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Will it go away. I'm scared

I had it briefly while ON Prozac and it went away by itself. When you cover the eyes, is it one eye or both? I'm sorry, that's all I know. Basically, in WD, our bodies turn into playgrounds for capricious mischief, but things usually sort out in time.

1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms.

Zyprexa started about 9/06, mostly 5mg. Tapered 4/12 through12/29/12

Wellbutrin. XL 300 mg started 1/07, tapered 1/18/13 through 7/8/13

Oxazepam mostly continuously since 6/06, 30mg since 12/12, tapered 1.17.14 through 8.26.15

11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble)

9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol

7.4.14 Started Walsh Protocol

56 years old

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susie, on the weekends, do you spend less time staring at screens? Are your symptoms worse or better then?

 

Quite often, withdrawal makes people very sensitive to light. If you spend hours on the computer each day, that could be the source of your symptoms.

 

You might want to try using dark glasses (brown or amber are best) or amber glasses at least part of the time that you're looking at a bright electronic screen. See these and other topics in the Symptoms and Self-care forum:
http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/304-light-sensitive-try-blocking-out-blue-light/
http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/397-tv-or-computer-use-in-evening-can-disrupt-sleep/
http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2519-computer-program-adjusts-blue-light-to-time-of-day/

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I'll keep a check, thank you. Do you think I'm doing okay to stay at 10mg now it's been a week. My dr is wondering if I should even go to 20mg which was the dose I took when last on it to see if it would help with the sleep. Is this possible

Zoloft 1998-2001

Fluoxetine 2001-Oct 2013.  Had a major panic attack first ever, so tried lexapro for 1 day, gave me another panic attack so switched to 

20mg Paxil, 1 week later went down to 10mg and did good Oct 2013-Feb 2014.  Weaned down to 5mg for 2 weeks and then every other day for a week and then switched to lexapro for 3 days and then zoloft for 6 days.  Withdrawal had started now.  Tried to reinstate 5mg of paxil but made it way worse.

Buspar Feb 26th to present 7.5X2 daily (tried 3 days at half and anxiety worse)

Reinstated Fluoxetine 10mg Mar 12th 

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If I were you, I would not increase the Prozac dosage. It may be keeping you from sleeping as it is.

 

Yes, it's very important to keep DAILY notes of symptom patterns on paper. There may be some very easy ways for you to control some of your symptoms.

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Alto I wore my reading glasses yesterday most of the day, that have anti glare. It helped a little bit but by the early evening my eyes just seem to give out. It was even tough driving in the night yesterday. I work in customer service and they won't let me wear any other kind of glasses. I am some days off now so I will watch if it's better. My big thing now is sleep. It's sheer insomnia and can't even get to sleep, or stay asleep. I can't keep taking benadryl. My dr is convinced that the timing is the buspar and so am I. It can be a side effect. He said there's nothing I can do naturally to counter act a medicine causing it. It can't be the prozac I've only been on it a week, this has been since buspar started. I know by dropping to a half that the buspar was working for anxiety, what do I do now. The dr wants to just stop it and up the prozac. Please give me advice. It's been 3 1/2 weeks on buspar, do I need to taper. Help

Zoloft 1998-2001

Fluoxetine 2001-Oct 2013.  Had a major panic attack first ever, so tried lexapro for 1 day, gave me another panic attack so switched to 

20mg Paxil, 1 week later went down to 10mg and did good Oct 2013-Feb 2014.  Weaned down to 5mg for 2 weeks and then every other day for a week and then switched to lexapro for 3 days and then zoloft for 6 days.  Withdrawal had started now.  Tried to reinstate 5mg of paxil but made it way worse.

Buspar Feb 26th to present 7.5X2 daily (tried 3 days at half and anxiety worse)

Reinstated Fluoxetine 10mg Mar 12th 

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Dear Sacredsusie,

 

I hope you soon get on the right path that will help you stabilise and reduce your symptoms.

 

This is just to let you know that your signature is still not displaying. I just want to emphasise how important it has proved to me to listen to what Alto says (even and especialyl when it contradicts to what doctors are saying). It's strange to tell someone that I'm receiving advice from an online forum and not from a qualified medical professional but I really don't care. My 'qualified medical professional' simply has no clue about how these drugs works. Her profesional ignorance certified by a degree in medicine has cost me so much suffering and agony that I don't even care to ask what she thinks I do about my meds because i my case her opinion is totally irrelevant. I'm not saying the same is true for you but just sharing my experience.

 

If I understand what Alto is trying to say, it is that you are taking (or have reinstated) on a too high dose of Prozac which is too activating for you and is therefore causing your sleep problems.

 

I have no idea about Buspar but just want to say that i would personally take Alto's advice rather than my doctor's (or in my case, my doctor would have no advice, except maybe that I'm very 'mentally ill' since not even those super new generation of drugs can fix me...)

 

It's great you have soem time off so that you can totally focus on yourself and monitor the signals your brain is sending so that Alto can help put you on the right track to recovery.

 

best,

 

bubble

Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2

2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013)

Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 
1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg.
2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg
went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days after
reinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours
28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr  2015 1 mg,  25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64  Xanax     9 month hold

24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26

Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic 

I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. 

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Thanks bubble. I totally agree and that's why I'm asking. I can't trust my drs. I don't know what else to do for my signature, it says it's saved and has all the info on my profile. The insomnia has been going on way longer that the reinstatement of the prozac, it can't be the prozac. This morning I haven't even watched tv and my eyes are struggling. Over all my crying and desperation seem better though. I have to at least concur with my dr that it's probably the buspar because within a day of taking it I couldn't sleep. It is a side effect. Thanks for your thoughts bubble and I am totally trying to listen

Zoloft 1998-2001

Fluoxetine 2001-Oct 2013.  Had a major panic attack first ever, so tried lexapro for 1 day, gave me another panic attack so switched to 

20mg Paxil, 1 week later went down to 10mg and did good Oct 2013-Feb 2014.  Weaned down to 5mg for 2 weeks and then every other day for a week and then switched to lexapro for 3 days and then zoloft for 6 days.  Withdrawal had started now.  Tried to reinstate 5mg of paxil but made it way worse.

Buspar Feb 26th to present 7.5X2 daily (tried 3 days at half and anxiety worse)

Reinstated Fluoxetine 10mg Mar 12th 

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Susie, look at your Settings (from the drop-down menu next to your name in the upper right of the page) and make sure your signature is there.

 

If you think you're getting an adverse reaction from the Buspar, gradually reduce it until you're off it.

 

Speak to your manager about wearing dark glasses for eyestrain. Wear dark glasses outside and inside when you're using the computer, smartphone, tablet, or TV.

 

You are going to have to take care of yourself. This may mean speaking up in ways and doing things you're not used to.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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How much do I reduce by and for how long? I already know anxiety comes back from trying out the half buspar so do I go up on prozac to help like the dr said?

Zoloft 1998-2001

Fluoxetine 2001-Oct 2013.  Had a major panic attack first ever, so tried lexapro for 1 day, gave me another panic attack so switched to 

20mg Paxil, 1 week later went down to 10mg and did good Oct 2013-Feb 2014.  Weaned down to 5mg for 2 weeks and then every other day for a week and then switched to lexapro for 3 days and then zoloft for 6 days.  Withdrawal had started now.  Tried to reinstate 5mg of paxil but made it way worse.

Buspar Feb 26th to present 7.5X2 daily (tried 3 days at half and anxiety worse)

Reinstated Fluoxetine 10mg Mar 12th 

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How long have you been on Buspar and how much are you taking?

 

(If you would set up your signature properly, I wouldn't have to ask this over and over.)

 

See http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/3210-tips-for-tapering-off-busipirone-buspar/

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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3 1/2 weeks 7.5 twice a day

Zoloft 1998-2001

Fluoxetine 2001-Oct 2013.  Had a major panic attack first ever, so tried lexapro for 1 day, gave me another panic attack so switched to 

20mg Paxil, 1 week later went down to 10mg and did good Oct 2013-Feb 2014.  Weaned down to 5mg for 2 weeks and then every other day for a week and then switched to lexapro for 3 days and then zoloft for 6 days.  Withdrawal had started now.  Tried to reinstate 5mg of paxil but made it way worse.

Buspar Feb 26th to present 7.5X2 daily (tried 3 days at half and anxiety worse)

Reinstated Fluoxetine 10mg Mar 12th 

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Paxil withdrawal hell

 

Hi. I'm new to this forum, but I have been searching and searching trying to find what is wrong with me. I was put on zoloft in 1998 for slight post partum depression and was moving half way across the world and the dr felt I may need a little help. I was on it for 3 years and then I had a traumatic event happen and it wasn't helping too much anymore, so I got switched to Fluoxetine 20mg. I was doing great on that and yet went through some rough times, like a divorce and left to raise my children alone and a strenuous job, but was a very strong tough woman. I believe it really helped me and I stayed on until oct last year. This is when I woke in the middle of the night having my first ever panic attack, and yet my life was finally settled and very happy. It came out of nowhere. I went to my dr and he said it was an old med and had stopped working. He gave me xanax and switched me to lexapro. I got so scared of switching my med and this one I really liked not working anymore and I had another panic attack after taking my first dose of lexapro. So dr switched me to paxil 20mg. I felt anxiety gone within a couple of days but I couldn't sleep for 2 weeks and had brain zaps. I went down to 10mg and was doing good. I also made an appointment with a psychologist. After 2 1/2 months I saw the new dr and she didn't like paxil so weaned me down to 5mg and then off in 2 weeks. Tried the lexapro and after 3 days got derealization and so got switched to zoloft. After 6 days I was scared to death and stopped that. 5 days later I went back to my pdoc crying and still with derealization. She reinstated 5mg of paxil and told me to use my xanax. I didn't want to use xanax. After 5 days of the reinstated paxil I was beyond crazy with anxiety. I couldn't stand still, I couldn't stop crying, I wanted to scream and scream and started having suicidal thoughts out of desperation. Used a few .25mg xanax. She stopped the paxil and started me on Buspar 7.5 2X a day. I am 5 weeks post paxil now and it's hardly getting better. Full of anxiety, can't sleep, can't stop the racing thoughts, can't focus at all and worse I can't see properly. Dr now wants to say I'm bipolar maybe. I've never had anything like this in my life. I feel I'm losing everything. I feel I will lose my job, my children. What is happening to me?

 

Zoloft 1998-2001

Fluoxetine 2001-2013

Lexapro 2013 1day

Paxil oct 2013-feb 3rd

Lexapro 3 days

Zoloft 6 days

Paxil 6 days

Buspar feb 26th to present 7.5 x2 daily

Reinstated fluoxetine 10mg mar 12th

Zoloft 1998-2001

Fluoxetine 2001-Oct 2013.  Had a major panic attack first ever, so tried lexapro for 1 day, gave me another panic attack so switched to 

20mg Paxil, 1 week later went down to 10mg and did good Oct 2013-Feb 2014.  Weaned down to 5mg for 2 weeks and then every other day for a week and then switched to lexapro for 3 days and then zoloft for 6 days.  Withdrawal had started now.  Tried to reinstate 5mg of paxil but made it way worse.

Buspar Feb 26th to present 7.5X2 daily (tried 3 days at half and anxiety worse)

Reinstated Fluoxetine 10mg Mar 12th 

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Do you think I could try just taking the buspar once a day and in the morning only

Zoloft 1998-2001

Fluoxetine 2001-Oct 2013.  Had a major panic attack first ever, so tried lexapro for 1 day, gave me another panic attack so switched to 

20mg Paxil, 1 week later went down to 10mg and did good Oct 2013-Feb 2014.  Weaned down to 5mg for 2 weeks and then every other day for a week and then switched to lexapro for 3 days and then zoloft for 6 days.  Withdrawal had started now.  Tried to reinstate 5mg of paxil but made it way worse.

Buspar Feb 26th to present 7.5X2 daily (tried 3 days at half and anxiety worse)

Reinstated Fluoxetine 10mg Mar 12th 

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Thank you for being considerate of my time and not making me read a lot to find the answer to a simple question.

 

Did you read the link I gave you about stopping Buspar?

 

You tried cutting your dosage in half and then you complained about the results. You will need to go off by a smaller amount.

 

I suggest you try reducing each of your daily doses by a quarter and see how that works for a week.

 

I would not increase the Prozac. Increasing Prozac will not help you sleep.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Sorry, I sound like I've offended you. I'm doing the best I can. I'm very sorry

Zoloft 1998-2001

Fluoxetine 2001-Oct 2013.  Had a major panic attack first ever, so tried lexapro for 1 day, gave me another panic attack so switched to 

20mg Paxil, 1 week later went down to 10mg and did good Oct 2013-Feb 2014.  Weaned down to 5mg for 2 weeks and then every other day for a week and then switched to lexapro for 3 days and then zoloft for 6 days.  Withdrawal had started now.  Tried to reinstate 5mg of paxil but made it way worse.

Buspar Feb 26th to present 7.5X2 daily (tried 3 days at half and anxiety worse)

Reinstated Fluoxetine 10mg Mar 12th 

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You're fine, Susie. I'll try and help you with your signature. When you are signed in, go to the very top right corner, and see where it says your username? Click on it, and a box will pop up. Choose "My Profile". It will take you to another page and on the top right you should see something that says "Edit My Profile". Click on that, and it will take you to another page. On the left side of that page you will see a list, choose "Signature." Type your drug history in the post box that shows up and then click "Save Changes" and drug history should now show up below every one of your posts.

 

I hope this helps. I know it's confusing, especially if you're in the midst of some bad withdrawal. Hang in there, you can get through this.

a.k.a JMarie

Paxil since Mar.1998

2006-2007:40-20mg
2009: 20mg to 14mg 2010: 14mg to 10.5mg 2011: 10.5 to 7.6mg  2012: 7.5 to 6.8mg

2013: 6.7-6.3mg 2014: 6.2mg-5.8mg 2015: 5.7 to 5.15mg 2016: 5.1-4.6mg

1/19/17: 4.5mg 3/17/17: 4.4mg

6/15/17: 4.35mg 8/10/17: 4.3mg

1/29/18: 4.1mg 5/07/18: 4.0mg

7/31/18: 3.9mg

 

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Thank you so much ladybug. I have done this twice now and both times it said it had saved. I don't know what else to try

Zoloft 1998-2001

Fluoxetine 2001-Oct 2013.  Had a major panic attack first ever, so tried lexapro for 1 day, gave me another panic attack so switched to 

20mg Paxil, 1 week later went down to 10mg and did good Oct 2013-Feb 2014.  Weaned down to 5mg for 2 weeks and then every other day for a week and then switched to lexapro for 3 days and then zoloft for 6 days.  Withdrawal had started now.  Tried to reinstate 5mg of paxil but made it way worse.

Buspar Feb 26th to present 7.5X2 daily (tried 3 days at half and anxiety worse)

Reinstated Fluoxetine 10mg Mar 12th 

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I've tried again

Zoloft 1998-2001

Fluoxetine 2001-Oct 2013.  Had a major panic attack first ever, so tried lexapro for 1 day, gave me another panic attack so switched to 

20mg Paxil, 1 week later went down to 10mg and did good Oct 2013-Feb 2014.  Weaned down to 5mg for 2 weeks and then every other day for a week and then switched to lexapro for 3 days and then zoloft for 6 days.  Withdrawal had started now.  Tried to reinstate 5mg of paxil but made it way worse.

Buspar Feb 26th to present 7.5X2 daily (tried 3 days at half and anxiety worse)

Reinstated Fluoxetine 10mg Mar 12th 

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Your signature is showing up for me Susie

I'm not a doctor.  My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one.

My Introduction Thread

Full Drug and Withdrawal History

Brief Summary

Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects

2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010

Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal

DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms

Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal)

May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins.

Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes

Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine

Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D

June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens.

Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered

Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days.

April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close.

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It's showing up now. :)

a.k.a JMarie

Paxil since Mar.1998

2006-2007:40-20mg
2009: 20mg to 14mg 2010: 14mg to 10.5mg 2011: 10.5 to 7.6mg  2012: 7.5 to 6.8mg

2013: 6.7-6.3mg 2014: 6.2mg-5.8mg 2015: 5.7 to 5.15mg 2016: 5.1-4.6mg

1/19/17: 4.5mg 3/17/17: 4.4mg

6/15/17: 4.35mg 8/10/17: 4.3mg

1/29/18: 4.1mg 5/07/18: 4.0mg

7/31/18: 3.9mg

 

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Thank you for your help and time ladybug. If I reduce my buspar by still taking a full 7.5 in the morning but half in the afternoon do you think this is okay. It adds up to the same as reducing each by a quarter, it's just easier to cut. I took 1.5mg of melatonin last night and got 4 hours sleep. I did read the link alto, thank you, I was hoping as I had only been taking it for 3 weeks the taper wouldn't have to be so slow. I'm sorry I'm frustrating I'm just so scared to mess with these meds now and if I could sleep I wouldn't be so concerned. Do you think I still need to reduce the prozac? Or do I need to stay put on the dose and stabilize

Zoloft 1998-2001

Fluoxetine 2001-Oct 2013.  Had a major panic attack first ever, so tried lexapro for 1 day, gave me another panic attack so switched to 

20mg Paxil, 1 week later went down to 10mg and did good Oct 2013-Feb 2014.  Weaned down to 5mg for 2 weeks and then every other day for a week and then switched to lexapro for 3 days and then zoloft for 6 days.  Withdrawal had started now.  Tried to reinstate 5mg of paxil but made it way worse.

Buspar Feb 26th to present 7.5X2 daily (tried 3 days at half and anxiety worse)

Reinstated Fluoxetine 10mg Mar 12th 

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scaredsusie, I believe if you read this topic again, we've told you many times not to change the Prozac dose.

 

As for reducing Buspar, it's your choice. You seemed to have a problem with a reduction of 50%. You can try 25% or less. It's up to you how you do it.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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I thought you were telling me not to up it any but had still asked me if I had reduced it down to 5mg.

Zoloft 1998-2001

Fluoxetine 2001-Oct 2013.  Had a major panic attack first ever, so tried lexapro for 1 day, gave me another panic attack so switched to 

20mg Paxil, 1 week later went down to 10mg and did good Oct 2013-Feb 2014.  Weaned down to 5mg for 2 weeks and then every other day for a week and then switched to lexapro for 3 days and then zoloft for 6 days.  Withdrawal had started now.  Tried to reinstate 5mg of paxil but made it way worse.

Buspar Feb 26th to present 7.5X2 daily (tried 3 days at half and anxiety worse)

Reinstated Fluoxetine 10mg Mar 12th 

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We don't recommend changing 2 drugs at once.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

All postings © copyrighted.

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