Member cymbaltawithdrawal5600 Posted January 8, 2015 Member Share Posted January 8, 2015 Well done sir! I see your signature! (It is retroactive to all of your posts) What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878 July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site. Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey. Link to comment
Patoski Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 Cymbalta please tell me I'm there now . I might throw party .This has been frustrating me for weeks it's actually been adding to my symptoms I feel like I've passed a big exam. Please let me know I was originally on 350 mils doxepin started in1975 through the years I tapered down to 100 mils I stayed on this dose for many years I have now been off for 7 months ago Link to comment
Member cymbaltawithdrawal5600 Posted January 8, 2015 Member Share Posted January 8, 2015 Patoski, I saw you here this morning, I checked your thread and wrote you a congratulatory note, see above. But you logged off and did not see it. There is a trick to seeing if you have new messages while you are still logged on - just go read some other topic and then come back to yours. If there is a new message, it will probably show up. You passed! (PS. Invite me to party, I need a vaycay) What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878 July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site. Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey. Link to comment
Patoski Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 Cymbalta thankyou so much for your patience I am so pleased that I am now in order. I want to make a donation to the site can you please send me a name and address where I can send a cheque to .I am not worried about my anonymity I just don't use plastic thankyou my friend. I was originally on 350 mils doxepin started in1975 through the years I tapered down to 100 mils I stayed on this dose for many years I have now been off for 7 months ago Link to comment
Member cymbaltawithdrawal5600 Posted January 8, 2015 Member Share Posted January 8, 2015 Unfortunately the only way you can donate to the site is via the PayPal link at the top of every page, the big yellow button that says "Donate". But please let me check with the site Administrator first to make sure that information is right, ok? Either they or I will get back to you soon. What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878 July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site. Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey. Link to comment
Member cymbaltawithdrawal5600 Posted January 8, 2015 Member Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) I sent a note to the Administrator and will get back to you. Edited January 26, 2015 by cymbaltawithdrawal5600 removed unnecessary text What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878 July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site. Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey. Link to comment
Member cymbaltawithdrawal5600 Posted January 9, 2015 Member Share Posted January 9, 2015 Patoski, The only way the site can accept donations is through the PayPal (donate) link at the top of the page. If you cannot use it, maybe you can get someone to help you, maybe a friend? Sorry! What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878 July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site. Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey. Link to comment
btdt Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 congratulations! on so many things I would have to make a list on putting up with people not knowing and not caring how awful you feel we really must forgive them how could they know how bad it really is on too the injustice of it all.. of taking it and turning it around and congratulations on picking such a wonderful woman for a wife who stood by you and helped you through everything I hope the rest is gentle on you. I wish you peace... which is the best thing I can think WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Patoski Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Thanks btdt it's so easy to get lost in your own suffering and to forget others suffer with us the greatest gift God ever gave me in recovery is my wife she has stuck by me throudigh thick and thin I did not always appreciate that as a young man but I know today I would never have survived with out her . I see you to have suffered and I wish you a full and complete recovery .I know it's possible because I recovered from bensos over the last 28 years. I've actually let go of that experience now but I'm using what I learnt from that to beat my antidepressant with drawel I wish you peace as well God bless you I was originally on 350 mils doxepin started in1975 through the years I tapered down to 100 mils I stayed on this dose for many years I have now been off for 7 months ago Link to comment
btdt Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Some people are blessed with great love I am glad you have been and I love that you realize it now... I see so much potential in that knowing to see you thru this too... I am sure the skills and depth of self you developed during life's earlier struggles will help you now too. It does get better with time I do some days wonder about complete healing but I am also grateful for the incomplete bits of daylight... they seem that much sweeter when they come. I hope your having some windows and make the most of them... I try to but don't always. Sometimes I just suck it in... a good day counts a good hour counts too... at some points a good minute counts... gratitude goes a long way in making life a bit better... I wish I had a reminder of this as it works so well... yet I constantly forget and need a kick in the pants. God bless you too and more peace always B WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Some people are blessed with great love I am glad you have been and I love that you realize it now... I see so much potential in that knowing to see you thru this too... I am sure the skills and depth of self you developed during life's earlier struggles will help you now too. It does get better with time I do some days wonder about complete healing but I am also grateful for the incomplete bits of daylight... they seem that much sweeter when they come. I hope your having some windows and make the most of them... I try to but don't always. Sometimes I just suck it in... a good day counts a good hour counts too... at some points a good minute counts... gratitude goes a long way in making life a bit better... I wish I had a reminder of this as it works so well... yet I constantly forget and need a kick in the pants. God bless you too and more peace always B Ps I have a sister who has a husband who quit booze years ago... and while it has been a wonderful thing he has done with the help of AA I also know how much my sister as his wife has been his rock... she has and I see it as one of the greatest testaments of love I have ever been graced to see. Your story reminded me of them and of course my sister ...hence mentioning you wife. just explaining myself a bit. As the post may have seemed a bit off otherwise. They are both in the 70's now and to this day doing it all together... tho they have cranky moments watching their relationship gives me hope for marriages everywhere hats off to you both. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 One more thing at the risk of boring you to tears... I look at all the trials you have had... three different types of withdrawal spanning years... the struggle thinking you made it out only to have to face it again and again. I identify with this. I had a bad accident when I was young it took a long time to recover years... and along the way I got put on these drugs for pain. Since withdrawal about 5 years in I was rear ended and hurt again... I still am dealing with the fallout. At the time i said why me again!? I am sure this has crossed you mind since having to come off Ads too... I am sure there has been coming to terms with yet another bit of what seems utter nonsense... another trial. I wonder if you have any insight into how you get your mind around accepting this ... guess I am looking for something beyond the "accept it and get on with healing best you can attitude" I have had to adopt as there is nothing else to do. I think I am seeking a bit of wisdom and figure you may have some I am just curious there may not be any great wisdom behind just more to get through. I am curious on your thoughts. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Patoski Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 B I HAVE NO GREAT WISDOM BUT I DO HAVE A FAITH IN A POWER GREATER than my self.i also have what I call some sky hooks which I hang onto when the going gets rough.one of them is Don't give up 5 minutes before the miracle happens This too will pass Keep it in today speak to someone about how I feel get down on my knees and hand my will and my life over to my higher power hand my withdrawel s over to his care.this is what keeps me sane and gets me through each day.ihave stopped poor me .and why me and I feel at my best when I'm helping other sufferers so bore me as much as you like because it helps me .be well my friend I was originally on 350 mils doxepin started in1975 through the years I tapered down to 100 mils I stayed on this dose for many years I have now been off for 7 months ago Link to comment
btdt Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 B I HAVE NO GREAT WISDOM BUT I DO HAVE A FAITH IN A POWER GREATER than my self.i also have what I call some sky hooks which I hang onto when the going gets rough.one of them is Don't give up 5 minutes before the miracle happens This too will pass Keep it in today speak to someone about how I feel get down on my knees and hand my will and my life over to my higher power hand my withdrawel s over to his care.this is what keeps me sane and gets me through each day.ihave stopped poor me .and why me and I feel at my best when I'm helping other sufferers so bore me as much as you like because it helps me .be well my friend There must be some kind of common wisdom at work in us withdrawal people as some of those are my very favorite things... I don't speak to people about how I feel much... bit lonely where I am and have stopped calling my sisters so much since one of my sisters passed away we all live in different cities I think we are all feeling the loss and dealing with it differently. This too will pass has got me thru some really rough parts of withdrawal. need to watch for poor me I can slip in there at times... Keep it in today... I will try that one as it is new to me as is Don't give up 5 minutes before the miracle happens..... I don't know why I gave up on miracles.. how did that happen? I just realized it now I no longer resonate to miracles one could happen.. perhaps my hope is low or something ...it just seems to be missing in me. Thank you I will ponder this... I was told recently that I was I can't think of the right word ..but down on everything.. maybe I am... even miracles... odd how I did not notice. Actually often I am the last one to find something like this out so it is not so odd I guess. I just normally don' t believe people right away I am a skeptic on other people perceptions of me and my circumstance as they are generally clueless about it ... they just don't know they don't really know as I keep much of it to myself. Thank you peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Patoski Posted January 23, 2015 Author Share Posted January 23, 2015 Hi anyone I have just finished a 6 week stint on antibiotics for my eyes which kicked in a massive wave only now to have to go on another course of antibiotics because of an infection in my prostate. No doubt this will proceed to bash me up too. One thing after another but I'm still sitting in my restaurant with my block of concrete in my head and feeling a bit depressed. One of my young waitresses just came over and gave me a hug and that's made me more determined to keep going and to recover it also brought a tear to my eye which let's me know I've still got feelings. You no i am so grateful I survived my alcoholism and my addiction to bensos I'm sure God will get me through this one as well with the help of this site and AA who has taught me to keep it in today I was originally on 350 mils doxepin started in1975 through the years I tapered down to 100 mils I stayed on this dose for many years I have now been off for 7 months ago Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus dalsaan Posted January 24, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 24, 2015 Just keep putting one foot after the other, there are lots of people walking with you I am D Please note - I am not a medical practitioner and I do not give medical advice. I offer an opinion based on my own experiences, reading and discussion with others.On Effexor for 2 months at the start of 2005. Had extreme insomnia as an adverse reaction. Changed to mirtazapine. Have been trying to get off since mid 2008 with numerous failures including CTs and slow (but not slow enough tapers)Have slow tapered at 10 per cent or less for years. I have liquid mirtazapine made at a compounding chemist. Was on 1.6 ml as at 19 March 2014. Dropped to 1.5 ml 7 June 2014. Dropped to 1.4 in about September. Dropped to 1.3 on 20 December 2014. Dropped to 1.2 in mid Jan 2015. Dropped to 1 ml in late Feb 2015. I think my old medication had run out of puff so I tried 1ml when I got the new stuff and it seems to be going ok. Sleep has been good over the last week (as of 13/3/15). Dropped to 1/2 ml 14/11/15 Fatigue still there as are memory and cognition problems. Sleep is patchy but liveable compared to what it has been in the past. DRUG FREE - as at 1st May 2017 >My intro post is here - http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2250-dalsaan Link to comment
btdt Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Hi anyone I have just finished a 6 week stint on antibiotics for my eyes which kicked in a massive wave only now to have to go on another course of antibiotics because of an infection in my prostate. No doubt this will proceed to bash me up too. One thing after another but I'm still sitting in my restaurant with my block of concrete in my head and feeling a bit depressed. One of my young waitresses just came over and gave me a hug and that's made me more determined to keep going and to recover it also brought a tear to my eye which let's me know I've still got feelings. You no i am so grateful I survived my alcoholism and my addiction to bensos I'm sure God will get me through this one as well with the help of this site and AA who has taught me to keep it in today Some of us react badly to certain antibiotics and to me it has been worth checking to see if others would work just as well for the infection you have. I don't know what the link is about the antibiotics that are not good for many is withdrawal but I will look and see if I can find it. If I can I will send you the link. I am glad you have some inspiration to keep going hoping that waitress has a lot more hugs and that the support your getting from AA continues to sustain you. I wish you peace. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I found this link it is a bit disjointed and very long because a few topics on it were merged so it will be tricky reading on a phone maybe. I hope it is of some use to you and I hope your recovery quickly. I have had a lot of antibiotics this year and have to say you have my sympathy. Taking a probiotic can help keep your stomach healthy when taking antibiotics especially when your taking them for long terms as you are. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Patoski Posted January 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 24, 2015 Dal And BT thank you both for your support it does get a bit lonley out here even in a packed restaurant when you're inwithdrawal. I have to keep smiling as if there's nothing wrong my staff no I'm not to we'll at the moment and they are very friendly and supportive and when I get home my wife is there and she helps me no end I feel sorry for members that are on there own but I'm glad they have this site it is invaluable to all of us.tus.the only way through this is with help in my own strength I have no chance and believe me I'm no wimp so thank you both once again x I was originally on 350 mils doxepin started in1975 through the years I tapered down to 100 mils I stayed on this dose for many years I have now been off for 7 months ago Link to comment
sunflower Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Hi Patoski, I am so rooting for you! You have overcome so many addictions and I'm praying that you will beat this one too! I have been on Zoloft for 17 years and want off this med. You are an inspiration to so many here on SA... Sunflower 1998-2010. Zoloft 100 mgs. 3/2010. Switched to generic Z and began not to feel well. 7/2010. Estrogen patch added which caused severe depression. 8/2010 to 10/2010. Zoloft increased from 100 mgs to 200 mgs., Klonopin .25 mgs in am; .50 mgs pm; Remeron .25 mgs. added by new doc 1/2011. Began tapering K; last dose of K 7/2011. 11/2011 Began Remeron taper; last dose of R 1/2012 (Tapered K & R by dry cutting) 1/2013 Began tapering Z from 200 mgs to 100 mgs by dry cutting 3/2013. Experiencing wd sx...took break 9/2013. Down to 150 mgs. 2/2014 - Present. 100 mgs Z 1-21-15. Began dry cutting 100 mgs. Link to comment
btdt Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I am glad you have your wife and work I am sure it beats sitting on the couch all day which is where I end up a lot of days. I hope you rest too as some couch time is not so bad. Your doing good all things considered or even wd considered... I just read back to see about the antibiotic you were on and noticed I did not send you the link... I am so sorry what a silly mistake as I talk about the link looked it up and then forgot to post it... sorry I do things like that sometimes... so here is the link I meant to post there are others on SA about antibiotics http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1126-taking-antibiotics/page-2 I wish you peace B WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Patoski Posted January 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 24, 2015 And I'm so stupid with this phone I did not want to mention it lest i show the whole site beyond doubt that I am an hopeless. Case there its out of the bag.its the truth that sets you free ha ha I was originally on 350 mils doxepin started in1975 through the years I tapered down to 100 mils I stayed on this dose for many years I have now been off for 7 months ago Link to comment
LoveandLight Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Yes you are an inspiration. 2000 - sertraline for job anxiety low confidence (17 years old) ..which turned the next 16 years into nightmare! On/off sertraline severe withdrawals every time. 2014 - felt better as reduced dose of sertraline no more inner restlessness. Doctor rushed off again. Hit severe withdrawal. Lost the little I had in life. Couldn't get stable again on 12.5mg. Was switched to prozac. Had severe reaction to prozac..came off in November 2015 at 6mg as felt more confused and damaged on it..Even more withdrawal ..rage, depression, dyphoria, near constant suicidal ideation, self harm impulses, doom, concrete block in head, unable to do much of anything with this feeling in head..went back on 6mg of sertraline to see if would alleviate anything. It didn't..reduced from December to June 2016 came off at 2.5mg sertraline as was hospitalised for the severe rage, suicidal impulses, and put on 50mg lofepramine which in 2nd week reduced all symptoms but gave insomnia which still have..psych stopped lofepramine cold turkey..no increased withdrawal symptoms new symptoms from lofepramine except persistant insomnia which has as side effect. Taking Ativan for 8 months for the severe rage self harm impulses 1-3 times a week (mostly 2 times a week) at .5mg. Two months (I'm unsure exactly when the interdose started to happen) ago interdose withdrawal seemed to happen..2 days I think after the Ativan. Nightmare that could have been avoided! Link to comment
btdt Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 And I'm so stupid with this phone I did not want to mention it lest i show the whole site beyond doubt that I am an hopeless. Case there its out of the bag.its the truth that sets you free ha ha I am a firm believer in the truth setting you free I don't own a cell phone and have no clue how to use one so don't be too quick to judge yourself harshly... you miles ahead of some peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Patoski Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 Thank you my re assuring b friend I was originally on 350 mils doxepin started in1975 through the years I tapered down to 100 mils I stayed on this dose for many years I have now been off for 7 months ago Link to comment
Patoski Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 NEWS FLASH PATOSKI HAS GOT UP TO A WINDOW TO DAY JUST HOPE NO ONE BREAKS IT I WOULDN'T SAY IM PAIN FREE BUT IM not in distress. I'm going to the antiques market and I'm going to enjoy this while it last. I'm sure my torturers are there in the shadows plotting there next attack but I'll deal with that when it comes I wish you all a window to day and pray for the day it stays open for all of us xx YOU ALL A WINDOW I was originally on 350 mils doxepin started in1975 through the years I tapered down to 100 mils I stayed on this dose for many years I have now been off for 7 months ago Link to comment
Patoski Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 NEWS FLASH PATOSKI HAS GOT UP TO A WINDOW TO DAY JUST HOPE NO ONE BREAKS IT I WOULDN'T SAY IM PAIN FREE BUT IM not in distress. I'm going to the antiques market and I'm going to enjoy this while it last. I'm sure my torturers are there in the shadows plotting there next attack but I'll deal with that when it comes I wish you all a window to day and pray for the day it stays open for all of us xx I was originally on 350 mils doxepin started in1975 through the years I tapered down to 100 mils I stayed on this dose for many years I have now been off for 7 months ago Link to comment
LoveandLight Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Yay great haha x 2000 - sertraline for job anxiety low confidence (17 years old) ..which turned the next 16 years into nightmare! On/off sertraline severe withdrawals every time. 2014 - felt better as reduced dose of sertraline no more inner restlessness. Doctor rushed off again. Hit severe withdrawal. Lost the little I had in life. Couldn't get stable again on 12.5mg. Was switched to prozac. Had severe reaction to prozac..came off in November 2015 at 6mg as felt more confused and damaged on it..Even more withdrawal ..rage, depression, dyphoria, near constant suicidal ideation, self harm impulses, doom, concrete block in head, unable to do much of anything with this feeling in head..went back on 6mg of sertraline to see if would alleviate anything. It didn't..reduced from December to June 2016 came off at 2.5mg sertraline as was hospitalised for the severe rage, suicidal impulses, and put on 50mg lofepramine which in 2nd week reduced all symptoms but gave insomnia which still have..psych stopped lofepramine cold turkey..no increased withdrawal symptoms new symptoms from lofepramine except persistant insomnia which has as side effect. Taking Ativan for 8 months for the severe rage self harm impulses 1-3 times a week (mostly 2 times a week) at .5mg. Two months (I'm unsure exactly when the interdose started to happen) ago interdose withdrawal seemed to happen..2 days I think after the Ativan. Nightmare that could have been avoided! Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Fresh Posted January 31, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 31, 2015 That's great to hear Patowski . . . enjoy it! Fresh 1987-1997 pertofran , prothiaden , Prozac 1997-2002 Zoloft 2002-2004 effexor 2004-2010 Lexapro 40mg 2010-2012Cymbalta 120mg Sept. 2012 -decreased 90mg in 6months. Care taken over by Dr Lucire in March 2013 , decreased last 30mg at 2mg per week over 3 months. July 21 , 2013- last dose of Cymbalta Protracted withdrawal syndrome kicked in badly Jan.2014 Unrelenting akathisia until May 2014. Voluntary hosp. admission. Cocktail of Seroquel, Ativan and mirtazapine and I was well enough to go home after 14 days. Stopped all hosp. meds in next few months. July 2014 felt v.depressed - couldn't stop crying. Started pristiq 50mg. Felt improvement within days and continued to improve, so stayed on 50mg for 8 months. Began taper 28 Feb. 2015. Pristiq 50mg down to 45mg. Had one month of w/d symptoms. Started CES therapy in March. No w/d symptoms down to 30mg. October 2015 , taking 25mg Pristiq. Capsules compounded with slow-release additive. March 2016 , 21mg Link to comment
Patoski Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 Thanks jo and you too fresh have a good day windows gone bye the way but it was nice while it lasted looking for the next one but I won't hold my breath ha ha I was originally on 350 mils doxepin started in1975 through the years I tapered down to 100 mils I stayed on this dose for many years I have now been off for 7 months ago Link to comment
btdt Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Thanks jo and you too fresh have a good day windows gone bye the way but it was nice while it lasted looking for the next one but I won't hold my breath ha ha I am glad to hear you had one... where there is one there is more. Glad too you seized the moment and did something you wanted to do it does make a big difference to use the good time well. I need to work on that myself to do better with the times I have. Your a very good inspiration. Thanks you and peace. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Patoski Posted February 2, 2015 Author Share Posted February 2, 2015 I had one of my worst nights last night I really felt that it had stepped up a gear I was awake at 2 .30 and never got back to sleep I was in pain all the time and for the first time I had some horrible thought's about the fact that it's to late to reinstate I felt frightened for a while and then I pulled myself to get her I put on my relaxation tape and calmed my self down when I got up I felt that I'd been hit by a bus the reason I'm sharing this is so that other people know no matter how frightening how painful it gets its still only withdrawel it can seem like the end of the world while you're in it but right now I'm sitting in my restaurant writing this postpost.i would never have believed this last night I hope this helps someone I was originally on 350 mils doxepin started in1975 through the years I tapered down to 100 mils I stayed on this dose for many years I have now been off for 7 months ago Link to comment
btdt Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Thank you my re assuring b friend I missed this and your very welcome I feel honored you call me friend I am sorry you had such a lousy night it does happen but you handled it great and knowing you have carried on and are at work posting realizing you could not imagine this last night ... that I am sure will go a long way in helping others get on with it. I hope a window is around the corner I have no advice as I see your handling this like a champion wd person... you rock just keep going I think you have a good idea already what this will take a the common sense and grit it takes have already been practiced in your past. I wish you peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Patoski Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 I know this illness inside and out and yet I allowed myself to be fooled by the doctors once again I'm sure they ment Well and I hold no bitter Ness towards them I know I am responsible for my own recovery I was told 28 years ago to be careful of painkillers and so in the last 28 years I have never used them but I've had a pain in my groin for the last 8 months and I'm on antibiotics for it the doctor told me that I should also use Ibrufen and for some unknown reason I listened I took them for 4 days and the stopped the pain in my groin but the pain in my head trebled was reduced to a moaning wreck frightened out of my life so I stopper them and thank Good I feel a lot better mI still have the pain in my groin but it's preferabile to the state I was in and I think the antibiotics will adventually take care of that . I know now I must remain vigaliant and never allow anybody else to control my recovery the only way through this is with patients belief and longýsuffering sounds tough I know but it's the truth that sets you free . I wish you all well and hope this post may keep someone from falling into the same trap. I was originally on 350 mils doxepin started in1975 through the years I tapered down to 100 mils I stayed on this dose for many years I have now been off for 7 months ago Link to comment
btdt Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I know this illness inside and out and yet I allowed myself to be fooled by the doctors once again I'm sure they ment Well and I hold no bitter Ness towards them I know I am responsible for my own recovery I was told 28 years ago to be careful of painkillers and so in the last 28 years I have never used them but I've had a pain in my groin for the last 8 months and I'm on antibiotics for it the doctor told me that I should also use Ibrufen and for some unknown reason I listened I took them for 4 days and the stopped the pain in my groin but the pain in my head trebled was reduced to a moaning wreck frightened out of my life so I stopper them and thank Good I feel a lot better mI still have the pain in my groin but it's preferabile to the state I was in and I think the antibiotics will adventually take care of that . I know now I must remain vigaliant and never allow anybody else to control my recovery the only way through this is with patients belief and longýsuffering sounds tough I know but it's the truth that sets you free . I wish you all well and hope this post may keep someone from falling into the same trap. I wonder if the head issues are the antibiotic or the ibuprofen? It is hard to tell which drug is the problems when you need to take two drugs at one time. There is a list here of antibiotics that are not good to take when your in withdrawal... some are not good to take ever as the side effects can be bad and long term. I hope you feel better soon. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Patoski Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 BTDT IT'S A MINEFIELD YESTERDAY I HAD ONE OF MY WORST DAY IN WITH DRAWEL I WOKE AT 4 IN THE MORNING MY HEAD AND NECK WERECOMEPLETY LOCKED I COULD NOT MOVE THE PAIN WAS EXCRUCIATING I HAD TO SIT IN ACHAIR ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT IT WOULD NOT ALLOW ME TO LAY DOWN I COULD NOT SLEEP AT ALL JUST PAIN HOUR AFTER HOUR SOME HOW I'VE GOT THROUGH TILL NOW IT IS SLIGHTLY BETTER BUT IM NOT LOOKING FOR WARD TO THIS DAY AND NIGHT BUT SOMEHOW I HAVE TO KEEP GOING. VERY PLEASED THAT MY ANTIBIOTICS FINISH TODAY. BTDT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR REPLY AND I HOPE YOUR HAVING A GOOD DAY YOUR SELF IT'S NOT EASY IS IT MATE BUT WHO KNOWS ONE DAY WE MAY BE COMPLETETLY FREE THANKS AGAIN MATE GOD BLESS BE WELL I was originally on 350 mils doxepin started in1975 through the years I tapered down to 100 mils I stayed on this dose for many years I have now been off for 7 months ago Link to comment
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