Muddles Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 If you do buy a mask Muddles get the MSA advantage 200 with GME P100 filters and buy spares and keep them with you. I contacted the company who makes the filters and was told use and humidity wear them out. He could not give me a timeline of wear as they were not meant for this use originally. I hope your able to enjoy you kids some this holiday season... and as always wish you peace. B Thanks btdt. Really hate this awful sensitivity. This year I found worse than last. Disheartening and getting very tiring. Hope you coped somehow. Thinking of you. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Martina23 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Muddles, are you feeling already better? You must be already two years out or more. 05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free- symptoms OCD Link to comment
btdt Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I am coping in my own way as always... when I can I go to bed at least I am generally not letting a bunch of people down as all have learned they can't depend on me any longer... tho I try best I can't I can't. The mask has helped me and when I am able I am trying to learn about DNA and supplements and anything that can help me detox my body/brain and get on with real living... that is the entire point. Wishing you well Muddles I recall you saying you had 23 and me done ... there are sites that help you sort how to get your methylation pathway working... and how to detox... I am just starting if I ever get good at it and well enough I will help you out... in the mean time check it out... there are many sites maybe one of them will strike pay dirt for you. peace B WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I came to tell you something I could not find your thread so put it here http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/11990-one-to-blame-for-the-ssri-industry/ WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Thinking of you Muddles hope your ok wishing you peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I have been down again Muddles before I went down this time I found a few places online that help decipher the 23 and me report.. geneticgenie.org https://www.promethease.com http://www.dramyyasko.com/our-unique-approach/methylation-cycle Geneticgenie will give you basics that can be used with Amy Yasko's protocol... I have not sorted it yet... I have been too sick. if I recall correctly promethease will sort what drugs you should never have taken... or never to take again....at least some not sure if they do it all it will give you some information I doubt it is complete but can't be sure. Yasko has a book I would like to read so maybe some day I could understand this well as right now I can barely recall anything I did learn from working with these sites... the book is called. Feel Good Nutrigenomics: Your Roadmap to HealthApr 16 2014 by Dr. Amy Yasko she has others not sure if this is going to fix anything or not... http://www.dramyyasko.com/resources/ This is another site of her's that offers supposedly more resources... it may be mostly about autism I am not sure as I just found it when I looked for her book just now. I know your not well Muddles but if you husband has any energy left maybe he could take a look at this.... wishing you well Muddles peace B ps I am not sure how long 23 and me allows a person access to the information so you may need to check on that... all the above charge a fee WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus bubble Posted June 28, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 28, 2017 Hello Muddles. I've been thinking about some of the 'old crowd' from when I first joined and remembered I haven't heard from you in a long while... How is everything? Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2 2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013) Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg. 2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days afterreinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours 28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr 2015 1 mg, 25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64 Xanax 9 month hold 24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26 Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus bubble Posted August 27, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 27, 2017 It's me again There is this very important survey that my give validation to what we have been through. It particularly focuses on the UK and every voice matters. In case you missed it here is the link. They are closing it tomorrow: https://roehamptonpsych.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_6gSHZN88sOmHDlr Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2 2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013) Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg. 2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days afterreinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours 28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr 2015 1 mg, 25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64 Xanax 9 month hold 24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26 Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. Link to comment
btdt Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 If you ever return here Muddles I want you to find a warm message from me saying I think of you often and am still hoping for your full recovery. so there it is I hope your well and too busy wooping it up to be here. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Muddles Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Thank you bubble and btdt. So nice to hear from you. Btdt...Strangely enough - I did log in last week to see how you were. Any changes? No wooping it up for me as yet unfortunately. Still suffering on a daily basis. I’m so devastated. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Martina23 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Muddles, I am sorry you are still suffering on the daily basis. I dont. But I have some permanent damage. I wanted also to sue these doctors, but in my country it is impossible. It makes me very angry that we have to suffer so much and these doctors get away unpunished. 05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free- symptoms OCD Link to comment
Adown Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Over a year already, pal. I was listening a song and I remembered you, so... was thinking to write a wall of text but instead I will just come and let a hug, as always. A big hug, pal. My best wishes, now and forever. 2005: sertraline + clorazepate until summer 2006, I quit very slowly without any problem and feeling even better. 2008 (around, I don't remember) I tried fluoxetine but leave the second day after a extrapidamidal syndrome. 2010: mirtazapine 30 mg + diazepam 10 mg, both everyday 2011: I tried to quit mirtazapine with the help of the psychiatrist, but nothing. I visit other psychiatrist and everyhing fails when escitalopram+mirtazapine and adding orfidal instead of diazepam, then I was 50mg every 12 hours of clorazepate for fix the damage of the new medication and I back to mirtazapine+diazepam. 2014: still with mirtazapine+diazepam, I quit diazepam, but then I back due I was not feeling better as I expected, I did like this: June 30/20mg, July 15/10mg, August 5mg, September just around 6 days 5mg, October 0, November 0, December back to 5/10, January same. 2015: Trying to quit mirtazapine since August, August was alternating few days between 30/22.5/15, September 22.5/15mg, October 15mg, November 15mg, December 15/7.5/0, January 15/7.5/0. My diagnostic before 2010 (all by doctors) was depression and anxiety, in 2010 was diagnostic with depression, anxiety, avoidant personality disorder, pineal cyst and don't remember if something more. Diagnostic since summer 2014 (all by doctors) is the same adding basal anxiety, agorofobia, anhedomia, depersonalization, derealization, hypothymia, asthenia. I will add obsesive compulsive disorder. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7869-adown-help-me-in-my-history/ Link to comment
Gth27 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) Is there any news about muddles? Edited September 21, 2018 by Altostrata removed mod note December 2017- start 15mg mirtazapine March 2018 - reduce from 15 to 7,5mg then after 2 weeks reduce tot 3,75mg April 2018- going back to 7,5mg July 2018-tapered 1mg off every 2 weeks. September 2018- 4,5mg Link to comment
Gth27 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Is it possible to contact with Muddles? I’m experience same kind off symptoms she has. Im only 10 months on mirtazapine and still tapering. I cant send her a message on this website. December 2017- start 15mg mirtazapine March 2018 - reduce from 15 to 7,5mg then after 2 weeks reduce tot 3,75mg April 2018- going back to 7,5mg July 2018-tapered 1mg off every 2 weeks. September 2018- 4,5mg Link to comment
btdt Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 On 11/28/2017 at 1:43 PM, Muddles said: Thank you bubble and btdt. So nice to hear from you. Btdt...Strangely enough - I did log in last week to see how you were. Any changes? No wooping it up for me as yet unfortunately. Still suffering on a daily basis. I’m so devastated. almost a year since your last post been awhile for me too... guess we are limping along... time keeps passing pm me if your eve back WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Adown Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 I'm slightly better, I think you would like to know it as if I read that from you. You're part of it, so thank you. Wherever you are, my support is with you somehow. My best wishes as always and a big hug pal. 2005: sertraline + clorazepate until summer 2006, I quit very slowly without any problem and feeling even better. 2008 (around, I don't remember) I tried fluoxetine but leave the second day after a extrapidamidal syndrome. 2010: mirtazapine 30 mg + diazepam 10 mg, both everyday 2011: I tried to quit mirtazapine with the help of the psychiatrist, but nothing. I visit other psychiatrist and everyhing fails when escitalopram+mirtazapine and adding orfidal instead of diazepam, then I was 50mg every 12 hours of clorazepate for fix the damage of the new medication and I back to mirtazapine+diazepam. 2014: still with mirtazapine+diazepam, I quit diazepam, but then I back due I was not feeling better as I expected, I did like this: June 30/20mg, July 15/10mg, August 5mg, September just around 6 days 5mg, October 0, November 0, December back to 5/10, January same. 2015: Trying to quit mirtazapine since August, August was alternating few days between 30/22.5/15, September 22.5/15mg, October 15mg, November 15mg, December 15/7.5/0, January 15/7.5/0. My diagnostic before 2010 (all by doctors) was depression and anxiety, in 2010 was diagnostic with depression, anxiety, avoidant personality disorder, pineal cyst and don't remember if something more. Diagnostic since summer 2014 (all by doctors) is the same adding basal anxiety, agorofobia, anhedomia, depersonalization, derealization, hypothymia, asthenia. I will add obsesive compulsive disorder. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7869-adown-help-me-in-my-history/ Link to comment
Muddles Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 On 10/22/2018 at 9:54 AM, Adown said: I'm slightly better, I think you would like to know it as if I read that from you. You're part of it, so thank you. Wherever you are, my support is with you somehow. My best wishes as always and a big hug pal. Ahhh that’s so nice to hear and thank you☺️ Sending you a big hug pal 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Muddles Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 2:40 PM, Gth27 said: Is it possible to contact with Muddles? I’m experience same kind off symptoms she has. Im only 10 months on mirtazapine and still tapering. I cant send her a message on this website. I don’t know why I can’t receive messages 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Leo1983 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Is your suffering from 15mg of Mirtazapine 4 years ago? May 2016 - Aug 2016 - Prozac 20mg March 2017 - June 2017 - Sertraline 100mg. Horrific withdrawal 5 m onths. July 2017 - Aug 2017 - Mirtazapine 15mg. Horrific. August 2017 - December 2017 Fluoxetine 10mg for 2 weeks ghen Escitalopram 20mg for 12 weeks. Never felt normal since this. Or baseline. March 2018 - June 2018 - Escitalopram 5mg for 12 weeks. Stopped and here i am full of symptoms i never had. Link to comment
Gth27 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 6 hours ago, Muddles said: I don’t know why I can’t receive messages Maybe your Messagebox is full? Can you get in touch with me? Ive got a few questions. December 2017- start 15mg mirtazapine March 2018 - reduce from 15 to 7,5mg then after 2 weeks reduce tot 3,75mg April 2018- going back to 7,5mg July 2018-tapered 1mg off every 2 weeks. September 2018- 4,5mg Link to comment
btdt Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Hope you get your account sorted out soon and that you are well enough to post should you choose to. Wishing you peace and healing WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Gth27 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Hello how are you now? December 2017- start 15mg mirtazapine March 2018 - reduce from 15 to 7,5mg then after 2 weeks reduce tot 3,75mg April 2018- going back to 7,5mg July 2018-tapered 1mg off every 2 weeks. September 2018- 4,5mg Link to comment
jonnypeters1234567 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Please let us know how you are Muddles 2009-2010 Citalopram 20mg CT no problems Sertaline 2010- 6monnths 2011- 2017 June 2017- Citalopram 20mg CT Link to comment
Gth27 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Can you please get in touch with me December 2017- start 15mg mirtazapine March 2018 - reduce from 15 to 7,5mg then after 2 weeks reduce tot 3,75mg April 2018- going back to 7,5mg July 2018-tapered 1mg off every 2 weeks. September 2018- 4,5mg Link to comment
Hopefull Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 How are you doing these days? DRUG HISTORY: November 2013- Zoloft, ( Bad reaction). January 2014 - March 2014 Seroquel.( Quit Cold Turkey). January2014- Mirtazapine, I was taking 15mg at one stage, reduced to 7.5mg, Pgad reactions to Mirtazapine. Doctor kept increasing it to 37.5mg, until July 2014. No improvement, experiencing panic attacks, on 37.5 mg. I had enough by October 2014. Began tapering. October 2014- Started tapering Mirtazapine from 37.5mg. September 2015- Down to 4mg of Mirtazapine. Crashed. September 16th- Up dosed to 5mg. Held this dose for almost 5 months. Stabilised. February 2016- Began tapering again. From 5mg to 4.5mg of Mirtazapine. (Rocking the boat, again)! Lol. Link to comment
Muddles Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 I’m back 😔 I’ve recently had an adverse reaction to an antibiotic ear spray. I am literally back where I was 6 years ago and I’m absolutely devastated. Having to relive the trauma of those first years - it actually feels so much worse. I don’t know how I’m going to do this again. Advice for anyone who has had bad adverse reactions to a drug - check everything you take....even years down the line. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Armorall Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Muddles have you read Train28 or Aeroman's stories? I'm sure there's more. They also took meds after healing and it set them back, but they bounced back much quicker than they thought- they didn't have to wait as many years to be back where they were prior to taking the antibiotics. Don't worry! You will bounce back sooner than you think! 3/21/19 started Bupropion XL 150 mg 3/21/19 started Risperidone 2mg 7/7/19 start Abilify half dose 5 mg. discontinue Risperidone 7/9/19 full dose Abilify 10 mg 7/29/19 discontinued Abilify due to panicky side effects 8/2/19 Began Latuda 20 mg 8/5/19 discontinued Latuda due to similar side effects 8/10/19 discontinued Bupropion after realizing it was causing the insomnia From 8/10/19 no drugs whatsoever Currently taking vitamin C, D, E, a probiotic and fish oil. Message me here if you want: https://www.facebook.com/morra.lal.3/ I've been getting a lot of fake friend requests, so please send a message before friend requesting me, thank you! Link to comment
Muddles Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 Thank you. I would have hope if it this wasn’t so severe. I felt the reaction in my brain once I used the 3rd spray and I’ve literally gone back to being 24/7 suicidal mess with everything I had in those first years. It has been a week now and I’m so much worse. I’m so scared and traumatised by this. maybe it’s because I wasn’t healed - I was doing a lot better though and this just seems cruel. What if acute stage takes 3 years like it did? I haven’t got it in me to do that again. I’m sorry for the ramble - I’m just so desperate. 2 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Armorall Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 The fact that you got better shows that you can get better again. There's no evidence that says that your acute stage will take three years again, and again, the stories I pointed to you says otherwise. What's weird is that now that we are in Covoid, people are doing what we are doing at an external level- they are hanging out and waiting for this to pass. This is what we have to do (albeit with way more suffering). The question is (and I think Pug said this) how do you burn up time? You do have it in you to "do it again" and it probably won't even be half of what it was the first time in time spent. Burn up time and it will get better. 3/21/19 started Bupropion XL 150 mg 3/21/19 started Risperidone 2mg 7/7/19 start Abilify half dose 5 mg. discontinue Risperidone 7/9/19 full dose Abilify 10 mg 7/29/19 discontinued Abilify due to panicky side effects 8/2/19 Began Latuda 20 mg 8/5/19 discontinued Latuda due to similar side effects 8/10/19 discontinued Bupropion after realizing it was causing the insomnia From 8/10/19 no drugs whatsoever Currently taking vitamin C, D, E, a probiotic and fish oil. Message me here if you want: https://www.facebook.com/morra.lal.3/ I've been getting a lot of fake friend requests, so please send a message before friend requesting me, thank you! Link to comment
Gth27 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Before the antibiotic did you still had anhedonia? Where you able to socialize? I hope you get better again December 2017- start 15mg mirtazapine March 2018 - reduce from 15 to 7,5mg then after 2 weeks reduce tot 3,75mg April 2018- going back to 7,5mg July 2018-tapered 1mg off every 2 weeks. September 2018- 4,5mg Link to comment
Muddles Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 Yes I still was quite emotionally numb but it was not so severe - I enjoyed my children’s company and got pleasure out of things. I couldn’t work and was still very apathetic and struggled cognitively. This deep dark depression had definitely gone, the trippy deep awful dp/dr had lifted a lot. I was managing to sleep 5-6 hours again. The sensitivities had got a lot better. Don’t get me wrong - it was not a normal Life and I was still very frustrated and angry but it was nothing compared to this. I just can’t believe it. I know I can’t do this again - it’s so traumatising. Yes I could socialise - was difficult but managed 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Gth27 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 What are your symptoms now? Im also back in acute after a few beers because I felt better and wanted to socialize with my friends. Im very scared cant do this again. I could do most things again with my kids and meet friends. But now I cant eat again and felt very fatigued. December 2017- start 15mg mirtazapine March 2018 - reduce from 15 to 7,5mg then after 2 weeks reduce tot 3,75mg April 2018- going back to 7,5mg July 2018-tapered 1mg off every 2 weeks. September 2018- 4,5mg Link to comment
Muddles Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 When did you have a few beers? I think the worst things that’s come back full force is the severe black suicidal depression. I have lost my sleep - doom wakes me up as soon as I drift off most nights. Sensitivities are severe again. Random thoughts. Just hell in my body and brain again. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Muddles Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Gth27 said: What are your symptoms now? Im also back in acute after a few beers because I felt better and wanted to socialize with my friends. Im very scared cant do this again. I could do most things again with my kids and meet friends. But now I cant eat again and felt very fatigued. Are you still on a low dose of Mirt? 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Gth27 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 No Im off for 17 months now. I never felt healed but I could do most things. My whole body changed, got severe eye problems. I think its something with hormones because when I used miconazole I felt a lot better. If you look at propecia help forum there are a lot of Guys who also used antidepressants and got the same problems people have who used propecia its very scary. Thats why I think its got something to do with hormones in my case. December 2017- start 15mg mirtazapine March 2018 - reduce from 15 to 7,5mg then after 2 weeks reduce tot 3,75mg April 2018- going back to 7,5mg July 2018-tapered 1mg off every 2 weeks. September 2018- 4,5mg Link to comment
Avrgejane Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 @Muddles are you feeling any better? Avrgejane (47 year old female) 2015 - approx. 5-6 months on cipralex due to miscarriage stress, 10 mg, tapered over about 2-3 months successfully 2017 - Approx. 8 months on cipralex due to miscarriage stress, 10 mg, tapered over about 3 months successfully Beginning of July 2017 - took approx 3 Ativan sublingual .5 and about 4 oxycodone for pain from miscarriage. Mid July 2017 - took 1/2 prozasin 2mg (1mg) and 1/4 zoplicone 5mg (1.25mg) for about 2-3 weeks but made me feel awful so I CT. August 2017 - 5 days of vaginal valium 10mg after pelvic floor pain after D&C. August 11, 2019 - prescribed amitriptyline for nerve pain in teeth, started at 12.5mg for a week, then 25mg for a week (panic attacks), increased to 50mg for 2 weeks (panic attacks), increased to 100mg for 4 days (panic attacks) followed by an extremely quick taper - 50mg for 3 days, 25mg for 3 days, 12.5mg for 3 days, 6mg for 2 days. Have not taken amitriptyline since Sept 30th, 2019. Took Clonazipam intermittently (14 in 40 days average .25-50 mg) from Aug 25-Oct 8, 2019. Currently taking 90mg natural desiccated thyroid. Link to comment
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