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Hello, this is Jayraycee and I am 16 days free from Effexor. Ive been on ADs since i was 15, 26 years. In May, I was on Celexa 40mg, Amitriptyline 50mg and Effexor 300mg. I decided that my psychiatrist seemed at a loss as to what to do with my continued anxiety, and switched to a new psychiatrist. She immediately, realized the dangers of this combination, to my heart. Had an EKG and discovered three issues, believed to be related to the meds.

That day, May 11th, 2014, I dropped 50% of both the Celexa and the Amitriptyline. By June 11th I was done with both of those. 4 weeks of pretty bad side effects, the usual stuff, nausea, brain zaps mostly. I then, had 1 good week and totally lost it, what I believe was serotonin syndrome, but Dr did not agree. I was inconsolable, hysterical with a freaky deja vu thing happening, over and over. Dr thought Effexor was too high, decreased to 225mg. Then decided, I was done with SSRI's.

Decreased 150, planned to take a break for two months, before I decreased again. 6 weeks later, after continued nausea, GP ran tests because he believed I should be over the nausea. All tests came bacback perfect. I believe that the effexor itself makes me nauseaous. At this point, I decided it was poison to me and I decreased with Psychiatrist ok.

I am 16 days SSRI free. Worst 16 days of my life. Muscle cramping, nausea, head ache, brain zaps, pain in my bones, crying at least 50% of the time, anxiety and just generally scared to death. Two days ago, I noticed a marked improvement, but I am no where near well.

I'm scared to death of what happens now, when I'm just on my own after 26 years of meds. How long will this withdrawl last? Ive been sick every single day, since May 11th. I see no light at the end of this tunnel.

5/14 Celexa 40mg Amitriptyline 50mg Effexor 300mg

5/11/14 C 20mg A 25mg E 300mg

5/20/14 C 10mg A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/4/14 C 0 A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/11/14 A 0, E 300mg

7/20/14 E 225mg

7/29/14 E 150mg

9/14/14 E 75mg

9/24/14 E 37.5mg

10/01/14 E 0

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Hi

I'm no expert and a relatively new member to the site but I feel your pain and have experienced the fear you talk off.

Try to find one small glimmer of hope to hold onto today.

Thinking of you.

Dec 2005 prozac following period of bullying by collegue 2006 changed to Citalapram 20- increased to 40mg

April 2014 decision to come off A.D. Gp appointment swapped to seralatine (lustral)50 as a means of getting off A.D .

raised to 100. 14.7.14 5 weeks taper on doctors recommendation.28th July finished reduction. 4.8.14- 9.9.14 severe withdrawal effects. 13.10.14 reinstatement of 20mg Prozac.dec 2014 started gradual taper 10% every 3 weeks. 14.9.15 1.6 ml currently. Some minor withdrawal effects but holding firm. 10% reduction every 3 weeks. Reached .8 experienced withdrawal symptoms held for longer . 7.4.16 currently on .7ml Prozac. More difficult the lower you go. 25.7.16 holding at .57 ml for a while as period of stress and withdrawal.

2.9.16 Hip operation prescribed codeine and paracetamol for the pain. Stopped after three weeks for fear of addiction. following period of instability and withdrawal symptoms updosed to 1. Ml 28.10.16.

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Hi Jayraycee, your second doctor was right to be concerned, that is a bad combo of drugs in high doses! 

What you experienced when you dropped the doses suddenly would not have been serotonin syndrome

but acute withdrawal symptoms. I actually feel like crying for you because I can feel the pain, and I hate that

the doctors haven't a clue what they are doing. Even the second doctor who saw that the combination was bad

reduced the effexor making things worse because she/he didn't know what to do.  The drug companies do not

educate the doctors and the doctors do not listen to their patients!

 

So now we must look at what can be done now to help the awful symptoms you are having. The only way to stop 

withdrawal is to reinstate the drug that was stopped,  as you have only been off for 2 weeks off  a small dose of just

10 beads from a capsule might help. this small doses may help withdrawal without causing the problems they were

creating at the full doses. Once you have stabilised you can then do a slow taper off those tiny doses.  

 

I am out of time right now and have to dash off so can't get the links up for you but if you look at the tapering section

there is a thread about reinstating. There are also excellent topics in the symptoms and self care forum but I will be back later

or someone else may be in to give you the right info.

**I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge.

 

 

Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem)

1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat

2002  effexor. 

Tapered  March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg  

 July 2017 30mg.  May 15 2018 25mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. 

 

My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

 

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The same as MammaP, I'm very concerned that after 26 years of being on high doses of a few drugs you stopped taking them so quickly. No wonder that you are feeling horrible! 

 

And I'm afraid it will get even worse. I would do as MammaP says: reinstate at leat 10 beads of Effexor although (given that only 4 months ago you were at 300 mg) that might not be enough for you to stabilise. I would do this asap because the longer you wait, the longer it will take to stabilise afterwards. We see people in protracted withdrawal here which lasts for years. Not to mention that you have shortly before that and equally fast stopped taking 2 other drugs. Most people actually don't manage to sustain such level of suffering and they end up on more medication and higher doses but even that doesn't bring a quick relief. 

 

What is antidepressant withdrawal syndrome?

Although medicine avoids recognizing it, there are about 200-300 scientific papers and many anecdotal patient reports that indicate antidepressant withdrawal syndrome:

-- In most cases, is autonomic instability, with probable disinhibition of the locus coeruleus, generating unprecedented symptoms of anxiety, fear, and panic, contributing to a very common unrelenting insomnia
-- Develops in the context of the serotonergic desensitization caused by all antidepressants
-- Is not degenerative or progressive
-- Has a set of symptoms that are fairly common
-- Very gradual, halting recovery pattern

Withdrawal syndrome often causes hypersensitivity to subsequent psychiatric medications, which are usually unhelpful and often exacerbate symptoms.

Tapering off a psychiatric medication too quickly or stopping suddenly ("cold turkey") can lead to prolonged withdrawal syndrome. Recovery can take months or years.

(For scientific papers about withdrawal symptoms, see Diagnosis of antidepressant withdrawal syndrome

 

I'm not sure I have withdrawal symptoms. What are they?

When you withdraw from a neurologically active medication, your nervous system has to adjust back to a normal state. While it is adjusting, you experience withdrawal symptoms.

The autonomic nervous system, which controls the "automatic" functions of the body, is strongly affected. This is one reason withdrawal symptoms are so various.

Withdrawal symptoms can include:
- Electrical feelings in the head or "brain zaps"
- Surges of anxiety, agitation, or excitation
- Hypomania or mania
- Inability to concentrate
- Disorientation
- Dizziness
- Diarrhea
- Sensitivity to light or sound
- Nausea
- Waves of fear or weepy melancholia
- Sleep problems

 

According to medical knowledge, reinstatement is the only way to alleviate withdrawal symptoms: 
http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/3079-about-reinstating-and-stabilizing-to-stop-withdrawal-symptoms/

 

Ask any questions you may have and we will do the best we can to support you.

 

Best,

Bubble

Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2

2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013)

Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 
1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg.
2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg
went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days after
reinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours
28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr  2015 1 mg,  25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64  Xanax     9 month hold

24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26

Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic 

I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. 

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The effezoo makespecially my nausea worse, like bedridden worse. I cannot reinstate. So, I guess my future is bleak as this could last for years? I won't survive it.

5/14 Celexa 40mg Amitriptyline 50mg Effexor 300mg

5/11/14 C 20mg A 25mg E 300mg

5/20/14 C 10mg A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/4/14 C 0 A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/11/14 A 0, E 300mg

7/20/14 E 225mg

7/29/14 E 150mg

9/14/14 E 75mg

9/24/14 E 37.5mg

10/01/14 E 0

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Thank you, unfortunately I read a couple of other comments that have just about broken me! Reinstate people say, but I cannot as the Effexor makes me horribly ill. This quick of a taper, could cause protracted withdrawal, I guess. So, this is my new life. I'm sick on it or sick off it. I think at this point I was better off, thinking I would get through this in the next few weeks. Now I am a complete wreck!

5/14 Celexa 40mg Amitriptyline 50mg Effexor 300mg

5/11/14 C 20mg A 25mg E 300mg

5/20/14 C 10mg A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/4/14 C 0 A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/11/14 A 0, E 300mg

7/20/14 E 225mg

7/29/14 E 150mg

9/14/14 E 75mg

9/24/14 E 37.5mg

10/01/14 E 0

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The effezoo makespecially my nausea worse, like bedridden worse. I cannot reinstate. So, I guess my future is bleak as this could last for years? I won't survive it.

 

I'm very sorry you feel so bad. It seems that my replied scared you :( Nobody knows how long this will last. We are all different with different drug histories and other things. We see people who suffer for years but t doesn't have to be you.

 

Let's wait and see what other members and moderators have to say. I think it is very likely that at lower doses Effexor will not cause you the same side effects as it did at such a high dose as the one you were taking. I know that this is very hard but try to stay calm and don't despair. I failed to see that you mentioned Effexor making you bed ridden with nausea otherwise I would have addressed that issue. 

 

We have one thread per person policy here. That's why I merged your two threads into one. 

Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2

2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013)

Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 
1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg.
2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg
went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days after
reinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours
28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr  2015 1 mg,  25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64  Xanax     9 month hold

24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26

Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic 

I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. 

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So everything I say, I say under this one thread?

5/14 Celexa 40mg Amitriptyline 50mg Effexor 300mg

5/11/14 C 20mg A 25mg E 300mg

5/20/14 C 10mg A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/4/14 C 0 A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/11/14 A 0, E 300mg

7/20/14 E 225mg

7/29/14 E 150mg

9/14/14 E 75mg

9/24/14 E 37.5mg

10/01/14 E 0

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At 17.5mg I am very ill. I will ride it out, before I will poison myself further. Not much of any thing anyone can do for me.

5/14 Celexa 40mg Amitriptyline 50mg Effexor 300mg

5/11/14 C 20mg A 25mg E 300mg

5/20/14 C 10mg A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/4/14 C 0 A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/11/14 A 0, E 300mg

7/20/14 E 225mg

7/29/14 E 150mg

9/14/14 E 75mg

9/24/14 E 37.5mg

10/01/14 E 0

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yes. we all have one thread and in this way have everything in one place.

 

What do you mean by 17.5 mg? Maybe you meant 37.5? You are trying to say that you didn't see any improvement in side effects at lower doses? Please don't despair. I'm sure we can work something out.

 

One other thing came to my mind: how ate you sure that it was Effexor that caused nausea? Do you remember when that symptom occurred? Maybe it was a withdrawal symptom from cutting and discontinuing Celexa and Amitriptyline? 

 

I put these three drugs that you were taking in the drug interactions checker and things didn't look good.

 

nteractions between your selected drugs
interaction-3-big.png amitriptyline ↔ venlafaxine

Applies to: amitriptyline, Effexor (venlafaxine)

Talk to your doctor before using amitriptyline together with venlafaxine. Combining these medications can increase the risk of a rare but serious condition called the serotonin syndrome, which may include symptoms such as confusion, hallucination, seizure, extreme changes in blood pressure, increased heart rate, fever, excessive sweating, shivering or shaking, blurred vision, muscle spasm or stiffness, tremor, incoordination, stomach cramp, nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea. Severe cases may result in coma and even death. You should contact your doctor immediately if you experience these symptoms while taking the medications. It is important to tell your doctor about all other medications you use, including vitamins and herbs. Do not stop using any medications without first talking to your doctor.

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interaction-3-big.png amitriptyline ↔ citalopram

Applies to: amitriptyline, Celexa (citalopram)

Talk to your doctor before using citalopram together with amitriptyline. Combining these medications can increase the risk of a rare but serious condition called the serotonin syndrome, which may include symptoms such as confusion, hallucination, seizure, extreme changes in blood pressure, increased heart rate, fever, excessive sweating, shivering or shaking, blurred vision, muscle spasm or stiffness, tremor, incoordination, stomach cramp, nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea. You should contact your doctor immediately if you experience these symptoms while taking the medications. In addition, you may have an increased risk of developing an irregular heart rhythm that may be serious. Your doctor may be able to prescribe alternatives that do not interact, or you may need a dose adjustment or more frequent monitoring by your doctor to safely use both medications. You should seek immediate medical attention if you develop sudden dizziness, lightheadedness, fainting, shortness of breath, or fast or pounding heartbeats while taking the medications. It is important to tell your doctor about all other medications you use, including vitamins and herbs. Do not stop using any medications without first talking to your doctor.

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interaction-3-big.png venlafaxine ↔ citalopram

Applies to: Effexor (venlafaxine), Celexa (citalopram)

Consumer information for this interaction is not currently available.

GENERALLY AVOID: Citalopram can cause dose-dependent prolongation of the QT interval. Theoretically, coadministration with other agents that can prolong the QT interval including tricyclic antidepressants and other antidepressants (e.g., trazodone) may result in additive effects and increased risk of ventricular arrhythmias such as torsade de pointes and sudden death. In a randomized, double-blind, crossover, escalating multiple-dose study consisting of 119 healthy subjects, the maximum mean increase in corrected QT interval from placebo was 8.5 msec for citalopram 20 mg and 18.5 msec for citalopram 60 mg. Based on the established exposure-response relationship, prolongation of the corrected QT interval was estimated to be 12.6 ms for citalopram 40 mg. Cases of QT interval prolongation and torsade de pointes have been reported during postmarketing use. In general, the risk of an individual agent or a combination of agents causing ventricular arrhythmia in association with QT prolongation is largely unpredictable but may be increased by certain underlying risk factors such as congenital long QT syndrome, cardiac disease, and electrolyte disturbances (e.g., hypokalemia, hypomagnesemia). In addition, the extent of drug-induced QT prolongation is dependent on the particular drug(s) involved and dosage(s) of the drug(s).

When did you start taking these 3 drugs? The interactions between them would very likely cause nausea and not Effexor per se...

Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2

2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013)

Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 
1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg.
2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg
went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days after
reinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours
28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr  2015 1 mg,  25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64  Xanax     9 month hold

24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26

Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic 

I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. 

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I have replied in your thread under Tapering.

Started on Prozac and Xanax in 1992 for PTSD after an assault. One drug led to more, the usual story. Got sicker and sicker, but believed I needed the drugs for my "underlying disease". Long story...lost everything. Life savings, home, physical and mental health, relationships, friendships, ability to work, everything. Amitryptiline, Prozac, bupropion, buspirone, flurazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, Paxil, citalopram, lamotrigine, gabapentin...probably more I've forgotten. 

Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010.  Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea.

 

Feb 15 2010:  300 mg Neurontin  200 Lamictal   10 Celexa      0.65 Xanax   and 5 mg Ambien 

Feb 10 2014:   62 Lamictal    1.1 Celexa         0.135 Xanax    1.8 Valium

Feb 10 2015:   50 Lamictal      0.875 Celexa    0.11 Xanax      1.5 Valium

Feb 15 2016:   47.5 Lamictal   0.75 Celexa      0.0875 Xanax    1.42 Valium    

2/12/20             12                       0.045               0.007                   1 

May 2021            7                       0.01                  0.0037                1

Feb 2022            6                      0!!!                     0.00167               0.98                2.5 mg Ambien

 

I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion.

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Jaycee, I too was very very sick taking 37.5 of effexor. I was mostly bedridden and housebound.

I tried to stop themlike you and had awful withdrawal. I had to go back on 37.5 after just a few days.

2 years later I decided to try and stop them again. I started to taper and I began to feel better. 

As my dose got lower I started to get out more and was not bedridden like I was before.  

 

Sadly it is more difficult for you because you are also in withdrawal from celexa and amitryptilene,

which is making things much harder for you.  I suggested just 10 of the tiny beads from the capsule 

so that it would be gentle for you. If you are not worse with that you could try a little more.  I believe

that you felt really bad because of the withdrawal from celexa and amytriptilene as well as the effexor.

We are all trying to find the best thing that may help you to feel a little better. 

I am so so sorry that you are going through this, and we are here to support you through it. 

**I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge.

 

 

Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem)

1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat

2002  effexor. 

Tapered  March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg  

 July 2017 30mg.  May 15 2018 25mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. 

 

My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

 

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I will not be taking any more of the drug. Reintroducing is not something that I am willing to do. After 4 weeks off Amitriptyline and Celexa, I had one good week. The withdrawal had eased to pretty much nothing. Then the nausea came, no other symptoms, just nausea in the worst way. As I lowered the Effexor it got better, that is why my Dr and I believe it was the Effexor making me sick, as I should have gotten worse nausea as I lowered quickly. So, now my only option is to ride it out. Thank you for trying, though. :)

5/14 Celexa 40mg Amitriptyline 50mg Effexor 300mg

5/11/14 C 20mg A 25mg E 300mg

5/20/14 C 10mg A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/4/14 C 0 A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/11/14 A 0, E 300mg

7/20/14 E 225mg

7/29/14 E 150mg

9/14/14 E 75mg

9/24/14 E 37.5mg

10/01/14 E 0

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I understand that Jaycee and you must do what is right for you. We offer advice based on

our own experiences and what we have seen others go through here, but it is up to you what

you do and we will support you. You will find lots of information in the self help section for

dealing with withdrawal if it becomes troublesome. 

**I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge.

 

 

Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem)

1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat

2002  effexor. 

Tapered  March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg  

 July 2017 30mg.  May 15 2018 25mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. 

 

My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

 

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Jay rays sorry to hear your suffering I was on ads for 40 years I have now been off 5 months after 6 weeks my extremely painful cluster headaches stopped after 8 weeks the flu symptoms stopped after 4 months the brain zaps have stopped and now 5 months on my immsomia has got so much better I do not allow myself to worry that this might take years to recover I take it a day at a time and look for the positives maybe it may take years for me to recover I'm not going to torture myself by feeling sorry for myself no sir I am going to my work I'm doing my meditation and my relaxation and I'm trusting that my next window

will come and who knows what horrible symptom may next go hang in there mate I wish you well

I was originally on 350 mils doxepin started in1975 through the years I tapered down to 100 mils

I stayed on this dose for many years

I have now been off for 7 months ago

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I am now 37 days off all SSRI's and besides a little light headedness, I am doing great! No more withdrawal symptoms! I am doing weekly therapy to deal with past issues and to learn to cope with my anxiety. Not everyone needs to reintroduce, and not everyone will have long withdrawal symptoms! I am very thankful I stuck to my guns and refused to reinstate. Now I'm free of that poison! Now to get free of anxiety! Depression has been minimal and helped greatly by exercise. I noticed a huge difference in how I felt on about day 24. I have been way worse than this, while on THREE meds, so I think, I'm going to be alright! :)

5/14 Celexa 40mg Amitriptyline 50mg Effexor 300mg

5/11/14 C 20mg A 25mg E 300mg

5/20/14 C 10mg A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/4/14 C 0 A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/11/14 A 0, E 300mg

7/20/14 E 225mg

7/29/14 E 150mg

9/14/14 E 75mg

9/24/14 E 37.5mg

10/01/14 E 0

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Oh! Also, what has helped me tremendously is Omega 3 Fatty Acid, Tums, Muscle relaxers for withdrawal muscle and body pains, and Promethazine for the nausea. I'm off both of those now, too!

5/14 Celexa 40mg Amitriptyline 50mg Effexor 300mg

5/11/14 C 20mg A 25mg E 300mg

5/20/14 C 10mg A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/4/14 C 0 A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/11/14 A 0, E 300mg

7/20/14 E 225mg

7/29/14 E 150mg

9/14/14 E 75mg

9/24/14 E 37.5mg

10/01/14 E 0

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I am very glad that you are doing so much better and thank you for updating us.

 

Please let us know about how you are doing after some time.

 

Best,

Bubble

Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2

2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013)

Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 
1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg.
2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg
went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days after
reinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours
28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr  2015 1 mg,  25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64  Xanax     9 month hold

24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26

Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic 

I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. 

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2 months off, doing good! Therapy helps a TON! No discontinuation symptoms, and back to the gym after 6 months!

5/14 Celexa 40mg Amitriptyline 50mg Effexor 300mg

5/11/14 C 20mg A 25mg E 300mg

5/20/14 C 10mg A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/4/14 C 0 A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/11/14 A 0, E 300mg

7/20/14 E 225mg

7/29/14 E 150mg

9/14/14 E 75mg

9/24/14 E 37.5mg

10/01/14 E 0

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That's great news, Jayraycee. How are you doing now?

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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