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question:how does one get out of the mental health system for good?

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LightEmergesFromDarkness

so here is something that i have been thinking of recently. how does one go about getting out of the mental health system for good once they have completed all tapers and are completely off all psych meds they would have no need to be in the mental health system anymore. and when i say how, i mean in terms of personal and physical safety, so that lets say when one attempts to get out of said system, that they will not be threatened by authorities in their local communities, their former mental health outpatient clinic where they may have gone for previous treatment, etc. or not thrown back into a psych ward because they are merely trying to be well without forced drugging. i was told many yrs back that in my state, it is state law that a patient's *case* will be automatically closed out by the state after 6 mos of nonactivity. is there a safe way i can use this bit of info to my advantage later on when im ready to leave the system? any thoughts or knowledge how one might go through this process? anyone know of any valid websites where one can go to to research mental health laws for the USA by state if need be? 

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Meimeiquest

Do you have some kind of legal injunction applied to you?

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LightEmergesFromDarkness

No. just asking for information to have as general knowledge.

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Meimeiquest

Just call and cancel your appointment?

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Barbarannamated

Good question.

 

Are you referring to having your personal health records *disappear* as if you were never a patient..?

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Aria

I basically disappeared from the mental health system when I stopped going, did not need any more drugs (tapered off them) and when I saw any new non psych physician I handed my medical records to them. The medical records had been deleted of all references to any psychiatric treatment, psychiatric diagnoses and/or psychiatric drugs. I wanted to have the new doctor see me as "me"...not some label and so far I've been OK doing this. Request copies of your previous records from your family or specialist doctors and see what he/she has in it then if you don't care for their notes delete or change them. Hand deliver your records to the new doc, when filling out new patient form say what you only want known and don't look back doing it.

 

I was never involuntarily committed or had forced treatment. I know my diagnoses are out there but for now I feel safe having a few doctors who only know me as a lady who never took psych drugs or had a psych diagnosis. I was afraid my old pdoc would come after me but he didn't. To him I was simply another $ 100 med check (if you read my Intro you'll see why he didn't miss me).

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Barbarannamated

I have great concern of electronic medical records following me. They have to be maintained by some agency for legal purposes -- firearm purchases, for example. Not that I have any interest or plans to purchase a gun, but someone somewhere must keep hospital records forever.

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PharmaNAMI

anyone know of any valid websites where one can go to to research mental health laws for the USA by state if need be? 

 

http://psychrights.org/

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LightEmergesFromDarkness

thank you everyone for all the feedback to my post. i have been *incognito* if you will lol from the system for a few mos now. so far so good.  :)

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westcoast

To answer the OP--you can't. Anyone following the Murphy bill?

 

The house sponsor is a clinical psychologist now in government. In 2014 he lied thus:

"Mr. Murphy said in an interview. “We know that when people get care, they get better"

 

What does this mean?

"Amends the Protection and Advocacy for Individuals with Mental Illness Act to reduce corresponding funding for protection and advocacy systems for mentally ill individuals."

 

I know what this means: a lot of people are going to be robbed blind by their "caregivers."

"Requires the caregiver of an individual with a serious mental illness to be treated as the individual's personal representative with respect to protected health information, even though the individual has not consented to disclosure of such information to the caregiver, when the individual's service provider reasonably believes it is necessary for protected health information to be made available to the caregiver in order to protect the individual's health, safety, or welfare or the safety of one or more other individuals."

 

That implies that they can ignore your chosen conservator's status, does it not?

 

The bill

https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/3717

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btdt

http://psychrights.org/

How the Legal System Can Help Create a Recovery Culture in Mental Health Systems

 

Conclusion A final word about the importance of the potential role of the courts and the forced psychiatry issue. While it is true that many, even maybe most, people in the system are not under court orders at any given time, it is my view that the forced psychiatry system is what starts a tremendous number of people on the road to permanent disability (and poverty) and drives the whole public system. Of course, coercion to take the drugs is pervasive outside of court orders too, but again I see the legal coercion as a key element. If people who are now being dragged into forced psychiatry were given, non-coercive, recovery oriented options, they would also become available for the people who are not subject to forced psychiatry. I hope this paper has conveyed the role that strategic litigation can play in transforming mental health systems to a culture of recovery.

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oskcajga

If you ever get a fancy background check, your records will definitely show up.  If you don't do that, it won't happen - most likely.

 

The best thing you could do is just not tell doctors you ever took psych meds. I told a new primary care doctor I took them and she immediately labelled me as mentally ill.  Last time I will ever do that.

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GardeniaBlossom

What do you mean by a "fancy" background check, oskcajga?

 

Great question, LightEmergesFromDarkness. Thanks for posting the question.

 

I wonder if doctors have access to insurance company databases. If they do, then they'd know what we'd been treated for in the past by other docs. Our diagnoses, hospitalizations, medication histories, etc. are recorded by them, and I believe insurance companies do maintain those records indefinitely though I'm no expert.

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oskcajga

What do you mean by a "fancy" background check, oskcajga?

 

Great question, LightEmergesFromDarkness. Thanks for posting the question.

 

I wonder if doctors have access to insurance company databases. If they do, then they'd know what we'd been treated for in the past by other docs. Our diagnoses, hospitalizations, medication histories, etc. are recorded by them, and I believe insurance companies do maintain those records indefinitely though I'm no expert.

 

Any background check conducted by a big organization that is very serious about giving you clearance to highly important things (e.g., getting a job for the FBI or something).

 

It's probably not that tough to get these medical records for any law enforcement agency, court, or government organization.  Think of the patriot act.  They can and will get any information on you no matter how many laws are there to protect you.

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