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I was on a dangerous amount of drugs. New psychiatrist saw this, EKG abnormal. From May to Oct, dropped 300mg Effexor, 50mg Amitriptyline and 40mg Celexa. I cannot reinstate, the Effexor I've been off 17 days, it makes me horrifically sick, without those other drugs. It gives me nausea so bad that, even with anti nausea pills, I am pretty much bedridden. So, I'm just out here floating around, several people advise reinstate, I cannot. And I will never put any moresponses of this life robbing poison in my body. So, I guess I have years of withdrawal to look forward to. I do not think I can do that. My nausea meds are soon to run out, and my Dr wants me to see GI to get a refill, makes me so mad! Nothing is wrong with my GI tract!

5/14 Celexa 40mg Amitriptyline 50mg Effexor 300mg

5/11/14 C 20mg A 25mg E 300mg

5/20/14 C 10mg A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/4/14 C 0 A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/11/14 A 0, E 300mg

7/20/14 E 225mg

7/29/14 E 150mg

9/14/14 E 75mg

9/24/14 E 37.5mg

10/01/14 E 0

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We have found that often a very low dose can alleviate withdrawal symptoms a bit without causing the same bad effects that the drug caused at standard doses. For example, 3-5 mg of Effexor.

 

From time to time we have people who experience severe toxic reactions to even tiny doses of a drug. There is no simple solution in those situations. 

 

However, most people find they can tolerate very small doses much better than the larger doses. 

 

If you refuse to even consider reinstatement, we have no magical solution for the withdrawal you are going through. (And a small reinstatement itself is far from a magical solution, it only takes the edge off.) You can look through our Symptoms and Self Care section for ideas about how to deal with some of the symptoms.

 

Given that you're still in the throes of withdrawal from Celexa and amitriptyline as well, if I were in your shoes I would definitely try a reinstatement of a small dose of Effexor. Please consider that your judgment may not be as clear as you would like it to be, right now, in your condition (and I say that only as one who has definitely been there!) I would hate for you to make a decision that you will regret for many years to come. At least take a few days and think about it.

Started on Prozac and Xanax in 1992 for PTSD after an assault. One drug led to more, the usual story. Got sicker and sicker, but believed I needed the drugs for my "underlying disease". Long story...lost everything. Life savings, home, physical and mental health, relationships, friendships, ability to work, everything. Amitryptiline, Prozac, bupropion, buspirone, flurazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, Paxil, citalopram, lamotrigine, gabapentin...probably more I've forgotten. 

Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010.  Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea.

 

Feb 15 2010:  300 mg Neurontin  200 Lamictal   10 Celexa      0.65 Xanax   and 5 mg Ambien 

Feb 10 2014:   62 Lamictal    1.1 Celexa         0.135 Xanax    1.8 Valium

Feb 10 2015:   50 Lamictal      0.875 Celexa    0.11 Xanax      1.5 Valium

Feb 15 2016:   47.5 Lamictal   0.75 Celexa      0.0875 Xanax    1.42 Valium    

2/12/20             12                       0.045               0.007                   1 

May 2021            7                       0.01                  0.0037                1

Feb 2022            6                      0!!!                     0.00167               0.98                2.5 mg Ambien

Oct 2022       4.5 mg Lamictal    (off Celexa, off Xanax)   0.95 Valium    Ambien, 1/4 to 1/2 of a 5 mg tablet 

 

I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion.

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Do you really believe that if I reinstate a few mg, that it win change the amount of time that I have withdrawal symptoms? And then what? I'm tied to take less and less grains for the next ten months? I am getting noticeably better after the first two weeks. I though this was a site about getting off this substance that should be illegal. So far everyone has tried to get me to go back on the drugs. I'll be on my own now, just please try to be more understanding the next time someone comes to you with the inability to reinstate poison!

5/14 Celexa 40mg Amitriptyline 50mg Effexor 300mg

5/11/14 C 20mg A 25mg E 300mg

5/20/14 C 10mg A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/4/14 C 0 A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/11/14 A 0, E 300mg

7/20/14 E 225mg

7/29/14 E 150mg

9/14/14 E 75mg

9/24/14 E 37.5mg

10/01/14 E 0

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Good to hear you're feeling better, jayraycee.

 

Reinstatement of a drug is standard medical practice for severe withdrawal syndrome. It can alleviate symptoms, but it's not guaranteed to work.

 

Otherwise, you just have to deal with withdrawal syndrome for however long it lasts, which can be weeks, months, or years, there's no predicting.

 

If you don't care to try reinstatement, you don't have to -- but there's no reason for you to be rude to the volunteer staff here, particularly if you want us to support you while you heal.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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There was nothing rude in my statement.

5/14 Celexa 40mg Amitriptyline 50mg Effexor 300mg

5/11/14 C 20mg A 25mg E 300mg

5/20/14 C 10mg A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/4/14 C 0 A 12.5mg E 300mg

6/11/14 A 0, E 300mg

7/20/14 E 225mg

7/29/14 E 150mg

9/14/14 E 75mg

9/24/14 E 37.5mg

10/01/14 E 0

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A properly worded apology would be something like: I'm sorry I didn't mean to be rude...

Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2

2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013)

Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 
1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg.
2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg
went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days after
reinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours
28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr  2015 1 mg,  25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64  Xanax     9 month hold

24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26

Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic 

I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. 

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