ 23 mg May 21/ 22mg June 21/ 21mg July 15/ 20mg Aug 5/ 19mg Aug22/18mg Oct 21/ 17 mg Nov 27/ 16 mg Dec 26/ 15mg Jan 27 2018/ 14mg Mar 1/ 13mg Mar 31/ 12 mg Apr 28/ 11mg May 27/ 10 mg July 7/ 9 mg Aug 4/ 8.1 mg Aug 31/ 7.2 mg Sept 29/ 6.3 mg Oct 28/ 5.6 mg Nov 26/ 5 mg Dec 25/ 4.5 mg 01/03/2020 .65 mg 03/11/20 - 0.36 mg- omg omw to being AD free! I also take 30mg Temazepam for sleep every night, Pulmicort 180mcg inhaler 2x/day for cough variant asthma, albuterol inhaler as needed, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, omega 3 fish oil, 400mg magnesium malate, potassium iodide, CBD oil 25 - 30mgs/day HOPE = Hold On, Pain Ends Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus baroquep Posted October 9, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 9, 2017 Good to hear that you are okay taper-wise. I'm in Canada and haven't heard about the fires in California yet. We've dealt with some of the worst wildfires imaginable not too long ago in Calgary and the devastation was horrendous. British Columbia just experienced the worst wildfire ever recorded in their history. Hopefully they will be able to get things under control in California before too much damage is done and that people are able to stay safe. Current Prescription Drugs for Hypothyroidism: Synthroid 100mcg / Cytomel 5mcg (15 years Pristiq/Effexor)Tapering Schedule September 15, 2016 - switched from Pristiq 50mg to Effexor XR 75mg; November 10, 2016 - reduced to 67.5 Effexor XR December 9, 2016 - reduced 60.75 January 5, 2017 - reduced 54.67 January 30, 2017 - reduced to 49.0 February 20, 2017 - reduced to 44.0 May 20, 2017 - reduced to 40.25 (holding for additional month due to late onset of withdrawal symptoms after this taper) July 17, 2017 - reduced to 38.24 August 15, 2017 - reduced to 37.5 (50% of my original dose) October 15, 2017 - reduced to 35.6 November 12, 2017 - reduced to 33.8 December 15, 2017 - up-dose to 35.6 December 28, 2017 - up-dose to 37.5 Link to comment
Kitson Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, baroquep said: Good to hear that you are okay taper-wise. I'm in Canada and haven't heard about the fires in California yet. We've dealt with some of the worst wildfires imaginable not too long ago in Calgary and the devastation was horrendous. British Columbia just experienced the worst wildfire ever recorded in their history. Hopefully they will be able to get things under control in California before too much damage is done and that people are able to stay safe. Thank you. Yeah, the devastation is pretty bad. Apr 09 2013 started taking 30mg Remeron Oct 10 2013 began tapering 27 mg Nov 07/ 24 mg Nov 27/ 22 mg Dec 20/ 20mg ***Stopped taper and reinstated back up to 30mg shortly afterwards due to the symptoms that I was taking Remeron for came back. The Exact Same symptoms. I wasn't willing to live through that again. 2nd attempt at tapering. Feb 20 2017/ 28 mg Mar 20/ 25 mg Apr 20/ 23 mg May 21/ 22mg June 21/ 21mg July 15/ 20mg Aug 5/ 19mg Aug22/18mg Oct 21/ 17 mg Nov 27/ 16 mg Dec 26/ 15mg Jan 27 2018/ 14mg Mar 1/ 13mg Mar 31/ 12 mg Apr 28/ 11mg May 27/ 10 mg July 7/ 9 mg Aug 4/ 8.1 mg Aug 31/ 7.2 mg Sept 29/ 6.3 mg Oct 28/ 5.6 mg Nov 26/ 5 mg Dec 25/ 4.5 mg 01/03/2020 .65 mg 03/11/20 - 0.36 mg- omg omw to being AD free! I also take 30mg Temazepam for sleep every night, Pulmicort 180mcg inhaler 2x/day for cough variant asthma, albuterol inhaler as needed, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, omega 3 fish oil, 400mg magnesium malate, potassium iodide, CBD oil 25 - 30mgs/day HOPE = Hold On, Pain Ends Link to comment
Kitson Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share Posted October 22, 2017 So the fires are out, thank god. We are safe. We've had people lost their homes to the fire. But we have an amazing community, so much love and support happening. Last night I started tapering again, I'm down to 17 mgs. Anybody get tachycardia? My sleep has been rubbish the last three nights even with temazepam for sleep. I finally figured out it was tachycardia again. I did the valsalva maneuver a few times at 5:30 this morning and I was able to get a couple of hours of sleep right after that. I am 99% sure it is menopause causing it. Apr 09 2013 started taking 30mg Remeron Oct 10 2013 began tapering 27 mg Nov 07/ 24 mg Nov 27/ 22 mg Dec 20/ 20mg ***Stopped taper and reinstated back up to 30mg shortly afterwards due to the symptoms that I was taking Remeron for came back. The Exact Same symptoms. I wasn't willing to live through that again. 2nd attempt at tapering. Feb 20 2017/ 28 mg Mar 20/ 25 mg Apr 20/ 23 mg May 21/ 22mg June 21/ 21mg July 15/ 20mg Aug 5/ 19mg Aug22/18mg Oct 21/ 17 mg Nov 27/ 16 mg Dec 26/ 15mg Jan 27 2018/ 14mg Mar 1/ 13mg Mar 31/ 12 mg Apr 28/ 11mg May 27/ 10 mg July 7/ 9 mg Aug 4/ 8.1 mg Aug 31/ 7.2 mg Sept 29/ 6.3 mg Oct 28/ 5.6 mg Nov 26/ 5 mg Dec 25/ 4.5 mg 01/03/2020 .65 mg 03/11/20 - 0.36 mg- omg omw to being AD free! I also take 30mg Temazepam for sleep every night, Pulmicort 180mcg inhaler 2x/day for cough variant asthma, albuterol inhaler as needed, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, omega 3 fish oil, 400mg magnesium malate, potassium iodide, CBD oil 25 - 30mgs/day HOPE = Hold On, Pain Ends Link to comment
Starboy17 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Hi Kitson, Yes i still get palpitations every now again particularly in the first few days after a taper, then it can happen spontaneously out of nowhere. I sometimes get a little anxious over it but then remind myself this is just part and parcel of withdrawal. Good to know your safe and continuing your taper. Peace Finasteride 1mg daily 2005 - April (approx) 2016 did have break from them. Dex amphetamine 30mg Daily taken irregularly March 2012 - March 2015 Lexapro April 2016 only took 1 tablet unsure what mg ended up in emergency with thoughts of self harm discharged from hospital was given 20mg Valium and 30mg mirtazapine 30mg April 2016 - current been tapering from 30mg, 15mg May 2016, 7.5mg July 2016,Aug 2016 3.75mg Cold turkey Sept 2016 reinstated after 12dayslater 3.75mg Feb 2017 3.4mg March 2017 3.2mg April 2017 3mg June 25, 2017 2.8mg August 14th 2017, 2.7mg, Sept 18, 2017 2.6mg Oct 26 up-dose 2.65mg due to 5 weeks of severe withdrawal 2.6mg 23rd Nov 2017 30th 2.5mg Nov 2017 2.4mg 19th Dec 2017 then forced 2.45mg up-dose 2.45mg due to severe withdrawals 2nd Jan 2018 up-dose 2.5mg 4th Jan 2018 withdrawals were too severe up-dose 2.55mg 23 Jan 2018 continued severe withdrawals near 3 weeks, 14th March 2018 2.5mg, 24th June 2018 2.45mg, 2.4mg 25th July 2018, 2.35mg 7th August 2018, 2.3mg 22nd October 2018, 2.25mg, 2.2mg 6th Dec 2018, 2.1mg 12 January 2019, 2mg 23rd Jan 2019, 1.95mg 12 March 2019, 1.9mg 12th March 2019, 1.85mg 22 June 2019, 1.8mg 19th July 2019, 1.75mg 16 Sep 2019, 1.7mg 4 October 2019, 1.75mg 5 October - severe withdrawals, need to complete essays. 1.7mg 11th November 2019, 1.65mg 2019 Had horrific nightmare up-dose to 1.7mg on 18th December 2019, 24th December 2019 1.65mg, 17th January 2020 1.6mg-long hold due to ongoing severe withdrawals, low blood pressure, what appears to be chronic fatigue, depression, anxiety. 15th May 2020 1.58mg, 3rd August 2020 1.56mg, 2nd September 2020 1.54mg, 28th September 2020 1.52mg experienced nightmare, along with severe withdrawals, air hunger & high anxiety, due to exams will temporarily up-dose on 30th September 2020 1.54mg Link to comment
Kitson Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 Hello all, I'm now down to 17 mg as of Oct 21st. I've been working hard at work and a few weeks ago I finally hit a wall. Huge fires nearby and my town was filled with thick smoke. I have asthma and the smoke made me sick, I was training a new person at work, and doing the work of two people all summer. Ended up having to take a few days off of work to recover. I'm feeling better now but I didn't realize how run down I was - I was really concerned there for a minute. Right around that time I made a cut to 17 mg. I got heart palpitations one night and doing the valsalva maneuver several times did not work like it did before and I only got about 3 hours of sleep that night. I did some research on here and read on someone's post somewhere that caffeine exacerbates heart palpitations. I also googled and found a journal article that there is an association between mirtazapine and elongated QT intervals in the heart which can cause heart palpitations. I've since cut out all caffeine and I've cut way back on sugar. I can really feel the difference in my body in a good way. I do miss my morning cup of coffee but found that decaffeinated chai tea sweetened with stevia is a very nice substitute. I already take my activating meds and supplements in the morning. I've noticed a little improvement in the insomnia as well. I slipped last night and had a brownie right before bed (couldn't help myself LOL) Didn't affect my sleep last night but I did notice I wasn't falling asleep watching TV like I have been doing lately so I'm not going to do that anymore, no more snacking on brownies before bed. I'm not going to taper again until Nov. 26 - that's past Thanksgiving, I don't want to chance any W/D symptoms during or on Thanksgiving also I'm going to wait until after the first of the new year before I taper again to get past all the holidays. I am anticipating being down to 15 mg in January - down to half the dose I started out on! Apr 09 2013 started taking 30mg Remeron Oct 10 2013 began tapering 27 mg Nov 07/ 24 mg Nov 27/ 22 mg Dec 20/ 20mg ***Stopped taper and reinstated back up to 30mg shortly afterwards due to the symptoms that I was taking Remeron for came back. The Exact Same symptoms. I wasn't willing to live through that again. 2nd attempt at tapering. Feb 20 2017/ 28 mg Mar 20/ 25 mg Apr 20/ 23 mg May 21/ 22mg June 21/ 21mg July 15/ 20mg Aug 5/ 19mg Aug22/18mg Oct 21/ 17 mg Nov 27/ 16 mg Dec 26/ 15mg Jan 27 2018/ 14mg Mar 1/ 13mg Mar 31/ 12 mg Apr 28/ 11mg May 27/ 10 mg July 7/ 9 mg Aug 4/ 8.1 mg Aug 31/ 7.2 mg Sept 29/ 6.3 mg Oct 28/ 5.6 mg Nov 26/ 5 mg Dec 25/ 4.5 mg 01/03/2020 .65 mg 03/11/20 - 0.36 mg- omg omw to being AD free! I also take 30mg Temazepam for sleep every night, Pulmicort 180mcg inhaler 2x/day for cough variant asthma, albuterol inhaler as needed, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, omega 3 fish oil, 400mg magnesium malate, potassium iodide, CBD oil 25 - 30mgs/day HOPE = Hold On, Pain Ends Link to comment
Kitson Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Down to 16 mgs starting today. Here goes nothing. Apr 09 2013 started taking 30mg Remeron Oct 10 2013 began tapering 27 mg Nov 07/ 24 mg Nov 27/ 22 mg Dec 20/ 20mg ***Stopped taper and reinstated back up to 30mg shortly afterwards due to the symptoms that I was taking Remeron for came back. The Exact Same symptoms. I wasn't willing to live through that again. 2nd attempt at tapering. Feb 20 2017/ 28 mg Mar 20/ 25 mg Apr 20/ 23 mg May 21/ 22mg June 21/ 21mg July 15/ 20mg Aug 5/ 19mg Aug22/18mg Oct 21/ 17 mg Nov 27/ 16 mg Dec 26/ 15mg Jan 27 2018/ 14mg Mar 1/ 13mg Mar 31/ 12 mg Apr 28/ 11mg May 27/ 10 mg July 7/ 9 mg Aug 4/ 8.1 mg Aug 31/ 7.2 mg Sept 29/ 6.3 mg Oct 28/ 5.6 mg Nov 26/ 5 mg Dec 25/ 4.5 mg 01/03/2020 .65 mg 03/11/20 - 0.36 mg- omg omw to being AD free! I also take 30mg Temazepam for sleep every night, Pulmicort 180mcg inhaler 2x/day for cough variant asthma, albuterol inhaler as needed, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, omega 3 fish oil, 400mg magnesium malate, potassium iodide, CBD oil 25 - 30mgs/day HOPE = Hold On, Pain Ends Link to comment
Kitson Posted December 26, 2017 Author Share Posted December 26, 2017 Today, officially I will be at half of my original dose - 15 mgs. Woohoo! Thankfully, I have not had any W/D's this past month. I hope everyone who celebrates had a Merry Christmas. Apr 09 2013 started taking 30mg Remeron Oct 10 2013 began tapering 27 mg Nov 07/ 24 mg Nov 27/ 22 mg Dec 20/ 20mg ***Stopped taper and reinstated back up to 30mg shortly afterwards due to the symptoms that I was taking Remeron for came back. The Exact Same symptoms. I wasn't willing to live through that again. 2nd attempt at tapering. Feb 20 2017/ 28 mg Mar 20/ 25 mg Apr 20/ 23 mg May 21/ 22mg June 21/ 21mg July 15/ 20mg Aug 5/ 19mg Aug22/18mg Oct 21/ 17 mg Nov 27/ 16 mg Dec 26/ 15mg Jan 27 2018/ 14mg Mar 1/ 13mg Mar 31/ 12 mg Apr 28/ 11mg May 27/ 10 mg July 7/ 9 mg Aug 4/ 8.1 mg Aug 31/ 7.2 mg Sept 29/ 6.3 mg Oct 28/ 5.6 mg Nov 26/ 5 mg Dec 25/ 4.5 mg 01/03/2020 .65 mg 03/11/20 - 0.36 mg- omg omw to being AD free! I also take 30mg Temazepam for sleep every night, Pulmicort 180mcg inhaler 2x/day for cough variant asthma, albuterol inhaler as needed, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, omega 3 fish oil, 400mg magnesium malate, potassium iodide, CBD oil 25 - 30mgs/day HOPE = Hold On, Pain Ends Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted December 27, 2017 Administrator Share Posted December 27, 2017 Hurray! Thanks for checking in, Kitson. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Santino Posted December 27, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 27, 2017 Good News Kitson.... Have a Happy New Year my friend... 2015 - 2016 Xanax only rescue doses of 0.125 mg 1-2 times per month March 2016 0.125Mg * 2 Xanax for 10 days. 20 March 2016 0.25 Mg * 2 Xanax for one week. 1 April 2016 Tranxene 5 mg and Fevarin but bad reaction for 5 days.4 April 2016 25 Mg Amitryptiline + 6 MG bromazepam at night Started tapering Bromazepam 6 days later reached up to 3 MG in 10 days and withdrawal. Pdoc asked to go 6 MG again. 10 of May started Remeron 15 MG and started tapering Bromazepam again. SINCE 09/06/2016 BENZO FREE - Started Tapering Remeron 04/07/2016 04/Jul/16 12.8 Mg, 11/Aug/16 12 Mg, 20/Aug/16 11Mg, 3/Sept/16 10Mg, 11/Sept/16 9 Mg, 30/Sept/16 8.1 Mg, 14/Oct/16 7.25 Mg, 17/Nov/16 6.7, 23/Nov/16 6.5, 2/Dec/16 6.25, 9/Dec/16 6Mg, 25/Dec/16 5.7Mg, 4/Jan/17 5.4Mg, 20/Jan/17 5.2Mg, 07/Feb/17 5 Mg, 15/Feb/17 4.8Mg, 27/Feb/17 4.5Mg, 15/Mar/17 4.2Mg, 23/Mar/17 4Mg, 1/Apr/17 3.7Mg, 14/Apr/17 3.4Mg, 27/Apr/17 3.1Mg, 06/May/17 2.8Mg, 22/May/17 2.6Mg, 31/May/17 2.3Mg 09/Jun/17 2Mg, 20/Jun/17 1.7Mg, 29/Jun/17 1.4Mg, 11/Jul/17 1.2Mg, 20/Jul/17 1Mg, 31/Jul/17 0.8Mg, 11/Aug/17 0.6Mg, 23/Aug/17 0.5Mg, 05/Sept/17 0.4Mg, 13/Sept/17 0.3Mg. 22/Sept/17 0.2Mg, 03/Oct/17 0.15Mg, 10/Oct/17 0.1Mg, 23/Oct/17 0.05Mg, 22/Nov/17 0.025Mg, 06/DECEMBER/2017 MIRT FREEE. Link to comment
samanthaelizabeth Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 On 8/26/2017 at 7:28 PM, dalsaan said: HI Kitson, I'm an old timer remeron survivor. Not here much any more. I'm a bit worried you are going too fast. 17 days between drops isn't that much and if you keep going at that pace it might catch up with you. I understand the desperate need to get off but the important thing is to come off well, not quickly. Part of the reason why I am concerned is because I struggled a lot more the lower I got down. I would recommend that you do a bit of a hold soon and don't drop for two months or more. Don't think of this as a delay, think of it as an investment. Really cementing stability will allow you to keep moving forward with you taper. I wish you all the best D Hi there! I have been on Remeron for 6.5 years and want to come off of it as it's not good for my cholesterol or my liver. I have been on it and tapered off succesfully with no problem. But those times I was only on it for 1-2 years, No I am scared of what I am in for after being on it for this long. Would you mind helping me through this when I'm ready? I would greatly appreciate it! Ativan Mid April 1999-to end of May 1999 ( COLD TURKEY and flushed them down the toilet) I went through hell for 3 months-I had no idea what was happening to me there was no information on the internet about this drug) Zoloft 200mg 1999 to 2017 Wellbutrin 2015 6 months Started having exterme anxiety-quit taking switched back to Zoloft ( I have quit about 6 jobs from this time0 Klonopin .5-1.0 of and on for two months (tapered off in Dec-Jan) 15 mg Remeron 2012-presnt **Started tapering down Zoloft 12/?/17 12/09/17 down to 50mg; 12/12/17-12/14-17 Zoloft 100mg; 12/16/201712/19 -Zoloft 150mg; 12/20/17-01/06/18 Zoloft 200mg; 01/07/18-01//18/18 Zoloft 180mg 01/18/18-present Zoloft 200mg February 2018-Copaxone 40mg (3 times a week shots) (for Multiple Sclerosis)2/17/18 begin transition to liquid 200mg magnesium, fish oil Link to comment
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