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Zibius: Stopping antidepressant (cipralex) with the help of homeopathy


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Hi,

 

I just visited an homoeopath to get some help in stopping my antidepressant. She gave me avena sativa and told me to alternate with my cipralex.

 

After 9 days I was having some very bad withdrawal symptoms. Then I remembered that cipralex as a short half-life. So taking it every 48 hours was probably not a good idea.

 

Back to square one. I have to stay at full dose for 2 week to get the symptoms out. 

 

On my next try, I will follow the info I have found on this site but my question is: Any homoeopathic product I could take to help the transition ? And maybe keep using as a replacement for antidepressant.

2016 Back to cipralex 10 mg

2018 March From 10 mg to 5 mg cipralex

2018 april 15, stopped 5 mg cipralex

2018 May 16 Hypersensitive skin as withdrawal

2018 May 19 to 23 took 5 mg cipralex but skin was more painful so stopped cipralex

2018 May 30, skin is feeling better

2018 June 28, very stressful event

2018 July 3, Skin is more painful

2018 July 8, started .5 mg cipralex 

2018 July 12 skin is even worst

Supplements Omega 3, Magnesium

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Hi Zibius, Welcome to surviving antidepressants.  I moved your post to our introductions and updates forum.

This will be your journal and is specific to you, you can update it whenever you like. 

 

I'm afraid your homeopath knows nothing about getting off anti depressants!

It is not like coming off other drugs where they just have to leave your body and that's it,

if only it was that simple!  Taking them every other day is just throwing your nervous system

into turmoil and withdrawal.  

 

Here is our topic on tapering cipralex (escitalopram)

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/406-tips-for-tapering-off-lexapro-escitalopram/

 

Some people may have found help with homeopathic tratments but it isn't something we actively 

recommend. There is a thread on homeopathy, if you would like to read it you might find it helpful.

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1971-ask-shanti-about-homeopathy/?hl=homeopathy

 

Here is a topic on non drug alternatives for emotional problems.

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1112-non-drug-techniques-to-cope-with-emotional-symptoms/

 

It would help us if you could put your medication  history in your signature line, when meds started/stopped/doses

etc so we can see the best way to help you.   Here's how to do that. 

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/893-please-put-your-withdrawal-history-in-your-signature/

**I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge.

 

 

Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem)

1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat

2002  effexor. 

Tapered  March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg  

 July 2017 30mg.  May 15 2018 25mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. 

 

My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

 

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Welcome, I'm happy for you that you foun dthis site sooner than later (like a lot of us).

 

Yes, your gut feeling that skipping doses was a very bad idea is very true.

 

I visited a homeopath and found out the experience useless ;( As MammaP said, they don't know anything about psychotropic meds...

 

I don't think there is something you can take  as a replacement for an AD. We have to develop alternative coping strategies that don't rely on manipulating our CNS with substances of any kind...

 

One of the moderators Rhi wrote something that for me most beautifully describes how the drugs work and how you can heal from the effects they cause. Will copy it here for you:

 

RHI: This is something I posted somewhere else and then saved. I know it's all stuff I've said before, but it bears repeating and further discussion.

A lot of people, including healthcare practitioners; in fact, I guess, most people-- are operating from entirely the wrong paradigm, or way of thinking, about these meds. They're thinking of them like aspirin--as something that has an effect when it's in your system, and then when it gets out of your system the effect goes away.

That's not what happens with medications that alter neurotransmitter function, we are learning.

What happens when you change the chemistry of the brain is, the brain adjusts its chemistry and structure to try to return to homeostasis, or biochemical and functional balance. It tries to restabilize the chemistry. 

For example: SSRI antidepressants work as "serotonin reuptake inhibitors." That is, they cause serotonin to remain in the space between neurons, rather than being taken back up into the cells to be re-used, like it would be in a normal healthy nondrugged brain.

So the brain, which wants to re-establish normal signaling and function, adapts to the higher level of serotonin between neurons (in the "synapse", the space between neurons where signals get passed along). It does this by removing serotonin receptors, so that the signal is reduced and changed to something closer to normal. It also decreases the amount of serotonin it produces overall. 

To do that, genes have to be turned on and off; new proteins have to be made; whole cascades of chemical reactions have to be changed, which means turning on and off OTHER genes; cells are destroyed, new cells are made; in other words, a complex physiologic remodeling takes place. This takes place over time. The brain does not grow and change rapidly. 

This is a vast oversimplification of the amount of adaptation that takes place in the brain when we change its normal chemistry, but that's the principle.

When we stop taking the drug, we have a brain that has designed itself so that it works in the presence of the drug; now it can't work properly without the drug because it's designed itself so that the drug is part of its chemistry and structure. It's like a plant that has grown on a trellis; you can't just yank out the trellis and expect the plant to be okay.

When the drug is removed, the remodeling process has to take place in reverse.

SO--it's not a matter of just getting the drug out of your system and moving on. If it were that simple, none of us would be here. 

It's a matter of, as I describe it, having to grow a new brain. 

I believe this growing-a-new-brain happens throughout the taper process if the taper is slow enough. (If it's too fast, then there's not a lot of time for actually rebalancing things, and basically the brain is just pedaling fast trying to keep us alive.) It also continues to happen, probably for longer than the symptoms actually last, throughout the time of recovery after we are completely off the drug, which is why recovery takes so long. 

With multiple drugs and a history of drug changes and cold turkeys, all of this becomes even more complicated. And if a person is started on these kinds of drugs at an early age before the brain has ever completely established normal mature functioning--well, it can't be good. (All of which is why I recommend an extremely slow taper particularly to anyone with a multiple drug history, a history of many years on meds, a history of past cold turkeys or frequent med changes, and a history of being put on drugs at a young age.)

This isn't intended to scare people, but hopefully to give you some idea of what's happening, and to help you respect and understand the process so you can work with it; ALSO, because you are likely to encounter many, many people who still believe these drugs work kind of like aspirin, or a glass of wine, and all you need to do is stop and get it out of your system. 


Now you can explain to them that no, getting it out of your system is not the issue; the issue is, you need to regrow or at least remodel your brain. This is a long, slow, very poorly understood process, and it needs to be respected

 

good luck on your journey!

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Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2

2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013)

Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 
1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg.
2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg
went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days after
reinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours
28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr  2015 1 mg,  25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64  Xanax     9 month hold

24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26

Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic 

I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. 

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Wow, I knew it was something like that but that is so well explained. Even doctors should be able to understand it :)

 

The only part I still need to confirm is that it is not because of a chemical in-balanced that we become depressant or feel over anxious. Everyday life and special circumstance make us overly anxious and un-balanced. And it's only by trial and error that medicine discovered that if we increase the level of serotonin (for example) we alleviate the symptom.

 

The only good thing that the homoeopath told me is that the problem that caused my anxiety in the beginning, should still be there when you stop the medication. 

 

My doc just switched me to remeron because she could not explain a skin problem that might have been cause by my cipralex. She is just guessing.

 

I think it's time a start planning my exit strategy.I will be keeping a close eye on this website. Thank you both for your good advice...

2016 Back to cipralex 10 mg

2018 March From 10 mg to 5 mg cipralex

2018 april 15, stopped 5 mg cipralex

2018 May 16 Hypersensitive skin as withdrawal

2018 May 19 to 23 took 5 mg cipralex but skin was more painful so stopped cipralex

2018 May 30, skin is feeling better

2018 June 28, very stressful event

2018 July 3, Skin is more painful

2018 July 8, started .5 mg cipralex 

2018 July 12 skin is even worst

Supplements Omega 3, Magnesium

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Hi Zibius. I so very much hope things are going ok for you! Cipralex and Remeron is quite dissimilar. We are here for you, if you need us!

2010: Mirtazapine 30mg followed by Zopiclone 7.5 mg for sleep post surgery due to pain.
2012-> Tapering Mirtazapine and Zopiclone at different rates unsuccessfully.
2013: Hospitalized 10 days due to complete Insomnia. Forced back up to 45mg Mirtazapine, 7.5 mg Zopiclone and also Theralene 1 ml.
2013-03: Lab showed Vitamin D deficient. Found the vitamin d and insomnia connection. Supplementing vitamin d. Sleep improved by 1-2 hours
2013-04: Dropped mirtazapine to 30 due to severe side effects. Quit Theralene. Zopiclone 7.5.
2013-05 - 2013-11: Mirtazapine taper monthly 25 20 15 11 8 4 2.5 mg
2013-12 Holding M at 2.5. Need to taper Zopiclone due to daytime nausea and vomiting. Taper zopiclone 1/4 red every 5 d. Last Z 2013-12-19
2013-12-31 M:2.5. Reinstated Zopiclone 3.75 due to Insomnia
2014-01-06 M:2.5. Taper Z 1.9 ... 2014-01-14 M:2.5. Z 1 mg.
Jumped of Zopiclone 01-20. Jumped mirtazapine 02-16.

Theralene: 10mg 02-09. 8mg 03-09. 5mg 03-15. 4mg 03-24. 3mg 04-08. Jumped 04-21.
Zopiclone free for 251 days. Mirtazapine free for 224 days.

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Well, been on Remeron for 10 days now. 3 days at 30 mg. Sleepyness as gone but I have what I think is Asthenia. It's listed as one of the side effects. I feel like my arms and legs are harder to move. I think it'S just a feeling since I can squeeze things with normal force. 

 

Anybody out there with that feeling...hope it goes away after a few more days on R.

 

Thanks people 

2016 Back to cipralex 10 mg

2018 March From 10 mg to 5 mg cipralex

2018 april 15, stopped 5 mg cipralex

2018 May 16 Hypersensitive skin as withdrawal

2018 May 19 to 23 took 5 mg cipralex but skin was more painful so stopped cipralex

2018 May 30, skin is feeling better

2018 June 28, very stressful event

2018 July 3, Skin is more painful

2018 July 8, started .5 mg cipralex 

2018 July 12 skin is even worst

Supplements Omega 3, Magnesium

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Asthenia might be Remeron related. I have not had that though. It might go away. Some side effects do. Others might come. Get stable and start taper, is my suggestion. Taper wisely!

2010: Mirtazapine 30mg followed by Zopiclone 7.5 mg for sleep post surgery due to pain.
2012-> Tapering Mirtazapine and Zopiclone at different rates unsuccessfully.
2013: Hospitalized 10 days due to complete Insomnia. Forced back up to 45mg Mirtazapine, 7.5 mg Zopiclone and also Theralene 1 ml.
2013-03: Lab showed Vitamin D deficient. Found the vitamin d and insomnia connection. Supplementing vitamin d. Sleep improved by 1-2 hours
2013-04: Dropped mirtazapine to 30 due to severe side effects. Quit Theralene. Zopiclone 7.5.
2013-05 - 2013-11: Mirtazapine taper monthly 25 20 15 11 8 4 2.5 mg
2013-12 Holding M at 2.5. Need to taper Zopiclone due to daytime nausea and vomiting. Taper zopiclone 1/4 red every 5 d. Last Z 2013-12-19
2013-12-31 M:2.5. Reinstated Zopiclone 3.75 due to Insomnia
2014-01-06 M:2.5. Taper Z 1.9 ... 2014-01-14 M:2.5. Z 1 mg.
Jumped of Zopiclone 01-20. Jumped mirtazapine 02-16.

Theralene: 10mg 02-09. 8mg 03-09. 5mg 03-15. 4mg 03-24. 3mg 04-08. Jumped 04-21.
Zopiclone free for 251 days. Mirtazapine free for 224 days.

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Hi there,

 

I'm trying to tapper from 30 mg Remeron and now at 27 mg. It's been real tough, I get nausea, headache, head spinning. And I know to slow down the tappering when that heppen. 

 

But I was wondering if antbody had any luck with supplements like Fish oil or vitamin B13 or whatever else to help in the transition.

 

Thanks

2016 Back to cipralex 10 mg

2018 March From 10 mg to 5 mg cipralex

2018 april 15, stopped 5 mg cipralex

2018 May 16 Hypersensitive skin as withdrawal

2018 May 19 to 23 took 5 mg cipralex but skin was more painful so stopped cipralex

2018 May 30, skin is feeling better

2018 June 28, very stressful event

2018 July 3, Skin is more painful

2018 July 8, started .5 mg cipralex 

2018 July 12 skin is even worst

Supplements Omega 3, Magnesium

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And you might want to try a smaller cut next time, it sounds like 10% was a bit too much. I would try 5%. Some of us have to cut in smaller chunks.

 

Hang in there, if you don't change anything with your meds and you take care of yourself the symptoms will settle down eventually.

 

Your nervous system is still reeling from the CTs off Cymbalta and Cipralex so you're probably going to be extra sensitive to changes in the Remeron for now. Best to keep the tapering really small and really slow for now. 

Started on Prozac and Xanax in 1992 for PTSD after an assault. One drug led to more, the usual story. Got sicker and sicker, but believed I needed the drugs for my "underlying disease". Long story...lost everything. Life savings, home, physical and mental health, relationships, friendships, ability to work, everything. Amitryptiline, Prozac, bupropion, buspirone, flurazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, Paxil, citalopram, lamotrigine, gabapentin...probably more I've forgotten. 

Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010.  Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea.

 

Feb 15 2010:  300 mg Neurontin  200 Lamictal   10 Celexa      0.65 Xanax   and 5 mg Ambien 

Feb 10 2014:   62 Lamictal    1.1 Celexa         0.135 Xanax    1.8 Valium

Feb 10 2015:   50 Lamictal      0.875 Celexa    0.11 Xanax      1.5 Valium

Feb 15 2016:   47.5 Lamictal   0.75 Celexa      0.0875 Xanax    1.42 Valium    

2/12/20             12                       0.045               0.007                   1 

May 2021            7                       0.01                  0.0037                1

Feb 2022            6                      0!!!                     0.00167               0.98                2.5 mg Ambien

Oct 2022       4.5 mg Lamictal    (off Celexa, off Xanax)   0.95 Valium    Ambien, 1/4 to 1/2 of a 5 mg tablet 

 

I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion.

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Thanks for all the great advices. I will look into magnesium and some of the other forum posts.

I have been eyeballing the cuts I have to do to my pills. But I'm probably causing the dosage to fluctuate between 29 and 25 mg (from 30 mg) pills.

 

I never realized that my brain might still me recovering from the cymbalta and cipralex. If I'm more sensitive to dosage changes because of that, that fluctuation must be the cause of all the symptoms I'm getting.

 

I know I can't get remeron in liquid so maybe I could crush them.

 

Again, thanks for your support.

2016 Back to cipralex 10 mg

2018 March From 10 mg to 5 mg cipralex

2018 april 15, stopped 5 mg cipralex

2018 May 16 Hypersensitive skin as withdrawal

2018 May 19 to 23 took 5 mg cipralex but skin was more painful so stopped cipralex

2018 May 30, skin is feeling better

2018 June 28, very stressful event

2018 July 3, Skin is more painful

2018 July 8, started .5 mg cipralex 

2018 July 12 skin is even worst

Supplements Omega 3, Magnesium

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Read the topics "pinned" at the top in the Tapering section, and follow the links there. I think you will find a link to how to make your own liquid solution or use a scale to get precise controlled doses, and a link to how to taper Remeron. Read through those. Lots of good info there.

Started on Prozac and Xanax in 1992 for PTSD after an assault. One drug led to more, the usual story. Got sicker and sicker, but believed I needed the drugs for my "underlying disease". Long story...lost everything. Life savings, home, physical and mental health, relationships, friendships, ability to work, everything. Amitryptiline, Prozac, bupropion, buspirone, flurazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, Paxil, citalopram, lamotrigine, gabapentin...probably more I've forgotten. 

Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010.  Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea.

 

Feb 15 2010:  300 mg Neurontin  200 Lamictal   10 Celexa      0.65 Xanax   and 5 mg Ambien 

Feb 10 2014:   62 Lamictal    1.1 Celexa         0.135 Xanax    1.8 Valium

Feb 10 2015:   50 Lamictal      0.875 Celexa    0.11 Xanax      1.5 Valium

Feb 15 2016:   47.5 Lamictal   0.75 Celexa      0.0875 Xanax    1.42 Valium    

2/12/20             12                       0.045               0.007                   1 

May 2021            7                       0.01                  0.0037                1

Feb 2022            6                      0!!!                     0.00167               0.98                2.5 mg Ambien

Oct 2022       4.5 mg Lamictal    (off Celexa, off Xanax)   0.95 Valium    Ambien, 1/4 to 1/2 of a 5 mg tablet 

 

I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion.

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hi, from the 1 to the 8 of September I switched from 30 mg remeron to 10 mg cipralex. I took half remeron and half cipralex. From the 9 it was only cipralex.

 

First week on cipralex was fine but this last week I started sensitive nerves in my arms, weird cramp like headache and my inside is "vibrating"

 

Could this be withdrawal or a brain tumor ( slightly hypochondriac)

2016 Back to cipralex 10 mg

2018 March From 10 mg to 5 mg cipralex

2018 april 15, stopped 5 mg cipralex

2018 May 16 Hypersensitive skin as withdrawal

2018 May 19 to 23 took 5 mg cipralex but skin was more painful so stopped cipralex

2018 May 30, skin is feeling better

2018 June 28, very stressful event

2018 July 3, Skin is more painful

2018 July 8, started .5 mg cipralex 

2018 July 12 skin is even worst

Supplements Omega 3, Magnesium

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Hi Zibius, I have merged your topic with your introductions thread as it is specific to your taper. 

I am not sure if it will be withdrawal or side effects, there have been many changes and your

nervous system is destabilised. Hopefully Alto will be along and may have a better answer for you.

I wouldn't worry about brain tumours, symptoms can be very distressing but your do fit with withdrawal

or side effects . 

**I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge.

 

 

Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem)

1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat

2002  effexor. 

Tapered  March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg  

 July 2017 30mg.  May 15 2018 25mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. 

 

My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

 

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It sounds like withdrawal symptoms. Cipralex is not an equivalent to Remeron, why did you switch?

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Hi people, 

 

So, I decided to stop Cipralex 10mg that I have been taking for the last 8 years. 

I gradually stop over 2 months and had some minor imbalance that went away. 

But 10 days ago my skin started being painful. It's super sensitive to Touch and feel like sunburn under any cloth. 

 

So the big question is: is it withdrawal? Will it go away and is there anything I can do to help it. 

2016 Back to cipralex 10 mg

2018 March From 10 mg to 5 mg cipralex

2018 april 15, stopped 5 mg cipralex

2018 May 16 Hypersensitive skin as withdrawal

2018 May 19 to 23 took 5 mg cipralex but skin was more painful so stopped cipralex

2018 May 30, skin is feeling better

2018 June 28, very stressful event

2018 July 3, Skin is more painful

2018 July 8, started .5 mg cipralex 

2018 July 12 skin is even worst

Supplements Omega 3, Magnesium

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Yes, you went off it too fast and you have withdrawal symptoms.

 

If I were you, I'd take 1mg Cipralex right away. This might stop the withdrawal. You'd taper off in a couple of months. See

 

On 1/26/2014 at 10:31 AM, mammaP said:

 

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I read alot of post yesterday and having withdrawal symptoms after a few week of going ok seem common.

 

I was prepared for dizziness and weird feeling but my body found something else that's uncomfortable...burning skin.

 

So to reinstate, do I go at half dose at 5 mg or do I calculate 10% for two month which would put me at 8 mg

2016 Back to cipralex 10 mg

2018 March From 10 mg to 5 mg cipralex

2018 april 15, stopped 5 mg cipralex

2018 May 16 Hypersensitive skin as withdrawal

2018 May 19 to 23 took 5 mg cipralex but skin was more painful so stopped cipralex

2018 May 30, skin is feeling better

2018 June 28, very stressful event

2018 July 3, Skin is more painful

2018 July 8, started .5 mg cipralex 

2018 July 12 skin is even worst

Supplements Omega 3, Magnesium

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Wow Cipralex is a very potent drug. I told my self, it'S just 10 mg...

 

I read a lot of post yesterday and having withdrawal symptoms after a few week of going ok seem common.

 

I was prepared for dizziness and weird feeling but my body found something else that's uncomfortable...burning skin.

 

So to reinstate, do I go at half dose at 5 mg or do I calculate 10% for two month which would put me at 8 mg

2016 Back to cipralex 10 mg

2018 March From 10 mg to 5 mg cipralex

2018 april 15, stopped 5 mg cipralex

2018 May 16 Hypersensitive skin as withdrawal

2018 May 19 to 23 took 5 mg cipralex but skin was more painful so stopped cipralex

2018 May 30, skin is feeling better

2018 June 28, very stressful event

2018 July 3, Skin is more painful

2018 July 8, started .5 mg cipralex 

2018 July 12 skin is even worst

Supplements Omega 3, Magnesium

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You can try 0.5mg, that might be enough. People react badly to doses that are too high, don't overdo it. Please let us know how you're doing.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Just wanted to do an update. 4 days back at 5 mg cipralex and still no change for my hypersensitive/burning skin.

 

I also started omega 3 and 5-htp. Is that a good idea ?

2016 Back to cipralex 10 mg

2018 March From 10 mg to 5 mg cipralex

2018 april 15, stopped 5 mg cipralex

2018 May 16 Hypersensitive skin as withdrawal

2018 May 19 to 23 took 5 mg cipralex but skin was more painful so stopped cipralex

2018 May 30, skin is feeling better

2018 June 28, very stressful event

2018 July 3, Skin is more painful

2018 July 8, started .5 mg cipralex 

2018 July 12 skin is even worst

Supplements Omega 3, Magnesium

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Altostrata, I just re-read your comment and you wrote 0.5 mg. I have been splitting the pill in half so taking 5 mg.

 

So that is way to much, right?

 

But my symptom are still there event at 5 mg.

2016 Back to cipralex 10 mg

2018 March From 10 mg to 5 mg cipralex

2018 april 15, stopped 5 mg cipralex

2018 May 16 Hypersensitive skin as withdrawal

2018 May 19 to 23 took 5 mg cipralex but skin was more painful so stopped cipralex

2018 May 30, skin is feeling better

2018 June 28, very stressful event

2018 July 3, Skin is more painful

2018 July 8, started .5 mg cipralex 

2018 July 12 skin is even worst

Supplements Omega 3, Magnesium

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Hi,

 

So it's clear to me that I went off cipralex/lexapro to quickly, (only took 2 month) and i'm dealing with some bad sensitive skin and dry eyes that started almost 2 months after the last dose.

 

So I want to reinstate the cipralex to deal with that problem. I read and was told that I should start with a small dose.

 

So for 10 mg of cipralex, would something like 1 mg or even 0.5 mg considered small ?

 

Just want to confirm before I do something stupid like take 5 mg (half a pill)

 

Thank you for your time and input

2016 Back to cipralex 10 mg

2018 March From 10 mg to 5 mg cipralex

2018 april 15, stopped 5 mg cipralex

2018 May 16 Hypersensitive skin as withdrawal

2018 May 19 to 23 took 5 mg cipralex but skin was more painful so stopped cipralex

2018 May 30, skin is feeling better

2018 June 28, very stressful event

2018 July 3, Skin is more painful

2018 July 8, started .5 mg cipralex 

2018 July 12 skin is even worst

Supplements Omega 3, Magnesium

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Merged with Zibius's Intro topic. Please put questions and updates about your particular situation in this topic.

 

4 hours ago, zibius said:

Altostrata, I just re-read your comment and you wrote 0.5 mg. I have been splitting the pill in half so taking 5 mg.

 

So that is way to much, right?

 

But my symptom are still there event at 5 mg.

 

How long have you been taking 5mg Cipralex? Have your symptoms changed at all? How have they changed?

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I have taken 5 mg for 4 days and symptoms seam worst. My skin was more uncomfortable than the last days.

 

So i was thinking of doing like you said 0.5 mg

2016 Back to cipralex 10 mg

2018 March From 10 mg to 5 mg cipralex

2018 april 15, stopped 5 mg cipralex

2018 May 16 Hypersensitive skin as withdrawal

2018 May 19 to 23 took 5 mg cipralex but skin was more painful so stopped cipralex

2018 May 30, skin is feeling better

2018 June 28, very stressful event

2018 July 3, Skin is more painful

2018 July 8, started .5 mg cipralex 

2018 July 12 skin is even worst

Supplements Omega 3, Magnesium

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1 hour ago, Altostrata said:

Merged with Zibius's Intro topic. Please put questions and updates about your particular situation in this topic.

 

 

How long have you been taking 5mg Cipralex? Have your symptoms changed at all? How have they changed?

I have taken 5 mg for the last 4 days but my symptoms seams worst.

 

My skin hurt more today than the last few days

2016 Back to cipralex 10 mg

2018 March From 10 mg to 5 mg cipralex

2018 april 15, stopped 5 mg cipralex

2018 May 16 Hypersensitive skin as withdrawal

2018 May 19 to 23 took 5 mg cipralex but skin was more painful so stopped cipralex

2018 May 30, skin is feeling better

2018 June 28, very stressful event

2018 July 3, Skin is more painful

2018 July 8, started .5 mg cipralex 

2018 July 12 skin is even worst

Supplements Omega 3, Magnesium

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The Cipralex is ramping up. If I were you, I might try 4mg or even 2.5mg if the effect is still increasing.

 

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2 hours ago, Altostrata said:

The Cipralex is ramping up. If I were you, I might try 4mg or even 2.5mg if the effect is still increasing.

 

 

Ok, so instead of 0.5 mg i should go up to 2.5 mg. But definitely not 5 mg, right ?

 

Again, thanks for your time and sorry to be a pest...

2016 Back to cipralex 10 mg

2018 March From 10 mg to 5 mg cipralex

2018 april 15, stopped 5 mg cipralex

2018 May 16 Hypersensitive skin as withdrawal

2018 May 19 to 23 took 5 mg cipralex but skin was more painful so stopped cipralex

2018 May 30, skin is feeling better

2018 June 28, very stressful event

2018 July 3, Skin is more painful

2018 July 8, started .5 mg cipralex 

2018 July 12 skin is even worst

Supplements Omega 3, Magnesium

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You said you were taking 5mg. If your symptoms are getting worse and it seems too strong, I would reduce the Cipralex dosage to 4mg or even 2.5mg.

 

You'll have to decide if it seems too strong.

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11 hours ago, Altostrata said:

You said you were taking 5mg. If your symptoms are getting worse and it seems too strong, I would reduce the Cipralex dosage to 4mg or even 2.5mg.

 

You'll have to decide if it seems too strong.

 

I will go with 2.5 or even lower based on your previous comments. I really don't want to make things worst by overdoing it.

 

Will let you know how it goes. 

2016 Back to cipralex 10 mg

2018 March From 10 mg to 5 mg cipralex

2018 april 15, stopped 5 mg cipralex

2018 May 16 Hypersensitive skin as withdrawal

2018 May 19 to 23 took 5 mg cipralex but skin was more painful so stopped cipralex

2018 May 30, skin is feeling better

2018 June 28, very stressful event

2018 July 3, Skin is more painful

2018 July 8, started .5 mg cipralex 

2018 July 12 skin is even worst

Supplements Omega 3, Magnesium

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17 hours ago, Altostrata said:

You said you were taking 5mg. If your symptoms are getting worse and it seems too strong, I would reduce the Cipralex dosage to 4mg or even 2.5mg.

 

You'll have to decide if it seems too strong.

Also, I wanted to start a supplement that is supposed to calm emotions. Well it as 5-htp in it. Would that be like starting a new ssri MEd. Which I think would be a very bad idea right now?

2016 Back to cipralex 10 mg

2018 March From 10 mg to 5 mg cipralex

2018 april 15, stopped 5 mg cipralex

2018 May 16 Hypersensitive skin as withdrawal

2018 May 19 to 23 took 5 mg cipralex but skin was more painful so stopped cipralex

2018 May 30, skin is feeling better

2018 June 28, very stressful event

2018 July 3, Skin is more painful

2018 July 8, started .5 mg cipralex 

2018 July 12 skin is even worst

Supplements Omega 3, Magnesium

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This is a delicate operation. Do not confuse things by adding any neuroactive supplements while you are changing dosages.

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Wow withdrawal is tough. I decided to stop 5-htp and since it's been more than 2 months since I stopped my cipralex, i decided to not re-instate.

 

In the last week I had better day in term of skin pain but today is a not so good one. I feel depressed and think it will never get better

 

I started a calendar of events to document my process a bit more.

 

It's only been a 1 1/2 week that the skin sensitivity has started. I feel depress that I might have a lot more weeks to go. I'm hoping to get some of the waves of healing. It would tell me that things are getting repaired.

 

I'm also so tired all the time. 

 

But i'm telling myself to take care of my mind and body, exercise, meditate and do one day at a time. I'm going through the forum to see what I can do to help my brain...

2016 Back to cipralex 10 mg

2018 March From 10 mg to 5 mg cipralex

2018 april 15, stopped 5 mg cipralex

2018 May 16 Hypersensitive skin as withdrawal

2018 May 19 to 23 took 5 mg cipralex but skin was more painful so stopped cipralex

2018 May 30, skin is feeling better

2018 June 28, very stressful event

2018 July 3, Skin is more painful

2018 July 8, started .5 mg cipralex 

2018 July 12 skin is even worst

Supplements Omega 3, Magnesium

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Hi,

 

Like so many of you i'm currently living with some withdrawal symptoms and trying to cope.

 

A read a lot of info on this forum about taking of myself but one question still remain.

 

Somebody said that we have to stay clear of stressful situation and/or peoples while we try to stop our medication.

 

So my question is, can stress and anxiety make our withdrawal symptoms worst ?

2016 Back to cipralex 10 mg

2018 March From 10 mg to 5 mg cipralex

2018 april 15, stopped 5 mg cipralex

2018 May 16 Hypersensitive skin as withdrawal

2018 May 19 to 23 took 5 mg cipralex but skin was more painful so stopped cipralex

2018 May 30, skin is feeling better

2018 June 28, very stressful event

2018 July 3, Skin is more painful

2018 July 8, started .5 mg cipralex 

2018 July 12 skin is even worst

Supplements Omega 3, Magnesium

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Yes, stress can both trigger and worsen withdrawal symptoms.  That is definitely the case with me.  It won't be permanent but can be quite unpleasant at the time.  

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End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

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Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

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March 22, 2022: hold at 4.8mg and shift to Imipramine taper

Aug. 5, 2022: shift back to Valium taper.  

Current dose as of Oct. 20, 2022: 3.2mg

Taper is 83% complete.

 

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