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Hey guys! 


So I've been meaning to see this guy around the corner from me. He's a psychologist who worked in pharmaceuticals for a part of his career and couldn't take what he saw and now is a certified nutritionist, counselor and owns a natural health store where he takes patients, and puts them on tapering plans and monitors their new plan of supplements, etc.


I made an appointment with him (not telling my husband). Most around me have either been on meds, think taking anti depressants 'work great' and don't understand that these meds are just not for me and i'm trying to find my way safely off of them. I even have a friend who says 'i'm just never going off Cymbalta so I don't have to worry about withdrawals' - and a cousin who's been on prozac for 6 years who says 'i can't cry and i have insomnia but i'm cranky without prozac' - So these are the people i'm surrounded by.


My gut, my heart and soul are telling me to get off of these now matter how low I'll get, I'll get out of it through exercise, nutrients, etc.


So here's this guy. (of course he's heard of Dr Peter Breggin)  http://www.earthfoods.us/page1


His name is Dr. Pappas. I've talked to him before in the store but I made an actual one on one appointment with him.


If you can help me come up with questions for him maybe or things to look out for I will.


Thanks so much!

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I don't see anything on his site that suggests he knows anything about coming off psyche meds, it looks like he's in the business of selling supplements and health products.  My advice is be careful.  I don't think you will do any better than the tapering plans here on this site and if he sells you any supplements, check here to find out if anyone has had bad reactions and start with a very small dose.


But please let us know how your appointment goes.

I'm not a doctor.  My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one.

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Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects

2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010

Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal

DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms

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You're right-I'm going to make sure of that. He doesn't advertise it but for the first half of his career he worked for pharmaceuticals as a clinical psychologist and got so fed up with it he chose to go the natural route-I'm sure he obviously makes a living selling the products in the store he owns but I have to believe he knows something about what medication does to the brain and the best way to go about substituting things. I'm definitely going to check back with you guys.


THANK YOU Petu. Hope you're feeling well today.

I see you took BusPar-what was your experience on that? My dr said that if AD's don't work for me he's going to try that next (but i may just not take it)

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