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Petunia

I've been through the same thing schizor, night after night, waking from strange dreams and terrifying nightmares.  Some mornings I would wake up and not remember details, but still feel like I had been through a traumatic night.  It gets better, they slow down and go away after a while. 

 

Try and think of it like your mind is trying to sort out and release some traumatic experiences or memories which you have inside.  When they are all gone, you will be free from them.  Sometimes dreams and nightmares are like clues, showing us things about ourselves and our past we are not aware of.  I once had a nightmare where my ex-partner was trying to kill me, it felt very real.  When we had been together, I had thought it was a fairly good relationship, but the dream started me thinking about everything I wasn't seeing or admitting at the time.  It was a very frightening nightmare, but now I can see how it helped me to look at how I was being harmed in that relationship, in ways I wasn't seeing.  So what I'm saying is that even though the dream was painful, it helped me to experience and release parts of an old relationship which I was holding onto, because I didn't know they were there.  Its been healing and has helped me let go on a deeper level.

 

Are you taking any supplements?   I know you tried fish oil, but did you try magnesium?  It has a calming effect and can improve sleep quality.  Some people also find that taurine is calming.  I sleep better when I take taurine at night, it seems to have a mentally calming effect on me, perhaps that would help to reduce the dreams.

 

You weren't on these drugs long and its only been 5 months since you went CT.  You will recover, but try and have patience, at 5 months off after CT from two drugs, I would expect a lot of people would still have some significant withdrawal symptoms.

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andy

Andy I am not having any theraphy, just dont see a point in it.I just feel something very strange in my forehead and the problem is chemical imbalance which these drug created .Every morning when I wake up it feels like i have been raped in my sleep.

counselling helps on many levels it improves your positive thinking and can help you relax and make sense of your situation.You should try it ,you have nothing to lose

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Muddles

I have the strange sensations in the frontal lobe. Not sure what it is.

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schizor

I sleep normal about 7 hours.Never had these dreams beofre the meds and they are random not a specific dream repeating over and over again.


Will try taurine Petu.

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Altostrata

schizor, do your best to think on calming things before bed. Have you tried meditation? This calms the nervous system.

 

Forgive me, I forgot -- are you taking fish oil and magnesium?

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/36-king-of-supplements-omega-3-fatty-acids-fish-oil/
http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1300-magnesium-natures-calcium-channel-blocker/
 

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schizor

I did heavy chi gong before the accident happend.

yes I am taking both now Alostrata

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schizor

cant take this **** anymore

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dalsaan

What are your symptoms now? Have you tried chi gong recently?

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schizor

Its like i dont exist, no matter what i do,who i meet, who i hang out with, do chi gong doesnt matter what i do I always feel this ******* dull feeling.My memories feel fake and everything else does. Light seems too bright and sound too loud.

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schizor

I dont want to say this but I prefer being in a permanent unconsciousness rather then exist like a ghost zombie

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Muddles

Do you think we could be comatised and woken uo in a couple of years when we may be healed further?

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schizor

I dont think this is possible muddles.It seems more like a sci-fi.This whole zombie state is like a sci-fi it just doesnt feel real, i never thought such existance without emotions is possible

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Muddles

I hear ya! I keeo thinking I'm in a big nightmare or something...trying to turn back time constantly. Hold on friend - you will get there.

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schizor

so many months without improvement its obvious that these drugs cause brain damage and i dont really think im going to get used to this

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Muddles

Early days yet matey...you were not on them for long...keeo the faith.

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Petunia

You don't have to get used to it Schizor because you will recover.  Its only been 6 months after 2 cold turkeys, you will get some improvement or a small window eventually, everyone does. It took me a long time before I got my first window.  It happened suddenly one afternoon after about 8 months.  For an afternoon and evening I felt like there was nothing wrong with me, but then the next day I was back to being in withdrawal. But from that point, I knew I was able to feel normal.  I realized that the old me was still in here somewhere.

 

Your healing will come, until then, just keep doing the best you can to take care of yourself, day by day.  These drugs cause changes, but not permanent damage. 

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schizor

I dont know if this is improvement but i feel so sad and i cry at night

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crazykatie

Hi schizor!

 

I'm sorry you're having such a rough period. I wish there was some magic cure out there for us. My depression has come back too. It's the time of year that I get most depressed too. It's so tough. Is there anything that you can try to do to keep your mind off it? I don't know about you but I forgot what even I enjoyed doing pre-meds. I have been cooking again. Well I just started again last night bc the last few weeks have been really rough!! It just SUCKS!!

Can you bring yourself to just sit outside for like 15 min during the day? You can stay in your pj's n not even shower. I find the fresh air does help a bit. I wish it was better for you as I am quitting a ap too. I also have other meds I hope to get off but for now I just have to stick with one.

I wish you quite better evening.

Katie

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jctunes

Hi Schizor

I joined this forum after reading through all the posts in your post. I was hospitalized in October 2013. My diagnosis was brief reactive psychosis. Although I am pretty sure that it was induced by weed, but by the time I was hospitalized the weed was already out of my system. (Stopped smoking Sept 8 2013, and was hospitalized on 27th Oct 2013). I havent smoked weed since Sept 8 2013. The doctor forced me to take an injection of Invegga Sustenna, and additionaly I was taking Zyprexa and Diapine every night. My dosage of the medicine was gradually reduced. I stopped taking Zyprexa and Diapine on March 4th 2014. And my last injection of Invegga Sustenna was on May 24th 2014. I listened to my doctor when it came to taking the medication. I felt through all the things you are going through. There were times when I would just stare at the ceiling wishing that I could redo my life from an earlier point in time, and this is what I would normally be thinking about most of the time. I enjoyed sleeping and lucid dreaming instead of being awake. I still do now, I sleep for a good 12-14 hours everyday still. Now I can feel pleasure though. Things are not as depressing as they were. I enjoy eating as you do, and also watching tv shows.. Although I have gained 28kgs (61 pounds) in the time since I started the medication last year. For 2 months from June 16th 2014 to the end of August I was exercising everyday and I hated it and exercising did not feel as good as it used to, since the end of August until now I have not been exercising. I plan to return to it soon though because I am fed up from being overweight. I have been socializing a little now and things feels better then it used to. Hopefully you will start feeling better too, just give it some time, and try exercising.
 

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Petunia

Hi Schizor,

If you are able to cry now, and were not able to before, I would say that's an improvement.  Being able to feel sadness is also a healthy improvement.  Let the feelings come up and then let them go.  Crying can help to release trapped emotions. 

 

* jctunes, please would you start a topic for yourself in introductions to share you story, so that we can get to know you and provide support.

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schizor

Did some research on neuroplasticity and I now think that theres is a possibility of some of my personality to recover

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schizor

I am no longer completely emotionally flat and can experience some sort of excitement and sadnes

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WinningThrough

Yay!!!!

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schizor

It was nothing like it used to be and I still dont have a personality.What I am now is 2% of my real self.

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WinningThrough

So sorry. I am glad there is a small improvement. I hope it continues to improve for you.

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dalsaan

I understand its no where near the amount of improvement you are looking for but it does demonstrate that improvement is possible for you.   That's a big thing.  Try not to invest all your energy into what changes you haven't got. 

 

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George93

Hey, I cant even imagine what you re going through but dont loose hope,our brains are great tools and they have outstanding healing potentials as neuroplasticity proves.. Well I wanted to ask you a question? Do you happen to have any significant cognitive impairment along with your anhedonia? I used to take zyprexa for 3 months and i am dealing with some cognitive issues right now

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schizor

I dont know about congnitive issues but I have poor coordination and everything I do is much slower then I did before.If you ask about cognitive issues like recognizing people or having bad memory, no I dont have that. I have good memory like I had before 

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schizor

Neuroplasticity proves that in most cases their is 50/50 procent of full recovery... Some dont recover at all, partially recover and some recover fully.I guess it depends on which part of the brain the demage has been done or i dont know its just my guess

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alex

Neuroplasticity proves that in most cases their is 50/50 procent of full recovery... Some dont recover at all, partially recover and some recover fully.I guess it depends on which part of the brain the demage has been done or i dont know its just my guess

 

I am a 61 yrs man and I can assure you that I am in the healing group.

Which group do you think you belong to?

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crazykatie

Hi Schizor

 

Take every slight progress happily and positively. Don't underestimate yourself and the improvements you have had. Starting to have feelings again is just the beginning. It will all come back. Keep your head up and keep positive. I know easier said than done. I just think that we tend to focus on the still existing wd symptoms and forget where we have come from. Baby steps

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schizor

 

Neuroplasticity proves that in most cases their is 50/50 procent of full recovery... Some dont recover at all, partially recover and some recover fully.I guess it depends on which part of the brain the demage has been done or i dont know its just my guess

 

I am a 61 yrs man and I can assure you that I am in the healing group.

Which group do you think you belong to?

 

I think I will have partial recovery over a period of time. Maybe in like 1-2 years... but I dont think I will ever be the person I was before but maybe I will capable of mantaining a job and living a somewhat normal life

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alex

 

 

Neuroplasticity proves that in most cases their is 50/50 procent of full recovery... Some dont recover at all, partially recover and some recover fully.I guess it depends on which part of the brain the demage has been done or i dont know its just my guess

 

I am a 61 yrs man and I can assure you that I am in the healing group.

Which group do you think you belong to?

 

I think I will have partial recovery over a period of time. Maybe in like 1-2 years... but I dont think I will ever be the person I was before but maybe I will capable of mantaining a job and living a somewhat normal life

 

 

"I don't think I will ever be the person I was before...." you got that right!! you will be better!trust me.

Despite the horrible suffering,the terrible experience of wd,I can tell you I am happy for being alive, and getting a second chance.

I DON'T want to be the old Alex, that took me to 150mg of Effexor for 4+ years...NOOO!!!

We will never be the same person Schizor,because of this ordeal, we wil be purified,renewed,reborn...BETTER!!

You are young and you will remember my words soon, despite your fear and negative thoughts that plague you mind right now.

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alex

 

 

 

Neuroplasticity proves that in most cases their is 50/50 procent of full recovery... Some dont recover at all, partially recover and some recover fully.I guess it depends on which part of the brain the demage has been done or i dont know its just my guess

 

I am a 61 yrs man and I can assure you that I am in the healing group.

Which group do you think you belong to?

 

I think I will have partial recovery over a period of time. Maybe in like 1-2 years... but I dont think I will ever be the person I was before but maybe I will capable of mantaining a job and living a somewhat normal life

 

 

"I don't think I will ever be the person I was before...." you got that right!! you will be better!trust me.

Despite the horrible suffering,the terrible experience of wd,I can tell you I am happy for being alive, and getting a second chance.

I DON'T want to be the old Alex, that took me to 150mg of Effexor for 4+ years...NOOO!!!

We will never be the same person Schizor,because of this ordeal, we wil be purified,renewed,reborn...BETTER!! and, DRUG FREE!!

You are young and you will remember my words soon, despite your fear and negative thoughts that plague you mind right now.

 

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schizor

 

 

 

Neuroplasticity proves that in most cases their is 50/50 procent of full recovery... Some dont recover at all, partially recover and some recover fully.I guess it depends on which part of the brain the demage has been done or i dont know its just my guess

 

I am a 61 yrs man and I can assure you that I am in the healing group.

Which group do you think you belong to?

 

I think I will have partial recovery over a period of time. Maybe in like 1-2 years... but I dont think I will ever be the person I was before but maybe I will capable of mantaining a job and living a somewhat normal life

 

 

"I don't think I will ever be the person I was before...." you got that right!! you will be better!trust me.

Despite the horrible suffering,the terrible experience of wd,I can tell you I am happy for being alive, and getting a second chance.

I DON'T want to be the old Alex, that took me to 150mg of Effexor for 4+ years...NOOO!!!

We will never be the same person Schizor,because of this ordeal, we wil be purified,renewed,reborn...BETTER!!

You are young and you will remember my words soon, despite your fear and negative thoughts that plague you mind right now.

 

 

Thank you for this encouregment, but I dont think that I can be better then I was before, I was able to experience deep emotions and I enjoyed pretty much every day. I learned by my mistakes and loved to experience life.Now my emotions are maye like 3//100 of what their were.  Also my personality was as it was, unique as every personality, you know sense of humour, the little things that make you feel good...the things that make you feel compasion.. now its gone. Now there is this voidness. Every unique part of my personality is erased.Every experience is moving us towards progress, but i have non-experience, even though I can experience physical pain I am unable to experience life.This is bad because, if you cant experience life in my opinion you cant progress and gain more understanding and love towards the world around us.I cant see how this non-experience will make me feel purified,renewed, reborn or better. I dont want to be renewed or reborn, just want my old personality back and its unique characteristics. I think the concept that  this non-experience and emptiness Im having right will make me better,reborn and purified in the future is just as funny as this picture The+only+advice+my+dad+ever+gave+me_1f6c

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schizor

But we are different people Alex and our experience is also different, I thank you so much for giving me hope

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