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thecowisback

it looks like the first site has gone but i'll have a look at the other one - thankyou ☺

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Altostrata

Please discuss your own personal reinstatement issues in your Introductions topic, @thecowisback

 

Your chart is remarkable, @Lloyd. Is there another column where you identified the member? That would have been helpful for follow-up.

 

 

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Lloyd
19 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

Please discuss your own personal reinstatement issues in your Introductions topic, @thecowisback

 

Your chart is remarkable, @Lloyd. Is there another column where you identified the member? That would have been helpful for follow-up.

 

 

Hi Alto, sorry didn't include the members names in the spreadsheet.

 

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Altostrata

Can you identify and add them?

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Lloyd
2 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Please discuss your own personal reinstatement issues in your Introductions topic, @thecowisback

 

Your chart is remarkable, @Lloyd. Is there another column where you identified the member? That would have been helpful for follow-up.

 

 

 

 

Here you go 😃

 

SADrugReinstatement.xlsx

 

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DavidfromTexas

Is it possible to reinstate with a different drug than the original one?

If so, that seems it would be a better alternative than having to deal with dividing up beads of Cymbalta, where the beads may be designed differently even though they look the same. 

A different drug might be able to be sized down easier, or may come in much smaller doses in the first place. 

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Kittygiggles

@DavidfromTexas You've probably thought of it or considered it in the past but if you're facing difficulty trusting your dosages now, it could be a time to reconsider water titration as a method of reducing your dose accurately:

However, I am not sure if Cymbalta dissolves in water very well; if it does then the difference in bead composition would no longer be an issue. I used water titration with Prozac/fluoxetine and the contents of the capsules dissolved perfectly, although it was a powder inside, not beads. 

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ChessieCat
1 hour ago, DavidfromTexas said:

Is it possible to reinstate with a different drug than the original one?

If so, that seems it would be a better alternative than having to deal with dividing up beads of Cymbalta, where the beads may be designed differently even though they look the same. 

A different drug might be able to be sized down easier, or may come in much smaller doses in the first place. 

 

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ChessieCat
1 hour ago, Kittygiggles said:

However, I am not sure if Cymbalta dissolves in water very well; if it does then the difference in bead composition would no longer be an issue.

 

On 5/7/2011 at 5:26 AM, Altostrata said:

 

Cymbalta is tricky to taper. It does not come in liquid form and cannot be compounded into a liquid. To protect the drug, each bead inside the gelatin capsule has an enteric coating to protect the drug from stomach acid, which would destroy the drug. (It is absorbed further down in the digestive tract.) The pellets cannot be dissolved in any liquid without destroying the active ingredient.

 

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Kittygiggles

I'm sorry, I had no idea, forgive my ignorance about this. That's so unfortunate for those on Cymbalta. Hopefully bridging will work out, if you decide to try it. 

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Rhiannon

Just FYI to add to the total information on this subject:  I tapered very slowly off citalopram but took the last bit from about 0.3 mg down pretty fast, and jumped off at 0.1 mg in early June 2019. Had no acute symptoms, but got hit with the 3-month delayed withdrawal in August. I reinstated to 0.05 mg about the last week of August. It's 10/3/19 today and I am feeling much better. My sleep is still not quite back to normal but everything else is good.

 

So in my case, a reinstatement a little over three months out, to half the dose I stopped off at, after what was mostly a very slow taper but went a little too fast at the end -- I would say it has been successful.

 

Hope this helps somebody.

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mdwstrx
1 hour ago, Rhiannon said:

after what was mostly a very slow taper but went a little too fast at the end

 

Thank you for your  update.  I'm happy to hear you're feeling better! 🌞

 It does concern me that after a slow taper to 0.1 mg, you had the 3 month delayed w/d.

 Isn't that a good point to stop?  I've not read about others doing a proper taper and having to reinstate,

though I guess it happens.  Not good news for us if it does often.  I wonder what makes a difference

between successful and unsuccessful slow tapers?  

 

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Lostboytravles
On 2/12/2019 at 12:00 AM, Lloyd said:

Hi All,

 

Was trying to get an overall idea of how reinstatement worked for people who had posted their stories in this thread. I have compiled a spreadsheet (attached) which details all the user experiences shared in this thread in hopefully an easy to read quick view.

Some of the feedback was a little hard to gather exact details from, however you should be able to at a glance see how many people reported success with reinstatement and the time windows reported.

Hope this helps 😃

 

Edit: I should add that the majority of user experiences reported an improvement in symptoms after reinstatement.

 

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Wow, thanks so much.  Always amazed at the work people put into this site.  My depressed mind was definitely fixating on all the negative experiences in this thread. Looking at that spreadsheet, the results from Lexapro RI are actually quite positive.  I never would have reached that conclusion on my own.

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Snorky

My questions are:

 

What happens if reinstatement failed (for whatever reason?

 

What then happens if ongoing WD or deferred adverse effects become utterly unbearable?

 

Thank you.

 

 

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Altostrata

We want to see what happens with reinstatement first. Plan B is different for everyone.

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