alexrosear Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 On 10/7/2019 at 8:17 PM, India said: Cognitive dissonance. Ppl will believe anything before they will believe the meds are anything but benign. I have the chemical lobotomy too. Totally drug induced- my mind was always vibrant! How long have you had it for? I took the zoloft when i was 17 in 2014. so 5 years now. im 22 and my 'proper self' feels like a distant memory. it's hard to imagine being/feeling anthing other than this highly highly reduced/damaged version - i struggle to explain it and people don't believe it because they expect brain damage to mean severe musculuar disruption etc. But I struggle to explain it, it's like most of my brain is missing and my personality and imagination and feelings and self and emotions, the rugs affected my brain in a nuanced and impossible to understand way and sucked the life out of me/my mind, even though i am sill functional in one ense. but people won't believe this and think my issue is that i think there is an issue. how can i ever recover or get better ? if noone understands let alone beleives how i feel - there is no cure or treatment. I've felt this way for years and now it simply feels like its become my unavodiable reality - i feel i am on no steps to recovery regardless of how much i do all the positive things people suggest, get exercise, go to therapy etc. i feel broken, emotonless, depthless, like a zombie essentially with half a mind. Medication History 6/14-Started (50mg) 5 HTP, rescue remedy,kalms,herbal nightol,antihistamine, 7/14-Discontinued 5 HTP 8/14-Took 2 doses of Sertraline (Zoloft) (50mg) 8/14-paracetemol and contiuined 5htp and nightol and rescue remedy - also vitamin b complex 8/14 started 2mg valium 9/14 stopped 2mg valium 10/14 started omega 3 Link to comment
India Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Quoted from one of the members of “let’s talk withdrawal podcast Facebook group” Dr. A Parry is private but recognises adverse reactions/ toxicity from ssri’s. I will reply but in the meantime this could help? Conventional Drs who recognise withdrawal and adverse reactions: U.K. -Dr Healy, Psychiatrist, Wales http://www.benzo.org.uk/healy.htm -Dr Allyson Parry, Neurologist, Oxford -Joanna Moncrieff, Psychiatrist, UCL j.moncrieff@ucl.ac.uk https://joannamoncrieff.com/ -James Davies, Psychotherapist, University of Roehampton https://jamesdaviesauthor.com/ jp.davies@roehampton.ac.uk -Professor Kinderman, Clinical Psychology, University of Liverpool p.kinderman@liverpool.ac.uk U.S. -Dr Paul Breggin psychiatricdrugfacts@hotmail.com -Shapiro -Raymond Singer, Forensic and Clinical Neuropsychologist (Neurotoxicity specialist) http://neurotox.com/ Ray.singer@gmail.com -Julie Holland, Psychiatrist, Pharmacology expert, New York -Dr Sherry Rogers, M.D. Www.prestigepublishing.com No email address. Telephone number yes www.naturalmood.com jholland@inch.com (email address doesn't work) -Dr Glenmullen, http://drglenmullen.com/?page_id=28 No direct email address. Contact through website. -Dr David Hartman drdavidhartman@forensicneuropsychology.net Denmark -Professor Gotzsche, Professor in clinical research design & analysis, and a specialist in internal medicine. pcg@cochrane.dk Functional practitioners/therapies: -Cease homeopathyhttp://www.cease-therapy.com/make-appointment/all-certified-practitioners/united-kingdom -Acupunture and Chinese herbshttps://www.acupuncture.org.uk/component/com_quickfap/view,results/ -Ayurvedic medicinehttp://apa.uk.com/find-a-practitioner -Nutritionists who specialises in genetics and how we metabolise medicationshttps://mthfrsupport.com/find-a-practitioner/https://www.functionalmedicine.org/practitioner_detail.aspx?practitioner_id=40379&ref_page_id=117 -Nutritionisthttps://www.functionalmedicine.org/practitioner_detail.aspx?practitioner_id=55411&ref_page_id=117http://www.lindaburke.co.uk/about-us -Functional medical Drhttps://www.functionalmedicine.org/practitioner_detail.aspx?practitioner_id=18352&ref_page_id=117https://www.functionalmedicine.org/practitioner_detail.aspx?practitioner_id=18439&ref_page_id=117http://invigorateclinic.com/ -Chiropractor plus nutrition https://www.functionalmedicine.org/practitioner_detail.aspx?practitioner_id=9408&ref_page_id=117 American functional practitioners who look into brain stuff/toxins (can probably Skype):http://www.integratedhealthdenver.com/conditions-weve-helped/https://mthfrsupport.com/find-a-practitioner/ Brain training therapy: Ashok Gupta: ART: http://www.guptaprogramme.com/mcs-multiple-chemical-sensitivity-treatment/ Annie Hopper: DNRS: https://retrainingthebrain.com/history/ Robin Shapiro: EMDR: https://www.emdr.com/francine-shapiro-ph-d/ 1999: Paroxetine (20mg). Age 16. 2007-2008: Fluoxetine (Prozac) for 1.5 years (age 25) Citalopram 20mg 2002-2005, 2009: Escitalopram (20mg), 2 weeks, (age 26) (adverse reaction)/*Valium 5mg/Temazepam 10mg 2010: Mirtazipine (Remeron)( do not remember dosage) 2010, 5 months. 2010-2017: Citalopram (20mg) (age 27 to 34) 2016: i.1st Sept- 31st Oct Citalopram 10mg , ii.1st November 2017-30th November 2017, Citalopram 5mg iii.1st December 2017- 4th February 2018, Citalopram 0mg, iv.5th February 2018- March 2018 Citalopram 5mg (10mg every other day) 28th February- tried titration of 5mg ( some adverse effects) 2018: 1st March 2018- 1st June Citalopram 10 mg (tablet form) /started titration 8mg , then 7 mg.2018: June 15th- 10th July Citalopram 10 mg pill every other day 2018: 10th July - 13th Sept Citalopram- 0mg (CBD oil first month of 0mg, passiflora on and off) 2018 13th Sept Citalopram 2mg , approx 16th Sept 4mg , approx 25th Sept 6mg held. 2019: 11 Feb 19: 7mg (instant bad rxn) 12 Feb 19 6mg held 1 May 19 5.4mg held 5 Oct 19 5.36mg 22 Oct 19 5.29mg 30 Oct 19 5.23mg 4/NOV/19 5.18mg 12 Nov 19 5.08mg 20 Nov 19 4.77mg 7 May 22 2.31mg 17/09/2023 0.8mg (Herbal/Supplements since 1st September: Omega Fish Oil 1200mg, 663mg of EPA- 2 tablets a day, magnesium and magnesium bath salts) I did not die, and yet I lost life’s breath - Dante Link to comment
India Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 59 minutes ago, alexrosear said: How long have you had it for? I took the zoloft when i was 17 in 2014. One whole year and counting 😢 It scares me too. I was very creative. , I wrote poetry, I had a specific way of looking at and feeling the world. That depth is gone . I fell in love for a bit— that helped a tiny bit— I felt my body respond but I get what you mean about the zombie like feeling. I see it as a brain injury . I believe you! Many here do. 1999: Paroxetine (20mg). Age 16. 2007-2008: Fluoxetine (Prozac) for 1.5 years (age 25) Citalopram 20mg 2002-2005, 2009: Escitalopram (20mg), 2 weeks, (age 26) (adverse reaction)/*Valium 5mg/Temazepam 10mg 2010: Mirtazipine (Remeron)( do not remember dosage) 2010, 5 months. 2010-2017: Citalopram (20mg) (age 27 to 34) 2016: i.1st Sept- 31st Oct Citalopram 10mg , ii.1st November 2017-30th November 2017, Citalopram 5mg iii.1st December 2017- 4th February 2018, Citalopram 0mg, iv.5th February 2018- March 2018 Citalopram 5mg (10mg every other day) 28th February- tried titration of 5mg ( some adverse effects) 2018: 1st March 2018- 1st June Citalopram 10 mg (tablet form) /started titration 8mg , then 7 mg.2018: June 15th- 10th July Citalopram 10 mg pill every other day 2018: 10th July - 13th Sept Citalopram- 0mg (CBD oil first month of 0mg, passiflora on and off) 2018 13th Sept Citalopram 2mg , approx 16th Sept 4mg , approx 25th Sept 6mg held. 2019: 11 Feb 19: 7mg (instant bad rxn) 12 Feb 19 6mg held 1 May 19 5.4mg held 5 Oct 19 5.36mg 22 Oct 19 5.29mg 30 Oct 19 5.23mg 4/NOV/19 5.18mg 12 Nov 19 5.08mg 20 Nov 19 4.77mg 7 May 22 2.31mg 17/09/2023 0.8mg (Herbal/Supplements since 1st September: Omega Fish Oil 1200mg, 663mg of EPA- 2 tablets a day, magnesium and magnesium bath salts) I did not die, and yet I lost life’s breath - Dante Link to comment
Dewalt Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Hi, Just wanted to say that I also very much relate to how you feel. It's difficult to make choices to make your life better when every emotion is so dulled that it has little importance. I feel more of a need to just have a habitual life and little want for arguments or disagreements with people. I don't care to put my own viewpoint forward as much as I used to. The feelings about it just kind of fly up and vanish. It feels mostly that my inner life is gone and I no longer draw, write, or create much, if at all, and nothing is on par with what I used to create when I do. My internal language is gone. It is so hard to know what to value anymore. Things that have helped me for a time possibly - hard to know because I'm still about 6 months : Amino Acids helped me some with PSSD but some can cause kidney damage so...can't rely on those. Some also increase Herpes outbreaks, which I now have on my face thanks to an unknowing boyfriend, so they may not be a plausible course of action. Not sure if I'll take them again but they did help with desire/motivation and numbness. Strong antibiotics for diverticulitis changed my gut microbiome - and I was able to imagine again. It's not as fluid as it was but I have moments when I can imagine, which is wonderful. I now take probiotics as well as eat yogurt every day. Melatonin has helped me feel a tiny tiny bit more like myself. I don't know if this is a good idea to take or not? I've heard different advice in different antidepressant groups. Listening to music I listened to in high school has helped me regain some sense of self I think. I have little faith in people nor doctors. The worst is friends thinking that this lobotomized version of myself must be better because I'm in less pain - because I feel almost nothing. That makes me feel more alienated and I isolate myself. People understand nothing until they go through it themselves. All drugs last two years: Pamelor(nortriptyline) 1 year total. 10mg 6 months Sept 2017, 20 mg April 2018, tapered 10 mg one month Sept 2018 then off. Lexapro 1.5-2 months before starting a taper. started 10mg Oct 2018, upped to 20mg Nov 2018. Successfully off late June 2019. tapering Lexapro: I tapered by going down about .15 mg every 2-3 days, holding when I feel stressed. Can't remember how I decreased from May but I went off late June on licking a tiny bit of pill powder. Taper was easy after getting below 2.5mg and I felt no change between doses at that time. 3.9mg May 2019 / 5.6mg April 2019 / 7.5mg March 2019 / 9mg Feb 2019 / 10mg Jan 6 2019 -tried tapering from 10mg to 7.5mg from Jan 15-22 and had an extreme reaction, went back up to 10mg, held a few weeks. / 15-10mg Jan 1 2019 / 15mg Dec 2018 / 20-15 Nov?-Dec 2018. Started Lexapro in the beginning of October 2018 (10mg) upped to 20mg in November. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted January 28, 2021 Administrator Share Posted January 28, 2021 @alexrosear how are you doing? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
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