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Bellisimo

Has anyone become religious during WD or after WD

 

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alexjuice

More than ever.

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Zoe

I'm with Alex.

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Nikki

was before due to 12 step program and seeing other people turn their lives around from a belief in a power greater than themselves.

 

Daily practice of prayer.  So many time my prayers have been "Fox Hole Prayers" due to WD and anxiety/depression.

 

You know "God please help."  Urgency.

 

I don't know necessarily what "God" or Higher Power" is but I choose to believe.

 

Hugs

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MissSerene

Absolutely. Am lifelong in my faith tradition and also participate in Al-Anon. I love it.

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Bellisimo

I think its quite common that people who have not been religious before some trauma, turn then out religious lol.. myself i had never ever consider god or any religion before i went thru this trauma, and during it and still never consider it as much as now

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used2be

Has anyone become religious during WD or after WD

 

I have always had my faith. It is my only strength right now.

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Wildflower0214

Yes, this process has made me depend on God more than I ever have been in all my life.

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Denstar51

During my 13 years on Paxil, and 4 years on Lamictal, I was an Oblate in St. Benedict's order  for 22 years and frequently lived at Saint Paul's Abbey monastery in Newton, New Jersey. My main function with my order was to maintain our 700 acre Christmas tree farm and help facilitate our Christmas tree sales & public relations operation in December and at one time to help maintain our honey bee farm. Once I stopped Paxil in 2008 after almost going insane from this horrid drug, all outside activity stopped and 1 year into w/d my wife of 27 years developed terminal cancer, and 13 months later died. It was truly thru the grace of God that somehow as sick as I was I was able to take care of her at home with the help of hospice and after her death focused my full attention on my Lord Jesus and my faith. Otherwise I doubt I would have had the strength to accomplish all this. In my 7th year now of w/d I still have some issues, but through the grace of God I hope to resume a somewhat normal lifestyle, and again devote myself to some form of ministry. I am so grateful to PaxilProgress and the kind supportive people there for the support I received during those first hellish years Of grief & w/d.   

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Wildflower0214

During my 13 years on Paxil, and 4 years on Lamictal, I was an Oblate in St. Benedict's order for 22 years and frequently lived at Saint Paul's Abbey monastery in Newton, New Jersey. My main function with my order was to maintain our 700 acre Christmas tree farm and help facilitate our Christmas tree sales & public relations operation in December and at one time to help maintain our honey bee farm. Once I stopped Paxil in 2008 after almost going insane from this horrid drug, all outside activity stopped and 1 year into w/d my wife of 27 years developed terminal cancer, and 13 months later died. It was truly thru the grace of God that somehow as sick as I was I was able to take care of her at home with the help of hospice and after her death focused my full attention on my Lord Jesus and my faith. Otherwise I doubt I would have had the strength to accomplish all this. In my 7th year now of w/d I still have some issues, but through the grace of God I hope to resume a somewhat normal lifestyle, and again devote myself to some form of ministry. I am so grateful to PaxilProgress and the kind supportive people there for the support I received during those first hellish years Of grief & w/d.

I am so very very sorry to hear of your loss of your wife at such an emotionally vulnerable time for you.

 

I have never realized how important faith really is until now. And, I don't think I ever would have known if this had not happened. I grew up Catholic. :) I often said I wanted to go on a retreat to a monastery. But, I never got around to it. Didn't have "time". Well, maybe now, I do.

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Faithbarelysurviving

I would not be alive without my faith. I try to pray. I want to believe that I have all the saints and Virgin Mary watching over me and my family. I also have confession and communion as often possible and it does help. Even when I was hosp. I got my priest in

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Faithbarelysurviving

Wildflower, this is my hope, to retreat to a monastery but i am too sick to travel or to plan... I wish I had a really close one where I could go! I wish so much!

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Darwin

No, i talk to my body to heal it self not wish/hope to a make believe person.

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manymoretodays

Yes.  Both while in withdrawal and under the effect of prescribed psychoactives.

 

Not sure, for me, if it is all defined as becoming more religious, in my case........well sure, sometimes...........hopefully more spiritual?  In the sense of having a guide which is well outside of myself.

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gemini

I have become extremely determined to find proof of god and questining my own beliefs e.g. is god a dieistic god, a personal god (involved in human affairs) is god in nature? Is there a god or do we live in a naturalistic closed system?? When I accepted Jesus christ as my personal savior did I do so under the auspices and sure influence of ssris? I became determined to find god because when you're at death's door you question the meaning of life and a possible afterlife. Plus I was always philosophical

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gemini

Why do I believe Jesus christ was the son of god other THan through a book writtend decades after his death? Why was there little to no writte history recording Jesus meanderings and recording miracles?

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Marta

Good question....since I am an atheist I always see christians (or other) admit that if you choose to belive you should not question too much baout god...if you choose to belive, you have to belive!

 

I think (just my oopinion no intend to offend) this is a lack of respect in everyone own spirituality.

(my spirituality is 99% abstent btw :-P )

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starburst

I've been a christian for many years but have definitely found my faith a source of comfort these past few years. I actually find that doing my daily Bible Study really helps me to calm down.  The book of Psalms is a constant reminder that I am not alone in my anxious state!

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JanCarol

Before the drugs, I was ripped away from all my former beliefs by a narcissist yogi, who wanted me to believe only in him, his teachings, his yoga, his practice.  

 

The practice was good, the teachings were good,also - but the ripping away of belief was quite traumatic.  

 

After that, I was drugged and numbed for about 15 years.  So I went from being passionate about my spirituality - to afraid of it - to nothing.

 

Coming off the lithium has been like having a veil removed from my brain.  Only it's more of a cold, wet dishtowel covered in tar.    Gradually, slowly, as the tar and the wet towel are removed, I gain interest in Sacred things.

 

They are different from before, but they are Sacred, and I Gnosis them as such.  Now it is like the sacred connection between people, or the interconnectedness of nature, the cycles of water, earth, sky, the moments of fire.  The connection to Vision, and the ability to feel the visions and be blessed by them and grateful for them.

 

I will never be able to follow a flock again.  Is this a gift, or is it a hardship?  I envy those who can completely surrender their pain and suffering to another - whether that is a church or God or - ?  This surrender enables a person to achieve greater optimism, happiness, sense of belonging and tribe, and worthiness.  And this optimism can be reinforced by scripture, by congregation.

 

It's a known fact that a person with faith has better health, better well-being than a person without faith (even if that second person still considers themselves "spiritual").  That may be an impossibility for me now - not that I need proof of the senses or even of science, but that - so tentatively I approach that which was ripped away from me before.

 

It's like trusting a drunk not to do it again.

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dowdaller

We all have a soul and everything in the universe is connected through energy, whether Jesus Christ was the son of god I dont know for sure, but I am certain humans do not know it all, and sceince has not all the answers , as is illustrated with anti depressants drugs. I looked for answers from the medics they pointed me to mindfulness, which I thought was ironic.That is my opinion, plenty of others are available.

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wareagle82

My faith journey began while on Zoloft, and it is my faith that got me to take the risk of getting off it.  I feel more grounded, centered, peaceful, than I can ever remember since I began my walk with God.  I read Psalms each day, listen to podcasts of sermons, do Bible studies at my church, listen to faith-based music, and pray. 

 

The benefits are that I am totally convinced that God is with me on the withdrawal journey.  He will support me like no other person or source could ever do.  I will make it, not through my intelligence or work but instead by his power. 

 

I am faithful that he will also keep me from needing the meds in the future.  I will use my faith to keep the anxiety away.  I trust Him above all. 

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Pokeshaw

I replace repetitive intrusive thoughts with prayers and mantras. It has been a life saver. especially at work.

retraining the brain is slow but the more i do it the better it gets!

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RoxanneS

Unfortunately I'm not a believer but I went to church 3 times in the last 2 months.

 

It is difficult for me to believe when there is a God when so many innocent children suffer.

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nick1990

If anything - this process has pushed me further away from "faith" .  It has made me think more critically and logically about things.  I am a strongly agnostic. I don't know the answers - however i do believe religion is the downfall of our society. In saying that though i fully understand how people in WD turn to religion :)

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blazesboylan

was before due to 12 step program and seeing other people turn their lives around from a belief in a power greater than themselves.

 

Daily practice of prayer.  So many time my prayers have been "Fox Hole Prayers" due to WD and anxiety/depression.

 

You know "God please help."  Urgency.

 

I don't know necessarily what "God" or Higher Power" is but I choose to believe.

 

Hugs

 

Hi Nikki,

 

I have started praying to a Higher Power in the mornings and at night since I started going to AA meetings over a year ago. Prior to that I wasn't particularly religious. I would even have been quite cynical about religion. There are times also when I have my doubts still of course. However, I think that a belief in a Higher Power, whatever that happens to be for the individual, is really helpful.

 

I have always been attracted to Buddhism I suppose. I meditate frequently also. I am actually going on a meditation retreat soon! I was raised a Catholic by the way although I don't Catholicism now.

 

I hope that you are having a good weeekend!

 

Blazes.

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NaturalBorn

yeah actually haha, i remember to this day, during my first withdrawal from effexor, i was just going insane, i walked into a church and i felt like i was not welcome there, then this lady right on my side starts having a seizure, i totally freaked out. i thought there was something wrong with my soul or something haha. today all i do is praying. it does brings some hope to me

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JanCarol

 In the sense of having a guide which is well outside of myself.

 

That guide which is well outside myself, is inside myself, too.  And inside every living thing.  The yin inside the yang; the yang inside the yin.

 

Humbly, I am open to that guide outside myself - and I access "That" by going Inside my Self.  "That" accesses me by surrounding me in Experience.

 

In Witnessing (the meditation, not the proselytization) That which is greater than me, sees through me, sees what I see, feels what I feel.  In really open moments, that Witnessing can empathize with what others see, hear, and feel, too.  I am in awe of That which Creates me and the world around me in every moment I am Present.  

 

The hard part is Staying Present!  However, one of the games the Soul plays with the Bodymind - is hide and seek.  Soul hides, Bodymind seeks.  Joy!  We found each other again!  Joy!  Then Soul hides again.  When Bodymind survives the grief of this abandonment and remembers to look again - Joy of Union can be found again.

 

Life comes in Windows and Waves.  Connection comes in Windows and Waves.  Belonging, Union, Presence, all in Windows and Waves.

 

It's a mystery.

 

But I still cannot use the word "faith" other than the scientific belief in the repetition of fractals:  any cycle will repeat again, and beauty will be found not in this cycle, nor the next - but in the Whole of them all.

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Lakelander82

My parents are devoutly Catholic, my mother goes to Mass ever day for example but it never exactly rubbed off on me no matter how much I was indoctrinated with the dogmatic teachings of the Church. I'm a big fence sitter when it comes to religion - on one hand I hear studies of how religious people have better mental health than non believers, on the other hand I hear stories that say precisely the opposite. If you have come across the term "locus of control", belief in an omnipresent, omnipotent God means you have an external locus of control meaning you don't belief you have power or control over your own life/destiny and thus will suffer power mental health as a consequence.

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manymoretodays

 

 In the sense of having a guide which is well outside of myself.

 

That guide which is well outside myself, is inside myself, too.  And inside every living thing.  The yin inside the yang; the yang inside the yin.

 

Humbly, I am open to that guide outside myself - and I access "That" by going Inside my Self.  "That" accesses me by surrounding me in Experience.

 

In Witnessing (the meditation, not the proselytization) That which is greater than me, sees through me, sees what I see, feels what I feel.  In really open moments, that Witnessing can empathize with what others see, hear, and feel, too.  I am in awe of That which Creates me and the world around me in every moment I am Present.  

 

The hard part is Staying Present!  However, one of the games the Soul plays with the Bodymind - is hide and seek.  Soul hides, Bodymind seeks.  Joy!  We found each other again!  Joy!  Then Soul hides again.  When Bodymind survives the grief of this abandonment and remembers to look again - Joy of Union can be found again.

 

Life comes in Windows and Waves.  Connection comes in Windows and Waves.  Belonging, Union, Presence, all in Windows and Waves.

 

It's a mystery.

 

But I still cannot use the word "faith" other than the scientific belief in the repetition of fractals:  any cycle will repeat again, and beauty will be found not in this cycle, nor the next - but in the Whole of them all.

 

 

Nicely put JanCarol.  Inside/outside.  Waves and windows........

 

I have trouble with the word religion lately.  And all the guilt and shame I felt with various interpetations presented to me within religious/church settings.  Although....I felt the spirit from time to time in a church.  So......I don't know.......don't know much at all but yah........inner spirit......outer spirit.........feel more one and whole.......or maybe many.  Lol.  Many more??

 

"Beauty in the Whole of them all" .......... :)

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Idlehnds

I found god and Jesus right around when  I was put on the Lexapro and during the dark days before the medicine of not sleeping and suffering. Being in constant worry and panic attacks and scared to hell I was dying but god was the only thing I could hold on to and I would just cry thinking about anything spiritual.  Its like he was softening my heart.  

 

I have always had a issue with the base of Christianity and how Jesus died on the cross for my sins.  I still dont believe in that part, however I do believe he was resurrected and I believe in a a lot of India spiritual teachers and the great powers they have.  I believe that Jesus, Buddha, Krishna as well as a host of other Prophets, teachers or whatever you want to call them have achieved or are apart of something bigger.  I could spill into so much stuff but the book that really started it all for me was the "Autobiography of a Yogi" who bridged hinduism and christianity.  Its a amazing book!

 

It boggles my mind that people dont believe in "god".  Now maybe sometimes people get hung up in the fact that "god" represents a person in the sky, but he could be anything.  God to me is the creator, something that keeps my heart beating, the white light people see when they die, the coincidence of praying and then the next day randomly turning on a youtube video about Ram Dass and teaching a lesson of exactly what I was praying for, the entity that made me have anxiety and depression  to teach me how to grow my soul.  Now I might be the minority but something else is at play.  I havent settled for everything the bible teaches you but I use it as a tool as well as other teachings from other spiritual people.  

 

Books I recommend.

Ram Dass "Be here now" - Now I haven't read this yet but I have read other books from him which he emphasizes alot of his teaching from his Guru Baba Neem Karoli  who had some amazing powers that proves that there is something else to this world.  This is his first book I think coming back from India that I will read soon.  He has another book called "Miracles of Love" that just has stories of Baba Need Karoli.  Very special and dear to my heart.

 

Paramahansa Yogananda "The autobiography of a yogi"  I love this book and it was the first book that really showed me how to love Jesus and other religions.  I always thought of Jesus as just fictional character but reading this as well as his other books "Mans Eternal Quests", "The Divine Romance", and the "Yoga of Jesus" made me really love Jesus and Yogananda and made me understand the Yogi culture more.

 

I sit with Jesus, Yogananda and Baba Need Karoli (Maharaj-ji) and pray with them almost every night.  They are my spiritual guides and love.

 

-Peace-

 

 

 

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India

This is a really good question. In my darkest hours I prayed to the universe. I could only listen to healing meditations and read ( very slowly as we has affected my reading capacities) and read mind, body, soul articles. I really got why people have religious epiphanies in psychological. I feel like that level of desperationhas changed me. It clarified my desire for love and to clear all per ceived negativesfrom my life. This is also because I am awaiting medical results. I felt like I was fighting and am fighting for my life and then I just go directly into a spiritual way of thinking. I felt this affinity with all those who might be suffering, or about to die, or in terror, or fear, or pain. like a sort of collective conscious. it's like you go into another place and all else becomes superfluous.

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Ather

I am a Muslim and it is obligatory in Islam to pray 5 times a day,

1st just before dawn, 2nd at afternoon, 3rd just before evening, 4th at sunset, 5th at night.

Our prayer is not just a prayer but a complete exercise, it is called Salah,

First we stand, praising Almighty, Eyes open, looking down.

Then we bow down keeping our hands on the knees, 

And then go into Prostration, placing forehead on the ground (most relaxing part to me, where I simply feel completely surrendered, all my worries vanish at that time). 

In the end we take both our hands out in the air begging, asking for all our needs here and in the hereafter, praying for ourselves and for others.

I was praying while I was on the Zoloft and I am praying now during my withdrawal, the major difference is that I cannot hold my tears from flowing now, I hardly remember crying on the Zoloft ! 

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FarmGirlWorks
On 10/8/2018 at 2:36 AM, Ather said:

I am a Muslim and it is obligatory in Islam to pray 5 times a day,

1st just before dawn, 2nd at afternoon, 3rd just before evening, 4th at sunset, 5th at night.

Our prayer is not just a prayer but a complete exercise, it is called Salah,

First we stand, praising Almighty, Eyes open, looking down.

Then we bow down keeping our hands on the knees, 

And then go into Prostration, placing forehead on the ground (most relaxing part to me, where I simply feel completely surrendered, all my worries vanish at that time). 

In the end we take both our hands out in the air begging, asking for all our needs here and in the hereafter, praying for ourselves and for others.

I was praying while I was on the Zoloft and I am praying now during my withdrawal, the major difference is that I cannot hold my tears from flowing now, I hardly remember crying on the Zoloft ! 

Thank you for explaining the process -- beautiful. I hear you about not being able to cry on Zoloft-- a friend called me a "robot" once. I still haven't sobbed yet but at least  I can cry a little bit.

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Gridley

I was on a full complement of Lexapro and Imipramine when my parents died ten years apart.  I didn't cry for either, though I had loved them dearly.  

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JackieDecides

I don't think I cried for years and maybe decades on paxil and lexapro!

 

that's just not normal. 

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Ather
On 11/28/2018 at 12:03 AM, FarmGirlWorks said:

Thank you for explaining the process -- beautiful. I hear you about not being able to cry on Zoloft-- a friend called me a "robot" once. I still haven't sobbed yet but at least  I can cry a little bit.

 

Thanks :) 

And yes SSRIs make us "feel" very less, I was pretty harsh on my kids too specially my son, I couldn't feel how he was hurting inside, now I know that he is weak just like me, couldn't go to sleep easily, always worrying about small things, always stressed, I myself actually made him more stressed while I was on this drug.

 

I tell you an interesting fact, a few months before I left the Zoloft I started to pray "O Lord make me a friend of my son and not an enemy" and soon after I started to get bad symptoms taking the same Zoloft that I had taken for decades, I had to quit it by tapering, now I go hug him, talk to him when he is down, go calm him down when he is unable to sleep because there is an school exam the next day, previously I used to get angry at him that why was he still awake at 2 am and wouldn't say a word of love and care, even hit him every other day (I cry for that now) now I have seen that when I go sit on his bed and tell him not to worry about anything and that I love him and hug him he goes to sleep soon after :)

 

Zoloft made me what I never was.

 

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