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Lexy

Ive been having muscle pain and feel like my knees get locked is this a wd symptom?

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johnson

I've had severe muscle tension develop in my shoulders and neck area about 9 months ago. I am 21 months off since I took my last pill.

I think it might be withdrawal related. I went to the doctor got x-rays, went to physio, chiro, accu, massage, changed my mattress, pillows, sleeping positions,

tried daily stretching, exercise, then rest for extended periods of time. Tried tiger balm, A535. Heating pad. Also tried changing my posture when sitting down and not keeping my head extended forward

Nothing really helps.

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historygal

I've developed neck muscle tightness which is sending chronic pain up my head.I know this is due to WD but actually it appeared 5 months into my WD. I am only 8 months so far so its very early days in WD. However, it is either mimicing myofascia pain syndrome or is as anxiety, excercise and food all excacerbate it. I too went to a physio and after 5 sessions he couldn't do anything for me. Any one else affected by anxiety and food as well as not being able to excercise.

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Petunia

I've also noticed neck and shoulder tightness, resulting in head pain/headaches.  I've had this to some degree for the last week or so.  Physical activity does seem to make it worse, which is annoying because I've started to feel a little bit better in general, but I still can't do much. I found that light stretching for a few minutes under a warm shower helps a little.

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Addax

I'm confident the tightness is part of withdrawal as much as it is a side effect of some of the meds.

 

Jaw clenching has always been an issue for me while on Prozac. I think might me Akathisia. It subsided for a bit during withdrawal but would reappear when I hit a wave. Intense exercise would bring it out in my shoulders and neck and I would have to remind my self to relax my shoulders, otherwise I would just hold them in a shrugging position. The muscle tightness and tensing would actually make me tired, and definitely would result in a headache.

 

Something else: Bruxism (involuntary clenching of the jaw) has been linked to SSRI use. Bruxism is essentially muscle tension and I believe there has been some discussion about a possible relationship with the dopamine system. I also remember reading about a potential relationship between inhibition of the dopaminergic system and Akathisia.

 

My understanding is that SSRIs interfere with the dopamine system, so I guess experiencing tightness and tension in our muscles (or Akathisia) either while taking or withdrawing from our meds might be something we should almost expect.

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historygal

I have read lots about muscle tightness and other people having various muscles that have been affected either when off the meds or when they have been off the meds. I am in an excruciating amount of pain though as the muscle tightens and refers pain to my head. I am just concerned because  I know I shouldnt really self diagnose myself but I feel it is copying the condition of myofascia pain syndrome as it doesn't just hurt when exercising. if I am anxious the pain increases and if I eat any form of sugary foods the pain also increases. Does muscle tightness go in time? or is it permanent. has anyone heard anything or does anyone know anything. any help as its really this symptom for me thats causing me most distress, sorry if I sound worried its because im in early stages of WD 

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ikam

I had tingling pain in my arms, hands, and back from withdrawal for about 1.5 years. It finally went away with acupuncture.

 

Many, many people here have had pain of various kinds as a withdrawal symptom.

 

In the withdrawal literature (see http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/325-papers-on-diagnosis-of-antidepressant-withdrawal-syndrome/), you will find this kind of pain under "paresthesia" or "myalgia." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myalgia

 

 

Myalgia, or muscle pain, is a symptom of many diseases and disorders. The most common causes are the overuse or over-stretching of a muscle or group of muscles.

....

Withdrawal syndrome from certain drugs

Sudden cessation of high-dose corticosteroids, opioids, barbiturates, benzodiazepines, caffeine or alcohol can induce myalgia in many respects.

 

 

Have you tried magnesium glycinate? That can help muscle pain.

 

It is possible your pain is due to something else. If it started while you were taking a psychiatric drug, it could be a lingering adverse effect of the drug. If it started after discontinuation, that's an indicator it's a withdrawal symptom.

 

Even if it's fibromyalgia, another poorly understood syndrome, you can recover from it.

Hi, I am looking for the symptom I have had for some time now. It has been more pronounced today (i am on 4th day of my decrease from escitalopram). I have had paresthesia in both hands. It is a strange symptom and I don't really know how to judge its intensity?

It has started after increasing escitaploram, then stopped after decreasing, and restarted again after further decrease, but not straight away...

Is this a normal withdrawal symptom and I just need to be more patient and gentle with myself?

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NowhereMan76

I've definitely had muscle pain from w/d. The earliest onset was in my lower back about 5 months after my last dose. Luckily that was short lived, only a week.

 

Since then I get achy after most physical activity, like mowing and weed eating. I had a second round of lower back pain another time, also lasted about a week.

 

My latest muscle pain has been in my shoulder/neck/arm. It's definitely in part because I work on computers all day, and I'm probably on my smart phone too much. This achiness has been on-going for the last 6 months (which would be from 23 months off until 29 months off the meds). The doctor diagnosed it as tendonitis.

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luv2knit

Yes, definitely have had the aches and pains. Lately have had intermittent muscle spasms in one small area of my lower back. Had knee problems for two years that were caused by a steroid inhaler I was put on temporarily for asthma. These issues had finally almost completely gone, and have now come back--in one knee. Everything is one-sided with me! One knee, one arm, and one side of my back--strange!

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ikam

Yeah, strange...doctors were never able to find any underlying problems...i had this strange throbbing pain in my left knee for around half a year during the night. I had mri and other investigations...

I was put on lots of painkillers...

 

For me my phisical pain was always my way back to meds, including tricyclic antidepressants, that is why I want so much to figure out some way of dealing with these misterious pains...

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cymbaltawithdrawal5600

In early protracted wd, I had a tight band around my chest and a weird pain in both of my calves whenever I went for a walk (as well as miscellaneous paresthesias). Chalked them up to wd after careful observation did not reveal anything needing a doctor's attention was going on.

 

I kept walking. They went away.

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luv2knit

CW, I had that tight band a time or two as well. For me, it was reminiscent of a condition I have that at one time left me paralyzed in all four limbs, so it scared the daylights out of me. I soon realized it was withdrawal, though. Still scary!

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cymbaltawithdrawal5600

What was/is the condition? If it is in your thread you can just link to it so we don't pull this thread off course.

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luv2knit

CW, it's Transverse Myelitis. Almost 16 years ago. Totally unrelated to WD.

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UnfoldingSky

I have no idea if this is related to withdrawal but seeing as though withdrawal seems to come with endless, um, perks, I am wondering if this is one of them.  I started a herb recently which so far seems to have helped me with some issues but maybe it's responsible for this...

 

The past few days I am finding that if I sit with my leg bent for a while when later I go to stand up or stretch it out it's excruciatingly painful.  The first time it happened it was so bad I almost screamed.

 

I am tired of doctors and don't want to go see one for this as for all I know it may clear up.

 

Is this related to withdrawal?

I feel like I am elderly before my time...

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DLB

Ok, I get this EXACT thing whenever I started OR withdrew to fast and now it is happening this past three weeks at the end of this LONG permanent taper off paxil. Every time I reinstated my knees got better so I know it is a withdrawal problem. I have never been off this crap long enough to see if it goes away but im sure it will. When was your last dose???

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DLB

Oh, I forgot to ask, is the pain at the top of the knee? not the sides or below the kneecap? This is where I get it.

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WiggleIt

My knee probs started as soon as I went on meds. Now I know it was a side effect, but I am too early in wd to see improvement.

 

If it can be a side effect, it can prob be a wd symptom

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bruno2016

I had many occasions after I went cold turkey where I had joint issues and muscles issues. With time and some supplements (good fish oil and turmeric) I saw good improvements. Joint issues are common in my experience. 

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UnfoldingSky

Ok, I get this EXACT thing whenever I started OR withdrew to fast and now it is happening this past three weeks at the end of this LONG permanent taper off paxil. Every time I reinstated my knees got better so I know it is a withdrawal problem. I have never been off this crap long enough to see if it goes away but im sure it will. When was your last dose???

 

 

My last dose of an AD was years ago.  HOWEVER, this problem is new, I don't want this to sound like it's been going on since then as it only started very recently.  It may well be unrelated or only partly related to what drugs did to me, as we do have a health condition in my family which I suppose could account for it.

I haven't been diagnosed with it though. 

 

I realized that just before this cropped up I was doing a bit of exercise and did a few knee bends...If this is what's caused it it's pretty ridiculous.  I am badly out of shape because of fatigue which definitely connects to the drugs, but I woudn't think doing something so minimal would all of a sudden make my joints so painful.

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UnfoldingSky

Oh, I forgot to ask, is the pain at the top of the knee? not the sides or below the kneecap? This is where I get it.

 

It feels it's more towards the top of my kneecap.

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UnfoldingSky

My knee probs started as soon as I went on meds. Now I know it was a side effect, but I am too early in wd to see improvement.

 

If it can be a side effect, it can prob be a wd symptom

 

I am sorry this started for you right off the bat.  Forgive me, my memory is bad today as I'm running on no sleep but did you have pain too with the knee issues? 

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UnfoldingSky

I had many occasions after I went cold turkey where I had joint issues and muscles issues. With time and some supplements (good fish oil and turmeric) I saw good improvements. Joint issues are common in my experience. 

 

Hi Zepplin, thanks for responding, I am glad to hear you improved and glad this can improve too.  I can't tolerate fish oil (I think anyway, haven't tried it in years) but will up my salmon intake, which I was meaning to do anyway.  How do you take the turmeric, are you cooking with it? 

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WiggleIt

 

My knee probs started as soon as I went on meds. Now I know it was a side effect, but I am too early in wd to see improvement.

 

If it can be a side effect, it can prob be a wd symptom

 

I am sorry this started for you right off the bat.  Forgive me, my memory is bad today as I'm running on no sleep but did you have pain too with the knee issues? 

 

 

Hey USky,

 

Yes, definite pain with knee issues.  Feels like it surrounds the whole knee cap.  I just can't believe hindsight and how 20/20 it is.  SO many years of knee pain that SUDDENLY started on meds and I can't believe that none of the doctors or physical therapists at Kaiser figured it out, not even after I didn't improve with physical therapy.  

 

I wish I knew more about this so I could elucidate on your pain, but I truly am such a newbie that I don't know if I can say for sure whether your pain is a wd symptom, or unrelated. All I can do is give you solidarity and let you know that I feel your pain, literally.  

 

Have you tried ice or heat to see if either helps?  Or resting with your legs elevated?  

 

My mom has knee trouble (unrelated to meds; she just works too much around the house) and she feels better when she rests and stays off it for a while...

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UnfoldingSky

Thanks for the solidarity WI, it's so appreciated.  Right back at you. :)

 

I haven't tried putting anything on it as of yet as it does come and go on its own and strangely I don't feel like it would respond to ice or heat.  Maybe I am wrong.  It happens mostly if I just sit with my knee bent for a while.  When I straighten it it can be agonizing, and almost nonfunctional.  Rest can also be a problem, sometimes in bed when it's been straight for a while it won't work well either.

 

This came on all of a sudden and I can't quite fathom why.

 

I am starting to wonder if maybe my vit. D hasn't gone low (it was once in the past) and maybe that's got something to do with it.  Yesterday? I had deep bone pain in my legs which was the tip-off last time I had low D (got it verified by a test).  I didn't get much sun this past summer and stopped taking vitamin D a long time ago as I was taking a lot to compensate for the loss and eventually felt it was not needed. 

 

I really don't want to go to the doctor to have this tested and since I am not sensitive to D anymore (that I know of) I thought maybe I'd resume a tiny amount and see if that doesn't clear the problem up. So this is my plan for the time being...Just need to get a low dose vit. D.

 

I have a skin problem, also reasonably new, that I just read might be helped by vit. D...crossing my fingers this all ties together to some easy to treat problem...I'm tired of having to figure out my health problems myself. 

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ikam

I think that WD can retrigger some previous conditions, as it increases fight flight response in the body, contributing to inflamation...

As on emotional level (neuro emotions), same on body level...i think...

At least I have pain in places that were injuired before, but also strange pains that wander through the body...some of them mimic phisical conditions...the doctors respond with further medication, stronger and stronger...but with my pelvic pain it was phisio, exercice regime and walking that helped...unfortunatelly, because of pain I took some meds...

So, I have decided to see phisiotherapist today...

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UnfoldingSky

My update--it's still here.

 

Vitamin D seems to be helping with energy a little bit but not this problem.  It seems to vary a bit, it's worse on some days than others and I can't figure out why.

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WiggleIt

Sky, I am so bummed that you are having this problem, but I also really have faith that it will resolve for you. You have overcome so many things that I just have to believe these pains will resolve themselves.

 

If my mom or I figure out anything that helps us with our knee pain, I promise I will let you know immediately. I just can't believe that I am only 35 years old and I can barely walk up or down the stairs! It amazes me that I used to run for 3 miles at a time! And that I used to lift weights and do squats at the gym!

 

But you have overcome so much, Sky, already that I have to believe your body will allow itself to let go of this pain, too.

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ikam

I wonder how to distinguish any phisical pain if it is WD or some underlying problem? Apart from muscle pain I have had some intense joint pain in my hands. How do I know if it is arthritis or WD?

It feels real! Painful...

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cymbaltawithdrawal5600

Symptoms are all magnified in withdrawal. What would you do differently if it was diagnosed as arthritis? Arthritis is inflammation of the joints and only your doctor can say for sure. Unfortunately we cannot make that diagnosis here. In my case, I am sure 8 years of meds did me no good. At my age I suspect I have arthritis too. I cannot bend down to pick up anything off the floor anymore, my spine has become so stiff, but I could sure do much more before I got off the meds. Arthritis meds come with their own set of problems and I'll pass on them.

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ikam

I don't want any meds for this. I was just wondering, as I get so many unexplained pains. My hands is a new area and I connect this to paresthesia I had there.

Phisotherapy helps me the most...

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cymbaltawithdrawal5600

I did not mean to imply you were wanting meds. In fact, the helpfulness of physiotherapy gives you a hint of sorts. My mother, who is 90+, knits or crochets every day and has for years, has arthritis pains in her hands but has very little of the joint deformation usually seen with arthritis. A lot of the stuff in wd, all you can do is wonder because it is not readily diagnosable.

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ikam

Yeah, I am aware of this now, but in the past I always responded to any pain as to illness and took lots of meds...

 

My mother has arthritis, but she has also been on coctail of meds...

I don't want to end up like this...

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DLB

So I'm reading this and wondering if during withdrawal is it normal for muscles/ tendons to get real sore easily from straining that would never cause it previously??

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NowhereMan76

That has been normal for me DLB.

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