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coldturkmama
1 hour ago, direstraits said:

one good thing about getting older...don't have to deal w/ periods anymore.:)

take care,ds

 

Lol lucky!!! 

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direstraits

just thought I would observe being off paxil for 3 1/2 years today....unfortunately not having a good day and slept lousy last night...I'm having some better days but never feel close to what I was before this.

 

still worried I won't recover from this,especially after all this time....feel so lost sometimes and hopeless.

 

any encouragement appreciated....xx

 

 

 

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bubble

Although you are not feeling well I would still like to congratulate you on everything you have endured so far.

 

When we are having a bad day things can seem gloomy but having, as you say, better days is a sure sign of recovery happening. Thank you for the update and wishing you continued healing.

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direstraits

Thank you, Bubble

 

much appreciated...xx

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Littlegrandma

DS

i want to say congrats and I'm sorry at the same time. 3 1/2 years is such a long time, but you've dealt with it like a trooper. 

 

We we all understand the hopelessness. But recovery has to be just around the corner. That's my hope for you. I wish you peace and healing.   Hugs  lg

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coldturkmama
5 hours ago, direstraits said:

just thought I would observe being off paxil for 3 1/2 years today....unfortunately not having a good day and slept lousy last night...I'm having some better days but never feel close to what I was before this.

 

still worried I won't recover from this,especially after all this time....feel so lost sometimes and hopeless.

 

any encouragement appreciated....xx

 

 

 

 

I understand completely 💕

Things will continue to improve!! 

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direstraits

thanks, lg and mama for your kind words,it means so much to me.

wishing you peace and healing.

love,ds

xx

 

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Flowers

Hi DS

 

Just saw on Frogie's thread you are going through it too with both mental and physical symptoms. So sorry to hear this.

 

It is all so exhausting isn't it. I hope you get a good day soon.

 

 

 

Love and hugs.

 

Flowers xxx

 

 

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direstraits

thanks,Flowers

It's getting so old .isn't it but we must keep going.

 

love you,ds

xxx

 

 

 

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Flowers
4 minutes ago, direstraits said:

thanks,Flowers

It's getting so old .isn't it but we must keep going.

 

love you,ds

xxx

 

 

 

Yes, another year nearly at an end and still struggling!  We will get there someday...........

 

love you too

 

Flowers xxx

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manymoretodays

Hi Dire!  Yah......me too......:blink:B)  I saw your post at Frogie's journal.  It's good day then baddish day for me now.........actually an improvement though. 

 

"Chop wood, carry water, seek enlightenment"........my current mantra to stay out of my thoughtland......

 

Love you.......let's be all healed and well by Christmas, eh?  ;)

 

mmmmmmany mmmmore  tttttodays (mmt)

 

 

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direstraits

just found out I have a cataract in left eye....wondering if it's related to AD use

 

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Littlegrandma

Geesh DS

what else? I know that's the eye that's been bothering you. Hope it's a coincidence. We all end up with cataracts at some point. Good news is the surgery is super simple. Not that it's  not scary anyway. 

 When it rains, it pours!

  How are you feeling otherwise?

lg

 

  

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manymoretodays

Oh buggers Dire.......because you don't have insurance correct?  Yes.....as Little Grandma said the surgery for it isn't too bad.  I know of 2 people who had it,  and one friend who like you has one eye cataract and can't do anything about it due to cost.  I do know she still reads big novels.  So she has adapted a bit as a one eyed vision person.   The 2 who had the surgery had a quick recovery........only a day or two, had to adjust to dual eye vision after(it's quick), and then the vision was great.

 

My insurance only covers partial vision stuff so a large co payment.  My "progressives", new glasses, seem over magnified for my new farsightedness and the lower half not so great either(reading, etc.).  They seem to increase the general blurriness when I don't wear them.  They actually may make the farsighted worse I think.  Not at all what I expected.   So......I'm just using them off and on....... for movies, tv, occasionally when driving(I got antiglare glass), meetings, just occasionally for computer use, and will maybe just spring for antiglare glass with readers....... or another exam some day.  $40.00 for the exam and a whopping $350.00 for them.  Well.....that's all about me, sorry.  I now have to carry my readers and the expensive pair everywhere.  Pain in the tush!

 

So......did you get an exam then?  And what did they quote for the surgery?  Hopefully something you can save up for in the future?

 

Idk.......if it's due to AD use........maybe it was premature as far as the occurrence of the one cataract?  Because you are my age I think(a young 60?).   My needing reading glasses sure seemed premature.   The folks I know who had the surgery are around 65 years.

 

Anyway.......pffft and great(cynically typed).

 

Keep us posted.

 

((((((Direstraits)))))))

 

mmt

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direstraits

no,no insurance....I'm devastated but was worried it might be a cataract...don't see any film on eye but anyway...my daughter who passed away was born w/ them,part of her rare disease.

 

didn't get quote yet but was looking online and it said average price is around 3500...yikes!:o

also searched antidepressants and cataracts and found there is a correlation,especially w/ luvox,effexor and paxil....I took the  last two,paxil was the last one....so I wonder...

we can make payments ...I'm only 62 so no Medicare yet....just started collecting  SS payments...guess it will go towards surgery.

we'll see what we can do...

hope you're both doing OK.

ds    xxx

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Frogie
1 minute ago, direstraits said:

no,no insurance....I'm devastated but was worried it might be a cataract...don't see any film on eye but anyway...my daughter who passed away was born w/ them,part of her rare disease.

 

didn't get quote yet but was looking online and it said average price is around 3500...yikes!:o

also searched antidepressants and cataracts and found there is a correlation,especially w/ luvox,effexor and paxil....I took the  last two,paxil was the last one....so I wonder...

we can make payments ...I'm only 62 so no Medicare yet....just started collecting  SS payments...guess it will go towards surgery.

we'll see what we can do...

hope you're both doing OK.

ds    xxx

Hi DS:

 

Sorry to hear about the cataract. Those are tough.

 

You said you just started collecting SS. Is it SSA or SSDI? The reason I ask, if it's SSA, you might be able to apply for emergency Medicaid or Medicare and be able to have your surgery paid. If it's SSDI, then you have to wait. 

 

Worth a try though.

 

Good luck!

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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direstraits

it's SSA...only about 200 a month...I wasn't able to work that much w/ my disabled daughter,but it's something.

thanks for the info,I'll look into it.

sorry you have upset stomach...I had some spicy chicken strips last night and I was up early this morning w/ cramps and went to the BR a couple times...you're not alone!

 

feel better soon and thanks again.

ds   xxx

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Frogie
1 minute ago, direstraits said:

it's SSA...only about 200 a month...I wasn't able to work that much w/ my disabled daughter,but it's something.

thanks for the info,I'll look into it.

sorry you have upset stomach...I had some spicy chicken strips last night and I was up early this morning w/ cramps and went to the BR a couple times...you're not alone!

 

feel better soon and thanks again.

ds   xxx

Look into emergency Medicaid then.

 

I'm glad I'm not the only one with this stomach problem. I've been visiting the BR a few times this morning.

 

Let me know about the Medicaid. Where I live, you can apply online. You might check it out.

 

I hope we both feel better!

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

 

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luv2knit

DS... Saw your post about the cataract, and just wanted to pop in and comment... If/when you get to the point of having surgery... First of all, the surgery is a breeze.  My husband and I were both diagnosed with cataracts in our early 50's.  WARNING, though!!!  The drops typically used in cataract surgery are Fluoroquinolones.  Oral Fluoroquinolone antibiotics are the ones that disabled our daughter 7.5 years ago at the age of 16.  The eyedrops/eardrops do just as much damage--and NOT just to the eyes.  The symptoms are actually very similar to withdrawal--CNS issues, ANS issues, musculoskeletal issues... They affect pretty much every system in the body.  My husband had been given Fluoroquinolone eyedrops during his cataract surgery 2 years before our daughter took Cipro, and we had no idea what happened to him until our daughter took Cipro.  I wasn't bad enough off to have to have the cataract surgery quite yet, but even when I was, I kept putting it off because I was afraid to be given Fluoroquinolone eyedrops. In the end, I asked for (and got) something else--even though the doctor was "not aware of any issues".  He said it was not worth stressing me out.  Even though the FDA has now come out with clear warnings that Fluoroquinolones are not to be used for routine infections, they have failed to communicate this information to doctors (it is on their website), and they still claim eyedrops and eardrops do not get into your system.  This is NOT true!!!  Many have been damaged by the "topicals", as they call them.  The main Fluoroquinolone eyedrops used are Zymar, Vigamox, Besivance, and Cipro... although I think there are one or two others.  Be sure and Google anything they might give you and make sure it is not a Fluoroquinolone.  (One way around this is to just tell them you are allergic!). Anyway, as I said, the surgery itself is a breeze, and I had no issues at all, since I was given something other than Fluoroquinolones.

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direstraits

thanks for the info,luv....appreciate that.

 

just feeling kind of overwhelmed right now....thought mY eye was just another WD symptom,oh well,at least now I can do something about it.

 

I miss you...hope you've been doing better.

take care,ds

 

xxx

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Littlegrandma

Oh great. It says beta blockers too which I'm now on because of this wd. It just doesn't stop!

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direstraits

we should all be compensatedfor the damage done to us by these awful drugs that really don't even work,mostly by placebo effect!

 

I'm so angry that we've been lied to about these drugs' safety and efficacy...it's all BS to make the drug companies a fortune.

 

it's disgusting.

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Littlegrandma

I agree. 

I also think that drug reps need to sample them before they peddle them to the doctors.  And drs should not prescribe anything they would not want their own children to take. 

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manymoretodays
On 11/19/2017 at 11:25 AM, direstraits said:

no,no insurance....I'm devastated but was worried it might be a cataract...don't see any film on eye but anyway...my daughter who passed away was born w/ them,part of her rare disease.

 

didn't get quote yet but was looking online and it said average price is around 3500...yikes!:o

also searched antidepressants and cataracts and found there is a correlation,especially w/ luvox,effexor and paxil....I took the  last two,paxil was the last one....so I wonder...

we can make payments ...I'm only 62 so no Medicare yet....just started collecting  SS payments...guess it will go towards surgery.

we'll see what we can do...

hope you're both doing OK.

ds    xxx

 

I was on the Effexor for awhile but luckily not the other two.  Thanks for the link to the article about AD's and cataracts.  That sounds like a good plan.......doing a payment plan from the get go.  And also investigating any other avenues for additional financial support for medical/vision expenses.  I really do wish medical included more vision and dental........maybe someday.  

 

I don't know.  I can't even get mad anymore about this stuff.........except when I see the current trends continuing, and even going to more vulnerable populations.  And all the short term evidence based practice guidelines..........woah, that stuff gets to me.  So.......I guess I am doing well enough, have enough, really thankful that I have not had to experience what I see so many experience that are out there in our world.......in the name of treatment.  More and more sickness instead of health.  It really hurts sometimes.  That.

 

Best.

mmt

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manymoretodays

Oh.....try not to get sucked into any outside "coverage" that includes a high interest rate.  I know dental specialists refer to those now, so I wouldn't be surprised if vision specialists do too.   They give you a nice brochure in the office.   Remember......the best care is free........it sure seems like it has always come down to that for me.  

 

Simple acts of kindness and comfort and a warm cup of tea with honey........and then we do our best to pass it on, when we can........

 

Love, peace, faith, and sometimes just the surrender to what is.

Still.......what a bummer Dire!!!!  I am grateful for you.

 

mmt

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Flowers

Hi DS

 

So sorry about the cataract. 

 

I hope you find a way to get treated soon.

 

Thinking of you.

 

Love and hugs

 

Flowers xxx

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direstraits

mmt,

my husband said if we pay it off within 2 years there's no interest,so that's good.

called SSA today and they can't help,hubby's gonna call about Medicaid tomorrow but I doubt we can get that,he makes too much.

had awful stomach pains last night and today,not too bad now...maybe stress related.

I'll try not to worry too muchand just believe it will all work out in the end...let go let God...:)

 

grateful for you too,dear

love,ds

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direstraits

thanks Flowers....hope you're doing OK.

ds

xxx

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brassmonkey

Have you looked into coverage through the ACA (Affordable Care Act) I've had it for a couple of years with no problems and it's very affordable.

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manymoretodays
6 hours ago, direstraits said:

mmt,

my husband said if we pay it off within 2 years there's no interest,so that's good.

called SSA today and they can't help,hubby's gonna call about Medicaid tomorrow but I doubt we can get that,he makes too much.

had awful stomach pains last night and today,not too bad now...maybe stress related.

I'll try not to worry too muchand just believe it will all work out in the end...let go let God...:)

 

grateful for you too,dear

love,ds

 

I don't know but you might get medicaid based on just you(even though you are married).  My social security benefits were based on just me(and I was married back then).  Maybe hubs can say he is checking for a friend.....lol.  And yes, like brassmonkey said the ACA and plans based on that might help.  It's probably even open enrollment period........well, maybe.......in my state they did it weirdly for a short, very short period last month I think.......we were one of the states that refused federal funds of any kind for health care.  Bunch of rebels.......lol......but not really funny.  Health care in America.  That.  In general.

 

Hugs honey,

 

mmt

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AliG

I'm sorry to hear this but it is good that you got it checked out and now know that it is able to be dealt with.  My mother had this operation and now her eyesight is perfect. I hope you can resolve this situation.

Hugs,

Ali

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direstraits
9 hours ago, brassmonkey said:

Have you looked into coverage through the ACA (Affordable Care Act) I've had it for a couple of years with no problems and it's very affordable.

we had it a few years ago but the premiums went so high we couldn't afford it.

my husband just suggested that I apply for myself..I'll see what happens.

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direstraits

thanks for your support, mmt and Ali.

xxx

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direstraits

felt very depressed yesterday...really scared me,thought I was past that, haven't felt like that in a long time.

I did have a small can of Coke the night before,haven't had that for ages but just felt like having one w/my chips.

feeling better today,thank goodness....I really need to eat better but it's hard when your husband does the food shopping and isn't the healthiest eater!

this time of year doesn' t help either.

I hope to do better in the new year...that's my goal.

healing thoughts to all....ds

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AliG

Hi DS. Sorry to hear that you've been down ~ but at least it sounds temporary. It could even be hormonal. I hope you managed to sort out the situation with your cataract surgery. Is it going ahead? Good luck with it all.

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