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Just one of the very many potentially deadly psych meds

 

When this issue is covered in the media they always fail to mention that psych drugs tax the bodies in multiple ways that can cause early death. Impacting cardiovascular health in numerous ways and causing serious and numerous and also potentially deadly metabolic issues…this omission is criminal and frankly ridiculous.
 

The below article came to my inbox today via an advocacy email group I’m part of. I responded with the above brief comments.
 

It starts:

A new study says mental illness might actually take years off a person’s life.

 

According to research from the 
, mental illness may cut life expectancy by seven to 24 years — more than smoking a pack of cigarettes a day. (
)

 

 


Of course these are not new results. There have now been numerous studies showing that folks who get labeled mentally ill and are treated in the psychiatric system die early. Those facts are never made explicit of course.
 

Rather than learning how to deeply and profoundly heal our bodies, minds and spirits, the mental illness system doles out drugs that kill the motivation for exercise and other lifestyle changes that can help us heal. Everything we do and think and eat and ingest matters and this is not something that is understood in the psych system. If we are not given the means to heal, we won’t. That doesn’t mean it’s not possible. I’ve communicated with 1000s now that have learned how to do it. 
 

See: Our brains on exercise and Drug free recovery from depression, anxiety, bipolar, schizophrenia, etc…
 

Here are some articles on the subject:
 


And it’s possible to learn to get healthy again:

And: To my friends and readers who still take psych drugs


Also: Please do not attempt to discontinue psych drugs without first very carefully educating yourself on the risks involved so that you might minimize the chances of developing grave iatrogenic illness if you decide to withdraw: Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal and Protracted Withdrawal Syndrome Round-Up

 

original post: http://wp.me/p5nnb-b0j

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withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.
 

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All studies showing a relationship between physical illness and mental conditions fail to show which was the cause and which was the effect. Could someone feeling low because he or she is ill?

 

Few address the debilitating effects of long-term psychiatric drugs or polypharmacy overall.

 

These types of statements are part of the ongoing hysteria about the dangers to society of mental illness -- a ball that pharma started rolling to sell drugs.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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I think of this every time I hear their ads diabetes high cholesterol... both related to ssri snri drugs... add more dangerous drugs to "treat" these two problems we have a domino effect. 

There are many more thyroid... liver... I sure the list is long but that is all I have off the top of my head right now. 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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It's clear the cause is the medication. Whitaker discusses this as I recall. In countries where they don't drug the patients the outcomes are much much better, maybe even normal (i don't recall). It is clearly the toxic chemicals taken everyday ravaging the body.

"Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast
I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past
But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free
I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me.

Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there
Everybody's got to move somewhere
Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow
Things should start to get interesting right about now."

- Zimmerman

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When I was in the psych hospital the medications were very en vogue but I had a feeling that the seeds of a question mark were being planted. I wonder how this is today.

 

Also years ago I volunteered at NAMI satelite called the Clubhouse in my town and big conflict between the Clubhouse staff (who were kids really, not very sophisticated about these matters) and Clubhouse members was that some members started to question the efficacy of their treatment programs. The members would discuss amongst themselves ideas for going off the meds, this was 2011 and Whittaker book and alt psych recovery talk was easy to find by now online.

 

Anyway the staff took a hard "you need your insulin" approach and they thought it was criminally dangerous for the members to be encouraging each other to stop taking meds. This was 2011.

 

I still get the Clubhouse newsletter and I've noticed a loosening in the attitude of the staff towards the drugs. Now there very much a "we are opening to finding the right solution for each unique member" kind of talk. I think it's been interesting and encouraging. The main thing I take away is that nobody wants to be EVIL that's the main thing. The folks working at the Clubhoue are MAINLY working there because they feel good about themselves for having a self-actualizing job that helps people (rather than working a cube or whatever) and they have NO INTEREST in doing anything to the patients that will hurt the patients because that goes against the whole reason they are working there -- to feel good about themsevles for doing the good work.

 

The takeaway is that there aren't really Nurse Ratchets working at these pro-drug advocacy groups like NAMI, etc. The changes will come pretty quickly I think in this arena even considering the funding. The staffers want the members/clients to do well because they work with them and care about them but also bc their self estemm is in the helping of others, so it's a pretty good setup where the staffers incentives/priorities are in line with the clients' best interest. So I am hopeful for peer communites come to fully acknowledge the dangers of the meds, and the uselessness frankly.

 

It is the hospitals, any place overseen by MDs where resistance to the idea that taking toxic poisons everyday shortens your lifespan will be the strongest because the medications are so intertwined with the MDs status and it is how they differentiate themselves from the (lesser minded) psychologists and people who work at NAMI. Doctors are obviously quite ego centric on average.

 

The main thing is that the idea that the drugs do harm is not very hard to accept except for doctors so I expect that most people with common sense could come to accept that taking chemicals for hundreds of consecutive weeks could have SOME long run effect. it is insane that doctors are hostile to that, but understandable considering the status-driven and ego-infected features of this group as I have just described/

"Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast
I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past
But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free
I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me.

Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there
Everybody's got to move somewhere
Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow
Things should start to get interesting right about now."

- Zimmerman

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It's clear the cause is the medication. Whitaker discusses this as I recall. In countries where they don't drug the patients the outcomes are much much better, maybe even normal (i don't recall). It is clearly the toxic chemicals taken everyday ravaging the body.

Whitaker said 14 years less life for those of us drugged. 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Should all that be true and if I were to die at the same age as my mother it is time I packed up my stuff and bought some term life insurance for my burial. I am exactly 25 years younger than she was when she passed.  I wish I could afford some burial insurance. 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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you're getting healthy now...we don't need to go there as we heal...or at least I suggest you try not to! :)  

Everything Matters: Beyond Meds 

https://beyondmeds.com/

withdrawn from a cocktail of 6 psychiatric drugs that included every class of psych drug.
 

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It also doesn't help that "regular" doctors do not take patients with an MI label very seriously.   Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to minimize the issue of the meds as I agree with everyone's points about them.   But the fact that having an MI label causes a person to get inferior care doesn't help either.

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It also doesn't help that "regular" doctors do not take patients with an MI label very seriously.   Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to minimize the issue of the meds as I agree with everyone's points about them.   But the fact that having an MI label causes a person to get inferior care doesn't help either.

Yes, good point. The attitude that "patients don't really know much, doctor is God" is part of general medical culture anyway, and then when you add on top of that the credibility-erasing fact of having ever taken a psych drug, it's hard to get good care.

Started on Prozac and Xanax in 1992 for PTSD after an assault. One drug led to more, the usual story. Got sicker and sicker, but believed I needed the drugs for my "underlying disease". Long story...lost everything. Life savings, home, physical and mental health, relationships, friendships, ability to work, everything. Amitryptiline, Prozac, bupropion, buspirone, flurazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, Paxil, citalopram, lamotrigine, gabapentin...probably more I've forgotten. 

Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010.  Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea.

 

Feb 15 2010:  300 mg Neurontin  200 Lamictal   10 Celexa      0.65 Xanax   and 5 mg Ambien 

Feb 10 2014:   62 Lamictal    1.1 Celexa         0.135 Xanax    1.8 Valium

Feb 10 2015:   50 Lamictal      0.875 Celexa    0.11 Xanax      1.5 Valium

Feb 15 2016:   47.5 Lamictal   0.75 Celexa      0.0875 Xanax    1.42 Valium    

2/12/20             12                       0.045               0.007                   1 

May 2021            7                       0.01                  0.0037                1

Feb 2022            6                      0!!!                     0.00167               0.98                2.5 mg Ambien

Oct 2022       4.5 mg Lamictal    (off Celexa, off Xanax)   0.95 Valium    Ambien, 1/4 to 1/2 of a 5 mg tablet 

 

I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion.

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