Junior Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Junior, one can feel guilty and not be depressed. Of course. Guilt is also a normal human emotion. But when one is suffering depression this guilt tends to be magnified. That is what I meant about Steeley's RI - her guilt was / is probably magnified by feeling so low. Personal history of GAD and 4 melancholic depressive episodes - two treated with Amityptline Family history of Bipolar Disorder - goes back at least 3 generations Adult son with autism, ADHD, intellectual disability and Bipolar II Put on Aropax / Paxil in July 1997 for anther episode. Decision to stay on it - worst decision of my life. Began to poop out in late 2008. Switched to Lexapro March 2009. Made me suicidal. Tried Cymbalta for 19 days. Horrible w/d. Found PP and RI'd Aropax at about the same time - August 2009. Began slow taper in 2010. Crashed in 13-11mg range in mid 2013. Switched to Citalopram 21 Oct 2013 in an attempt to stabilise. There are things that are known, and things that are unknown; in between are doors - Anonymous https://itunes.apple.com/au/book/longing-for-life/id958423649 My book about my unsuccessful journey through IVF Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Songbird Posted December 28, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 28, 2014 But when one is suffering depression this guilt tends to be magnified. When suffering depression, any or all negative emotions can be magnified greatly. In recent times I've been up and down like a rollercoaster after each drop, terrible depression at times. Those days everything feels hopeless, other days everything seems hopeful. No change in my circumstances, just different brain chemistry happening. 2001–2002 paroxetine 2003 citalopram 2004-2008 paroxetine (various failed tapers) 2008 paroxetine slow taper down to 2016 Aug off paroxetine2016 citalopram May 20mg Oct 15mg … slow taper down2018 citalopram 13 Feb 4.6mg 15 Mar 4.4mg 29 Apr 4.2mg 6 Jul 4.1mg 17 Aug 4.0mg 18 Nov 3.8mg 2019 15 Mar 3.6mg 21 May 3.4mg 26 Dec 3.2mg 2020 19 Feb 3.0mg 19 Jul 2.9mg 16 Sep 2.8mg 25 Oct 2.7mg 23 Oct 2.6mg 24 Dec 2.5mg 2021 29 Aug 2.4mg 15 Nov 2.3mg Link to comment
Ever Posted December 28, 2014 Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 Yes Put on Prothiaden for severe depression in 1989. Recovered. Prescribed Paxil for another bout of depression around 2000. Have been trying to taper ever since but always crash about 2 months after getting to zero. Because of the crashes, for years I thought that there was something wrong with me. Then found that the crashes were simply withdrawal. Now following a maximum of a 10% reduction every month or so and ready to slow down any time I feel any symptoms whatsoever. Feeling good:). 7th Jan 15 - 3.6mg 28th Jan 15 - 3.2mg Link to comment
Junior Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 But when one is suffering depression this guilt tends to be magnified. When suffering depression, any or all negative emotions can be magnified greatly. In recent times I've been up and down like a rollercoaster after each drop, terrible depression at times. Those days everything feels hopeless, other days everything seems hopeful. No change in my circumstances, just different brain chemistry happening. I had the same thing during my 10 month phase. I could swing from feeling clinically depressed to being perfectly 'normal' within hours. One night I wanted to toss myself over the side. The next morning I was fine. Personal history of GAD and 4 melancholic depressive episodes - two treated with Amityptline Family history of Bipolar Disorder - goes back at least 3 generations Adult son with autism, ADHD, intellectual disability and Bipolar II Put on Aropax / Paxil in July 1997 for anther episode. Decision to stay on it - worst decision of my life. Began to poop out in late 2008. Switched to Lexapro March 2009. Made me suicidal. Tried Cymbalta for 19 days. Horrible w/d. Found PP and RI'd Aropax at about the same time - August 2009. Began slow taper in 2010. Crashed in 13-11mg range in mid 2013. Switched to Citalopram 21 Oct 2013 in an attempt to stabilise. There are things that are known, and things that are unknown; in between are doors - Anonymous https://itunes.apple.com/au/book/longing-for-life/id958423649 My book about my unsuccessful journey through IVF Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted January 1, 2015 Moderator Share Posted January 1, 2015 Happy New Year Ever, I hope this next year is even better. (((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))))))))))) 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
Ever Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share Posted January 1, 2015 You too Mr BrassMonkey XXXXXX I'm still feeling excellent! Woot! Put on Prothiaden for severe depression in 1989. Recovered. Prescribed Paxil for another bout of depression around 2000. Have been trying to taper ever since but always crash about 2 months after getting to zero. Because of the crashes, for years I thought that there was something wrong with me. Then found that the crashes were simply withdrawal. Now following a maximum of a 10% reduction every month or so and ready to slow down any time I feel any symptoms whatsoever. Feeling good:). 7th Jan 15 - 3.6mg 28th Jan 15 - 3.2mg Link to comment
Ever Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Been really good for ages now - don't remember exactly when I re-instated as the records are at pp, but it's around 6 to 8 weeks now I think, and NO withdrawal symptoms at all for weeks and weeks, so I went down to 3.8mg two days ago. Put on Prothiaden for severe depression in 1989. Recovered. Prescribed Paxil for another bout of depression around 2000. Have been trying to taper ever since but always crash about 2 months after getting to zero. Because of the crashes, for years I thought that there was something wrong with me. Then found that the crashes were simply withdrawal. Now following a maximum of a 10% reduction every month or so and ready to slow down any time I feel any symptoms whatsoever. Feeling good:). 7th Jan 15 - 3.6mg 28th Jan 15 - 3.2mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Songbird Posted January 9, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 9, 2015 That's good to hear, Ever. 2001–2002 paroxetine 2003 citalopram 2004-2008 paroxetine (various failed tapers) 2008 paroxetine slow taper down to 2016 Aug off paroxetine2016 citalopram May 20mg Oct 15mg … slow taper down2018 citalopram 13 Feb 4.6mg 15 Mar 4.4mg 29 Apr 4.2mg 6 Jul 4.1mg 17 Aug 4.0mg 18 Nov 3.8mg 2019 15 Mar 3.6mg 21 May 3.4mg 26 Dec 3.2mg 2020 19 Feb 3.0mg 19 Jul 2.9mg 16 Sep 2.8mg 25 Oct 2.7mg 23 Oct 2.6mg 24 Dec 2.5mg 2021 29 Aug 2.4mg 15 Nov 2.3mg Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted January 9, 2015 Moderator Share Posted January 9, 2015 I'm so happy to hear that the ri is going so well. Take it very slow and easy on the new taper. ((((((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))))) 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
steeley Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I'm cheerin' Ever, No symptoms for ages, and me too been feeling good for about a WHOLE week. I am in love with life. I'm still in love with Mitchell Johnson (aussie cricketer, you know that), but life is grand at the moment, and I'm lovin' it more. I'm doing heaps of stuff, and things are clear as a bell except for low level tinitus and maybe a smidge of mania. I don't have bi-polar by the way. I am no longer feeling guilty about the PP fiasco, and on reflection can only say je suis Charlie. I loved your dead duck, but am going to go with the molten metal when I get my new computer to import the image. I'm struggling along with this old bomb, but seem to be making it somehow. Just like WD my computer crashes out bad one day, then next day feels better. Keep batting........so happy for you. as always ....... steeley Prescribed 30mg Mirtazapine approximately 10 years ago. PTSD C/T 50% of dose - dreadful, hellish Begin to reduce by 10% every 3-6 weeks now: 5.11.14 4.50mg - going to wait a bit longer Link to comment
Tilly Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Been really good for ages now - don't remember exactly when I re-instated as the records are at pp, but it's around 6 to 8 weeks now I think, and NO withdrawal symptoms at all for weeks and weeks, so I went down to 3.8mg two days ago. Hello Ever! Wow, this is great news! Long may it continue! Thank you for your advice on my first post. I really appreciate it. Anyone who eats trifle for breakfast is a friend of mine! Everything in moderation including moderation at times. Good for you! Be kind to yourself & speak soon. Tilly x 1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 - short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg -> 2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 - October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments -> Oct 2014 - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg; 19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March. Diet: mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins. Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated). Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics. Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure. Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future. "Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain Link to comment
Ever Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 Thankyou Brassmonkey, Steeley, Songbird and Tilly! I had the beginnings of heat-stroke a few days ago. I was playing with my wee horse, it was hot and I don't think I'd had much to drink that day. Started feeling really dizzy. Didn't think I was going to make it home - thought I was going to faint. I've only fainted once in my entire 62 years - that was after giving blood one time years ago. So was a bit of a worry lol. But I'm fine now and it's been a great excuse to stay inside, keep cool and watch horse-training videos and TV lol. Omg Tilly - you've just reminded me how GOOD that trifle tasted lol. My sister-in-law made it and it's the bestest trifle I've ever tasted. YUM! Still feeling good after the drop. (apart from heat-exhaustion lol). Woot! Put on Prothiaden for severe depression in 1989. Recovered. Prescribed Paxil for another bout of depression around 2000. Have been trying to taper ever since but always crash about 2 months after getting to zero. Because of the crashes, for years I thought that there was something wrong with me. Then found that the crashes were simply withdrawal. Now following a maximum of a 10% reduction every month or so and ready to slow down any time I feel any symptoms whatsoever. Feeling good:). 7th Jan 15 - 3.6mg 28th Jan 15 - 3.2mg Link to comment
Tilly Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Your trifle in bed sounded yummy! (That sounds a bit wrong ) I'm so glad to hear that you are doing good after your recent drop. Long may it continue! Your profile picture is beautiful, Ever. I love nature & animals and smile each time I see it Stay in the shade & keep cool lady Tilly x 1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 - short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg -> 2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 - October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments -> Oct 2014 - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg; 19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March. Diet: mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins. Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated). Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics. Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure. Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future. "Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain Link to comment
WatchingTV426 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Songbird - by jumping off too soon, I reckon I've lost 6 months - having to re-instate and stablise again. I'm not too worried about it now though - learnt another lesson and yes, I'm going to watch out for symptoms and go slower and/or hold longer from now on. I wish I had had this good sense, when, about two weeks out from stopping, I was getting pretty severe sadness/crying out of nowhere and considered reinstating. I hadn't found this forum yet, and the only resource I had was Glenmullen's Anti-Depressant Solution (or whatever it's called), so I tried a test dose, which worked and confirmed for me that is was withdrawal. I thought he was right that it was "peaking" and would just go away. BAH. I kept thinking then, "I don't want to have lost this time and go back up." Well, with the abject MISERY I've felt these past days, the worst in my LIFE, I can tell you that I think who in the world cares about losing that time spent tapering?! I wish so badly I had gone back up then, and I hope to be able to have your attitude sooner rather than later--that I have learned a valuable lesson. Right now I am in the beating myself up stage, part of neuro-emotion, no doubt, like all the rest of this. Glad you're doing so well. Started Zoloft 07/06, continued through 07/08 (2-month taper, going downhill 6 weeks after stopping [w/d?]) Lexapro started 12/08, Lexapro increased/Buspar and Topamax added in '09, continued through 08/10 (3-month taper, disastrous results after 3 week [w/d?]) 200 mg Zoloft started around 9/10; been between 150 and 200 mg Zoloft since then, also on Topamax and Deplin, and tried things for sleep like Trazadone (worked for a while), and Ambien, Lunesta, and Mirtazapine (all failed) --Started tapering 200mg Zoloft-- 6-26-14 (150 mg); 7-14-14 (100 mg); 8-20-14 (50 mg); 10-25-14 (25 mg); 11-18-14 (12.5 mg); 12-2-14 stopped Zoloft anxiety started 3 days off, depression 12 days off; both severely intensified at 5 weeks off with a work-related trigger and got progressively worse for 10 days Reinstated Zoloft 12.5mg on 1-15-15 (one day at 25mg) after 6 weeks and 2 days off Also taking 100mg Topamax and 15mg Deplin Link to comment
Ever Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 Since I hadn't had any symptoms whatsoever for months now, I dropped 10% again yesterday. To 3.2mg. Watching out for any symptoms.... Feeling excellent Put on Prothiaden for severe depression in 1989. Recovered. Prescribed Paxil for another bout of depression around 2000. Have been trying to taper ever since but always crash about 2 months after getting to zero. Because of the crashes, for years I thought that there was something wrong with me. Then found that the crashes were simply withdrawal. Now following a maximum of a 10% reduction every month or so and ready to slow down any time I feel any symptoms whatsoever. Feeling good:). 7th Jan 15 - 3.6mg 28th Jan 15 - 3.2mg Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted January 29, 2015 Moderator Share Posted January 29, 2015 WOOT WOOT !!! 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
nz11 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Hold those reigns tightly ! Be careful out there. Wishing you record new lows....you know what i mean! Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment
steeley Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Hi Ever, Hope you are still travelling well after last drop. Was a bit concerned that the prang you were involved in might have set you back, but no you can't keep a good NZ girl down. Very happy for you Ever, and hope it continues in that very same direction. Oh, to be completely free of these drugs, it appears as a mirage to me sometimes and think that I will never really find water. Have to keep reminding myself of the success stories, and the fact that you have been symptom free for months has me to continue to believe. Keep on keeping on Ever. steeley . Prescribed 30mg Mirtazapine approximately 10 years ago. PTSD C/T 50% of dose - dreadful, hellish Begin to reduce by 10% every 3-6 weeks now: 5.11.14 4.50mg - going to wait a bit longer Link to comment
steeley Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Long time no see Ever, Im taking the drop from 4.05 to 4 mgs geesz is that a legend drop. Just count me as the hero in taking the plunge. I've got a witness in the KurraWANG Souveneir ruler trip. Believe me. Crumbs, how many crumbs does it take to make a gram? Confusing, what? Still batting, as I wish all. But those body liners really take take the cake, you've either get out of the way of the ball, or defend. Seems like you can never take a run, but you still have to remain within your wicket. Hard toss. It's worth it in the end....... yay! Silly bugger. But dead set serious. Within my wicket. steeley As I'm back at the wickey and keep defending, I've had enough in the head. Likewise too. All those who are having a hard time at the start of the pitch, keep battig, it works, just take time. Prescribed 30mg Mirtazapine approximately 10 years ago. PTSD C/T 50% of dose - dreadful, hellish Begin to reduce by 10% every 3-6 weeks now: 5.11.14 4.50mg - going to wait a bit longer Link to comment
steeley Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 It says that my post is to short......who is the editor? I think it is me, I write stuff and then it goes haywire and I get lost in Gaza, and there is no way out because I can't edit and amend my typo's/mistakes. Oh well, guess I'm not chiseling in stone. Who's at silly mid-on? As always, your friend steeley Prescribed 30mg Mirtazapine approximately 10 years ago. PTSD C/T 50% of dose - dreadful, hellish Begin to reduce by 10% every 3-6 weeks now: 5.11.14 4.50mg - going to wait a bit longer Link to comment
Ever Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Oh Steeley Steeley lol. So good to see you. That is just the coolest drop ever! lololol. I'll be back to you shortly my friend. Put on Prothiaden for severe depression in 1989. Recovered. Prescribed Paxil for another bout of depression around 2000. Have been trying to taper ever since but always crash about 2 months after getting to zero. Because of the crashes, for years I thought that there was something wrong with me. Then found that the crashes were simply withdrawal. Now following a maximum of a 10% reduction every month or so and ready to slow down any time I feel any symptoms whatsoever. Feeling good:). 7th Jan 15 - 3.6mg 28th Jan 15 - 3.2mg Link to comment
steeley Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Oh Ever, I thought you had ditched me (pun intended), and really hoped that you would get back to me after my rammbling last post. My computer won't allow me to edit, but I think I had one wine too many and that didn't help any in the cognition department. Just get tired of it all sometimes and a wine sometimes sounds really good. Hope you are still on the same trajectory as before, and that you are still symptom free. I doff my hat to anyone (your special though) who gets through this ordeal. I'm trying to slowly get back to my old friends, and new now, I hope, as I readjust to SA following the fiasco of the clsoing of PP, which I DO put down to burnout on the part of the mods. No ill feelings anymore. I must admit that I do miss PP, but I guess that's to be expected we all went through a lot of stuff together on that site, but hope that the same sort of support can be forged with SA. As always steeley Prescribed 30mg Mirtazapine approximately 10 years ago. PTSD C/T 50% of dose - dreadful, hellish Begin to reduce by 10% every 3-6 weeks now: 5.11.14 4.50mg - going to wait a bit longer Link to comment
steeley Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 And now I've got to go and find Brassmonkey. Prescribed 30mg Mirtazapine approximately 10 years ago. PTSD C/T 50% of dose - dreadful, hellish Begin to reduce by 10% every 3-6 weeks now: 5.11.14 4.50mg - going to wait a bit longer Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted February 10, 2015 Moderator Share Posted February 10, 2015 Sneaking up behind you Steeley with a >>>>>>>>>>GOTCHA<<<<<<<<<< 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
steeley Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 You got no hope Bob Hope (can't use 'smilies' sometimes so, smile. My brother has just arrived so must go. Back soon. Hope all is well. steeley Prescribed 30mg Mirtazapine approximately 10 years ago. PTSD C/T 50% of dose - dreadful, hellish Begin to reduce by 10% every 3-6 weeks now: 5.11.14 4.50mg - going to wait a bit longer Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted March 5, 2015 Administrator Share Posted March 5, 2015 Ever, how are you doing? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
AmyK Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Ever, we havent seen you in a long time. How are you? Take care! Current dose: 0! Free! Quit June 2017. 2017: Last dose zoloft: 17 June 0,00065 mg 18 May 0, 001 mg 14 May 0,002 mg 9 May 0,003 mg 28 April 0,006 mg 19 April 0,009 mg 8 April 0,013 mg 25 March 0,019 mg 22 March 0,039 mg 18 March 0,052 mg 16 March 0,079 mg 4 March 0,086 1 March 0,099 mg 22 February 0,11 mg 15 February 0,13 mg 6 February 0,145 mg 24 January 0,15 mg 19 January 0,19 mg 10 January 0,20 mg 3 January 2016: 0,98 to 0,22 mg; 2015: 2,35 to 1,01 mg; 2014: 4,9 to 2,5 mg; 2013: 9,1 to 5,1 mg; 2012: 15,7 to 9,7 mg; 2011: Started on 25 mg - then 50 mg- dropped to 25- to 12.5 mg - back to 25 mg - after 18.75 mg started tiny tapering to 16.6 mg Started on 25 mg Zoloft in March 2011 due to stressrelated tinnitus that gave me panicattacks. Had a terrible reaction to Zoloft from start, but was told to "hold on". After four months I was stuck. Therefore the long taper. Crazy, I know... Super sensitive to drops and have dropped by 4-6 % from the previous dose. Link to comment
nz11 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Ever how are you doing. Are you able to give us an update. I am feeling a little worried about you. nz11 3.42am Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment
nz11 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Ever you havent checked in since 17 feb 2015. Please tell us you are ok. Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment
nz11 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Ever if you are out there i hope you are going well. nz11 Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment
nz11 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Ever from one kiwi to another there is an important wdl survey being carried out it would be great to have your voice added to it. Hope this post finds you well. nz11 Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment
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