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Not eating MSG has helped me.... 


To avoid MSG first we have to be able to identify it ...



 "It's too simple an explanation", but the truth is, most of us are suffering needlessly because of so-called "safe" food additives, namely excitatory neuro-transmitters (nicknamed excitotoxins). The main ones are monosodium glutamate (MSG), aspartame, and L-cysteine. You may think that you are actually avoiding MSG if you avoid Chinese restaurants, but this factory created flavor enhancer is in almost every bottled, bagged, frozen, or canned processed food on super market shelves. But since MSG is often a component of a formulation, it is not labeled as such. You've seen words like autolyzed yeast, hydrolyzed protein, and whey protein. Each of these substances contain a percentage of glutamate, the harmful component of MSG."


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other names for MSG



supposed remedies tho this is all new to me they have taurine on the list... again if your going to use this try it at !/6th the dose and wait... do the same with anything else you going to try.


For food ...simple cooked at home in water or steam is best if your unwell... things easy to digest or things you can just drink to start with.  


Potassium if you think you need it can be found in dried apricots nibble here and there it usually takes a couple to help me feel better...


Are you craving something it may be just what you need I have found this to be true in the past... you may have to modify how you cook it boiling or baking beats frying ... for my body.  

I often crave beets when I am sick... yes raw beets grated... I know it sounds bad but makes me feel better.

peace all 

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One more thing on that list beside taurine was advil... for brain fog year one two I can't recall which years I took one advil every day and waiting for the brain fog to clear... if you stomach hurts don't take it. 

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Oh man, it's funny I just logged on here and saw this post. I have been healthy food for almost two years now. By that I mean FOR SURE hardly any processed foods: foods out of boxes, cans, etc. I eat most;y fresh fruits and veggies , yogurt etc etc.


ell today I went to an all you can eat Bologna Days... a local fun thing to do I've heard. Live music..in a bar etc. They had sauerkraut, beans, fake potatoes, beer cheese soup that was NOT made from scratch etc etc.


Holy crap. Do I FEEL like crap. I have a massive headache and a strong urge to eat a cucumber. A CUCUMBER!!! Weird.


Massive headache, gas, ... yuck.


I'm drinking lots of water hoping to flush the system. Good thing I'm in  a hold or this would set me back.


MSG = BAD      my cells are cursing me.



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Please "EAT A CUCUMBER!!! 


If your body is craving it and you know it is healthy EAT IT!

Peel it first or juice it even but eat it. 


I craved beets when I ate them I felt better.  I think it is a good idea our bodies are smarter then we think. I will sometimes eat a bad food I crave just to test it... yep I know I am wild a maverick :)

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I ate two and seriously I felt so much better!!! No more processed foods for me!!! 

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I am always shocked how I don't do what I know is best as soon as I am not suffering I want something I should not eat... sometimes I actually get away with it.  For some reason maybe rebellion or stupidity I keep wanting to force the issue I have this deep need to be back to normal.  To know I can eat anything I use to eat so I do tend to go on a good run then mess it up with a hot dog or something.  After all these years I get away with stuff here and there.  

Glad the cucumber helped I swear cravings make some kind of sense. No I can't explain it and I don't need to I have come to trust it. 

as much as I trust anything and that is not much. 

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Funny - when I had my adverse reaction to citalopram -

All I craved was eggs and bananas.


All I'm craving now is Chinese takeaway :-(

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Curious this is the chemical make up of a banana


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Funny - when I had my adverse reaction to citalopram -

All I craved was eggs and bananas.


All I'm craving now is Chinese takeaway :-(

Any particular Chinese dish you want?

I don't see a connection between the firs two but I am not good at this anyway maybe you will see something 

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Definitely MSG sensitive - anything contains MSG makes me feel so sick in the head and physically.

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Sorry btdt - eggs and bananas I'm ok with...they are only foods I could eat when I had a serious adverse effect to an ssri.

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(NaturalNews) MSG, or Monosodium Glutamate is a salt that is chemically converted into a flavour enhancer. Research has shown that MSG, found in most popular processed foods, causes weight gain and obesity in lab animals by damaging the appetite regulation center in the area of the brain known as the hypothalamus, causing leptin resistence. Leptin is the hormone that controls how much a person feels like eating. The fullness, gratification and satisfaction that come from having eaten is completely lost when MSG is consumed, leading to an urge to eat that never stops. A recent cross-sectional study in China supports the conclusion that what was seen in the animal studies also applies to people.


Study finds using MSG can cause weight gain


The study, reported in the August edition of Obesity examined the association between MSG intake and weight gain in humans. Researchers conducted a cross-sectional study involving 752 healthy Chinese people ages 40-59. These people were randomly sampled from three rural villages in north and south China. Forty-eight percent were women. The great majority of the participants prepared their foods at home, without use of commercially processed foods. For the study, participants were told to add quantified amounts of MSG when preparing their foods. Eighty-two percent of the participants were MSG users. Their average intake was 330 milligrams per day.


After adjusting for confounders including physical activity and total energy intake, the researchers found that MSG consumption was positively related to increases in body mass index. Weight gain was significantly greater in MSG users than in nonusers. For the third of participants using the highest amount of MSG, the odds of reaching overweight status were between 2.10 and 2.75 greater than for nonusers.


MSG is an excitotoxin that causes brain damage


MSG is a food additive found in almost all commercially prepared and packaged food. It supercharges the taste of food, but not in the way you would think. MSG operates on the brain, fooling it into thinking food tastes really great. MSG is an excitotoxin in the brain, meaning that it over stimulates the brain causing the production of excessive amounts of dopamine. This creates a drug-like rush that provides a brief sensation of well being. It is highly addictive, causing its consumers to keep coming back for more and end up overeating. In the process, brain cells are destroyed.


Because MSG damages the brain and alters the ability of the brain to respond to the signal from the hormone leptin that satiety has occurred, it is a prime culprit in the epidemic of obesity that has everyone scratching their heads as to cause. Several research studies have shown that ingestion of MSG induces obesity in rats. In fact, when researchers want to fatten up lab rats for experiments, they feed them MSG because its effect is so predictable and rats will bulk up with regularity. MSG destroys the hard wiring in the brain of a rat like it does in the brain of a person.


Corporations that sell processed food love MSG because it makes cheap ingredients taste great. The success of their highly addictive branded flavors depends on their ability to stimulate the brain and create a repetitive response to these products. Instead of creating a quality product that tastes good on its own merits, processed food producers just lace a low integrity food product with MSG without regard for the negative effects it will have on the person who eats this product.


One of corporate America's best friends, the FDA, has said for many years that consumption of MSG is safe, and has condoned its use as an additive flavor enhancer in countless processed and branded food products. As obesity has reached epidemic proportions in American society, the FDA has purposefully ignored the steady stream of research showing its obesity producing effects. WHY is the US government OK with MSG in our food, especially when obesity and diabetes appear to be a problems they would like to address? Good question.


MSG also promotes liver inflammation and dysplasia


Chronic inflammation is a common theme in a variety of disease pathways, including autoimmune diseases. It is a concern due to its increasing prevalence in the westernized world and its direct correlation with lifestyle factors, particularly the diet. Diet caused liver damage may lead to liver cancer. In a study reported in the February-March, 2008 edition of the Journal of Autoimmunity, researchers reported that injecting MSG in mice leads to significant liver inflammation along with obesity and type 2 diabetes. To address the long-term consequences of MSG on inflammation, they performed serial analysis of MSG injected mice and focused in particular on liver pathology.


They found that by the age of 6 and 12 months, all MSG treated mice developed liver inflammation and structural change. Lesions were detected in some cases. They concluded that their results take on considerable significance in light of the widespread usage of dietary MSG and suggested that MSG should have its safety profile re-examined and potentially be withdrawn from the food chain.


The FDA condones food producers hiding MSG in their products


When people become aware of the dangers to their health and well being from the use of MSG, they no longer want to buy products that contain it. The producers of processed foods know that people don't want to consume MSG but are unwilling to remove it from their products because without it, people wouldn't want to buy them unless the quality was greatly improved, a task which would raise the cost of production. So they have gone to extremes to hide MSG in their products and this has been allowed by the FDA.


The term MSG is seldom seen listed on a food label, but MSG is most likely contained in the food, in a disguised form. Here are some of its many disguises: hydrolyzed vegetable protein, autolyzed vegetable protein, textured vegetable protein, hydrolyzed yeast extract, autolyzed yeast extract, plant protein extract, sodium caseinate, calcium caseinate, yeast extract, textured whey protein, and textured soy protein. Even the innocuous terms spice and natural flavor can designate the presence of MSG.


The use of MSG is another example of how corporate America has turned its back on the very consumers who buy their products, all in the name of greed. By continuing to pump their products full of MSG after knowing their customers do not want to consume it, food corporations are showing the ultimate in contempt for the food buying public, a contempt which should produce outrage rather than brand loyalty.


MSG is the world's most widely used flavor enhancer


It's very difficult to find any canned or packaged food item that does not contain MSG in one of its hidden forms. It's in canned and boxed soups, dried soup mixes, frozen prepared meals, canned prepared meals, fast food, junk food, snack food, Chinese food, gravy, stew, chili, canned beans, salad dressing, seasoning blends and mixes, bullion, broths, and prepared pasta products. Most restaurant food contains loads of MSG. It's what makes the restaurant experience so compelling. Hot food bars at grocery stores have foods containing MSG. Even high priced prepared foods that market themselves as gourmet are laced with MSG, such as the soup mixes and other non-dessert products at Harry and David's


You won't escape MSG shopping at Whole Foods or other stores that claim to sell healthy food. Many of the bagged, bottled, frozen and canned foods at Whole Foods contain MSG hidden under another name. Some of the deli dishes as well as those on the hot bar and the take-out rack contain hidden MSG.


Most processed food for children also contains high levels of MSG, such as spaghetti O's and other prepared pasta or pasta mixes, alphabet soup and chicken noodle soup, microwavable cups, packaged dinners marketed to kids, and much more. A meal of MSG containing food can raise the blood level of excitotoxin to a value proven in primates to destroy brain cells. A child's brain is four times mores sensitive to damage by excitotoxins than is the brain of an adult.


Chronic MSG ingestion by children may be one reason behind the nation's falling test scores, as well as attention and hyperactivity problems exhibited by children at home and at school.


The best way avoid MSG is by buying whole foods and preparing them at home. The next best thing is to become an expert at label reading and knowing the various disguises under which MSG travels. There are a few packaged prepared items at traditional grocery stores that do not contain MSG. At health food stores there are many more.


When you have managed to avoid MSG for a period of time and adjusted to the delicious taste of food as it was meant to be experienced, you will be shocked when you go out to a restaurant and taste food loaded with MSG again. You will know instantly because the flavor is so intense it is almost eye popping, and you suddenly want to just keep eating and eating.


Study found Red Clover able to block brain damage from MSG


Sometimes you just can't get around having to eat food that contains MSG. Eating at a restaurant with friends, an invitation to the boss' house for dinner, the need to stop for fast food while on a trip and many other situations can crop up where exposure to MSG is inevitable. A recent study found that pre-treating yourself with a supplement of red clover before you dine can nullify the potential for brain damage from MSG.


Phytomedicine, June 5, 2008 edition, reports researchers finding that the natural mixture of phytoestrogenic isoflavones found in red clover can protect the brain from MSG toxicity. They used a human cortical cell line to test the efficacy of a red clover fraction. When the cells were pretreated with red clover isoflavones there was a significant increase in cell survival and a significant decreased in the release of an enzyme indicating cell damage. The pretreatment also prevented the morphological disruption caused by MSG.


The following foods contain MSG in amounts large enough to cause reactions in those sensitive to it.:

Taco Bell® - seasoned meat - contains autolyzed yeast - which contains free glutamate

Other menu items that contain soy sauce, natural flavors, autolyzed yeast or hydrolyzed protein which can contain up to 20% free glutamic acid - the active part of MSG.

Hamburger Helper Microwave Singles® (targeted towards children)


Campbell's® soups - all of them - based on their commitment to add "umami" (read - MSG) to their products

Pringles® (the flavored varieties)

Boar's Head® cold cuts and most of their hotdogs

Progresso® Soups - all of them

Lipton® Noodles and Sauce

Lipton® Instant soup mix

Unilever or Knorr® products - often used in homemade Veggie dips.

Kraft® products nearly all contain some free glutamate

Gravy Master®

Cup-a-soup® or Cup-o-Noodles®

Planters® salted nuts - most of them

Accent® -this is nearly pure MSG

Hodgson Mill Kentucky Kernel Seasoned Flour®

Tangle extract (seaweed extract) - found in sushi rolls (even at Whole Foods) Seaweed is what MSG was first isolated from.

Fish extract - made from decomposed fish protein - used now in Japanese sushi dishes - very high in free glutamate.

sausages - most supermarkets add MSG to theirs

processed cheese spread


supermarket poultry or turkeys that are injected or "self-basting"

restaurant gravy from food service cans

flavored ramen noodles

instant soup mixes

many salad dressings

most salty, powdered dry food mixes - read labels

flavored potato chips

restaurant soups made from food service soup base or with added MSG

monopotassium glutamate

glutamic acid


hydrolyzed vegetable protein (found in many processed AMERICAN foods, like canned tuna and even hot dogs)

hydrolyzed plant protein (found in many processed AMERICAN foods, like canned tuna and even hot dogs)

autolyzed yeast (found in many processed AMERICAN foods, read labels)

sodium caseinate

textured protein

yeast extract

yeast food or nutrient

soy protein isolate

Worcestershire sauce

Kombu extract

"natural flavors" - may contain up to 20% MSG


dough conditioners

malted barley

malted barley flour - found in many supermarket breads and all-purpose flours including: King Arthur, Heckers, and Gold Medal flour

body builder drink powders containing protein

Parmesan cheese - naturally high in free glutamate

over-ripe tomatoes - naturally high in free glutamate

mushrooms - naturally high in free glutamate

Medications in gelcaps - contain free glutamic acid in the gelatin

Fresh produce sprayed with Auxigro in the field. (Yes the EPA approved this. It appalled us too.)

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I know when My son has had MSG packed foods such as takeaway - it changes him. Last time he was actually quite sick. No more in this house!

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That was an interesting read this stood out:


"food corporations are showing the ultimate in contempt for the food buying public, a contempt which should produce outrage rather than brand loyalty."


If the MSG causes cravings for more MSG like they say then how is this any different than a drug dealer or pharma. It is all the same thing make you want something that is not good for you so they can keep making big bucks.  They get a good life you get shafted. How do they live with themselves?  


I know I react to MSG and long ago went nuts clearing it out of the house but I am not the only one here and slowly it is returning.  Not much I can do about it nobody want to listen even in my own house....all adults here so nothing I can do but not eat it.  It is hard to buy food it is tricky to figure out what to eat too.  The best I have ever felt in withdrawal was when I did a soup sort of diet but I can't maintain it for too long everything I ate was fresh.  Good luck getting out of the house and keeping it out I think you and your family will feel better for it.  


I was thinking about that flow chart I was going to copy long ago... wish I had done it now. :) Was just beyond me at the time... I still have the markers and the bristol board I just need the umph... waiting on that. 


I hope your feeling better Peace B

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I know what you mean btdt...I have all these ideas of making my own sauces etc but I just can't get my head around it. My husband said he is going to help me...make a batch of food on a weekend and freeze it.


If I can - I could put up some recepies here for you. I know I had a chicken in harrisa with butternut squash and red onion tray bake last week and didn't react to it. It only takes 10 minutes to prepare (my husband still had to do it). I wish they had a supermarket that just sold MSG free foods.

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That is an interesting idea and I am going to look for a website that has MSG free food lists...


I did not have the patients just now to read it...not sure if it is me or something about the tone of it put me off.  Likely me I have a head ache AGAIN many days in a row. but a small things all past suffering considered. 

Own list would be good I have a few recipes from the web mostly I eat simple foods so I don't have to worry a lot about it...but there are times I get caught... wonder about that red clover for those times.  If it worked then I would know it is the MSG 

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