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I did not go, btdt.  I did finally get to go visit my Mum and beyond.  Just recently.  Came home via automobile with my sister and brother in law.  My sister had dubbed one of the National Parks as our adventure stop on the way home.  I do still want to get to that area in Arizona where she practices(outside of all her speaking engagements and book work) so..............it may be........ someday.  We were so close to Cottonwood and Sedona(nearby) is known as a healing vortex of sorts(if you are into that.....sheesh, I am).  So I'll get back.  Thanks for the reminder.

 

The appointment was for last October......2016.  They rescheduled me in September........ and then I decided to cancel altogether.........reasons being: unsure if insurance would cover most of the visit(s), was doing well enough then and now, and did not want to over complicate my recovery with fears of dementia, etc., and was plenty busy at the time with what I like to call "work" here at home. 

 

I also had wanted to read more of her stuff before I go........and still do and will.........educate myself........then hopefully team on up with her a bit in my further recovery path.

 

The last thing I need now.......seriously........is to be told that I am ill or at high risk for this or that...........

 

So glad you posted though btdt.  Northeastern Arizona is also a site for a possible job inquiry.  Grace is Northwest, but hey......I like driving.  Synchronicity??  Hope so.

 

Love, peace, healing, growth,

 

and manymoretodays

 

p.s. recovery is healing and vice versa me thinks........IDK :blink:

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. manymoretodays

 

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Thanks for letting me know.  I was hoping she would have some healing advice and would if I was expecting just a bad prognosis without any help I would not bother seeing her either.  

I sure hope she does more than present bad news to people who are suffering. I hope but I don't know. 

peace mmt

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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I don't know........does she offer any healing advice in any of the stuff that you have read of hers? 

 

I might get there someday.  I mean she gets this stuff I think....the damages caused and all that.........not sure if what she offers is hope or not......  She does do a good disclosure as far as prescribing goes........I kind of think she does as I got one of her "patient" packets. 

 

At the time.......back around when I thought I was going to go........it sure seemed she focused on the post medication/drug early dementia difficulty.

 

Who knows what she is like to team with or if she teams with the people she sees or just manages.

 

Good that she writes and lectures though.

 

I am happy to report that my brain is doing pretty darn good considering.

 

I feel I have invested enough sometimes in supporting psychiatrists.  She is not cheap, even with insurance, if they cover at all.

 

Good to see you posting.

 

mmt

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. manymoretodays

 

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In some respects I feel like I have had a lobotomy the black board has been wiped clean I can't recall much especially specifics but I do think I recall one article that made suggestions on healing I just have no clue where I seen it.  I believe it was a conference she was speaking at.  There is no other reason for anyone to see her in my view at least... healing would be the only reason I would see her the damage is done it is not like she can undo what is done but how to get out of it from here ... that is my question and always has been. 

 

So many times I thought I was healing and was going to come out the other side of this mostly intact... now it is not looking so good.  I wish somebody like her was working close to me I can't travel far now.  Maybe if I had seen a doc like her years ago I would not have gotten to this point but there are a lot of maybes in this post as usual.  It just seems she is the only doctor willing to write about the real damage or the real problems these drugs cause and that to me is the first step in healing it ...knowing it... most other doctors don't want to admit it tho I am sure most of them know they will not talk they will not treat as if there has been drug damage ...if they can't do that they have no chance of helping us in my opinion. 

 

Thanks I am surprised to be back actually not sure why I am here... it just happned like so much of my life... seems to be what happens when I was busy making other plans.... here I am   

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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btdt,

If you want......if you can btdt........I can host you and get you there........I would be glad to.  I would really love to get to Sedona, one town over from Cottonwood.  Also acquainted with another woman there who does the Native American thing......sweats, sundances, the works.  I think she used to hang a shingle and do some healing stuff.   She couldn't put us up as she cares for 2 family members but could maybe meet up with her as well while there.  Give them a call if you want......see what pricing would be and all that.  It's probably about 12 hours or so from here by auto/car.......maybe less.  They typically do 2 appointments after you have submitted records and stuff or even in your own words, the appointments about a day apart.  With a charge for her time looking at records prior to your appointment.  I remember that much and still have the packet that they sent.  Just a thought.......who knows though........maybe?

 

mmt

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. manymoretodays

 

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It sounds great and thank you for the offer my travel limits are way shorter than 12 hours I cancelled two apts this past month that would be an hour on the train and 15 min in a cab have not managed to get back to the nd for results since last Nov... he is a half hour car trip away... not up to it just now 

but thank you I appreciate the thought

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Okay.......maybe one day, eh......going forward.  Just feeling thankful myself.......... for each day as it has been going well for me.  Although.......I really have to remember to rein on in my enthusiasm for life.......knowing how easily I can also go on overwhelm.  Think well then.  Someday you may be up to it.  ;)

 

love, peace, recovery/healing, growth,

manymoretodays

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. manymoretodays

 

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Dr. David Healy on prolonged antidepressant withdrawal syndrome ...

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I did s doc trip yesterday we talked dopamine for this movement disorder ... I am trying to sort this and don't have the energy right now but will come back later and chech these links... I wonder if effexor induced movement disorder is treated any differently then other movement disorders... since withdrawal I can't handle many drugs so doubt I could use the ones suggested for movement diordrers... we will see

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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It sounds great and thank you for the offer my travel limits are way shorter than 12 hours I cancelled two apts this past month that would be an hour on the train and 15 min in a cab have not managed to get back to the nd for results since last Nov... he is a half hour car trip away... not up to it just now 

but thank you I appreciate the thought

http://dsm.psychiatryonline.org/doi/abs/10.1176/appi.books.9780890425596.MedicationInduced

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Neuroleptic-Induced Parkinsonism Other Medication-Induced Parkinsonism | Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome | Medication-Induced Acute Dystonia | Medication-Induced Acute Akathisia | Tardive Dyskinesia | Tardive Dystonia Tardive Akathisia | Medication-Induced Postural Tremor | Other Medication-Induced Movement Disorder | Antidepressant Discontinuation Syndrome | Other Adverse Effect of Medication

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Medication-induced movement disorders are included in Section II because of their frequent importance in 1) the management by medication of mental disorders or other medical conditions and 2) the differential diagnosis of mental disorders (e.g., anxiety disorder versus neuroleptic-induced akathisia; malignant catatonia versus neuroleptic malignant syndrome). Although these movement disorders are labeled “medication induced,” it is often difficult to establish the causal relationship between medication exposure and the development of the movement disorder, especially because some of these movement disorders also occur in the absence of medication exposure. The conditions and problems listed in this chapter are not mental disorders.

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Did anyone ever find Dr. Grace Jackson?? I am in N.C.

Ativan- Currently taking 3.17 mg 6x a day for 4 years currently doing a liquid taper 

Anafranil- 125 mg was on for 2 years, 2016-March 2018 off only in 2 weeks my last dose was March 6 

Metoprolol-50mg twice daily for 2008-now

Prilosec-40mg once daily 2013-now

Singular-10mg once daily 2013-now

Magnesium-300mg 6 months 

 

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I found her in Arizona.  That was the summer fall of 2016.  I did not go see her.  I don't think she practices in N.C. anymore.

https://www.graceejacksonmd.com/

Hmmm, she does telepsychiatry according to that link!  Perhaps that's an option for you?

 

Sending much Love, peace, and healing,

mmt

 

 

 

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Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. manymoretodays

 

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Thank you!!!

Ativan- Currently taking 3.17 mg 6x a day for 4 years currently doing a liquid taper 

Anafranil- 125 mg was on for 2 years, 2016-March 2018 off only in 2 weeks my last dose was March 6 

Metoprolol-50mg twice daily for 2008-now

Prilosec-40mg once daily 2013-now

Singular-10mg once daily 2013-now

Magnesium-300mg 6 months 

 

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No problem.  From what I understand about tele- psychiatry it may be more for between Dr. to Dr. ..........prescriber to prescriber where the more experienced/knowledgeable helps another less familiar with psych medication.  I don't know for sure though.

 

Soooo........if your insurance is acceptable perhaps your Dr(s) might be willing to consult with her.

 

It does sound like you are having some pretty severe W/D now.  Unfortunately that can happen with a rapid decrease off or C/T. 

It does get better though.

 

Hoping you get a window soon without additional medications.

 

mmt

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. manymoretodays

 

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