Mentor ang Posted February 19, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 19, 2015 Thankyou everyone for your input, you are all wonderful.......... I checked my hormone results, and all my blood test results taken three weeks ago. I am deficient in Oestradiol (estrogen).... my level should be 40-130...... my results just say <40.............. I have contacted Australian Menopause something or other. Am waiting for the doctor to return my call, but not expecting that to happen in a hurry. I am hoping the call to his surgery will be enough for him to write a script....am not well enough to make an appointment to see him again....he has the results, of the blood tests......... should just write a script surely? If I feel better, then I will be able to go and see him. I also asked for copies of my FBC Full blood count, which I havent received yet. Just want to make sure that is OK, after 10 years on these poisons.... ( A side effect is low White Cell, Low Red Cells, and if bad enough, eventually the body is unable to manufacture its own blood (yes death sentence, stuff). A lady in USA sued big time, but never got to see the profits, of course. She only survived two years.) I do not think my lethargy, fatigue is linked, but who knows? I do have quite yellow eyes? Anaemia? Getting the results will let me know. I was a lab assistant, pathology, and a phlebotomist, and also chemical analyst..........I used to take blood tests, and analyse them... ( before effexor, made me unemployable.) That is the job i hope I am well enough to get.... So I understand all the test results, just so damn surprised the doctor was not alerted to the fact my estrogen levels aren't up to scratch. Other poor results have been highlighted. (Might send an email to Pathwest, one day ......maybe they can correct the glitch in their result reporting. ) Anyhow, I am feeling 10% today, that is a window for me. Maybe it is the placebo effect of hoping estrogen supplementation will fix me? Side effects of low estrogen are high LDL, and depression and anxiety and fatigue, dry skin..... all that stuff................ Anyone else had clinically tested low estrogen... did supplementation help for anxiety fatigue depression, fear? 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
btdt Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Yellow eyes to me means your liver is not working right. As for hormones mine were all over the map just before I quit effexor.. I had six tests in six months due to travelling around trying to get some help from different doctors in different cities as I was on a hunt for help as my life went down the tubes I had every result you could imagine including pre pubescent... pregnant... per menopausal....menopausal ... and normal ... the only one I did not have was being male. I am not sure what the story is with these drugs but they do mess with hormones. Long ago when I was on paxil my lipase was off constantly... for some reason a doc filling in for my doc thought I should go on hormones to treat it... I can t do them as I had a TIA from birth control pills when I as 18 so no to estrogen... she put me on progesterone ... don t understand the reasoning but the result were not beneficial so she took me off she had me on and off it before my doc ever came back. Quite sure it was caused by paxil.. Is LIPASE INCREASED a side effect of PAXIL CR ... medsfacts.com/study-PAXIL%20CR-causing-LIPASE%20INCREASED.php Between January 2004 and October 2012, 3 individuals taking PAXIL CR reportedLIPASE INCREASED to the FDA. A total of 6697 PAXIL CR drug adverse ... Once again i was not told that going off paxil would cure this I was not given the option... same old story. I still have no idea how paxil would cause lipase to go up. or how hormones replacement could help that. Estrogen in parimenopausal women decreased hepatic lipase... here: http://atvb.ahajournals.org/content/11/1/23.full.pdf bit over my head just now may be useful to you Either way I was very young when this was proposed to me and far far far from per menopause then,... WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 19, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 19, 2015 thanks btdt! Yes i believe they mess up hormones, as estorgen has a positive effect on brain receptors (happy hormones)......, so I assume in response to too much artificial serotonin, the bodys response is to try and shut down serotonin production, ie shuts down serotonin receptors, etc, also ie, that in theory would mean stopping the production of estrogen. My theory is, as per Monty Python... Dinosaurs are thin at one end, thick in the middle and thin at the other end. If you havent watched Monty Python, I apologise, that would make no sense to you. But the Monty Python theory of dinsosaurs, relates exactly to the prescribing of Antidepressants, for depression, that could be caused by anything........both garbage. An analogy would be having beginnings of appendicitis, the doctor sees you have pain, so he prescribes morphine, as the cure to the pain. It cures the pain, three years later the morphine is destroying your liver, the doctor then does blood tests to check, as morphine is known to destroy the liver. He immediately stops the morphine. so the patient then not only still has the worseining appendicits, he also has a stuffed liver. That is the reality to me, or prescribing antidepressants as a cure all......... I honestly believe once in my life, they may have been the right thing to prescribe, but no other options were offered. Since then, they have never been the right thing to prescribe me.... but no one bothers to look at other options, once you been prescribed antidepressants, even if you been off them for 9 years. Anyhow....moving on... Anyway.... did you ever get such a low estrogen result, that you did not fit into any category, mine is so low, I basically am not producing any. Probably got less estrogen than a man (will check that one!!! xx) Even menopause levels should be 40-130.... mine just say less than that... could be zero, for all I thanks btdt! Yes i believe AD mess up hormones, and as hormones have an effect on brain receptors, so I assume too much artificial serotonin, the bodys response is to try and shut down serotonin ie, that in theory would mean stopping the production of estrogen. My theory is, as per Monty Python... Dinosaurs a thin at one end, thick in the middle and thin at the other end. If you havent watched Monty Python, I apologise, that would make no sense to you. Anyway.... did you ever get such a low estrogen result, that you did not fit into any category, mine is so low, I basically am not producing any. Even menopause levels should be 40-130.... mine just say less than that... could be zero, for all I know. my toxic drug overdosing (AD, and all the things that go with them) for ten years has caused poor liver function (but not too bad), has it also caused the loss of producing the required estrogen? Is that why my skin is so dry, my face and scalp is scabby, and I have fear, panic, and constant anxiety.....yes the AD have masked this for 10 years, but what if all I needed at 45 was damn hormones? No-one ever tested them, just a stupid gp gave me an antipsychotic, which sent me crazy? And what do you give for that? More and more mental drugs. Been reading all the menopause and depression stuff. The menopause sites say this could be causing my anxiety, panic, fear, etc. The depression sites, dont mention that at all, all they mention are going on AD??? Why? why is the link missing? Any woman at 40-50 who gets anxious and depressed, surely the hormones should be checked first? and the Thyroid? but they werent with me, nothing was checked...... 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 19, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 19, 2015 what is tia from birth control pills? I spent most of my life on birth control pills, and now I wonder what damage they have done to me. 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
btdt Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Transient Ischemic Attack a small stroke... half my tongue went numb small finger went numb could not see one side of the room and passed out before I could get anyone to notice I needed help... they did nothing but take me off birth control pills PS that is not true gp said take 8 asprin a day.. so I did till I seen a specialist who said that was way too much.. he did nothing I was already off the pill by then the gp said no more ever... they both did. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 19, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 19, 2015 So what was the result of the wrong lipase? Putting on weight? I read that AD mess up so many things. My experience? Eat the same diet, end up fat.... like my body is so messed up, instead of processing the food correctly, it just is so messed up it deposits it all as fat. Is that the problem you had? I was always thin, 47-49 kilos at five foot three. My sister judged I was thin, and ill, bollocks, I am naturally a thin person. My sisters got terribly concerned when I hit 46 kilos, I wish I hadn't panicked. Yes I was thin, but not ill thin. Always been thin. Till AD. With my sisters encouragement, they happily saw me head towards 70 kilos.....but she was fat on AD too. I was told there are two types of people, those who eat less when stressed, and those who eat more. I now just believe happy pill taking makes us fat and obese, it aint McDonalds............ I have always eaten deep fried chips, thick steaks, my whole life. the only variable to my weight etc, has been AD. Why are there so many more obese people in USA? Obvious I think, it aint the Mcdonalds.... its the AD, and other body metabolism drugs, messing us all up. had a sister in law, been on all sorts of happy pills, and diet drugs since damn 17.( and she wasn't even fat at 17.. ???)............... eventually? yes stomach stapling, yet she is still fat, and probably still on her meds. Sorry for rambling, but my thread...xxx My diary.. 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 19, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 19, 2015 OMG you had a stroke? 8 aspirin? omg.................... And the male doctors love the pill dont they? All men do........... Cause they dont want to bother with condoms.... woman's problem, lets medicated them so we can do whatever, whenever, and they wont fall pregnant. I wish I had been this wise at a much younger age. 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
btdt Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I don't understand that link I sent you about lipase thought you might be smarter than I am.. I have no idea but I know effexor raises cholesterol.. looks like paxil can raise lipase for some seem to for me... I went loopy on paxil and I quit taking it cold turkey... that got me sent to a day program where I was given a benzo and respriadol.. I quit them ct at the end of the program ... fell low low in wd went on effexor the rest is in my history actually that should be in my history too... it is a long old life isn't it...lol I know it is not funny but man the drugs I have had it was bad. peace Ang... I am off to bed here on the other side of the world... hope your day is good WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 20, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 20, 2015 Yeah, that was pretty heavy reading, I attempt it ..... yes effexor raises cholestrerol, and gave me seriously high blood pressure (and I dont suffer from either, in my normal undrugged state, actually have low cholesterol and low blood pressure....was a healthy person 10 years ago).... it also damages your liver, they all do, as the poor liver has to get rid of the overload... Anyway, I have to admit I am having three reasonable days now, in a row. If I hadn't been worse, I would say I am suffering hell. But it isn't quite as bad a hell, sure fellow sufferers understand. It is a breakthrough, as the fear of never getting better has gone, but the sheer despair is still there. the 25mg of seroquol 4 times a day is giving me an appetite, so i am eating lunch and dinner. Or maybe the St Johns Wort is finally starting to work? Dont know. I have tried drinking wine in the evening, versus not drinking wine for a week, doesn't seem to make any difference to how I feel...... but is nice not to crave drinking like I did while on the damn effexor. I am even drinking about four small cups of coffee during the morning (more like my usual self), wasn't able to before, would make me nauseaus, everything used to make me want to throw up. (Mornings).... Have a phone appointment shortly, re my low estrogen levels. should be 40-130. Mine just says less than 40............ and low estrogen causes high LDL cholestreol, dry skin, and depression and anxiety. I truly believe the antidepressant use has messed up how much estrogen my body is making. If the brain shuts down receptors in response to too much artificially produced serotonin, it is also going to shut down estrogen production as that is a serotonin (happy hormone)............. I am so, so hoping estrogen supplementation will work, now the SSRIs are out of my system. 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 20, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 20, 2015 Yes btdt, how about having a go at re editing your signature... Just a thought, I find it difficult to work out what you were on and when. I think we all have the horrors of medications sending us crazy. I need to start organising my writings, somehow. Anyway a draft is below... hope no-one minds if I print it here... literary criticisms very, very welcome. My first horror... one Valium got me sent to a psych ward for 3 weeks (I was fine before the valium).. I call this one "They looked deeply concerned"" the result of one valium tablet....... I am starting to write...and that takes a certain amount of confidence... that the men in white coats have lost their power.... I still clearly remember the Post Traumatic Shock, telling my gp I was frightened of him, after all he sent me away, and telling him ""Öne flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is real"" I might write some more for this one today. I now wonder what lies he said to the magistrate to get me sent "" ïnvoluntary"...........I was loud, and obnoxious, and couln't stop the legs, later 1/4 valium sent me running 10 kms to hospital, 10kms home again, running, and I am 55.. !!!! Wonder if they give it to racehorses? haha That is all, I hurt no-one, broke nothing, was not aggressive, or violent............ yet he could send me to a psych ward? that terrified me for a while, like what if the gp don't like you? He has such power? My third horror.........I think this one is the one I survived only by the grace of god....I think I will call it "A long weekend away"...the result of a Zyprexa script, cause I was exhausted..... this is a very quick draft.... IF ANYONE FINDS IN INAPPROPRIATE FOR ME TO PUT MY WRITINGS, MY DRAFTS , IN MY THREAD, LET ME KNOW. Gp doc put me on it, three days later I was in the hospital. They all seem to hit worse at day three, whether giving them up or going on them, in hindsight......(think I would have learnt not to touch this stuff eh? But docs dont tell you what it is)............ one tablet, and your brain is shot..... The Aropax or whatever.... for exhaustion, and lack of sleep? As happens when one has four kids aged 15 to 1 yo, and a husband who doesn't want to know......I took myself and 12 month old baby to the hospital, three days after starting the stuff (as above)....unluckily it was a friday afternoon, I believe, and a long weekend.. (Husband didn't care, he refused to mind the baby, while I went to the ER, he was watching footy on tv)........ And at that time, the gps in Albany did all the ER and hospital rounds, no on call hospital doctor, no doctors at the hospital at all.. The gps then had other gps cover for them over the weekends. A very, very profitable system for them all, one they were very, very reluctant to give up.... SO, IN REALITY how this system worked was that I went in on a Friday afternoon, by the monday (a public holiday), I had seen 5 different doctors, all gps, and none of them communicating with each other (dont want to mess up their friends weekends do they?)............. and I was a horrific mess. I would call it torture, true torture, being given medications willy nilly, and finally on the Monday morning, a newbie young lady gp. With that pretend confidence, ""I know what I am doing attitude."" But written all over her face was fear and panic, that she didn't have a clue, straight out of med school. Her tactic, be brief and quick and bolt.... I woke up with newbie gp, looking at me and saying '' ah I see you have been sleeping, so we will cut out the temazepam''............ Hahaharofl one side of my brain, the other side of my brain, the reality the shock, that I could not survive without sleep. 30 seconds, and she was gone. No questions, nothing, sure she was out the door as soon as she had crossed out the temazepam on my chart. The irony of it, finally sleeping, a wonderful one and one half hours of sleep, first in a long time.......to be woken up and told I have had enough sleep? OMG, as a person facing certain death, I found some inner stregth. I knew I had to get outta that place, just how and when? I couldn't hardly move, couldn't speak properly......... what on earth had Luckily I had 30c for a phone call, and at some stage on the Monday afternoon, all the drugs had all sort of cancelled themselves out, and I dragged myself to the ward telephone, someone was using it. I knew i didn't have a very long ""window of opportunity"" to save myself from death, seriously, they would've killed me in their absolute ignorance.... (happened lots of times in that hospital, under that archaic system). I had worked there, myself, I knew how that system worked very profitably for gp's.... So during they brief window of opportunity, where I could walk, and talk, ........I went to Maternity Ward, damn phone was broken, omg? god help me, yes I was praying, and I aint religious...went to main Entrance, yes, a working public phone....I managed to ring my husband, just said "come and get me"................. He arrived, packed my bag, nurses refused to let me go. They found a psych nurse who chatted to me, and said ""she seems fine to me""... my prayers had been answered. I couldn't die I had four kids, and a husband who didn't want the last two of them very much...... I left. Next morning.....hadn't slept for about 6 days, ended up finding some temazepam, and took one, slept 3 hours, took another one, slept 2 hours, took another one, slept another 2 hours, regained some mental function............... By some miracle, I had enough drugs, to taper the whole lot over three weeks, and I made it. What a bumpy ride for about 4 months. Eventually I have just got so sick of going thru WD, so angry that I now have drug induced problems......................... I never was crazy, the drugs make you crazy........... and while under the influence of one, what do you look like? A ten minute ................... omg....... so in the doctors notes? erratic, bipolar, vivid dreams, fear of persecution.......... hahahrofl... If I took a valium, now, I wouldn't be let out, would I? Appar I can actually laugh, when I recall myself, middle of the night that long weekend, telling the nurses I was having horrific dreams/visions. so they sat me down in their office, on a chair, I was sitting sideways, like a brick, I couldn't turn my head to face them,. The little Pakistani lady, who had just completed her nursing degree at the local tafe (I worked there), and the other lady, who I knew as I had also previously worked at the hospital. They sat there, giggling at me (like naughtly little schoolgirls), telling me to turn myself on the chair, so I could look at them directly. They giggled because i couldn't do it, and probbly had an expression of fear and horror, and total exhaustion. My logical, analytical brain was still there, but it just didn't show on my face, and my demeanour. I still remember them giggling at me. I hope to god they get put on this stuff. And realising, how lucky I was, to drag myself out of that hospital, as one does, when one knows death would likely be the only other outcome. So glad I never was there on the Tuesday to see Dr Griffies. He had other patients die.... the worst one was the one he admitted to hospital, did not do any sort of examination, put her in G ward, and she died...... she died of constipation, how sad is that, no nurses listened to here, the nurses thought the doctor had examined her (after all he billed the hospital for his examination, not done of course)....this poor lady died of constipation.......... Dr Griffies had his partner in the practice, his partner also handled so called psych patients, with devastating results also. but then these drugs kill us all in the end, just that we get blamed, for being crazy, the drugs and the doctors never cop any flak...... Oh well Dr Griffies and his partner have long since bolted. 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 20, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 20, 2015 Just has the phone call from the Australian menopause centre... Cost ? $160 every two months, length of treatment, 2 or 3 years..... My oestradiol is below the level it should be. The doc, said it wasn't relevant, as i needed a different type of estrogen, which they can not test for? And I needed progesterone first... but the progesterone could make me depressed............ is sedative like, could reduce the seroquol........ So all I am is even more confused. Basically judged on symptoms, what they prescribe (doesnt that just sound like psych drugs?), and could make symptoms worse....( sound familiar?) . So not sure whether to run a mile? Just sounds like I am swapping one drug for another.... Advice welcome. 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus WiggleIt Posted February 20, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 20, 2015 Oh my God. I have nothing to say. The whole field of medicinally based psychiatry should be discredited. *I'm not a doctor and don't give medical advice, just personal experience **Off all meds since Nov. 2014. Mentally & emotionally recovered; physically not-Dual cold turkeys off TCA & Ativan in Oct 2014. Prescribed from 2011-2014 -All meds were Rxed off-label for an autoimmune illness. It was a MISDIAGNOSIS, but I did not find out until AFTER meds caused damage. All med tapers/cold turkeys directed by doctors -Nortriptyline May 2012 - Dec 2013. Cold turkey off nortrip & cold switched to desipramine -Desipramine Jan 2014 - Oct. 29, 2014 (rapid taper/cold turkey) -Lorazepam 1 mg per night during 2011 -Lorazepam 1 mg per month in 2012 (or less) -Lorazepam on & off, Dec 2013 through Aug 2014. Didn't exceed 3x a week -Lorazepam again in Oct. 2014 to help get off of desipramine. Last dose lzpam was 1 mg, Nov. 2, 2014. Immediate paradoxical reactions to benzos after stopping TCAs -First muscle/dystonia side effects started on nortriptyline, but docs too stupid to figure it out. On desipramine, muscle tremors & rigidity worsened -Two weeks after I got off all meds, I developed full-blown TD. Tardive dystonia, dyskinesia, myoclonic jerks ALL over body, ribcage wiggles, facial tics, twitching tongue & fingers, tremors/twitches of arms, legs, cognitive impairment, throat muscles semi-paralyzed & unable to swallow solid food, brain zaps, ears ring, dizzy, everything looks too far away, insomnia, numbness & electric shocks everywhere when I try to fall asleep, jerk awake from sleep with big, gasping breaths, wake with terrors & tremors, severely depressed. NO HISTORY OF DEPRESSION, EVER. Meds CREATED it. -Month 7: hair falling out; no vision improvement; still tardive dystonia; facial & tongue tics returned -Month 8: back to acute, incl. Grand Mal seizure-like episodes. New mental torment, PGAD, worse insomnia -Month 9: tardive dystonia worse, dyskinesia returned. Unable to breathe well due to dystonia in stomach, chest, throat -Month 13: Back to acute, brain zaps back, developed eczema & stomach problems. Left leg no longer works right due to dystonia, meaning both legs now damaged -7 years off: Huge improvements, incl. improved dystonia Link to comment
LoveandLight Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Jeepers Ang..what a story..this will all come out in the end I hope.. 2000 - sertraline for job anxiety low confidence (17 years old) ..which turned the next 16 years into nightmare! On/off sertraline severe withdrawals every time. 2014 - felt better as reduced dose of sertraline no more inner restlessness. Doctor rushed off again. Hit severe withdrawal. Lost the little I had in life. Couldn't get stable again on 12.5mg. Was switched to prozac. Had severe reaction to prozac..came off in November 2015 at 6mg as felt more confused and damaged on it..Even more withdrawal ..rage, depression, dyphoria, near constant suicidal ideation, self harm impulses, doom, concrete block in head, unable to do much of anything with this feeling in head..went back on 6mg of sertraline to see if would alleviate anything. It didn't..reduced from December to June 2016 came off at 2.5mg sertraline as was hospitalised for the severe rage, suicidal impulses, and put on 50mg lofepramine which in 2nd week reduced all symptoms but gave insomnia which still have..psych stopped lofepramine cold turkey..no increased withdrawal symptoms new symptoms from lofepramine except persistant insomnia which has as side effect. Taking Ativan for 8 months for the severe rage self harm impulses 1-3 times a week (mostly 2 times a week) at .5mg. Two months (I'm unsure exactly when the interdose started to happen) ago interdose withdrawal seemed to happen..2 days I think after the Ativan. Nightmare that could have been avoided! Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 20, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 20, 2015 Hi everyone, I will post my "" short story"" of my second day in a public mental institution if you like, what a ripper! Was 19 years ago, and lets hope things have changed. Actually i just think they are worse... One damn valium.... then ............ The first thing, that sticks in my mind, is the lies told to me by the ambos putting me on the rfds plane, as the sedative wore off enough for me to reallise what was happening... and I asked is my baby on board... they LIED they said yes. So there I was on day one in Graylands, AFTER BEING KNOCKED OUT FOR TWO DAYS IN TRANSIT...? That was the best had been, the damn valium had worn off.... anyway, me trying to find someone in charge, found a lady in an office, must be important, that lady in the office. So I asked her where my baby was.... HAHAHA!!!!!!!! SHE DIDNT BELIEVE I HAD ONE....oh the conversation was an eye opener.... So I think I got a big red haloperidol, for being psychotic, and then the three weeks of hell began........based on her damn diagnosis, of whatever.... hallucinating??? rofl xx in hindsight. She never checked my notes, because I didn't have any there (apparently I got there before my notes, ie they lost them in transit)....... probably left them behind on the rfds plane, or gp forgot to send a note with me??? Any note?? But that is psychiatry, you are judged on such stupid things. I was thin, my 8 week old baby wasn't with me, (left behind in Albany hospital, with the maternity staff).... so apparently I was hallucinating, and never had a baby? Just dont want to make anyone worry.... I think they actually made some changes, after the horrors I went thru. Dont think anyone had been brave enough to go through FOI, to get their own medical records from Graylands before. OMG... They could not even read their own notes as to what I was given..... they are not sure... I think I had better luck deciphering their scribbles! they only keep records for 7 years, so if you dont ask for them, dont get them, all gone. The only comments they erased, in the whole mountain of stupid notes, were the comments of my ex husband, apparently I wasn't allowed to know what he said, everyone else I got the comments for. I think that is appalling. Anyhow, to try hormones through the Menopause Centre (which does the 10.00pm advertising on TV???)... is going to cost me $320.....(first four months).... ie expensive. And they use hormones from plant products, ie I would say I could buy the same things in a health supplements store, or such. However, today, at 8.00pm (OMG!!!), my gp actually returned my phone call. yay! Yes hrt has cancer concerns, which has made it not so popular, but he understands my position, would rather try anything to help, while I get thru WD. or try anything rather than go back on AD. So I pick up a script on Monday............ give it a try... cost about $10.00. and ""ïf it works it works".......... comments, and advice welcome, anyone else tried hrt? My skin and is so dry and scabby, perhaps it will help with that...Apparently estrogen lowers LDL, mine is high (never used to be pre AD). Seriously my skin is so bad, i dont want to be seen by anyone. 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 21, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 21, 2015 Today I feel like my mind is sort of racing (wish my body was... then I could clean up a bit).... Any ideas how to get motivated? I have actually had three reasonable days in a row.... I just need to get my body and soul moving. Any ideas? I pick up the hrt scripts monday, will just have to wait and see if that helps. 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 21, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 21, 2015 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 21, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 21, 2015 Why is it, we dont get hugs, we get medication, what is wrong with the Western world? My family didn't hug me, they medicated me. Why is mental illness (ie I need a hug!!!)./........treated like even the name is horrible. No one ever gives hugs, or care, or sympathy... like just drugs? Why? 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 21, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 21, 2015 I actually got that one damn hug from number two son... he said, dont dare blame yourself, dad was not a nice person... Because I had caved in I went for that hug, and my son responded, so do the dive, and get a damn hug xx 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 21, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 21, 2015 SO go for it, open up your heart, do the dive, get a hug, so much more worthwhile than damn drugs.......I was so damn amazed at my sons reaction... and so grateful.. I am loved.... It was so unexpected, my son, who I think I had not been kind enough to on AD (effexor)..............I hugged him, and he responded so so wonderfully. so do the dive, go for the damn hug... it is so much better than drugs. 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 21, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 21, 2015 I am an import, ie I came to Australia in 1966... Why? my theory.... mum had had a total hysterectomy inc ovaries, and went weird. Both parents after second time of thinking about it, decided to emigrate to Australia. My mum then, didnt want anything sexually to do with my dad, she had just gone thru the removal of damn everything... no sexual attraction remaining, at all. So Australia, not as my dad expected it... like too long a story. Dad got more angry abusive, aggressive, started doing "night shift" at Robbies Roadhouse 54 mile peg, great eastern highway, perth. Eventually went so weird, did a car exhaust thing, but turned off the ignition too late, he was dead. Should have been end of story. Radical hysterectomy inc ovaries, destroyed mums sexual attraction to anything. My dad s horrific war memories , well he had coped with those for damn 20 years?... Truth is... medication and radical surgery destroyed my family.... no replacement hormones in those days.................... So now my family has the **** "depression runs in the family" get real? one person out of damn 30 I know as close relatives, suicides? Get over it, the hereditary thing is garbage, and more garbage, and totally disproven. I had a friend who was so convinced she would get arthritis? Why? Her mum had it. Her brother still says that the drugs destroyed his mother.... he will not even take an aspirin, neither will I. 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 21, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 21, 2015 omg my brother in law took half an aspirin a day, and when he scratched himself, he would not stop bleeding... I said why the hell are you taking aspirin???. He stopped taking it, stopped bleeding everywhere, and his doctor said good, that you gave it up...Take aspirin to prevent a clot... then you get a brain bleed, called a stroke..how we abuse our bodies,........ with heresay medical crap.... 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus WiggleIt Posted February 21, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 21, 2015 It doesn't sound to me like depression runs in your family. It sounds to me like your family members experience outside events that would cause trauma to anyone, but those events have been falsely interpreted as intrinsic depression. I'm so interested reading along your thread. Saddened, but interested. The psychiatric field is filled with false causality. *I'm not a doctor and don't give medical advice, just personal experience **Off all meds since Nov. 2014. Mentally & emotionally recovered; physically not-Dual cold turkeys off TCA & Ativan in Oct 2014. Prescribed from 2011-2014 -All meds were Rxed off-label for an autoimmune illness. It was a MISDIAGNOSIS, but I did not find out until AFTER meds caused damage. All med tapers/cold turkeys directed by doctors -Nortriptyline May 2012 - Dec 2013. Cold turkey off nortrip & cold switched to desipramine -Desipramine Jan 2014 - Oct. 29, 2014 (rapid taper/cold turkey) -Lorazepam 1 mg per night during 2011 -Lorazepam 1 mg per month in 2012 (or less) -Lorazepam on & off, Dec 2013 through Aug 2014. Didn't exceed 3x a week -Lorazepam again in Oct. 2014 to help get off of desipramine. Last dose lzpam was 1 mg, Nov. 2, 2014. Immediate paradoxical reactions to benzos after stopping TCAs -First muscle/dystonia side effects started on nortriptyline, but docs too stupid to figure it out. On desipramine, muscle tremors & rigidity worsened -Two weeks after I got off all meds, I developed full-blown TD. Tardive dystonia, dyskinesia, myoclonic jerks ALL over body, ribcage wiggles, facial tics, twitching tongue & fingers, tremors/twitches of arms, legs, cognitive impairment, throat muscles semi-paralyzed & unable to swallow solid food, brain zaps, ears ring, dizzy, everything looks too far away, insomnia, numbness & electric shocks everywhere when I try to fall asleep, jerk awake from sleep with big, gasping breaths, wake with terrors & tremors, severely depressed. NO HISTORY OF DEPRESSION, EVER. Meds CREATED it. -Month 7: hair falling out; no vision improvement; still tardive dystonia; facial & tongue tics returned -Month 8: back to acute, incl. Grand Mal seizure-like episodes. New mental torment, PGAD, worse insomnia -Month 9: tardive dystonia worse, dyskinesia returned. Unable to breathe well due to dystonia in stomach, chest, throat -Month 13: Back to acute, brain zaps back, developed eczema & stomach problems. Left leg no longer works right due to dystonia, meaning both legs now damaged -7 years off: Huge improvements, incl. improved dystonia Link to comment
btdt Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I am glad you got the hug Ang WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 23, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 23, 2015 I posted this on another thread, but want to keep a record on my own thread. Add a bit extra, I was depressed at 16, got over it with an improved diet, and a mother who suddenly took interest..... she actually got pulled to attention when she had to take me to the gp... love her to bits, she been through heaps of horrific stuff in her life, hope I am half as strong as her.............. but damn she was never there for her youngest kids.... long story. So........................... 35 years old..............I didn't want to get out of bed one day..........Psych number one..... believed in massive doses (double max recommended dothiepin), result? fits and 3 weeks in hospital after 8 weeks.... made me so damn scared, let him put me on another AD, for my ""obviously""underlying problem "meds dont do that"".............. yeah fell for it, fear does that. This psych has actually fled the country as he told a lady she needed to go and have a good F+++ omg... I think he was getting deregistered in oz anyway. (Got a sister who typed up court reports, he was always defending himself!!!) Psych number two, told me "how sick I was" as I had an all day horrific panic attack, why? a gp had just prescribed an antispychotic for my exhaustion (called four kids, mini farm, and absent husband). Had been off meds 9 years. Of course led to psych number 3. She was a South African born and bred spinster.....(old language)..., who refused to give me a letter to go on DSP, I was pretty stuffed on the effexor she prescribed, and all the other stuff. Centrelink gave me the DSP anyway, was obvious I was suffering. Outcome she wouldn't see me anymore, probably retired, thank god. And of all the people, in the public health system, and the gps, I respect them, they all did their best of a bad situation. Private psychiatrists? Never, ever, will I go anywhere near them again. Keep well Zang, and WELL DONE! 20 years on the stuff........ wow, you get off em, you deserve a medal for determination. 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 24, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 24, 2015 Well taking 1mg Progynova and 5mg Ralovera, estradiol valerate and methoxyprogesterone acetate. Estrogen and progesterone. Will just see if it helps or not, only thing so far is I find it slightly sedative. I have horrifically ddry and scabby skin, I hope it helps. 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 24, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 24, 2015 Am finding that I havent needed the seroquol doses. Havent even thought about a second dose today, and it is 1.00pm. 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 24, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 24, 2015 4.00pm, I have been playing my silly computer game. How weird, it is now so easy, and my score is phenomenal? Why? Just because I have some hormones? That is the only thing extra I have added since yesterday. I played the same game yesterday, and battled through it like I usually do, I am improving of course, but today I just blitzed it, easy. Not once but twice, beat all previous scores by 30%...........I wanna play again..... Am I going manic? (Oh true mania is terrifying, only ever caused in me by a drug reaction though, never been manic drug free.....prefer to be depressed, any day). Can hide depression, can not hide mania. And mania scares other people, even if just loud and obnoxious, which is how I go (caused by Valium..............) Or just damn suddenly got some energy? So quickly? I went food shopping. I have been felling a bit more "normal" for a few days, and yes I attribute that maybe to the St Johns Wort finally having some effect, or maybe just time heals. No waves and windows, jsut a very, very gradual improvement. But today? Like whammo, got my brain back. Still haven't cleaned the house, but feel I have not got an excuse not to tomorrow. Like wow! god, maybe it is just a window, grateful for it, so so grateful. How nice it is to feel "normal" in my thoughts and feelings... in my brain. No fear, no constant anxiety and panic, how lovely.I am a bit emotional at the moment, cause I think I might make it thru this horror I am sure everyone reading this will als Two weeks ago I was praying I would just die.............now I am happy even if all I can do is play silly computer games, and focus, two weeks ago, I had TO FORCE MYSELF to play these games, to distract me from the emotional pain. Well done to the Surviving Antidepressants website, we just need hope, and encouragement to get through this, and we do.....if I go back into a wave tomorrow, it is nice to feel normal today. I need that memory refreshed in my brain.... Keep up your good work.... and all those wonderful links. A gp gave me a valium, for exhaustion, three kids, and an abusive, usually absent husband, and a mini farm to run..... On the third day, when the 2nd wave of this bad reaction hit me, I had valium forced upon me, and refused it, even in my mania ( just loud and obnoxious, and so, so hyper active.).. I knew, even in the horrors of its reaction in me....I recognised that damn tablet. Because I refused (the nurse refused to tell me what it was)...and damn I worked in pathology....in hindsight, she was too horrified to tell me the big red one was haloperidol, probably, and I never heard of that one, then.....but that big white one..... .. Damn I would have taken the haloperidol, not that damn valium... Anyway, refused the meds. Forcibly injected , woke up 2 days later 450km from home, without an 8 week old baby guess what they gave me? A valium. Here is my story, called day three, after another damn valium............ Dedicated to Liz, my dear friend in Locked Ward, (died due to Shock Treatment), many years later. RIP lovely young lady. (And the one that escaped his personal hell, in this Asylum, through the gift of a slightly open window). They looked deeply concerned….. They looked deeply concerned, as they stood next to each other, almost like identical co-joined twins. They leaned forward together, tipped their heads together, and had the same identical puzzled expressions. "WHAT on earth is wrong with you?" they said, almost as if one fuzzy vision was speaking, but the words came only from Carol's mouth. Amongst my fuzzy grey matter, I was shocked....what? It took only a moment, or two, or maybe three or four? I don't know?............ for their words to penetrate, but I just had no way of responding. The words were there, but my mouth just would not move, not the way my mind wanted it to, anyway. I tried, but the words were not recognisable as my own. So we stood together in that lonely cold corridor, all three of us, almost in a timeless void. I rambled incoherently. Two doors locked behind me, one door at the end of the long passageway, locked in front of me. That door led to the outside sunshine, and an exercise bike. I longed for that exercise bike, and the privilege of getting rid of all my useless energy, so I could relax, exhausted. I wished I was a smoker, then I could request to go outside to that razor wired enclosure, with it's little gazebo and green grass. And the staff liked that too, as they had to accompany us, and had a chance to smoke too, and anything that make the staff happy, was good......................... Damn, I wish I was a smoker. These thoughts travelled through my mind quickly, while my lips just fumbled and jumbled, and dribbled. Wish my tongue wasn't so swollen, wish my jaw would loosen up. I must be so, so sick. I leant forward, so as not to fall, my balance was a bit gone too, but I was determined not to fall, and walk as dignified as I could. I will not fall, I will not fall, I will not fall, focus, focus, balance, balance, speak, speak, I will not fall. I tried to focus and think, to distract myself, as one does when one tries not to vomit, I longed for that outside enclosure, and the company of seeing other humans, those less fortunate than me on the other side of the wire, the ones that walked around in circles. It reminded me so much of the movie "midnight express". But I was in Australia. I was told I was in Albany, I know I am not there, but I am definite, I am still in Australia, somewhere? Yes, definitely Australia, somewhere. Someone said Mount Claremont, but I have never heard of that place. Aimlessly walking, not lucky enough to have an exercise bike, until the cigarettes were all extinguished, and they had to go back in. At least they had longer in the sun, than us, there were more of them and it took longer for them all to finish their smokes. And luckily they had their smokes, and the sun, not like "Midnight Express". I am so glad I am in Australia. "What on earth is wrong with you?" Again....I tried my best, but no matter how I tried, I just couldn't respond, not well enough that they understood. It was as if I were speaking an alien language. So I became quiet, they might become cross with me. I knew I had done something dreadfully wrong, I must have, why else why would I be here? Why would I be kept under lock and key, trying to breastfeed a new baby, while a man looks through a thick glass cell window. I cry. My baby leaves with my friend. I am grateful, I am so ashamed to cry. Focus, Angelina, focus, I am talking to myself in my head again. Focus Angelina, focus!. I am promised in two days, if I am good, I will be able to visit the shop. First with an escort only, perhaps, if I am good, later by myself. And out of pure necessity, I have been given cold cabbage leaves to ease the pain of my swollen breasts, my baby only visits once a day. I am grateful. I must have done something absolutely horrific....I wish I could ask for a blanket and a pillow, but I am scared. I have been punished before with needles. At least I have a bed, a mattress, and an empty tin cupboard, and a small window. I can see the sunshine outside. Focus Angelina, focus, those voices in my befuddled brain again. I focus. Now these strange visions in front of me, are asking again "WHAT is wrong with you."" Finally my thoughts clear and my mind is alert, for just a few seconds....my brain is talking to me again, I am so glad my mouth is not speaking...it is talking to me and it says "How the **** am I supposed to know, what is wrong with me? Isn't that your job?" I am so grateful, just as I am grateful now for every small mercy, that I can not respond, as I know they would be angry. Susan and her thick locks of sunny red hair, like waves of flames on her head, Carol, with her glasses and wrinkled, tired face. They are before me again, and say "sign this", ....then I cannot hear very , well...something.....I think I am crying again, inside, although my body does not show it, they are saying more, but it is irrelevant. My fuzzy grey matter knows I have no choice. Inside I am angry, I want to see my doctor, but they denied this request. Or did he not want to see me? I am confused again. No, he must want to punish me for my evil, or why would I be here. But what was my evil? Please tell me, what did I do? They don't know what is wrong with me? I hope he does. They demand to be allowed to ask him. I know I have no choice, Susan carefully guides my arm with a pen in my hand, while Carol holds a board with a piece of paper on it. I sign as best I can. It is so difficult, my hand is shaking so wildly, my eyes are so fuzzy I find it hard to locate the distance required to put the pen to the paper. I am determined not to dribble. I need to think of something else, so I do. I look forward to tomorrow, if I am good, I will get to see the sunshine, and stretch my legs..... I look forward to the "Shop", whatever it may be. I have been good, I signed the paper. Hope you all read my book one day, I am darn determined to write it, and nearly well enough. 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 24, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 24, 2015 The book will be dedicated to those who get forcibly medicated, when they have done no wrong, as I had done no wrong..... just a bad reaction to damn valium... I was loud and couldnt stop the hyperactivity...I was running, miles and miles..... I hurt nobody.... and the trauma that forced medication brings with it. It will be dedicated to those women who are abused, and used. Called a bad marriage. Dedicated to clever people, who are told they are psychotic,because the psychs have no idea what they are talking about (during a manic episode).... being judged like by a two year old, and they ask you why the eck do you think the world is round (obviously psychotic, the world is square). Sally was head of Mother and Baby Ward, Carolyn Head of Graylands. ie a mental asylum in Perth, Western Australia, no-one called it Graylands, The staff didn't want to let you know where you were, the patients affectionately called it ""Gracelands"".... thus my confusion when I wanted to know where I was. I wasnt afraid of Graylands then, or mental institutions then, but damn I am now. I am terrified at the illogical power of psychiatry. My thoughts? The real qualified psychs I have seen in private psychiatry, are genuinely nuts....and power hungry idiots... anyway, I digress..... The first psych, I went searching for in Graylands, .... ie lady in an office, I found, trying to find where my baby was in this place (remember the ambos told me my baby was being sent there too), and I had no idea they had me knocked out, ie sedated for two damn days....anyhow....... she had no uniform, no name badge, but I am clever enough to know this lady must have authority, like she was in an office?.without a name badge (yes an indication to their authority status... they got away with forgetting to put on their name badge).... And of course, at the time, they all dressed civvy, like supposed to somehow make them blend in with the patients? You gotta be kiddin me? such is psychiatry...,.rofl x This lady said I am at ""Mount Claremont"... like no wonder us mad people are so damn confused. And people lying? ie the rfds men, or the ambos? One said yes baby is on board, out of bloody mindedness, the true gem was his younger partner, who laughed and said.. ""yeah so is your dog" I prefer the comment of the younger one, made me wonder. Anyhow for both ladies (of such power) Carolyn Head of Graylands, and Sally, Head of Mother and Baby Ward, and locked ward, to suddenly be there, in my face...after being so over medicated, and nearly dying........ Why?...For both of them to be so concerned about me, I am grateful. They are just innocent, kind victims of a crazy system. I had a brain before forced medication... a very very bright brain, but while in Graylands, Sally actually judged me on something I said about physics, while hyper on that damn valium, Dr Noll gave me.... I am a physics person.... that time is not a constant, I would never have said that if I wasn't damn manic on valium...valium a gp gave me....anyhow, the trauma the PTSD, the thinking I am mad....damn it.... so took me 6 years to say that to my son "time is not a constant"..what happened????????, he cracked up laughing, and said ""oh god mum, they have known that for years".. But I was judged to be psychotic, on that comment, by a psych who didn't understand physics, wasn't it obvious? I was just ranting and raving? Sally's interpretation "so do you still think you are brighter than Einstein" how the hell does one reply to that crap? More haloperidol If i can damn survive, anyone can. Keep trying................ If I can survive, damn anyone can. 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Fresh Posted February 24, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 24, 2015 Hi ang , maybe you're feeling better because you've been taking Seroquel for 3-4 days 25mg qid. It's started to kick in and do it's stuff. I can't believe it's directly related to one day of hormones. 1987-1997 pertofran , prothiaden , Prozac 1997-2002 Zoloft 2002-2004 effexor 2004-2010 Lexapro 40mg 2010-2012Cymbalta 120mg Sept. 2012 -decreased 90mg in 6months. Care taken over by Dr Lucire in March 2013 , decreased last 30mg at 2mg per week over 3 months. July 21 , 2013- last dose of Cymbalta Protracted withdrawal syndrome kicked in badly Jan.2014 Unrelenting akathisia until May 2014. Voluntary hosp. admission. Cocktail of Seroquel, Ativan and mirtazapine and I was well enough to go home after 14 days. Stopped all hosp. meds in next few months. July 2014 felt v.depressed - couldn't stop crying. Started pristiq 50mg. Felt improvement within days and continued to improve, so stayed on 50mg for 8 months. Began taper 28 Feb. 2015. Pristiq 50mg down to 45mg. Had one month of w/d symptoms. Started CES therapy in March. No w/d symptoms down to 30mg. October 2015 , taking 25mg Pristiq. Capsules compounded with slow-release additive. March 2016 , 21mg Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 24, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 24, 2015 I spoke to a lady in my free food place, she been on Ad for 25 years, yes the age of her daughter... she said she tries to give up, and can not... She had no idea, it takes 3 years+ to reduce, and stay sane, and get off the crap.... She is a lovely lady, I just wonder why she is working in a food help place... she obviously is capable of much, much more. But that damn addiction..................... 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted February 24, 2015 Administrator Share Posted February 24, 2015 ang, I believe your views on homosexuality are controversial, to say the least. Out of respect for our gay members, I must ask you to temper your comments on this issue. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 25, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 25, 2015 Hi Alto, please remove the comments if you can. I dont know how to do it. apologies, sometimes I just need to stay off the computer... As for the hormones, yes I think I do still need the seroquol..... better stop switching and changing. 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted February 25, 2015 Administrator Share Posted February 25, 2015 Post hidden. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
direstraits Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 hi Ang, I just wanted to say how very sorry I am that you lost achild it's aclub no one wants to be part of-I would hope you don't blame yourself-you didn't know what these awful drugs can do I just want you to know I'm thinking of you & wish for better days ahead. went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs. Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 25, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 25, 2015 Of course I blamed myself. But also I was the first on Zoloft in Western Australia, was only on zoloft because of the fallout from the gp giving me one damn valium (which reacts very, very badly in me).... all clear in hindsight (20 years later, when it happened again)....anyway the Zolft, Psych doctor gave me sample packets, he didn't even know it wasn't available yet. I wasnt told to give up the zoloft as a matter of urgency if i fell pregnant, but to give up the tegretol urgently. Now it is a known side effect of zoloft. Just a combination of errors, my husband had had a vasectomy, but it didn't work. First baby we thought just snuck in straight after the vasectomy, certainly never expected to fall pregnant a second time, after a damn vasectomy.. Anyhow, don't feel bad about it, it was difficult, but my baby was too ill to save....was awful at the time, to have a perfectly healthy baby, that suddenly gets real ill after 36 hours....kinda cruel twist, with heart problems.. I fell pregnant again, no drugs to help me through the grief and trauma, so doesn't that say something? We cope without the medication. James is my new baby (now 17!!), and I am so blessed, four healthy children. Yes I feel angry, newer drugs are sold and marketed as safer than older ones. A marketing lie, just that the side effects, the horrific side effects are not known, or listed. That is disgusting. Thalidomide suddenly became illegal to prescribe, after all those poor little babies born. So why is zoloft still being sold? The good effects outweigh the bad effects? OMG? My friend was also on the stuff, and for some reason, suddenly they did a scan, like 2 weeks before birth. Why? Yes another half a heart zoloft baby. So yes, it was zoloft, and how many surviving half a heart babies are out there? so many horrific operations, poor little kids, and who will admit to them it was caused by their mothers medication, I couldn't have said that to Steven, if he had survived. All this stuff is hush, hush, as all mental medications are, how the drug companies have us all as hostages. 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted February 26, 2015 Author Mentor Share Posted February 26, 2015 He knows, I see him, the psychiatrist sitting relaxing and smiling, in the big building, in the background! The building is called Pharmaceutical House........ 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
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