success ☼ ang: help and confidence needed

[Hopefull]

Hi Ang,

Try Paulas Choice Australia.

Great skin care products.

Vitamin A creams, AHA products etc.

Not too pricy.

Best wishes, Hopefull.

[ang]

Thankyou hopefull...........  much appreciated.  I went outside yesterday and had a chat with the neighbour.  I havent been outside for weeks....  10minutes, my face was nearly sunburnt.  Seemed to help the skin problems a little though.

 

Am trying zinc, and the hemp seed oil..... if that doesnt work, will try your suggestion.  thankyou.

 

I refuse to wear makeup to cover it, now I am not working, the makeup makes it worse, and my eyes, just hate makeup, cant wear mascara anymore, even the face makeup seems to make its way into my eyes.  

[ang]

Well, I feel like I did the very, very first antidepressant I was ever on aged 35?   Dothiepin, worked till I got serotonin syndrome from 375 mg dose,  and I had never, ever previously touched drugs.  Anyway need to adjust dosage, on my new herbs....   I feel fine upon waking, I take dose,   I feel fine, then 3 hours later, I am sort of like I felt when the dothiepin first started to work, like pinging around a bit, but always, all day, finally heaven to feel well. I am now adjusting dose to three times a day.   One morning dose of a grain of rice is too high for me, so will try three times a day, around half,3/4 size of a grain of rice.   Will stick to same total dose a day.......   Dont want to upset my new found heaven,,,,,, running on 80%?   Thank you god, thankyou Cannabis, thankyou anyone.........................  and of course cutting all the other drugs, at the same time.... 

 

I  am reducing dose of SJW, two one day three the next,as the sudden cut from 3 to two, was a bit unsettling......  already cut seroquel from 100-150 per day, to 75 mg regularly, and dont need the stuff, in the morning, to be able to get out of damn bed!  If i continue to sleep well, for only 8 hours instead of damn 12!!!   will cut the seroquel, as I use that as a sedative.  Dont sleep, ya go crazy. 

 

I hope to study medicinal cannabis in University of Vermont, or on line, 2016.  If a woman on disability support pension, with a passion for learning, can do this, anything is possible   follow your passion,your dreams...

 

I have regained my brain... I used to have a brilliant brain.......lost it for 8 years.......... I am passionate about learning............ no not education    learning.

 

Wish me well, friends in USA!  and everywhere!   

 

New information will only be posted now in CBD oil section, for members of this website only.........................  Hugs everyone.......... I been thru hell, and my advice is you in hell, keep walking.......... YES YOU WILL GET WELL,   however you find your path, IT WILL HAPPEN.......  mine is CBD oil, yours could be anything, we are all genetically different, we all have different drug histories............  all I can say is CBD is working FOR ME>             there are many ways to get well, we all have a different jouney, a different life story, different genetics.

 

So merry christmas to you all,  if my new found relief, only lasts two more weeks, will be my first christmas in three years, that I can enjoy,  so live life for the moment,  and I wish everyone healing....   if you are having a horrifc stressful christmas, truly believe next one will be lovely.

 

Hugs to you all.......   Have a great one Alto!   you are my hero, you created this site, you keep it running, you are helping so many!  So anyone with spare cash?  sure the people running this site would appreciate a christmas donation..... I will be supporting, as I now feel well..................and I owe my life to this support group.

[btdt]

Good luck Ang and I wish you all the best tho I am a huge chicken perhaps given very poor advice to you in my last post.  We are all different.. in some ways. 

I wish you peace

[ang]

Well just realised my 12 month aniversary of this support group has passed.  So grateful for the continuous reminding, during those horrific 12 months, to keep walking, step by step, inch by inch.   During severe anxiety, and all those other horrible brain tortures,  just take it day by day, if I couldnt do that,there has always been a friend to support me, and encourage me......... just take it day by day,if that was too hard,  take it hour by hour, and of course, sometimes it becomes minute by minute.  Every minute that passes is a journey to healing.   I am so happy to be having my first big window....  and at Christmas! I pray it lasts another full week.  If it doesnt, I have had a nice taste of the future, for me.

 

So wishing everyone a window, for Christmas........ but if it doesnt happen for you, next Christmas, will be better........

 

Hugs to you all

 

Angela

[ang]

Went into Bunnings today, and realised,  my sense of smell is back.........    It disappeared on ADS,   was getting better during the last 12 months  (yep could smell my horrible own body odour, from not showering, yuck)......   but today in Bunnings, feeling better, the smells were overpowering,  the stink of the rubber mats, the smell of the paint,   wow!~ So I definitely have to shower every day now  

[btdt]

I over smell too much it makes me ill some stores or parts of stores I can't go to cause of this.  perfume = yuck to me 

 

just so you know it can be good or bad..

peace B

[ang]

Yes, the smell of a stack of rubber mats made me nauseaus.  I still think it is a good thing.    Would happily trade for better hearing and eyesight!  

[ang]

Well, had an OK Christma, now running on about 30%.............    seems my miracle cure, isnt a miracle cure at this stage...........  oh well, maybe just time....   maybe next Christmas i will be better?

[AliG]

Ang,

 

It seems, there really are no miracle cures for this process .  Time, patience and acceptance seem to be the key elements to adopt , and come to terms with , at this time. This can be a hard lesson to learn,and acknowledge, but there is no other way forward that I can see . Given what we now, know , anything short of this is a step backwards. In other words, we know too much , to go back ! ( to drugs).  Therefore, there really is no choice , but to keep going.

 

" If you're going through hell, keep going "       Winston Churchill .

 

I hope you have a window again , soon, Ang.

 

Ali

[ang]

Some records indicate that from 1966 to 1969, the U.S. Army dispensed more amphetamine to its troops than the combined total of British and American forces during the entire Second World War. As one veteran of Vietnam put it on an Internet citation, "Take 100 non-aggressive men and give them all enough speed and you end up with the equivalent of 150 men that'll kill anything that moves and if they have to, they'll kill it with their bare hands." Biographers of war crimes committed by troops from various nations throughout the history of modern warfare believe the most heinous acts were the result of the maniacal effects of amphetamines. 

Today amphetamine use in the military continues under the current market name of Adderall. Dextroamphetamine is dispensed by the Air Force to keep pilots awake and alert on long missions. Air Force pilots must sign a form called "Informed Consent for Use of Dextroamphetamine as a 'Go Pill' in Military Operations." Although taking the drug is not technically mandatory, as the form states, a refusal to sign the form could result in a commander designating them as 'unfit to fly a given mission'.

 

Isnt this all interesting............. I am researching valium... I know it sends me nuts,  my father suicided in 1966, two days before Christmas.  I know he couldnt sleep... Now I find that Valium was the new ubeaut drug in Western Australia around 1965     (1962, italy      1963  USA.......  one would assume Australia 1965)

Isnt it interesting, now how many people believe they have mental illness in their family, when actually they dont.   I have no doubt in my mind that the local doc, would have prescribed Valium (Diazepam), to my father, and I believe, knowing how it affects me, this would have directly led to his death.

[ang]

Hi AliG,    I am giving up alcohol again, now Christmas is over.   Anyhow enjoyed a nice red last night, and am feeling about 40%....   anyhow, still better than I was before the CBD oil............ I can cook, clean, a bit, and do the dishes.  Maybe Christmas is always a bit of a strain, loved seeing my daughter, but she was looking at old photos, and talking about stuff, I would rather not think about.  Will keep takiing it, as it doesnt seem to have any side effects.....  and I still got 7ml out of the original 10ml.......so should last me 2-3 months all told.

 

Would be nice to fell 80% again, hope it happens soon.

[ang]

So hard to deal with the fact, the only fact, I got put on this garbage, then got those "labels"" that come back to haunt, even when you go to a gp for damn exhaustion  (yep another psych drug!  aggghh!).  so hard to deal with, my only problem is horrific reaction to valium  (diazepam)........... sends me psychotic.     Happened 20 years ago, doctors denied that........ (I suppose as they would, as they only gave me one damn tablet?)...........  Wehn the same thing happened Christamas, 2013, I knew the truth............     so all those years, thinking I had a problem, all those years, my sister was so convinced she had a problem, all stemming from our fathers suicide in 1966........ that I now know in my heart, was caused by the drug of the day, damn valium.

How many people are convinced they have a mental health issue in the family,   and have no idea, that a drug, may have caused the first...................  RIP Eric Eisenhauer...... you never were mad, just react to valium the same way your daughter does 

 

I have tried to warn my brothers and sisters, they dont listen, it will happen, if their kids, have mine, or my dads genetics, the same, and they take this stuff........   hopefully, when it happens, they might remember what a nutty sister, told them years ago?

 

Anyone else had a horrific reaction to valium?   I run like a horse on 1/4 tablet, cant stop for days........    One whole tablet, psychotic.

[direstraits]

sorry what happened to your Dad,Ang...must have been awful for you as a child.

 

let's hope 2016 is much better for us all!

 

love and hugs, ds

[ang]

Thanks Direstraits..     But that was what was stupid, his kids then got convinced, that this mental illness called depression is genetic.   I never believed that  .........   my sister did,   she wanted something to blame for feeling bad,  and she felt bad, because of the antidepressants, vicious circle......................

Now I know, that he most probably took a valiium, if it did to him what it does to me, he had no mental illness, he had no depression............     the drug sent him nuts.  I was only six, but I still remember, he acted weird, , and couldnt sleep.... that was not the normal him.

 

Valium released 1962 in Italy, 1963 in USA........... timing is perfect....... 1966 Australia?   I can imagine the fanfare, of this new wonder drug.  Supposed to sedate, he couldnt sleep.....  but like me, valium does the opposite, I cant sleep for days, I go psychotic...........           poor man.....poor Dad.   Yet for my mother, valium works, so she had no idea either.

Even then they never blamed the drug, just blamed the person.    

I read some of David Healys book,   in it he says 20% of people, will have the opposite reaction, to the other 80% in how they react to a drug........ this gets ignored, if it makes you worse, they just up the dose, or add more tablets.                

 

Weird thing is I can tolerate temazepam, which is a metabolite, when valium breaks down...........   but I will never ever touch a benzo again, now I know the truth.

[ang]

In a wave, horrible.........   but not as bad as they used to be............

 

I didnt believe in these waves and windows,  I do now.........   so all I can do, is try and cook, try and shower, sit at the computer, and ride it out.

 

I dont even want to watch tv!     Horrible!

[btdt]

It sure seems a lot of things are coming to light for you just now while it may be good in one way it is sad in another. This sort of awakening happened to me too long ago and it takes time to process.  When you really not at your best to start it is important to be kind to yourself and look for self care ideas you can manage.  That is my advise I am sorry your father got caught in the trap but I am happy the pieces to truth are falling into place.  Take good care of you Ang and a better year ahead. 

Peace to you B

[ang]

thanks BTDT   You feel like my rock in a wild ocean,  commonsense, and much appreciated.  And thankyou so, so much for reading my posts....

 

Yes I know, after years of my brain being  "dumbed down"""  I know it is just a side effect of not being on meds now, my brain just is not stopping,,,, but that is fine,  I used to be like this....   and if I am a little more so, just rebound effect.  

 

I upped the CBD oil, that I reduced, just a bit, so seems I have found the correct balance for me.   Feeling chirpier today, actually did the dishes!  

 

Got new  oils to try today......    If I get enough enthusiasm to damn move!  I will be grateful, then things will  just take their time for full healing...............   and if I feel well enough will happily sit on my butt still for most of day, and start damn writing my book.

 

I guess I feel like the famous Japanese artists of years ago.... they sat and looked, for months, then painted in a few minutes.....

I will sit and think, for years,  and write my book in a few months.  

[AliG]

Hi Ang. Do you feel  the CBD oil is helping?  What are these other oils you are trialing ?  You are sounding a little better. Let us know how you go. 

 

Quote:   I guess I feel like the famous Japanese artists of years ago.... they sat and looked, for months, then painted in a few minutes.....

I will sit and think, for years,  and write my book in a few months.

 

LOL. I will do the same with my painting.  

Ali

[ang]

Hi AliG,   I joined the online group  Medicinal Cannabis Users Australia     MCUA   is a friendly, lovely on-line group.... Have made some new friends, and joined a few other medicinal cannabis sites also.    The first CBD oil I got, yes did help,  but them I stupidly dropped other medication, and had a few rocky weeks,   I then used too much CBD oil, and just sat of my butt, doing nothing.........    then I cut the dose, too much, and the ruminations started again   aggghhh!  so anyhow got that dose right now....   I needed only about 3 rice grain doses a day.   

However, now I have the new tinctures,  one is the Charlottes web, strain,,  ie near all CBD oil, as a tincture.   Like a nice thick oil in a 50ml bottle.  This oil is made from medicinal cannabis plants, unlike my endoca  (thick syringe oil)..which is merely the by product of industrail hemp  (I am learning, so hope all this is correct).

I also got a 50ml bottle of THC oil   which is also from medicinal cannabis, as the THC is THCa   it is not psychoactive.    I assume if it was put in a vaporisor and heated, the THCa, turns to THC  (carboxylated, ie heated to remove the carbon from the THCa)...then it would probably be psychoactive?  I dont know, and not interested in smoking, nor vaporising it...... I have taken it 15 drops of each bottle, twice today.............   It is now 2 hours after second dose, and I certainly dont feel high........    so all my friends on the many, many medicinal cannabis on-line groups I have joined, yes their information is brilliant!!         

I feel a bit like the anti vaxxers say................   we all started off accepting vaccines,   then next step is thinking, hey, maybe all of these vaccines are not all good,  then next step, all vaccines are bad!

bit like the medicinal cannabis,   agghhh!  cannabis is evil,   then oh, maybe it isnt the CBD industrial hemp stuff is OK,  then wow, real medicinal cannabis oil, from whole plant oils, are great!

 

Hope that answers everyones questions!

 

tomorrow, I have promised son I will go shopping with him, he also needs new clothes..........  I went for a 1km walk today, and washed the sheets, so yes, a good day.  I dont want to change anything that I did today until after tomorrow, then I will see how I feel,   all new learning curve, and hope I stay well,  if I go shopping tomorrow, that will be great.

 

I am hoping to stay well enough to go fishing with two sons, on Saturday,  I will keep ya posted  

[ang]

However, what serotonin actually does is create a hardening of the self and an unconflicted selfishness.  (So adding Serotonin, makes this worse)... It intensifies an emotional hardening toward others. When fighting, you are hard and cruel. Your enemy is an “it,” not a person. There is an attitude of coldness and hatred toward your adversary. This amplifies the emotional reality of the invisible sadomasochistic personas. The escalated hardness and coldness from adding in extra fuel for aggression is often experienced as feeling good. This is due to the fact that there is no conflict over hurtfulness. This has been numbed. To heal from cruelty, you have to feel the appropriate remorse and regret.                    

This is so spot on to me......  I am grieving still,  over the loss caused by effexor.   I understand it.  I was a cold cruel, heartless person, I could do not wrong, could spend money with absolutely no guilt, upset others, and not feel compassion                           .... and yes I still feel immense guilt for this, it is like an awakening back to my old self...........      So wonderful to have the chance to re find my old self, the one with compassion....... yes I had a very selfish husband, but the ADs made me strong, tough, selfish, hard and cruel, of course our marriage broke,  not because of him  (gosh I had tolerated him from age of 16)............  why separate after 30 years? I was the one who changed.                 Maybe we would have split, who knows.......... but I wasnt the person he married, by the time we split.

 

Anyway, too late now, I just need to grieve a bit longer, then move on.  It is a process, no amount of herbs will heal this process.  I am just so grateful to find the me re emerging!   Anyway reference to the quote above is;   

 

https://www.madinamerica.com/2016/01/smashing-the-neurotransmitter-myth-how-why-antidepressants-cause-suicides-mass-murders/

[ang]

AliG,   I went shopping and two days in a row went for a 1km walk, so a beginning.   Still then I want more, and feel guilty because I dont do more!   I was meant to go fishing today, and was so anxious about it, then son was not well, so we didnt go.  I used to love fishing, but I just cant seem to get that  ""I am so looking forward to enjoy............  whatever""  feeling.  It just isnt there............  instead I just get so anxious!

 

I got some more different Cannabis oils,  tinctures, and am trying to see if they help better than the straight CBD thick oil  ...             The tinctures are definitely made from medicinal cannabis strains.           Most of the CBD thick oils that are imported are the byproducts from Industrial hemp......

 

The whole cannabis oil thing is really confusing...........  playing around with it, isnt making me any worse, but not sure if it is making me better either.  My main plan was to use it to help me get off the seroquel........        Damn I felt so good December, I stupidly cut the seroquel from 75mg to 50, and upset everything   (I still making that silly mistake!!)...               So monday, will see about proper reductions, from a compounding chemist.    Chopping up a 100mg  is not very accurate, and adding to my problems..                                                  

[btdt]

I don't know much about seroquil so can't say anything I have read that pot can cause anxiety and who would know the difference in wd... nobody could tell. 

I react to so many things it is insane... perfume cleaners smell of food I am scared to death to take any new drug of any kind.  Many people have suggested to me that the medical cannibis would be helpful and for some reason every time I see a specialist they ask me if I am on it or have tried it... as far as I know we don't have oils here but I have not looked maybe we do.  I am just to scared to try anything else as I react to so many normal things like shampoo and tooth paste... for crying out loud it is crazy. 

 

It never fails to amaze me how different people in wd are and how different we can be in early wd compared to late wd... this is a very odd experience that is for sure. 

 

I am looking forward to you book..  

Keep on keeping on and peace B

[ang]

Hi Btdt,  I am not having a very good day....  I tend to agree with you at the moment.    Nothing helps in wd, except time.

 

Interesting the specialists ask if you have tried Cannabis oils........

 

So how did early withdrawal feel compared to late withdrawal,   I need some hope, that overall I am improving?    I dont think I will even attempt the cut in seroquel for a couple of months yet. 

 

having zero appetite does not help, and cravings for fizzy drinks, insane.

 

STay well Btdt.

[manymoretodays]

Well ang.  I got to page 3.  Just marking so I can finish later.

 

Hoping you are into healing sleep.

[btdt]

Early on I was in stuper and really physically ill really really ill ... hosp all the time even went to other cities as I was sure this had to be a common thing they were missing... felt I was dying.. I took cabs I could not drive.  It was long blur of doctors vomiting sweating freezing twitching brain zaps pain... confusion and many other brain issues.  I really don't like to talk about it as it has marked me in such a profound way to think of it makes me uneasy and puts me in a bad frame of mind just to think of it... or write about it... so I try not to.  Anyone who was at pp in the old days can tell you I was a mess and I did not get well enough to find and talk there till I was 8 months into cold turkey.  In early wd I could not sign into my email and a friend watching said you can't recall your password... I did not say but the truth was I could not type my name.  It was bad like that. 

 

I got much better after a year or so .... then I seemed to take a bad turn at 18 months off just when I thought healing was more or less..kind of but had waves linear and I was on my way out ... that shift hit hard as I was watching everyone else at pp seemingly heal in a linear way and being done by 2-3 years that is what we thought then...most of them or us... however you want to say it.  Then there were a few who had been much longer than 3 years and were not done... and they were not very welcomed on that particular site... if you were not healed in 3 years maybe it was a psych problem after all even tho the symptoms were not all psych related... you know how that goes well maybe you don't blame the victim... you know it well most of us do.  When I brought up how well I had been before I crashed at 18 months I was ridiculed and other were afraid to admit it after that...but they pm me and said hey me too so it was not just me but there has not been much mention of it here tho I started a thread about it a few years ago.... then it was up and down...inching toward health maybe lets say it is.  There are a lot of twists and turns in my story and there more trials for some depending on where you are at when you start healing... some of us started in a very low place so we have higher to climb - as in we lost our security money homes... you know what I mean everything is harder in that respect. 

 

I want to get back to why I came here today there was a person die in a drug trial in France and I went there to read about and learned it was related to pot so I looked up what affect it has on mitochondia... cause I think mito damage is a big part of this... while I did not understand it maybe you will so here it is. 

wishing you peace

 

Cannabinoid-induced changes in respiration of brain mitochondria.

Fišar Z1, Singh N2, Hroudová J3.

Author information

 

Abstract

Cannabinoids exert various biological effects that are either receptor-mediated or independent of receptor signaling. Mitochondrial effects of cannabinoids were interpreted either as non-receptor-mediated alteration of mitochondrial membranes, or as indirect consequences of activation of plasma membrane type 1 cannabinoid receptors (CB1). Recently, CB1 receptors were confirmed to be localized to the membranes of neuronal mitochondria, where their activation directly regulates respiration and energy production. Here, we performed in-depth analysis of cannabinoid-induced changes of mitochondrial respiration using both an antagonist/inverse agonist of CB1 receptors, AM251 and the cannabinoid receptor agonists, Δ(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), cannabidiol, anandamide, and WIN 55,212-2. Relationships were determined between cannabinoid concentration and respiratory rate driven by substrates of complex I, II or IV in pig brain mitochondria. Either full or partial inhibition of respiratory rate was found for the tested drugs, with an IC50 in the micromolar range, which verified the significant role of non-receptor-mediated mechanism in inhibiting mitochondrial respiration. Effect of stepwise application of THC and AM251 evidenced protective role of AM251 and corroborated the participation of CB1 receptor activation in the inhibition of mitochondrial respiration. We proposed a model, which includes both receptor- and non-receptor-mediated mechanisms of cannabinoid action on mitochondrial respiration. This model explains both the inhibitory effect of cannabinoids and the protective effect of the CB1 receptor inverse agonist.

Copyright © 2014 Elsevier Ireland Ltd. All rights reserved.

KEYWORDS:

AM251; Anandamide; Cannabidiol; Respiratory rate; WIN 55,212-2; Δ(9)-Tetrahydrocannabinol

[ang]

Thanks so much  btdt                 The trial in France had nothing to do with pot..                     Just because they were working on something to do with affecting cannaboid receptors for a painkiller,   of course the journos said it was cannabis, no it wasnt.            Apparently cannabis has never ever killed anyone.     \\      We all know that pharma drug trials do.... not unusual for some people to die in trials.

 

I will read your links later, thankyou.   gosh have a job interview tomorrow, hope I am well enough to get there.  

[ang]

Oh, I got a job interview today!          I went there, without fear!!  I enjoyed the drive there, I drove myself, I had no anxiety during interview...............   wish me luck people,  I would so enjoy this job......... six months relief, but a great company, I just need the foot in the door.

 

I am learning how to use my cannabis meds, not too much not too little, just getting it right.

 

And as I have found, getting it wrong?  Only one or two days off the stuff, try again, and get it right............ a learning curve.   Wish me luck ,  with this job.........   Hope I get it!

[btdt]

Good luck I hope you get all you want!  

Going to an interview would be reason enough for congratulations I truly don't know how you do it... my hat is off to you Ang.

peace 

[brassmonkey]

You're making some great moves Ang, best of luck with the job interview.

[direstraits]

hope you get the job,Ang!

 

you're doing great!  xo

[manymoretodays]

I almost bought some hemp liquid drink tonight......lol..........different I know from cannaboid or ois but interesting they had it.

 

Hope you got it, the job.  Good distractions those jobs seem to be.    Oh, plus the money factor.

[ang]

Manymoredays,  you mean the hemp SEED oil?  That is really good, healthy like fish oil, better I think.    

 

I have actually sort of attempted to cook a meal, about every other day..........

 

Oh I am so hoping I get the job, I feel confident enough to handle it...............  hope I stay feeling that way.  It is 6 months relief,  that is fantastic, because hopefully less others competing for the job.

 

btdt, brassmonkey,direstraights, et al                      One day I couldnt handle it, then I get a phone call, I say I am yes, very interested, next day actually enjoyed the interview...........   no fear!!!!!!!!    omg I just thanked god for such a good day, regardless of whether I get the job.......   I was greatful for the day, to actually feel confident, without the horrific fear and anxiety.

 

Hugs to you all

 

Ang x

[brassmonkey]

Just shows you the power of a good distraction.

 

XX X XX  all fingers crossed for luck.

[ang]

Dont think I got the job, would have heard by now........ oh well.

 

Just browsing through the TGA adverse events site   (yeah a worry I am)

Apparently from 1971 to 2015,    44 years     guess how many people got addiction problems to diazepam  (valium, etc, ect)...... 1 every two years.   (Withdrawal syndrome also about 1 every two years) 

Apparently only 41 people in Australia in 45 years, have ever had a problem getting off valium  (diazepam).  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Zoloft, however, showed addiction problems  (withdrawal syndrome) on average once a week (reported)...............     This makes SSRIs, according to official records, over 40 times more addictive than a benzo  (Valium).

 

 

Is interesting that at least since 1997..........   withdrawal syndrome is listed, as adverse event,  in the case of zoloft, it was listed as occuring every 2 weeks ie 24 times for 1997,  by 1998 this was happening every one week, ie side effect of withdrawal syndrome.           TGA lists this as  

 

 Main Entry: withdrawal symptom

Function: noun

: one of a group of symptoms (as nausea, sweating, or depression) produced in a person by deprivation of an addicting drug

[btdt]

I read that prozac had the most reported adverse reaction of any drug in history.  Prozac won by a huge margin like ten thousand to one... one would think that would be a clue as to what was to come.  It is not that they did not know they knew they just didn't give a ****.  I have spent countless hours looking back at the history of these drugs not just online but reading books ect in the past 8 years I have read myself silly when I was able to read and I have come to the conclusion that nothing has changed and nothing will change until the changes are forced... the only way we can control any of this is not to take any more drugs.  I don't know about other people here but I have severe drug reactions post ssri use to drugs I was fine with post ssri use... things I apparently need like antibiotics ect.  something has changed it is mostly drug reactions that keep me down at this point ... as far as I can tell as I have them so often it is difficult to assess how I am without a reaction.. the reactions are long standing once they hit it takes months to recover and get back to baseline after a reaction.  Did not mean to go on so on your thread Ang ... so I will stop. 

Hope your well  

peace