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I had a night mare last night of the same quality and horrific content as an Ad induced one... gruesome would be the word... the sort of thing that pushes newbies to take a drug... or go off a drug. Specifically the sort that stays with one long after waking. 

 

I have not had a dream in at least 3 years maybe 4 maybe long no dream I recall... none. 

I am wondering if anyone who has been off 6+ years here or is late into withdrawal has had this happen... what does it mean if anything I realize it is only one dream and may not mean anything.  Yet whenever I get something back that has been missing something normal tho this was not normal it was a dream I recalled and I have not recalled any in many years. 

 

Is this a step towards healing or is this a slip backwards. There have been other changes of late I am not sure about... surely I can't be having this sort of wave this far out could I?  

I realize there are not many people regularly talking on here that are this long off but I know there are some lurking who have been off even longer I hope you come across this post and add your experience. 

 

I have been thru this enough to know it is related or I sincerely feel it is... I just don't see how it fits just now... perhaps pain pills I am taking are affecting my neurotransmitters and causing this. Something is up help me out here if you can.  Thanks a lot and peace to you. 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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I am taking tylenol # 3 which has codeine 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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I would hazard a guess the drug is to blame, in combo with a sensitive nervous system.  Then again, I am eight years out from my SSRI reaction and three drug-free, and I just had a series of nightmares, more mundane ones, and I normally don't have nightmares.  Like you I wondered if the drugs were responsible (I'm not on anything currently), and I still am not sure.  There was nothing going on around me to explain why I'd be having them.  But they did clear up.

 

Oh and I don't know if this affects you badly but in the acute withdrawal phase I found hot weather, and barometric pressure changes often made my overall symptoms worse.  I had a one day bout of restlessness I link to the drugs just recently and the weather was partly to blame.  Didn't think it would come back so late out but it didn't stay either.  So you can get symptoms cropping up later on, but it seems they will die down if there's nothing antagonizing them.  Hope that helps, peaceful dreams to you.

I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions.

 

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Thanks I have been on pain killers since Dec 2012 car accident.  I wonder why now and not a year ago. I take the least I can get away with.  I do react to barometric pressure.  I am feeling something major has shifted bit it just the bones in my neck or something else I am not sure yet.  I am not freaked out by the dream like I would have been if I did not have these past experiences under my belt.... still there is a bit of worry in what will follow as I have had much worse things go down when awake when the dreams were present in the past.  Trying not to get stuck on it but it is on my mind.  I should know better very few things follow a solid pattern in withdrawal but I have found a few things that go together.  Horrid gruesome dreams for me go with serious hallucinations but in the past they usually are after the hallucination ...or altered reality experience.  It has been literally years since anything like it has happened... it is a bit disconcerting.  Be sure I will report what follows if anything.  It may be a fluke bug in the system I just feel it isn't.

thanks for the comment... you may of course be right it may be the drug... I seem to be reacting differently to the pain med when I do take it I tend to sleep which was never the case in the recent past.

Holding final thoughts till I see what is to follow this.

peace to you US 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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I would hazard a guess the drug is to blame, in combo with a sensitive nervous system.  Then again, I am eight years out from my SSRI reaction and three drug-free, and I just had a series of nightmares, more mundane ones, and I normally don't have nightmares.  Like you I wondered if the drugs were responsible (I'm not on anything currently), and I still am not sure.  There was nothing going on around me to explain why I'd be having them.  But they did clear up.

 

Oh and I don't know if this affects you badly but in the acute withdrawal phase I found hot weather, and barometric pressure changes often made my overall symptoms worse.  I had a one day bout of restlessness I link to the drugs just recently and the weather was partly to blame.  Didn't think it would come back so late out but it didn't stay either.  So you can get symptoms cropping up later on, but it seems they will die down if there's nothing antagonizing them.  Hope that helps, peaceful dreams to you.

I am curious do you dream  normally other than this series of dreams since you have been drug free?   I simply do not dream of anything or if i do I never recall any of them mundane or otherwise till today.

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Thanks I have been on pain killers since Dec 2012 car accident.  I wonder why now and not a year ago. I take the least I can get away with.  I do react to barometric pressure.  I am feeling something major has shifted bit it just the bones in my neck or something else I am not sure yet.  I am not freaked out by the dream like I would have been if I did not have these past experiences under my belt.... still there is a bit of worry in what will follow as I have had much worse things go down when awake when the dreams were present in the past.  Trying not to get stuck on it but it is on my mind.  I should know better very few things follow a solid pattern in withdrawal but I have found a few things that go together.  Horrid gruesome dreams for me go with serious hallucinations but in the past they usually are after the hallucination ...or altered reality experience.  It has been literally years since anything like it has happened... it is a bit disconcerting.  Be sure I will report what follows if anything.  It may be a fluke bug in the system I just feel it isn't.

thanks for the comment... you may of course be right it may be the drug... I seem to be reacting differently to the pain med when I do take it I tend to sleep which was never the case in the recent past.

Holding final thoughts till I see what is to follow this.

peace to you US 

 

How frequently have you been taking the pain killers?  It's hard to say if they are to blame or not, as we know with other things like supplements/herbs they can suddenly cease to be effective, but if you took them here and there and had no issues for several years it seems a bit odd they'd do that now.  Maybe it's just a one off thing.  I wouldn't worry that you will get hallucinations again too, I used to have certain other issues with restlessness, like parasthesias for instance, and that didn't come around again this time.  I know it's a bit mind boggling that symptoms can crop up again, I was certainly surprised by the restlessness, but it did go away. I have no crystal ball but I would think the nightmares will leave for you too.  In the meantime take care of yourself. 

I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions.

 

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I would hazard a guess the drug is to blame, in combo with a sensitive nervous system.  Then again, I am eight years out from my SSRI reaction and three drug-free, and I just had a series of nightmares, more mundane ones, and I normally don't have nightmares.  Like you I wondered if the drugs were responsible (I'm not on anything currently), and I still am not sure.  There was nothing going on around me to explain why I'd be having them.  But they did clear up.

 

Oh and I don't know if this affects you badly but in the acute withdrawal phase I found hot weather, and barometric pressure changes often made my overall symptoms worse.  I had a one day bout of restlessness I link to the drugs just recently and the weather was partly to blame.  Didn't think it would come back so late out but it didn't stay either.  So you can get symptoms cropping up later on, but it seems they will die down if there's nothing antagonizing them.  Hope that helps, peaceful dreams to you.

I am curious do you dream  normally other than this series of dreams since you have been drug free?   I simply do not dream of anything or if i do I never recall any of them mundane or otherwise till today.

 

 

I don't know if I would say normally, as my dreams can be fairly fantastic, but I didn't lose my dreaming ability or recall during withdrawal.  Do you recall anything at all about them, even slivers of dreams?

 

Alternatively maybe the nightmare is indicative of some form of healing, you never know.  A friend of mine has health problems unrelated to drugs that make it so that he can't recall dreams almost at all, so whatever he can recall we see as a sign of healing, even if it's upsetting or mundane.  His recall has increased a bit over the years and his health condition in some respects has improved a lot. 

I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions.

 

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No I don't have any recall.  This may be a bit the same I have no internal eye either... I can't visualize anything ever... not a picture not a map.  I have had this problem with maps starting when I was still on Effexor... I was lost more than I wasn't lost.  I have no minds eye... if I think of even my own town I can't see in my head the streets from here to the store.  I use to be great at this and was once tested beyond normal with spacial relations leading to a career path I took long ago... now nothing.  I wonder if this in some way relates to not being able to recall dreams.  It is just an idea.  

I can park a car and struggle for a long time when I need to find it I think this has improved some but not a lot.  Visual memory is impaired and it relates to a lot of things you would not expect like where did I put a certain thing... I can spend so much time looking for a misplaced object now it is a bit time waster.  I have learned to keep things where they belong because of this and can get quite upset when others I live with constantly move items I need. 

When it happens a lot I will give up and get bummed out deciding not to bother with it so much... as it is a pain in the ass anyway to start with... but I always come back online as I need this to function period. Which means I am always the one putting things away and picking things up... I kind of hate it... because I get emotionally out of whack when I am in a bad way and don't have the extra energy to attend to this regime... of order.  It takes extra time to get things in order after an illness especially... a lot of it lately has fallen by the wayside as I have been sick so much.  Now it is to me like looking at a mountain I need to climb and I can't seem to make the first step. Seems a bit senseless as lately I just start to make a dent in it and I am sick again. Bit like being buried alive to me. Yet I know nobody else is going to do it. 

I need order to make sense of things ...others I live with don't. I can't afford to live on my own. I know that would be the simple answer move.  

This bit has crippled my art work completely I am not even the same person but somebody different ok now I am whining so I will just stop as it serves no constructive purpose. 

Along with the dream I had sweating and burning hands and feet... the runs.  Maybe I am just getting sick hard to tell. 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Hi btdt, are you the same btdt who used to post on Topix forums? I am now 4+ years off and did not dream for the first 3 years, now I only dream during the day if I have a nap. I hope you are still improving albeit slowly, if you are the one and same btdt I think. Chrissy.

Nov 2007 - Feb 2010 prozac 20mg

Feb 2010 - April 2010 prozac 40mg

 

Cold Turkey Prozac April 2010 due to severe cramps/bleeding

 

Severe withdrawal symptoms thereafter and protracted withdrawal continuing.

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No I don't have any recall.  This may be a bit the same I have no internal eye either... I can't visualize anything ever... not a picture not a map.  I have had this problem with maps starting when I was still on Effexor... I was lost more than I wasn't lost.  I have no minds eye... if I think of even my own town I can't see in my head the streets from here to the store.  I use to be great at this and was once tested beyond normal with spacial relations leading to a career path I took long ago... now nothing.  I wonder if this in some way relates to not being able to recall dreams.  It is just an idea.  

I can park a car and struggle for a long time when I need to find it I think this has improved some but not a lot.  Visual memory is impaired and it relates to a lot of things you would not expect like where did I put a certain thing... I can spend so much time looking for a misplaced object now it is a bit time waster.  I have learned to keep things where they belong because of this and can get quite upset when others I live with constantly move items I need. 

When it happens a lot I will give up and get bummed out deciding not to bother with it so much... as it is a pain in the ass anyway to start with... but I always come back online as I need this to function period. Which means I am always the one putting things away and picking things up... I kind of hate it... because I get emotionally out of whack when I am in a bad way and don't have the extra energy to attend to this regime... of order.  It takes extra time to get things in order after an illness especially... a lot of it lately has fallen by the wayside as I have been sick so much.  Now it is to me like looking at a mountain I need to climb and I can't seem to make the first step. Seems a bit senseless as lately I just start to make a dent in it and I am sick again. Bit like being buried alive to me. Yet I know nobody else is going to do it. 

I need order to make sense of things ...others I live with don't. I can't afford to live on my own. I know that would be the simple answer move.  

This bit has crippled my art work completely I am not even the same person but somebody different ok now I am whining so I will just stop as it serves no constructive purpose. 

Along with the dream I had sweating and burning hands and feet... the runs.  Maybe I am just getting sick hard to tell. 

 

I was going to say if you want to recall dreams the way to do it is to write down what little you do recall, but if you don't have any recall I don't know what you do.  I found writing down the dreams I could remember helped my recall a lot.

 

I also have the trouble with visualizing.  It's improved a little, at its worst it was awful, I had no imagination at all basically, but even now with some recovery it could be better.  I can't do maps in my head either, and in acute withdrawal could get lost in places I had known my whole life.  That part has improved some.  I'm also far less inclined to get panicked about being lost too, so there is that.  New places though scare me as I worry about my ability to navigate them if they are busy--not that with fatigue I go anywhere...

 

I also don't like it when people move things as my recall isn't great, and it wastes a lot of time for me too.  Hard to get across to people if they don't have the same issue, though I do know some who do from unrelated health conditions.  At least they get it.

 

Hope you are feeling better--did you figure out if you were coming down with something?   

I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions.

 

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Hi btdt, are you the same btdt who used to post on Topix forums? I am now 4+ years off and did not dream for the first 3 years, now I only dream during the day if I have a nap. I hope you are still improving albeit slowly, if you are the one and same btdt I think. Chrissy.

Yes I am that one.. Hi Chrissy... wish I could recall the name... my memory sucks some I know some I don't so sorry. 

Tell me a bit see if I clue in... 

on that forum I actually changed my name a bit part way thru to been there done... being a smart ass... 

So if this is normal.. how long were you drugged Chrissy?... I want to see if I can draw anything from your timeline.

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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No I don't have any recall.  This may be a bit the same I have no internal eye either... I can't visualize anything ever... not a picture not a map.  I have had this problem with maps starting when I was still on Effexor... I was lost more than I wasn't lost.  I have no minds eye... if I think of even my own town I can't see in my head the streets from here to the store.  I use to be great at this and was once tested beyond normal with spacial relations leading to a career path I took long ago... now nothing.  I wonder if this in some way relates to not being able to recall dreams.  It is just an idea.  

I can park a car and struggle for a long time when I need to find it I think this has improved some but not a lot.  Visual memory is impaired and it relates to a lot of things you would not expect like where did I put a certain thing... I can spend so much time looking for a misplaced object now it is a bit time waster.  I have learned to keep things where they belong because of this and can get quite upset when others I live with constantly move items I need. 

When it happens a lot I will give up and get bummed out deciding not to bother with it so much... as it is a pain in the ass anyway to start with... but I always come back online as I need this to function period. Which means I am always the one putting things away and picking things up... I kind of hate it... because I get emotionally out of whack when I am in a bad way and don't have the extra energy to attend to this regime... of order.  It takes extra time to get things in order after an illness especially... a lot of it lately has fallen by the wayside as I have been sick so much.  Now it is to me like looking at a mountain I need to climb and I can't seem to make the first step. Seems a bit senseless as lately I just start to make a dent in it and I am sick again. Bit like being buried alive to me. Yet I know nobody else is going to do it. 

I need order to make sense of things ...others I live with don't. I can't afford to live on my own. I know that would be the simple answer move.  

This bit has crippled my art work completely I am not even the same person but somebody different ok now I am whining so I will just stop as it serves no constructive purpose. 

Along with the dream I had sweating and burning hands and feet... the runs.  Maybe I am just getting sick hard to tell. 

 

I was going to say if you want to recall dreams the way to do it is to write down what little you do recall, but if you don't have any recall I don't know what you do.  I found writing down the dreams I could remember helped my recall a lot.

 

I also have the trouble with visualizing.  It's improved a little, at its worst it was awful, I had no imagination at all basically, but even now with some recovery it could be better.  I can't do maps in my head either, and in acute withdrawal could get lost in places I had known my whole life.  That part has improved some.  I'm also far less inclined to get panicked about being lost too, so there is that.  New places though scare me as I worry about my ability to navigate them if they are busy--not that with fatigue I go anywhere...

 

I also don't like it when people move things as my recall isn't great, and it wastes a lot of time for me too.  Hard to get across to people if they don't have the same issue, though I do know some who do from unrelated health conditions.  At least they get it.

 

Hope you are feeling better--did you figure out if you were coming down with something?   

 

I am not sure I want to recall my dreams if they are going to be bloody but if it means my brain is healing and recalling them would help it heal I would do it for that reason... blood or not. I had a long day yesterday and spent most of today sleeping it really knocked me out.  I am not sure yet if I am unwell or just still recovering from the last 4 months of antibiotics  ect... it has been a lot.  I travelled to see a doc yesterday 7 hours from leaving home to getting back ...too much for me plus recanting the entire story no less than 3 times... too much. Not sure it was worth it but I do trust him on some things and he told me that getting a numb foot or leg with a head ache can be a plain old migraine that was worth the trip right there as I was thinking I had finally reached last of my luck.  For some reason my left arm no longer wants to do as I ask it aches and won't go... not sure about sick yet guess it depends on what sick means... am I functional not in a physical way not really.  Planning on hanging home a bit and resting up.  No more dreams of any kind it is rather comforting to know I am not the only one getting lost... no I did not drive myself yesterday but I use to do that drive and wish I could again...no car either so no chance of that. 

I need to sleep now 

peace to you. 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Hi btdt, yes i know the memory is a still a Big problem for me, but there are a few.names of people that i hopefully will never forget, the people who helped furnish me with the truth about these drugs and the horrors they are responsible for; that truth is hard to hear, especially in early withdrawal hell; but that truth was essential in my abstinence from these drugs and to my healing journey that will eventually lead me to a knowledgable position when it comes to educating people i care about and keeping them safe. I arrived at the topix forum after already suffering for months, without a clue as to what was happening, no docs knew (or would admit to knowing) and i just knew it was as a result of the Prozac i has stopped taking (cold turkey) after being told by gp that this was how to stop! I had been taking them approx 2 and a half years and stopped at that particular time due to a severe stomach bleed. I.find it hard to identify the worst symptom, as they were all equally horrendous and torturous in their own right but together are unexplainable! The inability to feel any emotion is still there, over 4years now, still have taste, smell, touch and hearing probs. Still have memory, concentration problems, but these are still improving and i hope to still improve as the signs are good that the brain can heal after such damage. At least now i dont have the terribile insomnia, severe pain in my head, rara, neck. I no longer have the psychological torture that was prominant for the first few years, or the complete body numbness. There are however countless other things still ti heal and i am still hopeful of further healing.

Nov 2007 - Feb 2010 prozac 20mg

Feb 2010 - April 2010 prozac 40mg

 

Cold Turkey Prozac April 2010 due to severe cramps/bleeding

 

Severe withdrawal symptoms thereafter and protracted withdrawal continuing.

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I am really sorry Chrissy I am racking my brain I just am not getting it right now it may click in later.  Sorry you have to be here but since you do welcome.  There are a lot of people here and new ones every day.  Alto who owns the site has been thru this too and has a lot of science articles if you can get your head around them... I have good days and bad where there is concerned.  

I had a stomach bleed too... glad that is behind me.  I wonder if having that particular side effect sets us up for any other common symptoms I guess time may tell as we go along. Has something to do with the platelets may be in Altos notes I have not read them all if I did I would not recall all they said just now anyway.  If your still looking for that sort of thing...reasons for symptoms I have been doing this long enough I have looked all those major ones up already. Read it posted it on the topix site all gone did you know topix was gone it is so weird.  

Whatever you symptoms are now I am sure there is somebody here who has the same one of the perks of having a large active site and there is a section called self care with ideas of how to deal with many of them check it out you may find some tips there.  

I am glad you found this site... I wish you peace 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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I didn't know topix site was offline? I had forgotten all about it once i stopped getting notifications from it. I have been a member here for many years but found accessing my account at surviving antidepressants too difficult, i couldnt navigate it at all then. I found pp was easier at the time.

Nov 2007 - Feb 2010 prozac 20mg

Feb 2010 - April 2010 prozac 40mg

 

Cold Turkey Prozac April 2010 due to severe cramps/bleeding

 

Severe withdrawal symptoms thereafter and protracted withdrawal continuing.

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I would hazard a guess the drug is to blame, in combo with a sensitive nervous system.  Then again, I am eight years out from my SSRI reaction and three drug-free, and I just had a series of nightmares, more mundane ones, and I normally don't have nightmares.  Like you I wondered if the drugs were responsible (I'm not on anything currently), and I still am not sure.  There was nothing going on around me to explain why I'd be having them.  But they did clear up.

 

Oh and I don't know if this affects you badly but in the acute withdrawal phase I found hot weather, and barometric pressure changes often made my overall symptoms worse.  I had a one day bout of restlessness I link to the drugs just recently and the weather was partly to blame.  Didn't think it would come back so late out but it didn't stay either.  So you can get symptoms cropping up later on, but it seems they will die down if there's nothing antagonizing them.  Hope that helps, peaceful dreams to you.

I am badly affected by weather... forgot to mention that.  I get worse when barometric pressure changes I dread it and have spent so many days in the house with the air on.  Things have changed with other people in the house I live in and it has become a huge fight to have the air one.  I don't have a car anymore... that use to be my escape I would go to my car and crank the air... what really gets on my nanny is I paid to have the air put in this place...and I don't own it and I have been told no way am I to get a window model to cook my own room ... but I think this is my last year without such a model... as I am not doing this anymore. Sorry to get to the whining part of this but seriously the lack of respect that comes with this gets me down.. when I think of how I have changed in the eyes of people it is infuriating to me.. at the same time I can't blame them how many years of watching person be a mess can anyone take... this is now a rant... I guess.  Sorry.  

I am thinking the drugs may be part of it yet don't feel I can do without them I am taking tylenol #3 it has codeine and have been on antibiotics.. a lot 7 courses in the last 4 months... so 

Tylenol #3

Amoxacillin x 4 courses of 500mg 

it worked the first couple of times and lasted a bit... but the last time I barely touched it... but I had what we thought was the cause cured a bad tooth removed... same day had more symptoms which who know could have come from the freezing... I reacted to lidocaine in the past...very badly and for a long time... so now use marcaine something like that can't get it in my head just now... soon as I left the dentist I had odd feeling in my r shoulder then pain in the evening then severe pain there at night ..in the morning could not walk my back hurt so bad... made an apt with my doc for Thurs... tooth pulled Monday... Wed I felt ok thought I had all this beat... same day had to see a kidney specialist due to High bp... my bp was low...110 she said it was likely high due to the tooth... now it was fine.  She did a urnine test my urine smelled horrible but I felt well... I wonder if the low bp was a drug reaction I have not had that low a bp since long before quitting effexor. 

I missed the doc apt I had made about the back pain as I could not get up I woke very sick... went to the clinic area over my kidney was swollen and blood in my urine I was put on 

 

Macrobid..

Woke the next day vomiting ...all day felt dreadful now Friday

Sat I woke feeling fine with an ongoing pain I had in rib area that preventing me from bending since the car accident in Dec 2012 GONE!!! completely gone... I vaccumed a tiny room I felt so well and was immediately ill again went to bed... woke in the night with a swollen face went to emrg...by the time I got in my face was not swollen any longer they just sent me home saying finish the Macrobid ....so I did that. I got worse after the drug was gone horrid back leg foot pain...back to hosp

Cephalex this time 500mg another pain med I did not take..my Tylenol 3 use went way up... I know but I could not stand it....seemed to get better then it came back

Cefuroxime 500mg..

Still taking Tylenol #3 it has been a few wks I am not great have a new issue with my left arm hurting it does not want to move sometimes it will just not move but it hurts I use heat and other things... my T3 use has only been at doses suggested on rare occasions.  generally I take half dose use to be 1//4 of a pill... now 1/2 a pill as needed... 

Before this infection I averaged a pill a day as I would not take it until bed time but use other things for pain .. but I know how not sleeping tears me down I need to sleep or I get crazy... so at night I would take 1/2 tablet ... I guess the other half I was averaging were for times I had to do something in the day and would not have made it due to pain... I averaged 30 pills a month before this infection. While ill that increased to the point I was always at the clinic asking for another bottle... I had doc give me refills on codeine who would lecture me about being on antibiotics and not give me another antibiotic even tho I knew I was getting sick again...as a result I would have to get really ill before I could get an antibitotic... 

 

So yes so many drugs

 

I keep trying to get on top of this it has been a long time and I have in my head this idea I feel like I am in a wave... 6+ years out... and it feels unfair. It very easily could be a drug reaction setting it off from the freezing the antbiotics or pain meds... or I am confused now... I just don't know... Not sure what this new arm thing is I have never had an issue with my left arm so maybe it due ... I don't know. I have mentioned it to my doc.. she was not too worried about thought muscle I was hoping that too now it is about 3 wks it is not improving not yet. 

 

Feels like a bit of putting it in one place not sure if it is helping or not.. I am open to suggestions... at the same time... I know nobody really knows so no pressure there. 

peace all

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Just now I have the pain back in the rib area not bad tho nothing like before... the arm... foot hurts but not as bad as before either... I have good energy and am trying get on top of things in the house as it depresses me when it is out of sorts...doing well with that good head way.  I have other symptoms like sinus filling and coughing a bit that makes me wonder if it is starting again...some back pain but that may well be normal for this new me... as it seems constant. 

I am going to make more head way and do some self care. 

peace all

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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No I don't have any recall.  This may be a bit the same I have no internal eye either... I can't visualize anything ever... not a picture not a map.  I have had this problem with maps starting when I was still on Effexor... I was lost more than I wasn't lost.  I have no minds eye... if I think of even my own town I can't see in my head the streets from here to the store.  I use to be great at this and was once tested beyond normal with spacial relations leading to a career path I took long ago... now nothing.  I wonder if this in some way relates to not being able to recall dreams.  It is just an idea.  

I can park a car and struggle for a long time when I need to find it I think this has improved some but not a lot.  Visual memory is impaired and it relates to a lot of things you would not expect like where did I put a certain thing... I can spend so much time looking for a misplaced object now it is a bit time waster.  I have learned to keep things where they belong because of this and can get quite upset when others I live with constantly move items I need. 

When it happens a lot I will give up and get bummed out deciding not to bother with it so much... as it is a pain in the ass anyway to start with... but I always come back online as I need this to function period. Which means I am always the one putting things away and picking things up... I kind of hate it... because I get emotionally out of whack when I am in a bad way and don't have the extra energy to attend to this regime... of order.  It takes extra time to get things in order after an illness especially... a lot of it lately has fallen by the wayside as I have been sick so much.  Now it is to me like looking at a mountain I need to climb and I can't seem to make the first step. Seems a bit senseless as lately I just start to make a dent in it and I am sick again. Bit like being buried alive to me. Yet I know nobody else is going to do it. 

I need order to make sense of things ...others I live with don't. I can't afford to live on my own. I know that would be the simple answer move.  

This bit has crippled my art work completely I am not even the same person but somebody different ok now I am whining so I will just stop as it serves no constructive purpose. 

Along with the dream I had sweating and burning hands and feet... the runs.  Maybe I am just getting sick hard to tell. 

 

I was going to say if you want to recall dreams the way to do it is to write down what little you do recall, but if you don't have any recall I don't know what you do.  I found writing down the dreams I could remember helped my recall a lot.

 

I also have the trouble with visualizing.  It's improved a little, at its worst it was awful, I had no imagination at all basically, but even now with some recovery it could be better.  I can't do maps in my head either, and in acute withdrawal could get lost in places I had known my whole life.  That part has improved some.  I'm also far less inclined to get panicked about being lost too, so there is that.  New places though scare me as I worry about my ability to navigate them if they are busy--not that with fatigue I go anywhere...

 

I also don't like it when people move things as my recall isn't great, and it wastes a lot of time for me too.  Hard to get across to people if they don't have the same issue, though I do know some who do from unrelated health conditions.  At least they get it.

 

Hope you are feeling better--did you figure out if you were coming down with something?   

 

I am not sure I want to recall my dreams if they are going to be bloody but if it means my brain is healing and recalling them would help it heal I would do it for that reason... blood or not. I had a long day yesterday and spent most of today sleeping it really knocked me out.  I am not sure yet if I am unwell or just still recovering from the last 4 months of antibiotics  ect... it has been a lot.  I travelled to see a doc yesterday 7 hours from leaving home to getting back ...too much for me plus recanting the entire story no less than 3 times... too much. Not sure it was worth it but I do trust him on some things and he told me that getting a numb foot or leg with a head ache can be a plain old migraine that was worth the trip right there as I was thinking I had finally reached last of my luck.  For some reason my left arm no longer wants to do as I ask it aches and won't go... not sure about sick yet guess it depends on what sick means... am I functional not in a physical way not really.  Planning on hanging home a bit and resting up.  No more dreams of any kind it is rather comforting to know I am not the only one getting lost... no I did not drive myself yesterday but I use to do that drive and wish I could again...no car either so no chance of that. 

I need to sleep now 

peace to you. 

 

 

I can't say that I blame you for not wanting to recall your dreams if they are like that.  However, assuming the drug isn't to blame, I think that the fact that you are recalling them may well be a sign of healing.  Crossing my fingers for you. 

 

Seven hours to see a doctor is so far to go while in withdrawal.  Glad that the visit was helpful though. 

 

Re getting lost, I forgot to mention a friend of mine who also was injured by ADs and other drugs had the same problem too.  Difficulty visualizing as well.  So I guess it's more common than we might realize.

 

Hope you're feeling better today.

I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions.

 

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It was not that far I had a ride too... it was just waiting getting bumped and a misunderstanding in communication... made for a long wait long apt.  7 hours to do anything in withdrawal is long especially sleep if I ever sleep 7 hours all at once when I am not sick.. that would be a very good sign. 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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It was not that far I had a ride too... it was just waiting getting bumped and a misunderstanding in communication... made for a long wait long apt.  7 hours to do anything in withdrawal is long especially sleep if I ever sleep 7 hours all at once when I am not sick.. that would be a very good sign. 

 

Oh, okay. I thought that was a ways to go to see a doctor, though a friend has to travel that distance unfortunately. 

 

I just read your other posts too, and it sounds like there's a lot going on for you.  I hope you can sort out what's causing what. 

I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions.

 

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I have been thru something like this before health wise we never got the bottom of it ever... laid around suffered for a very long time... I don't have much hope this time will be any different.  

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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I have a few likely drug-induced issues like that, where you see the doctor, they find nothing, it clears up, then it comes back, and round and round you go.  Not fun.

I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions.

 

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