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ChessieCat

I don't have a direct response to johnson at this time, but when searching for something to post to this member I found a series on suffering which is well worth listening to and I pray that SA members might find it as helpful and edifying as I have:

 

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johnson

Thanks Chessiecat. I’m not trying to insult anyone or their beliefs or start a conflict. I’m just trying to make sense of things. And am hoping for something constructive and positive. Thanks. 

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ChessieCat

Hi johnson,

 

I could tell by the way you worded your original post that you are asking in a genuine way.  I do want to respond to you but want to compile it so as to give you a complete response.

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ChessieCat

Hi Johnson, this is a link to an explanation:  https://bible.org/article/why-there-suffering

 

And this is how to become a Christian.  It's as simple as repenting, which is acknowledging that we are a sinner (born with a sin nature), and believing/having faith that Jesus, who was sinless, paid the penalty for our sin, the penalty which we rightly deserved.

 

On 11/13/2017 at 2:36 PM, ChessieCat said:

We have to remember that we live by faith, not feelings.  In withdrawal our feelings can be non existent or all over the place.

 

I searched for how do I know that I am saved on YouTube last night and found some bridge diagram videos.  I considered this one the best of what I watched because it includes lots of Biblical references and includes them on the screen.  I found that pausing to read them was better than not knowing how long it would remain on the screen and trying to read it too quickly but not thoroughly.

 

 

 

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johnson

Thanks for your reply chessiecat. But here is my problem with religion. I’ll use Christianity as an example to help you understand what I’m saying.  But all religions are at fault for the same flaw. So I am not Christian. I was not born into a Christian family. I had no choice what or who I was born into. Neither do the other 5 billion non Christians in this world. According to Christianity if I and the other 5 billion non Christians on this earth want to be ‘saved’ and go to heaven we all must be baptized in a church. Otherwise we won’t be ‘saved’ and won’t go to heaven. Does that make sense? Does that sound fair? Would a loving God do that to his people who were born non Christian and had no choice what religion they were born into? Does that mean we will go to hell for an eternity? Why would a loving God do that?

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johnson

Chessie I just want to make it clear I’m not attacking you in anyway. These are just questions/thoughts I have. And they’ve gone unanswered. Thanks. 

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ChessieCat
7 hours ago, johnson said:

Chessie I just want to make it clear I’m not attacking you in anyway. These are just questions/thoughts I have. And they’ve gone unanswered. Thanks. 

 

I am quite happy for you to ask questions. ☺️

 

On 9/13/2018 at 1:53 PM, johnson said:

According to Christianity if I and the other 5 billion non Christians on this earth want to be ‘saved’ and go to heaven we all must be baptized in a church. Otherwise we won’t be ‘saved’ and won’t go to heaven.

 

I think this is where your confusion is coming from.

 

This video will explain it much better than me trying to put it into words.  And this booklet may help:  

http://media.wretchedradio.com/downloads/Dont_Stub_Your_Toe.pdf

 

And if you still have questions, please feel free to ask them.

 

 

 

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johnson

Thanks for your reply Chessie.

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SummerRain

This provides another perspective:

 

https://cac.org/universal-restoration-2018-09-13/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018-09-15%20DM&utm_content=2018-09-15%20DM+CID_abbc00ce78604a6a4e58617111af0a16&utm_source=Campaign%20Monitor%20Google%20Analytics&utm_term=Thursday

 

I believe God does love everyone regardless of faith or background. We each have our own individual journey to take and have something to offer others in their journey. I believe ultimately we will all find ourselves in the embrace of God, who loves unconditionally and eternally, to a degree that we cannot even (as humans) imagine. x

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SummerRain

imagine the greatest love you could have for someone and multiply by infinity - that is God's love for all of us. If we would always want the best for those we truly love and be ready to forgive and protect them, imagine how much God wants the best for us and forgives and protects us.

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ChessieCat
6 hours ago, SummerRain said:

I believe ultimately we will all find ourselves in the embrace of God, who loves unconditionally and eternally

 

If this is what you believe then your eternal life is at stake.  Please take a moment to read the following:

 

God is love, but he is also a just God.

 

Q:  Why should we think God has a less sense of justice than mankind?

 

God is loving, but that’s not all He is; He’s also a good judge.

 

Q:  Should a loving human judge allow criminals to go free?

 

Of course not.  If we, with our finite justice system, think it’s necessary to punish criminals in civil court, how much more should an infinite God judge our crimes, our sins against Him?

 

Ask yourself the million dollar question:

 

Q:  Will you go to Heaven when you die?

 

Here’s a quick test:

 

Q:  Have you ever told a lie, stolen anything, or used God’s name in vain (eg OMG)?

 

Q:  Have you looked with lust?  (Which is adultery of the heart in God’s eyes)

 

THE BAD NEWS:

 

If you’ve done these things you will stand before God as a lying, thieving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart.  And no amount of good works can make up for past crimes.  The Bible warns that your punishment will be in a place called Hell.

 

THE GOOD NEWS:

 

However God is not willing that any should perish, which is why He sent His Son to suffer and die on the cross.  Sinners broke God’s Law, but Jesus paid their fine.  That means He can legally forgive your sins: “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.”  Then He rose from the dead and defeated death.

 

Tomorrow is not guaranteed.  Repent from sin today and trust in Jesus Christ alone for salvation, and God will forgive you and grant you the free gift of everlasting life.

 

Text thanks to:  https://www.livingwaters.com/

 

AND this video:  

 

 

 

 

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SummerRain

Hi ChessieCat, I do believe we need to repent from our sins and that we are saved by faith. However, I also believe that God will help all of us to do this - some in a more roundabout way than others. God us just but also merciful.

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AbbyElfie

From experience I too believe deeply that everyone will come to the direct experience of God, whether in this life or another. Our sense of time and space is only relative, we can't see beyond it but in reality we just need to realise we're already saved. There is nothing ultimately separate from God, all else is illusion. So he appears to everybody in different ways and through different gateways. 

 

I will pray for those here in meditation today. May I ask that you pray for me also, that I will have the strength, courage and wisdom to survive future waves. That my spirit guide me to my purpose in this life and move through me in the best possible way. And that I find the right people and conditions for healing, so that I can be of most service to others. Thank you x

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Rezten

Hi,

I am a firm believer in the healing power of prayer.  I pray for everyone on this site daily.  I pray for healing, comfort and peace.  God Bless Everyone 

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ChessieCat

I've just watched the new documentary called "American Gospel".  It is well worth watching.  It is available on Vimeo for a small rental fee (US $5, I think and $7 AUS) for 48 hour access.  They are hoping to make more documentaries.  There are some trailers on YouTube

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Rezten

Thank you! God Bless you.

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BB1979

I love coming to this forum as I know God has a plan for every one of us.  And in the midst of darkness it's hard to understand why but that's when we need to look to God the most and trust.  And this has definitely brought me closer to God.  Is this whole experience meant in my life to reel me back in?  Put God again front and center?  This experience is awful.   I, however, am grateful for the closeness I've felt to and conversations I've had with God.  To remind me that no other human being, no amount of money, no food, no place.....there is nothing on this earth that can heal us.  God's time and grace, they are the only things to heal this pain.   God is showing us it has to be him.   Only him.  I ride in the car with my little and have been listening to a bunch of Lauren Daigle.   Her new CD is absolutely amazing and lyrics so resonating.  Here are the lyrics to her song "Still Rolling Stones".  If you have a second, youtube or itune it and listening.  Puts a little fight in me. She says she's the one who dug this grave and to me that represents the guilt of taking the meds in the first place.   When she says all at once I came alive, this beating heart, these open eyes.  I feel like that's how the awakening from recovery will be.  A rebirth.  Prayers and love to everyone.  

                                                                                "Still Rolling Stones"

                                                                                   Out of the shadows

Bound for the gallows
A dead man walking
Till love came calling
Rise up (rise up)
Rise up (rise up)

Six feet under
I thought it was over
An answer to prayer
The voice of a Savior
Rise up (rise up)
Rise up (rise up)

All at once I came alive
This beating heart, these open eyes
The grave let go
The darkness should have known
(You're still rolling rolling, you're still rolling rolling oh)
You're still rolling stones
(You're still rolling rolling oh)
You're still rolling stones

Now that You saved me
I sing 'cause You gave me
A song of revival
I put it on vinyl
Rise up (rise up)
Rise up (rise up)

I once was blinded
But now I see it
I've heard about the power
And now I believe it
Rise up (rise up)
Rise up (rise up)

All at once I came alive
This beating heart, these open eyes
The grave let go
The darkness should have known
(You're still rolling rolling, you're still rolling rolling oh)
You're still rolling stones
(You're still rolling rolling oh)
You're still rolling stones

I thought that I was too far gone
For everything I've done wrong
Yeah, I'm the one who dug this grave
But You called my name
You called my name
I thought that I was too far gone
For everything I've done wrong
Yeah, I'm the one who dug this grave
But You called my name
You called my name

All at once I came alive
This beating heart, these open eyes
The grave let go
The darkness should have known
(You're still rolling rolling, you're still rolling rolling oh)
You're still rolling stones
(You're still rolling rolling oh)

You're still rolling stones
(You're still rolling rolling oh, you're still rolling rolling oh)
You're still rolling stones
(You're still rolling rolling oh)
You're still rolling stones (you're still rolling, rolling)
(You're still rolling rolling oh, you're still

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Jill28

I love all of this. 

Thank you all sharing His love. I pray everyday for courage to get through these very difficult days. I pray nightly for all of us going through this ordeal. 🙏

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Rezten
11 minutes ago, Jill28 said:

I love all of this. 

Thank you all sharing His love. I pray everyday for courage to get through these very difficult days. I pray nightly for all of us going through this ordeal. 🙏

I do the same everyday

 

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Martina23

I also prayed for us. I hope it helps.

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Stormstrong

I don't know how to pray, anymore?

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Rezten
7 hours ago, Stormstrong said:

I don't know how to pray, anymore?

I think that is something a lot of struggle with. I have had my moments, yet I still cling to God's faithfulness.   Sometimes I can only say "Lord Please help me, thank you Jesus" 

 

Trust that you are healing and through Gods grace you get through the day.

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Molder

Hi there, I am doing really good. I am completely cured from antidepressants and the withdrawals. God cured me. One night I was at the end of my rope crying and in complete torture I just dropped on my knees with my hands in the air reaching to the ceiling and yelled out to God to just give me one more chance and that I would do right in the world. A few days later I woke up and started crying because I could feel that the awful torture was gone. It has never come back. If your going through the torture of these horrible drugs turn to God and he will help. Turn to him for EVERYTHING!!! I had EVERY horrific symptom from these poisonous antidepressants  Wanted to kill my self. I just couldn’t take it anymore. I couldn’t sleep or eat. I had severe anxiety and depression. Couldn’t leave my house and was really paranoid. I had muscle spasms that were so bad it looked like something was trying to come out of my skin. I went to countless doctors that told me it was all in my head. They all acted like they never heard of this. Dropped on my knees and yelled out to God in agony one night woke up a few days later COMPLETELY HEALED!! Can you explain that? Now I was not a godly person then but I am trying to be now!

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Rezten
11 hours ago, Molder said:

Hi there, I am doing really good. I am completely cured from antidepressants and the withdrawals. God cured me. One night I was at the end of my rope crying and in complete torture I just dropped on my knees with my hands in the air reaching to the ceiling and yelled out to God to just give me one more chance and that I would do right in the world. A few days later I woke up and started crying because I could feel that the awful torture was gone. It has never come back. If your going through the torture of these horrible drugs turn to God and he will help. Turn to him for EVERYTHING!!! I had EVERY horrific symptom from these poisonous antidepressants  Wanted to kill my self. I just couldn’t take it anymore. I couldn’t sleep or eat. I had severe anxiety and depression. Couldn’t leave my house and was really paranoid. I had muscle spasms that were so bad it looked like something was trying to come out of my skin. I went to countless doctors that told me it was all in my head. They all acted like they never heard of this. Dropped on my knees and yelled out to God in agony one night woke up a few days later COMPLETELY HEALED!! Can you explain that? Now I was not a godly person then but I am trying to be now!

You are very blessed.  And God does work miracles.  I pray and beg God everyday to heal me completely.  

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