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Barbarannamated

i am saddened too to think of doing permanent damage - i am hoping that new research and results that are coming out about neuroplasticity will help us to maybe over ride that damage. Everything that happens to us effects our brains - every memory has a chemical component to it that probably has an effect when it is recalled. Anxiety does the same. So, we can never go back to premedication state, but maybe we can change and sculpt so it is OK after all

 

Peggy,

 

Yes, absolutely. There are many ways to influence neurogenesis. I believe one of the main ones is "use it or lose it". The amount of research, reading and interacting we are all doing to find answers is USING IT. I was always an avid reader, but this material challenges my brain and mind in a way that I wouldnt be involved in had I not started into pharmapsychiatry and then realized what was happening. I learn new information from all of you every day. This experience has shaped my life in an unexpected way.

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Skyler

 

i am saddened too to think of doing permanent damage - i am hoping that new research and results that are coming out about neuroplasticity will help us to maybe over ride that damage. Everything that happens to us effects our brains - every memory has a chemical component to it that probably has an effect when it is recalled. Anxiety does the same. So, we can never go back to premedication state, but maybe we can change and sculpt so it is OK after all

 

Peggy,

 

Yes, absolutely. There are many ways to influence neurogenesis. I believe one of the main ones is "use it or lose it". The amount of research, reading and interacting we are all doing to find answers is USING IT. I was always an avid reader, but this material challenges my brain and mind in a way that I wouldnt be involved in had I not started into pharmapsychiatry and then realized what was happening. I learn new information from all of you every day. This experience has shaped my life in an unexpected way.

 

Hokay.. I may open a thread on this topic, but this is as good a place for now.. anyone have a recommend for brain memory games. They can seriously help, big time.. but I'm not sure which to order.

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Ip51

Agreed! Keeping engaged is key. I am a teacher for home schoolers so am constantly engaged mentally, researching ideas, creatively engaged constantly which I believe is keeping me going as a 60year old. Hopefully this activity will keep me from falling prey to antidepressant withdrawal brain dysfunction! I am guessing there is no viable proof that these drugs permanently disable our brains, no more or the same as everything that happens in life. Crap I did LSD as a teenager and was told that that did permanent brain damage. Maybe it did! Who knows? We can't worry about that now. We just have to live as well as we can til the end of our days! (-:

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Barbarannamated

Gary Small, MD, is a major proponent of brain training in aging. I'll try to find his info.

http://drgarysmall.com/

 

http://www.today.ucla.edu/portal/ut/081015_gary-small-ibrain.aspx

 

http://playwithyourmind.com/contact/ (unrelated)

 

Im a member of UCLA Institute on Aging aka Semel Institute. Interesting work.

 

I also believe that personal interaction/mental/emotional stimulation is critical. There's something about energy fields..

 

The brain is amazingly adaptable in a short period of time.

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Nikki

There is a website about brain plasticity...and what to do to keep the mind moving.

 

Anything that is challenging. Scrabble, Sudoko, Reading, Math, Yoga improves blood flow to the brain, as does Gingko.

 

Your going to laugh, but Words With Friends on Facebook, keeps my mind working :D

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Skyler

There is a website about brain plasticity...and what to do to keep the mind moving.

 

Anything that is challenging. Scrabble, Sudoko, Reading, Math, Yoga improves blood flow to the brain, as does Gingko.

 

Your going to laugh, but Words With Friends on Facebook, keeps my mind working :D

 

Hi Nikki and thanks.. there are brain games that target specific types of cognitive activities and they are really Bonza Good. I used one set, but the samples were so simple they bored me to tears even though they helped.. I was about to order the probably over priced ones that are recommended on Public Broadcasting, but then I found out they only go for 40 hours or so.. not sure if one just repeats them at that point.. who knows, maybe they are the best choice, but my guess is there are others.

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Ip51

I have been using some game aps forming words with six letters. That is cool. And of course, researching things for school on the Internet, books, etc.

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Skyler

I have been using some game aps forming words with six letters. That is cool. And of course, researching things for school on the Internet, books, etc.

 

Link please?? :o

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Ip51

One ap is called Jumbline 2, the other is called Word Warp. They are aps I downloaded from the I tunes store using my IPad.

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Nikki

Schuyler....

 

The Public Broadcasting Show is the one I was referring to. That was how I found there link.

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Rhiannon

Oh, PS, must confess I shelled out the bucks and bought some Posit Science brain training software. Like it so far. The Doidges book is good for getting ideas about what kinds of things actually force your brain to change and train. It has to be stuff you aren't already doing. It's kind of like exercising muscles. You can maintain them by doing what you already do, but if you want them to grow you have to challenge them beyond their current capacity.

 

(the Doidges book is The Brain That Changes Itself by Norman Doidges, a great read on the subject of neuroplasticity, well written, accessible without talking down, and written in a storytelling style that makes it fun to read.)

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Altostrata

I played with Posit Science a bit. It was kind of fun but didn't hold my interest. I'm no good with games.

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amg2012

I just did a scan on this thread and the subject of neuroplasticity. I read the Brain That Changes Itself with my book club a couple of years ago. Two words: Amazing. Encouraging.

 

Brain Games: I can reacommend Lumosity - an online site of brain games that is fun, challenging and extremely helpful. You challenge yourself with these games but can also see how you do comparartively to peers. I stopped in January 2011 when my overall brain profile had reached a high percentile. One reason I stopped is I found it rather addictive... :rolleyes: still, better time than watching TV or other inactive passtimes. Then, when I really needed it, I didn't use it because my brain was malfunctioning and I was afraid to. I was automatically renewed and did not realize it. The company has very kindly extended my subscription and recently I wrote that I was going through withdrawal form anti-depressants and could they accommodate my inactivity longer. I am to advise them when I feel I am able to get back on and they will see what they can do. Impressive company in this day and age, I'd say. So I am a subscriber on sort of a temporary hold basis.

 

I Googled and found this review... http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2400859,00.asp

 

I think this is money well spent!

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Skyler

Brain Games: I can reacommend Lumosity - an online site of brain games that is fun, challenging and extremely helpful. You challenge yourself with these games but can also see how you do comparartively to peers. I stopped in January 2011 when my overall brain profile had reached a high percentile.

 

I Googled and found this review... http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2400859,00.asp

 

I think this is money well spent!

 

Thanks, amg. Luminosity games really helped me, but I was not engaged by them, lost interest quickly.. There are some that have been advertised on PBS, they are more expensive than Luminosity and go for something like 40 hrs. I think they are the same as the Posit games Alto mentioned above. Any other recommendations before I shell out 300 clams for them?

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Altostrata

Same with me, about Lumosity. Lost interest.

 

Suggest Sudoku or ping pong or free online games rather than shelling out the clams.

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amg2012

Tapering:

 

I am wondering if tapering Fluoxetine by 1 mg per week is considered acceptable?

Although I have had an occasional day of extreme fatigue, I feel like I am doing much better; less is best for me it seems.

 

My thinking is that I should keep trying this weekly adjustment of 1 mg unless I have a very negative response.

 

Any opinions on this would be welcome.

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Skyler

One ap is called Jumbline 2, the other is called Word Warp. They are aps I downloaded from the I tunes store using my IPad.

 

 

I played with Posit Science a bit. It was kind of fun but didn't hold my interest. I'm no good with games.

 

Same with me, about Lumosity. Lost interest.

 

Suggest Sudoku or ping pong or free online games rather than shelling out the clams.

 

Thanks lp and Alto.. I will look into the freebies first. And you are right Alto, Posit could suffer the same fate as Luminosity with me. Wonder if Posit has a refund offer if one is not satisfied. I'll definitely check that out if I decide to look into that software further.

 

Other recommends anyone?? :) Games really do help, take it from a skeptic.

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Skyler

Tapering:

 

I am wondering if tapering Fluoxetine by 1 mg per week is considered acceptable?

Although I have had an occasional day of extreme fatigue, I feel like I am doing much better; less is best for me it seems.

 

My thinking is that I should keep trying this weekly adjustment of 1 mg unless I have a very negative response.

 

Any opinions on this would be welcome.

 

HI amj.. maybe repost this to your intro thread? It helps keep all your important info together. That's for questions specific to your taper, and more people read posts there. :)

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peggy

back to the games...

i play words with friends - i usually have about 15 games going at a time - if anyones to play pm me ur user name and i will add you - i am just an average player but i think it really helps.

 

I have also got the free suduko ap on my iphone - i play a few of those a day too - usually when i am watching TV in the ad breaks

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Barbarannamated

How does one start to play WWF? I thought some friends played it thru Facebook and I wont do apps on Facebook. I assume there's a separate method..?

 

Thanks.

B

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peggy

barb, it is an ap on your iphone (i think androids have it too) - you can down load a free version (has ads on it) or pay 1.99 for the ad free version (which is what i did).. you can play with facebook friends, but you don't have to

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Skyler

What is WWF. I'm open to finding out how to Scrabble with someone (love that game), but I've never played games through Facebook.

 

Barb, what is WWF? Maybe World Wildlife Federation? :)

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Barbarannamated

WWF = Words with Friends. I just made that up. Sorry!

It IS World Wildlife Federation, too ;)

 

I just downloaded it. Thanks!

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Skyler

I knew I'd 'misplaced' the brain thread somewhere! Posted Image

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Ip51

Thanks for moving the games, I want to get back to talking about slow tapers.I am concerned, but get it that this withdrawal can take a long time. Years at this rate! .5 mg every month or so. That means it will take about 10months more or less to get down 1mg. I am at 7.2 mg. It took months to get here from7.5 mg. I wish I could go faster but I can't! Really sucks but at least I am withdrawing. I guess we will be pen pals for a long time at these rates!

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Nadia

I tried Lumosity too and was not engaged by their games, but I played Who Has the Biggest Brain on ipod/Facebook for a long time, and also one called Brain Buddies.

 

Thanks for the Doidges book recommendation!

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jr1985

This seems quite good - https://www.superbetter.com

 

It's a "game" designed to help improve your "resilience" by giving you different tasks to do - physical, mental, emotional and spiritual.

 

Here's a TED video of the creator

I really recommend you watch it, it's excellent and I think it relates to us in withdrawal.

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starlitegirlx

Oh this is a good thread. I wonder if video games count? I've been playing them a lot lately.

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tezza

Oh this is a good thread. I wonder if video games count? I've been playing them a lot lately.

 

 

If it holds your attention and you focus on it, it should help! :)

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Barbarannamated

Just started Mind Games free version. Downloaded on Android. Some are much note challenging than others. Not certain how long it will hold my interest but like that it shows progress.

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Finn

I'm thinking of trying Luminosity to see if it will help get my brain working faster again. My brain feels sluggish and dumb, which is so far from what it was pre-depression and drugs.

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cymbaltawithdrawal5600

Feeling pretty crappy today I remembered seeing this topic. I did a few of the games from 'the happy neuron' at the AARP site ahd was really surprised. I did well on the memory ones but the math one floored me. A total blank. Now my brain hurts. Something different to do while I am waiting to get well........

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BentBuddha

Contrary to popular opinion, PlayStation type games are very good for the brain and neuroplasticity. I've been meaning to buy one but it's been too low on my 'to do' list when it comes to my budget.

 

I have been wanting to since i saw a TED talk on YouTube on the subject

 

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Steelhead

I would like to ask everyone what kind of computer games you have used to occupy or distract yourselfs.

I have played thousands of games of Bejeweled. During acute withdrawal every turn of my head gave me brain zaps or I got very dizzy. Some time just moving my eyes triggered these things and I could even look at my phone even. By playing this matching game it made me focus on only my phone screen. I felt it also made my brain work if even on a basic level trying to match three colored jewels. I didn't usually want to think about much during withdrawl so picking up my phone and playing this game; it kept many a bad thought away. The game isn't to flashy and the sound isn't to overwhelming.

I have also recently started playing Lumosity. This program is a little more challenging at times and sometimes frustrating. There are multiple tasks to complete and typically not in a set pattern. Bejeweled is always the same game every time. I personally think it is over rated. It does make your brain work though.

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cymbaltawithdrawal5600

Oh gosh, this post is right up my alley.

I used to be very smart and interested in a lot of things computer related. Now I cannot seem to get interested in anything and because of WD I cannot sit still to read or watch even the simplest of TV.

 

 

Endless games of 2 suit Spider solitaire for months. Now I have Jumbline 2 (jumble words game). 'Find Differences' and Tetris. Blendoku. (All are android). Getting lots better at jumble words. First few days after I started using it behind my forehead burned really bad but I couldn't quit. Has stopped now.

 

Seems to be all I can do at home, distraction. Can't just sit here, can't do crafts. Some days I am really bummed at what my life is like. But I am not sitting in the corner drooling on myself. And I have been able to some easy computer fixing when I am asked to. I guess we have to do what we have to do. Rest of the time I hang out here.

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