freespirit Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 JC, I think I'd have a pretty hard time with being permanently damaged by a practitioner. You are definitely right on about speaking up when something doesn't feel right. It seems to take some of us longer than others to actually be able to do that. I did Shamanic work myself for awhile...and did some sessions with friends and for their pets. I would if it seemed appropriate, share what I'd been given during the sessions. However, the difference was that I didn't expect them to follow or believe what I'd been told. It was a piece of information, for them to do whatever they wanted or needed to do with it..including completely discarding it, if it did not fit for them. It seems there are not a lot of practitioners who are humble, who are willing to "not know" and who are willing to learn from their clients. They want to be experts in exactly the same way western medical doctors do, with the privilege of holding all the power. The qi gong practitioner got the message from her guides that I needed to "simplify" my practice. What that meant was discarding what I had learned and was using effectively for over a year and half...she literally gave me pages and pages of the practices she wanted me to do instead..including things that needed to be done 2 or 3 times a day. Okay, how is it simplifying to learn a wack of new things at a time when you're in a kind of healing crisis? And how is it good to stop all comforting practices (including exercise), when you have a highly unstable nervous system? One of my friends thought maybe the message was for the practitioner herself...lol. I studied with Stan Grof, who is a transpersonal therapist, explorer, etc. People used to ask him about channeling and whether that information received was trustworthy. His response was, "just because someone is dead, it doesn't make them smart". Now, I can't profess to know what a "guide" or "helping spirit" actually is...but I always believe that discernment is a very useful skill to bring. I think that what some practitioners spout is much more a large dose of their ego, and much less about a guide or angel. Remeron for depression. Started at 7.5 mg. in 2005. Gradual increases over 8 years, up to 45 mg. in 2012.Began tapering in June 2013. Went from 45 to 30 mg in the first 3-4 months. Held for a couple of months.Started tapering by 3.75 mg every month or 2, with some longer holding periods. Eventually went down to 3.75 mg. about April 2014. Stopped taking Remeron August 2014. Developed issues with histamine a week after stopping--symptoms reduced through diet and a few supplements. Currently having issues with a few foods. Most of the histamine intolerance has resolved or is at least, in remission. Current Medications: Current Supplements: Cannabis (CBD and THC), Vitamin C, D, Quercetin, CoQ10, Tart Cherry, Probiotic, Phytoplankton oil, magnesium, Methyl B. What has helped me most: spending time in nature, qi gong, exercise, healthy diet, meditation, IV vitamins, homeopathy, massage, acupuncture, chiropractic, music, and cuddling my cats.. My introduction: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/8459-mirtazapine-withdrawal-freespirit/#entry144282 Please note: I am not a therapist or medical practitioner. Any suggestions offered come solely from my personal experience in recovering from childhood trauma, therapy, and AD use. Please seek appropriate care for yourself. “After a cruel childhood, one must reinvent oneself. Then re-imagine the world.” ― Mary Oliver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus JanCarol Posted September 1, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 1, 2015 I did Shamanic work myself for awhile...and did some sessions with friends and for their pets. I would if it seemed appropriate, share what I'd been given during the sessions. However, the difference was that I didn't expect them to follow or believe what I'd been told. It was a piece of information, for them to do whatever they wanted or needed to do with it..including completely discarding it, if it did not fit for them. ... I studied with Stan Grof, who is a transpersonal therapist, explorer, etc. People used to ask him about channeling and whether that information received was trustworthy. His response was, "just because someone is dead, it doesn't make them smart". Now, I can't profess to know what a "guide" or "helping spirit" actually is...but I always believe that discernment is a very useful skill to bring. I think that what some practitioners spout is much more a large dose of their ego, and much less about a guide or angel. I agree with you - information I receive that is "other worldly" shamanic, psychic, or whatever - I have to also consider that what it may be about is ME or THEM or ME and THEM or just THEM or just ME. I can't sort that out. So I present it as information, like "I was reading in this book and I saw something you might be interested in." - "I had this dream, you were in it, and here were the conditions..." It's just information. If it's meaningful to the other person, then they will know what to do with it. If it's not at all meaningful, then I pay closer attention, it's probably about me. Yeh. Spirit Guides are only as pure as the people who channel them. I'm not a very pure channel - so what of others? Where is the purest channel? usually the purest ones are to busy being pure (and that is an attachment, too) to go for "manifestations" and "psychic abilities" or "sidhis". I'm reading some Grof, but I want to learn more. "Easy, easy - just go easy and you'll finish." - Hawaiian Kapuna Holding is hard work, holding is a blessing. Give your brain time to heal before you try again. My suggestions are not medical advice, you are in charge of your own medical choices. A lifetime of being prescribed antidepressants that caused problems (30 years in total). At age 35 flipped to "bipolar," but was not diagnosed for 5 years. Started my journey in Midwest United States. Crossed the Pacific for love and hope; currently living in Australia. CT Seroquel 25 mg some time in 2013. Tapered Reboxetine 4 mg Oct 2013 to Sept 2014 = GONE (3 years on Reboxetine). Tapered Lithium 900 to 475 MG (alternating with the SNRI) Jan 2014 - Nov 2014, tapered Lithium 475 mg Jan 2015 - Feb 2016 = GONE (10 years on Lithium). Many mistakes in dry cutting dosages were made. The tedious thread (my intro): JanCarol ☼ Reboxetine first, then Lithium The happy thread (my success story): JanCarol - Undiagnosed Off all bipolar drugs My own blog: https://shamanexplorations.com/shamans-blog/ I have been psych drug FREE since 1 Feb 2016! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzen Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 http://www.heartspring.net/anti-depressant_withdrawal_alcohol_withdrawal.html Started Sertralin the spring of -13 and got up to 150 mgs (which was a mistake by my GP) Decided to taper it form 150 mgs in sep -13 by reducing the dosage by 12.5 mgs every other week. Got off Sertraline in Feb -14 and started noticing withdrawal after about 15 days off the meds. Still experiencing withdrawal after 2 years and 5 months off the medicine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted July 11, 2016 Administrator Share Posted July 11, 2016 There is no such thing as "neurotransmitter deficiency syndrome"; any of his reasoning arising from this is invalid. This naturopath is correct in that most conditions treated as "psychiatric" are caused by poor health, poor nutrition, unhealthy lifestyle patterns, or relationship difficulties. He is also correct in recommending moving towards healthy nutrition and lifestyle, and not expecting immediate recovery. His dietary suggestions seem reasonable. He seems like a sympathetic person. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icequeen Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Some of what he says may make sense for people who haven't been on antidepressants but for anyone who has experienced protracted SSRI withdrawal and tried more or less everything none of his suggestions work. Most of us develope total intolerance to most supplements and many foods - "natural" or not, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compsports Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 I will bet even people who have never been on psych meds would have trouble taking all the supplements that he suggests. To be honest, I get tired of these folks acting like they are harmless. They aren't. Drug cocktail 1995 - 2010 Started taper of Adderall, Wellbutrin XL, Remeron, and Doxepin in 2006 Finished taper on June 10, 2010 Temazepam on a PRN basis approximately twice a month - 2014 to 2016 Beginning in 2017 - Consumption increased to about two times per week April 2017 - Increased to taking it full time for insomnia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 I'm seeing a naturopath. I think supplements might help a little but in the end it's time, diet and exercise. But it is good to get some ideas from the naturopath and they also offer tests that can help determine fatigue, inflammation, etc. we know already GP's will often send us to the endocrinologists which usually is a waste of time. I just want a doctor to say once "you have WD". "You have CFS" or "you have inflammation". My latest GP visit he suggested the Ear, Nose and Throat Dr. Really? I can't walk a straight line. I can't leave my bed certain days. I have a fog thicker than a Chicago stuffed pizza and my head is pulsating like there is something living in there. Lexapro: started in 2002 at 10 mgs. Ambien: started as a as needed sleep aid in 2010. Quit Lexapro cold turkey in June 20015 due to contributing to low sodium issues. Restarted Lexapro in late November for a week (only 5 mgs) but quit due to dizziness side effects. Side effects worsened for 3 weeks until 12/24/15: Protracted WD hit, experienced extreme anxiety, insomnia lack of full concentration and social challenges. Reinstated Lexapro on 1/1/16 at 5 mgs. Increased per Dr to 7.5 MG. Tapered off Lexapro in March 2016. Started 50MG of Seroquel in late January 2016 for bedtime to help in eliminate Ambien. Tapered off both Seroquel and Ambien in March 2016. 2/14/16: Prescribed both Remeron (15 MG) and Temazapam (15 MG) for sleep. Also use Klonopin and Ambien again in place of Temazapam to avoid addiction. However I did take Temazapam 60 straight days 6/15/16: Stopped use of all benzo's and now use Belsomra 1-2 times a week. Still on 15 MG of Remeron 10/11/16: Off all psych medications After kindling, trying to regain my strength suffering from severe mental and physical fatigue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I have wondered if there is any real help for this outside the normal medical complex we are use to paying for thru insurance or taxes? I have read about others going to naturopaths over the years but do not recall any specific treatments? If you have been to a naturopath I would like to know what tests or treatments you had and the result of those treatments did they help or hurt? I would like to know please share. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaywill Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 My naturopath has saved my life. If it weren't for her I don't know where i would be. I was hospitalized for a week with withdrawal related issues and when i got out it was her that helped me recover. I will be 4 years off in August. Still having a hard time with some things. My naturopath has my circulation working because of acupuncture and all my minerals were depleted and she has treated that and she is really helping my stomach as I am having less reactions to food. 12 year on Paxil 20mg. Dropped to 5mg a few years before weaning, Was on 5mg weaned over a few months and then went off Aug 15, 2012. Severe withdrawal started Nov 2012 and have been slowly recovering. Have had all physical symptoms especially muscle, immune and food sensitivities! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheri755 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I see a naturopath August 10. Been on a waiting list for 2 mths for new patients. I truly hope she is helpful. I will report back on my first visit. Effexor XR 300 (brand) mg & various SSRIs 15 yrs (Effexor XR 300 mg past 10 yrs Clonazepam, 1.0 mg. am, .5 mg pm. - 15 yrs, 7-17-16- Began .5 three times a day Vyvanse 60 mg, - 2 yrs, Cut to 50 mg for 6 mths, Cut to 30 mg. on 4-1-16. Tapering. Approx. 4-1-15 began Effexor XR 300 taper, very slowly for a year. Held at 37.5 for about 3 mths. Cut to 18 mg for 2 wks to 0. WD began 2 wks later. Depression, anxiety, paranoia, low appetite, nausea. 7-14-16-Reinstated 5 beads Effx after 4 mths misery.Pooped out 10 days. 9-12-16-to present- Wide eyed terror, bedridden fear, no appetite/feeling of being full. 10-30-16- Began 15% liquid tapering of 30 mg Vyvanse. (25 mg) 11-13-16- Liquid Vyvanse 22 mg,11-27-16- Liquid 15 mg, 12-12-16- Vyvanse 12.5 for 5 days. 12-16 - 12-29, 15 mg. 11-20-16- Switched back to 1.0 clonazepam am & .5 bedtime 12-30-16- Moved to 15 mg COMPOUNDED Vyvanse.Current 4/11-4/25 7.5 mg.(10% ev 2 wks) Off Vyvanse Current meds:Effexor XR- 3 Beads, Clonazepam-1.0 mg am, .5 mg bedtime,Vyvanse-(tapering) Estradiol- 2 mg,Progesterone 200 mg,Testosterone 30 mg/ml,Nature Throid- 48.75 mg.(12-21-16-65 mg.) (4-18-17-81.25 mg) Current supplements: Fish Oil-1360 mg, Curamin- 2706 mg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus scallywag Posted July 30, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 30, 2016 I saw a naturopath who specialized in mental health concerns. He is/was very, very good. I didn't find that he had much, if any, knowledge about withdrawal or about adjusting his recommendations for someone who has cognitive challenges. I am now working my way slowly towards his full set of recommendations, trying one supplement at a time and gradually increasing it. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.1997-1999 Effexor; 2002-2005 Effexor XR 37.5 mg linear taper, dropping same #beads/week with bad results Cymbalta 60 mg 2012 - 2015; 2016: 20 mg to 7 mg exact doses and dates in this post; 2017: 6.3 mg to 0.0 mg Aug. 12; details here scallywag's IntroductionOnline spreadsheet for dose taper calculations and nz11's THE WORKS spreadsheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheri755 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I'm afraid that she will recommend a lot of supplements after blood work comes back which goes against the recommendations of SA. We'll see. Effexor XR 300 (brand) mg & various SSRIs 15 yrs (Effexor XR 300 mg past 10 yrs Clonazepam, 1.0 mg. am, .5 mg pm. - 15 yrs, 7-17-16- Began .5 three times a day Vyvanse 60 mg, - 2 yrs, Cut to 50 mg for 6 mths, Cut to 30 mg. on 4-1-16. Tapering. Approx. 4-1-15 began Effexor XR 300 taper, very slowly for a year. Held at 37.5 for about 3 mths. Cut to 18 mg for 2 wks to 0. WD began 2 wks later. Depression, anxiety, paranoia, low appetite, nausea. 7-14-16-Reinstated 5 beads Effx after 4 mths misery.Pooped out 10 days. 9-12-16-to present- Wide eyed terror, bedridden fear, no appetite/feeling of being full. 10-30-16- Began 15% liquid tapering of 30 mg Vyvanse. (25 mg) 11-13-16- Liquid Vyvanse 22 mg,11-27-16- Liquid 15 mg, 12-12-16- Vyvanse 12.5 for 5 days. 12-16 - 12-29, 15 mg. 11-20-16- Switched back to 1.0 clonazepam am & .5 bedtime 12-30-16- Moved to 15 mg COMPOUNDED Vyvanse.Current 4/11-4/25 7.5 mg.(10% ev 2 wks) Off Vyvanse Current meds:Effexor XR- 3 Beads, Clonazepam-1.0 mg am, .5 mg bedtime,Vyvanse-(tapering) Estradiol- 2 mg,Progesterone 200 mg,Testosterone 30 mg/ml,Nature Throid- 48.75 mg.(12-21-16-65 mg.) (4-18-17-81.25 mg) Current supplements: Fish Oil-1360 mg, Curamin- 2706 mg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I just started seeing one. Based on the initial tests he nailed my symptoms of fatigue, fog and maybe inflammation. However, I'm skeptical of supplements and diet of healing a brain issue. But it can't hurt. Lexapro: started in 2002 at 10 mgs. Ambien: started as a as needed sleep aid in 2010. Quit Lexapro cold turkey in June 20015 due to contributing to low sodium issues. Restarted Lexapro in late November for a week (only 5 mgs) but quit due to dizziness side effects. Side effects worsened for 3 weeks until 12/24/15: Protracted WD hit, experienced extreme anxiety, insomnia lack of full concentration and social challenges. Reinstated Lexapro on 1/1/16 at 5 mgs. Increased per Dr to 7.5 MG. Tapered off Lexapro in March 2016. Started 50MG of Seroquel in late January 2016 for bedtime to help in eliminate Ambien. Tapered off both Seroquel and Ambien in March 2016. 2/14/16: Prescribed both Remeron (15 MG) and Temazapam (15 MG) for sleep. Also use Klonopin and Ambien again in place of Temazapam to avoid addiction. However I did take Temazapam 60 straight days 6/15/16: Stopped use of all benzo's and now use Belsomra 1-2 times a week. Still on 15 MG of Remeron 10/11/16: Off all psych medications After kindling, trying to regain my strength suffering from severe mental and physical fatigue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susanne Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Interested in consulting one...not that im having severe withdrawal right now but i do want to treat my mental health problems when im fully with drawn from Lexapro. It's just difficult to work on yourself when your brain is resisting it...that is how it feels for me. Dont know where to find a naturopath who really knows his way with pure o(cd) though. Got a lot of info from www.balancingbrainchemistry.co.uk but I am hesitant to try nootropics like inosotol, tryptophan, gaba, etc without guidance from a naturopath. All my life: Occasional panic attacks. 2003: Burnout 2004: intrusion (OCD'ish) / anxiety. Therapies: acupuncture, Chinese herbs, hypnotherapy --> symptoms were manageable (did return once in a while), depression lifted.2007 - Relapse, started with Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. Therapist recommended Fevarin (fluvoxamine) 150 mg. Recovery after 3 months and remained stable. Mild side effects.2009 - Tapered fluvoxamine. No withdrawal symptoms. 2010 - Relapse, same Pure O thought and anxiety. Started taking 100 mg of fluvoxamine but after 9 weeks no change in symptoms. Did not have any effect on Pure O thought. Switched to Lexapro (escitalopram) 20 mg. Drug started working within 3 weeks. Mild side effects. Slowly over the years tapered to 5 mg.2015: Lots of personal issues and setbacks, occasional panic attack. 2016: April started skipping doses; 5mg escitalopram every other day (in hindsight a bad idea)May: Major relapse, anxiety and intrusion returned. Depression. Increased from 2,5 mg 15 mg in two weeks. Side effects: neuro-emotionsJune: Escitalopram has no effect on the frequency of the intrusion...after 4 weeks my general doctor advised me to do a fast taper to 5mg. Withdrawal effects (2/3 weeks): neuro-emotions, lack of focus, crying spells, fatigue, muscle twitches in legs, cortisol spikes just before waking up July: Stable on 5 mg. Depression and intrusion lifted during holiday (lots of sunshine, long walks and relaxing) August: Drop down to 2,5 mg. Withdrawal effects (tinnitus, headagues) are noticeable, but still mild in comparison to the big drop earlier.22th August: stopped escitalopram completely. Cortisol spikes just before waking up, still OCD (only temporary improvements), WD-depression and WD-neuro emotions.Update 6 dec: no medication, any withdrawal symptoms not noticable. Taking supplements for intrusive thoughts and overall well being: N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC) omega 3 fish oils, zinc, vitamin d, magnesium l-threonate, ginko biloba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus scallywag Posted July 30, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 30, 2016 Sheri & Christian: The ND is your consultant not your client or your boss. Tell them about your experience of psych drug withdrawal and that because of that you want to move slowly with the supplements -- start with them one at a time and build up slowly to the recommended dose -- and ask which supplement should be the first one, the second, etc. Ask them what the symptoms are of taking too much of every supplement and what you should do if you experience those symptoms. Ask them what symptoms you might experience from interaction effects between supplements. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.1997-1999 Effexor; 2002-2005 Effexor XR 37.5 mg linear taper, dropping same #beads/week with bad results Cymbalta 60 mg 2012 - 2015; 2016: 20 mg to 7 mg exact doses and dates in this post; 2017: 6.3 mg to 0.0 mg Aug. 12; details here scallywag's IntroductionOnline spreadsheet for dose taper calculations and nz11's THE WORKS spreadsheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheri755 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Scallywag, I'm writing your advice down to take with me for my appointment. That has been my main concern. My hubby suggested that I email her the Ashton manual beforehand in case she's not familiar with withdrawals. I know NDs are open minded but not sure how much they know about antidepressants. Effexor XR 300 (brand) mg & various SSRIs 15 yrs (Effexor XR 300 mg past 10 yrs Clonazepam, 1.0 mg. am, .5 mg pm. - 15 yrs, 7-17-16- Began .5 three times a day Vyvanse 60 mg, - 2 yrs, Cut to 50 mg for 6 mths, Cut to 30 mg. on 4-1-16. Tapering. Approx. 4-1-15 began Effexor XR 300 taper, very slowly for a year. Held at 37.5 for about 3 mths. Cut to 18 mg for 2 wks to 0. WD began 2 wks later. Depression, anxiety, paranoia, low appetite, nausea. 7-14-16-Reinstated 5 beads Effx after 4 mths misery.Pooped out 10 days. 9-12-16-to present- Wide eyed terror, bedridden fear, no appetite/feeling of being full. 10-30-16- Began 15% liquid tapering of 30 mg Vyvanse. (25 mg) 11-13-16- Liquid Vyvanse 22 mg,11-27-16- Liquid 15 mg, 12-12-16- Vyvanse 12.5 for 5 days. 12-16 - 12-29, 15 mg. 11-20-16- Switched back to 1.0 clonazepam am & .5 bedtime 12-30-16- Moved to 15 mg COMPOUNDED Vyvanse.Current 4/11-4/25 7.5 mg.(10% ev 2 wks) Off Vyvanse Current meds:Effexor XR- 3 Beads, Clonazepam-1.0 mg am, .5 mg bedtime,Vyvanse-(tapering) Estradiol- 2 mg,Progesterone 200 mg,Testosterone 30 mg/ml,Nature Throid- 48.75 mg.(12-21-16-65 mg.) (4-18-17-81.25 mg) Current supplements: Fish Oil-1360 mg, Curamin- 2706 mg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I just started seeing one. Based on the initial tests he nailed my symptoms of fatigue, fog and maybe inflammation. However, I'm skeptical of supplements and diet of healing a brain issue. But it can't hurt. Could you tell me what test were done? What they showed? I wonder if there will be any common denominators. There is a video on here of a doctor who got MS after medical help failed here she healed herself thru diet so diet can surely affect the brain helped with healing. this is her http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/08/05/doctor-cures-her-incurable-multiple-sclerosis-with-diet-alone/ What did he have you take in way of treatment? yes I am very noisy. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 My naturopath has saved my life. If it weren't for her I don't know where i would be. I was hospitalized for a week with withdrawal related issues and when i got out it was her that helped me recover. I will be 4 years off in August. Still having a hard time with some things. My naturopath has my circulation working because of acupuncture and all my minerals were depleted and she has treated that and she is really helping my stomach as I am having less reactions to food. What test did she do to find out your minerals were depleted...is she helping your stomach by way of replacing the minerals or is that a different treatment. I too am having many reactions and would be interested in hearing how to lessen reactions... is it diet not eating the food or something more? I have taken the foods that bother me out of my diet already still I would like to heal my gut so I could eat them again I just don't know if it is possible. How it she healing your gut? When you say she saved your life could you talk a bit more about that ... how were you feeling... was it the mineral loss caused what symptoms??? I have no clue about this... really want to know... thank you for sharing... B WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I was reading this today http://www.homeopathy.ca/articles_det13.shtml naturopathic remedies for MS it is interesting how many of the symptoms of MS are the same as wd... burning hands and feet even more interesting is the treatment changes depending on where the burning is... MS is caused by destruction of mylin in the CNS apparently it can heal... and it can come and go or just be forwardly debilitating. They have also listed scenarios of who is likely to respond best to Nat... treatment. As always it is the younger people with first symptoms.. that is not me still interesting. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus scallywag Posted August 1, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 1, 2016 Sherri, your husband's idea of sending the Ashton manual is a good one. The ND may be interested in having it. I'd list 2-3 key pages or topics in the email so that the ND can jump to the important points if s/he doesn't have much time. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.1997-1999 Effexor; 2002-2005 Effexor XR 37.5 mg linear taper, dropping same #beads/week with bad results Cymbalta 60 mg 2012 - 2015; 2016: 20 mg to 7 mg exact doses and dates in this post; 2017: 6.3 mg to 0.0 mg Aug. 12; details here scallywag's IntroductionOnline spreadsheet for dose taper calculations and nz11's THE WORKS spreadsheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 I'm afraid that she will recommend a lot of supplements after blood work comes back which goes against the recommendations of SA. We'll see. Did she recommend a lot of supplements? Are they helping if you are taking them? SA is not completely against supplements from my understanding... they say go slow start very low and work your way up I think I could be wrong. I found an online site that says this about wd.... The IV NAD and amino acids improve brain function based on higher levels of cellular energy production along with increased neurotransmitters, such as serotonin. There is some withdrawal symptoms for two or three days, but reduced by 70 to 90% when compared to “cold turkey” withdrawal. After three to five days as withdrawal symptoms disappear, craving subsides and clarity of thinking is restored. While undergoing the Neurotransmitter Restoration and NeuroReceptor Repair Phase, one on one addictions counseling is begun, with further therapy being pursued using clinical hypnotherapy, EMDR and acupuncture to address underlying psychological issues which have lead to substance abuse and addictive behavior. These must be resolved for long lasting recovery. Patients are provided with continued integrative care for their underlying medical problems, which helps them to feel better physically and mentally. Therefore they are more likely to continue healing psychologically, emotionally, socially and spiritually. A two year commitment to after care treatment is critical. Here is the link to the doctor http://drgrodski.com/services/addictions-rehab-recovery-vancouver/ Sorry I did not check where you live but if there is one there is another and I searched for benzo wd... tho the site does not mention as drug by sort or name. REALLY it would be easy to tell if it did not work clear thinking after a couple of days... if that did not happen you would know it did not work. Problem is if it did not work and you have a reaction.... worst case scenario. If it worked to be done in 2 years would be a God send... sure would like to talk to any person who tried this. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mort81 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 I think naturopaths and alternative health care is a wonderful option when you are past the acute stage of WD. They are so smart when it comes to diet and supplements but we need to be able to handle it. I think later on this year I'll have to go see one. Just a funny note about a western DOCTOR I saw and their lack of knowledge. I told him I was taking ACV for digestion and he laughed and said where did I hear that the internet.. I thought OMG you must be kidding me this guy is an idiot. Plus when I originally had digestive issues and was on liquids for 3 months my GP gave me boost and ensure as a healthy alternative. Go look at the quality of those ingredients and vitamins. Its like a McDonald's milkshake with the lowest quality of vitamin mixed in. And I'm pretty sure Pharma companies make them! Western medicine is so inept when it comes to managing daily health I can't even believe it. But if your in a crises situation that's when u needs them. Not day to day health or getting yourself healthy. Was on 30mg (Lexapro) for 7-8yrs20mg for 3 months (This was my choice my Doc wanted me to drop much faster)15 mg 2week10mg 2 weeks 5 mg 1 week0 since August 24th . PPI Dexlant 30 mg taper has begun. Cutting 20% currently. using zantac as needed. Benzo is currently 0.10mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglechicken Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Mort, I've been seeing a homeopath since January, and their approach to healing is holistic as opposed to focused on one thing like GPs. It's also a very long, drawn-out process, whereby I will take a remedy let's say every other day for a month....the homeopath will then assess how I am feeling and what my symptoms are based on what I previously reported. She will then tweak the remedy depending. It's very much a "wait and see" what happens kind of healing rather than hard hitting ABs or steroid treatments that doctors give their patients. However, the homeopath doesn't discourage from seeing the doctor in addition to having homeopathic treatment. At this time, I have no idea whether it's working or not. JC Dose History: 19 Feb 2014 - Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms faded. Held at this dose and experienced "windows and waves". 12 Oct 2017 Reduced dose to 1.25mg. 13 Mar 2018 Reduced dose to 0.625mg (approx.). 16 April 2018 0mg. Windows and waves triggered by stress (IBS/reflux, headaches, sinus issues) Aug 2019 Mirena coil fitted 6 Jan 2020 MAJOR Wave hit 19 months following last dose (protracted WD). Symptoms listed below Mar 2020 Mirena coil removal. Therapy: Nov 15th 2016 Re-started therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT Dec 2017 Started listening to Hypnotherapy CD (self-esteem). Nov 2019 Started couples therapy. Supplements: "Bioglan" Biotic Balance Ultimate Flora 10 billion CFU, live Bacteria, Probiotic, suitable for Vegetarians, with Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Lactobacillus Rhamnosus, Bifidobacterium Longum. "Pukka" Vitalise a unique blend of 30 energising botanicals. Diet: 16 April 2018 Detox cleanse / anti-candida for 90 days. Jan 2020 Started "small plate" diet (i.e child size portions). Exercise: Stretching, Yoga, Pilates, Spinning, Elliptical/upper body workout, walking. Medical Test Results: 4 Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 24 Feb 2017 Started weight loss program 24 Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment + anti-Candida diet started due to suspected Candida Related Complex (CRC). DETOXED for 7 weeks to "re-set" gut. April 2017 "Genova Diagnostics" Comprehensive Stool Analysis NEGATIVE; Full Blood Count (Normal) / Blood Cholesterol: 5.6 (Borderline) / Blood Sugar (Normal) / 28 Jun 2017 FSH 8.2 / 14 Nov 2017 FSH 17.7 Dec 2017 Blood Cholesterol: 3.9 (Normal) / Kidney Function (Normal) / Blood Sugar (Normal). December 2017 "Genova Diagnostics" Food panel allergy (bloodwork) analysis - a few "VERY LOW/VL" allergens; Mar 2018 "Genova Diagnostics" SIBO urine analysis: High Level of Yeast/fungal markers found in small intestine but NO SIBO. April 2018 Thyroid (Normal) / Full Blood Count (Normal) / FSH (Normal). 16 April 2018 Started anti-Candida diet - 3 month protocol. 25 March 2020 All test results "Normal". CRP" 5 mg/L (normal range to 0-5 mg/L). Symptoms: Flu-like symptoms, anxiety, anhedonia, sinus headaches right-side (severe), IBS issues/reflux (severe)**, tinnitus, fatigue, inner tremor, nausea, chills/hot flushes, pounding heart, muscular issues including stiff left hip flexor, intense anger, PSSD (ongoing). **Histhamine intolerance (suspected). Major Life Events: Re-located to UK from Canada: Jan 2016 My father died: 5:05pm, Monday 5 Feb 2018 Last Lexapro dose: 16 April 2018 (its now been over a year since I quit ADs) Moved house: Friday 23rd February 2018 "Divorced" toxic Mother: Monday 26 March 2018 Starting working again: 19 November 2018 Diagnosed with: 5th August 2021 PTSD/C-PTSD Diagnosed with: March 2022 Interstitial Cystitis (IC)/Painful bladder syndrome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compsports Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Mort, On a related note, I am scheduled for a colonoscopy on 3/24 and was dreading the prep like everyone else does. I realized that if I could find information on types of diets that might at least partially negate the side effects of the prep and lessening the amount needed to take, that would help considerably. Fortunately, I found this site. http://www.thegentlecolonoscopy.com/ I haven't yet purchased her book as I am waiting to see if the 2nd edition comes out before my procedure. But apparently, the author suggests going on a 7 day diet prior to the procedure that consists of soft foods and various supplements. Her reasoning is by the time a person gets to prep day, there isn't as much to clean out and there is a great possibility not needing to take alot of prep. This then results in a lot less side effects. I like my GI doc alot but all of a sudden, I felt extreme anger at the whole profession. If these folks know that people are avoiding a life-saving procedure because of prep issues, why hasn't the profession stepped outside its comfort zone to make things better for the patient? It is so frustrating. My sympathies that you have a doctor who is an idiot. I would rather starve than drink Ensure/Boost. I have never seen crappier products. Drug cocktail 1995 - 2010 Started taper of Adderall, Wellbutrin XL, Remeron, and Doxepin in 2006 Finished taper on June 10, 2010 Temazepam on a PRN basis approximately twice a month - 2014 to 2016 Beginning in 2017 - Consumption increased to about two times per week April 2017 - Increased to taking it full time for insomnia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephygrrl Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Has anyone tried this or any other natural forms of healing? May 2015-October 2015-Lexapro 20 mg fast taper due to pregnancy-no issues Feb 2017-Zoloft 25 mg, too anxious/digestive issues (on for 3 weeks), switched to Lexapro 10mg, Mild serotonin syndrome from mixing lex with trazodone 2 weeks into Lexapro, body could no longer handle 10mg. Reduced to 5mg, then to 2.5, then stopped all together after 2 weeks on lex as I couldn't handle the agitation. March 2017-Seroquel-1 dose for sleep-panic and heart racing-discontinued March 2017-Put back on 2.5 mg of Lex to titrate up slowly. 2.5 for 10 days, up to 5 for 5 days, dark thoughts, agitation, insomnia, reduced back down to 2.5mg and dr added remeron 7.5mg for sleep. Could not tolerate the two together (felt like ants in my head), so stopped Lexapro. Was good for 10 days then wd set in....nausea, shakiness, anxiety, complete insomnia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus JanCarol Posted April 27, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted April 27, 2017 Topics merged, from "Reiki and Alternative Healing" by Stephygrrl "Easy, easy - just go easy and you'll finish." - Hawaiian Kapuna Holding is hard work, holding is a blessing. Give your brain time to heal before you try again. My suggestions are not medical advice, you are in charge of your own medical choices. A lifetime of being prescribed antidepressants that caused problems (30 years in total). At age 35 flipped to "bipolar," but was not diagnosed for 5 years. Started my journey in Midwest United States. Crossed the Pacific for love and hope; currently living in Australia. CT Seroquel 25 mg some time in 2013. Tapered Reboxetine 4 mg Oct 2013 to Sept 2014 = GONE (3 years on Reboxetine). Tapered Lithium 900 to 475 MG (alternating with the SNRI) Jan 2014 - Nov 2014, tapered Lithium 475 mg Jan 2015 - Feb 2016 = GONE (10 years on Lithium). Many mistakes in dry cutting dosages were made. The tedious thread (my intro): JanCarol ☼ Reboxetine first, then Lithium The happy thread (my success story): JanCarol - Undiagnosed Off all bipolar drugs My own blog: https://shamanexplorations.com/shamans-blog/ I have been psych drug FREE since 1 Feb 2016! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglechicken Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 By way of an update, I stopped seeing the homeopath (lost hope with that process), and am only seeing my Naturopath. She is very good, and supportive and understands the "Healing crisis". Dose History: 19 Feb 2014 - Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms faded. Held at this dose and experienced "windows and waves". 12 Oct 2017 Reduced dose to 1.25mg. 13 Mar 2018 Reduced dose to 0.625mg (approx.). 16 April 2018 0mg. Windows and waves triggered by stress (IBS/reflux, headaches, sinus issues) Aug 2019 Mirena coil fitted 6 Jan 2020 MAJOR Wave hit 19 months following last dose (protracted WD). Symptoms listed below Mar 2020 Mirena coil removal. Therapy: Nov 15th 2016 Re-started therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT Dec 2017 Started listening to Hypnotherapy CD (self-esteem). Nov 2019 Started couples therapy. Supplements: "Bioglan" Biotic Balance Ultimate Flora 10 billion CFU, live Bacteria, Probiotic, suitable for Vegetarians, with Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Lactobacillus Rhamnosus, Bifidobacterium Longum. "Pukka" Vitalise a unique blend of 30 energising botanicals. Diet: 16 April 2018 Detox cleanse / anti-candida for 90 days. Jan 2020 Started "small plate" diet (i.e child size portions). Exercise: Stretching, Yoga, Pilates, Spinning, Elliptical/upper body workout, walking. Medical Test Results: 4 Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 24 Feb 2017 Started weight loss program 24 Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment + anti-Candida diet started due to suspected Candida Related Complex (CRC). DETOXED for 7 weeks to "re-set" gut. April 2017 "Genova Diagnostics" Comprehensive Stool Analysis NEGATIVE; Full Blood Count (Normal) / Blood Cholesterol: 5.6 (Borderline) / Blood Sugar (Normal) / 28 Jun 2017 FSH 8.2 / 14 Nov 2017 FSH 17.7 Dec 2017 Blood Cholesterol: 3.9 (Normal) / Kidney Function (Normal) / Blood Sugar (Normal). December 2017 "Genova Diagnostics" Food panel allergy (bloodwork) analysis - a few "VERY LOW/VL" allergens; Mar 2018 "Genova Diagnostics" SIBO urine analysis: High Level of Yeast/fungal markers found in small intestine but NO SIBO. April 2018 Thyroid (Normal) / Full Blood Count (Normal) / FSH (Normal). 16 April 2018 Started anti-Candida diet - 3 month protocol. 25 March 2020 All test results "Normal". CRP" 5 mg/L (normal range to 0-5 mg/L). Symptoms: Flu-like symptoms, anxiety, anhedonia, sinus headaches right-side (severe), IBS issues/reflux (severe)**, tinnitus, fatigue, inner tremor, nausea, chills/hot flushes, pounding heart, muscular issues including stiff left hip flexor, intense anger, PSSD (ongoing). **Histhamine intolerance (suspected). Major Life Events: Re-located to UK from Canada: Jan 2016 My father died: 5:05pm, Monday 5 Feb 2018 Last Lexapro dose: 16 April 2018 (its now been over a year since I quit ADs) Moved house: Friday 23rd February 2018 "Divorced" toxic Mother: Monday 26 March 2018 Starting working again: 19 November 2018 Diagnosed with: 5th August 2021 PTSD/C-PTSD Diagnosed with: March 2022 Interstitial Cystitis (IC)/Painful bladder syndrome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus JanCarol Posted May 14, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 14, 2017 I was exploring "Truth About Cancer" and reading articles debunking it, when I found this - which is valuable information: How Your Naturopathic Doctor Was Trained and Training, Licensing of Naturopathic Doctors It's slightly better than Chiropractic, but not as stringent as DO, MD, Pharmacy, or even Physical Therapy (I checked admission to all of these in the 90's. In order of stringency: Chiropractic (only need HS education) DO (Science major,GPA 3.5 requirements, high acceptance rate) PT (higher GPA - 3.8? requirements, low acceptance rate) MD (still higher GPA requirements & prerequisites, low acceptance rate) Pharmacist (highest GPA & prerequisite requirements, low acceptance rate) After my research, I started working towards the undergraduate requirements to become a DO. I also decided that for my own treatment, I would not go below that level. Divorce hijacked my healing plans. I'm glad it did, I would've burned out quickly. Naturopathic Doctor is below that level. GPA 3.0, 100% acceptance of all applicants above that GPA. Australia has "naturopaths" trained in "wellness schools," but not N.D.'s. I have not yet seen any MD's trained in Naturopathy here. That said, there are caring Healers in most healing professions. "Easy, easy - just go easy and you'll finish." - Hawaiian Kapuna Holding is hard work, holding is a blessing. Give your brain time to heal before you try again. My suggestions are not medical advice, you are in charge of your own medical choices. A lifetime of being prescribed antidepressants that caused problems (30 years in total). At age 35 flipped to "bipolar," but was not diagnosed for 5 years. Started my journey in Midwest United States. Crossed the Pacific for love and hope; currently living in Australia. CT Seroquel 25 mg some time in 2013. Tapered Reboxetine 4 mg Oct 2013 to Sept 2014 = GONE (3 years on Reboxetine). Tapered Lithium 900 to 475 MG (alternating with the SNRI) Jan 2014 - Nov 2014, tapered Lithium 475 mg Jan 2015 - Feb 2016 = GONE (10 years on Lithium). Many mistakes in dry cutting dosages were made. The tedious thread (my intro): JanCarol ☼ Reboxetine first, then Lithium The happy thread (my success story): JanCarol - Undiagnosed Off all bipolar drugs My own blog: https://shamanexplorations.com/shamans-blog/ I have been psych drug FREE since 1 Feb 2016! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 15, 2021 Administrator Share Posted September 15, 2021 FYI Treating mineral toxicity is a staple of naturopathic practitioners. This is relevant only if you have been exposed to a large amount of minerals. Have you worked in a mine, paint factory, or chemical facility? If so, a medical doctor can test for and treat such toxicity, paid for by your health insurance. Otherwise, treatment for mineral toxicity, which often involves strong drugs and herbs, can upset a nervous system already stressed by withdrawal syndrome. Proceed with naturopathic detoxification regimens at your own risk. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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