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I knew id opened the door with that comment.

Good one Andy lol !!

You trumped me !

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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Hey , Jan started it .   :D    What can I say - I took the ball and ran with it  and then of course Andy had to get involved !  LOL. :)    I will definitely hold my breath for 2 more months awaiting the 6 year update.  Much patience will be needed.

It better be good. I'll be out of puff by then !  

Ali 

Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014

 

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We'd have to build a wall around Queenstown to Trump you. lol  

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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AliG- sounds like you are stabilizing with your patience.

 

Brass -  Hey nice to hear from you thanks for popping into my thread. Just thought i'd point out Queenstown already has a massive wall around it ... called mountains.bg1.jpg

 

Clearly Queenstown's been naturally Trumped!

 

nz11

Think i might move to Queenstown.

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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Aah the Southern Alps, some of my faves.  Looks like Queenstown will be worth a visit one of these days. NZ is on our short list for upcoming travel.  Then I'll have the pair, I was born in Kingstown.

 

I don't say much, but your thread's on my follow list so I can keep tabs on you.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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Well here goes i now make my 2,000th  post. Thought it wouldnt happen until christmas 2016...but i did a bit of a surge for the line.

 

I passed the 1,900 mark dead even with the Brass and was hoping to go over the line together.

So shall just sit for a while until he catches me. Let me know when you are in NZ Brass.

 

At prior place i did 2,000 posts there too but it took about 4 years. This time its taken 1.75 years.

 

I am very grateful for this site and also appreciative of all the tremendous work the moderators and Alto put in on a volunteer basis.

 

ok who was the rotter who put my 'dose equiv calc' speadsheet into the internet -o-sphere? I was doing a google and found it lol !! People should be forced to go through sa before they can get access to that.

 

I still pinch myself when i realise im a member of a drug addicts recovery site. How the heck did that happen.

This is not how i imagined my life would turn out even in my worst nightmare. I am the last person in the world that would be found here. Its truly a staggering betrayal.

 

Thanks and regards

Platinum Star.

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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Hey NZ.  You are a star , whether it be platinum or gold !  :)   Congratulations.

Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014

 

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Nz I'm not new to the site I've been reading everyone's story's for the last 2 years and its given me so much hope seeing how others have coped . And I enjoy reading all about you and many others here. Today is the first time i have been able to post so just wanted to say thank you

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"At prior place i did 2,000 posts there too but it took about 4 years. This time its taken 1.75 years."

 

Nice to see that you're finally coming out of your shell. LOL  Don't hold back on my account as your contributions are always worth reading.


At prior place i did 2,000 posts there too but it took about 4 years. This time its taken 1.75 years.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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Thanks for popping in to comment and kind words AliG , Brass and doggiemama.

 

doggiemama im honored to be chosen as  the precipitating catalyst thread  in crystallizing a doggiemama  into sa. Welcome.

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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"This is not how i imagined my life would turn out even in my worst nightmare."

 

I think this line is very long Nz... I am glad you a prolific poster here you have added a great deal of work and insight to SA... from me ...

thank you

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Thanks btdt that is a very cryptic sentence...the one from you i mean.

 

I always enjoy hanging out with you in this community of hope.

 

Fingers of titanium you are my inspiration.

 

Correction: Just looked again at the dose equiv calculator and i was wrong it is attached to sa and not floating independantly.

 

Found out a family member was given nortriptyline for a sore neck today. They hadnt as yet started to take it, phew,  and i can tell you right now that after i talked to them they will not be taking it EVER.

Get this they weren't even told it was an ad.

Just like i wasnt told also all those years ago. Its just criminal it really is.

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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I had to look up cryptic really my poor brain is wore down... 

 

I mean many people would say the same as you not what they expected their lives would be like it is a long long line none of us thought we would spend years messed up from taking a drug a doc gave us ... nobody wants to spend ten years on wd site or in wd.. 

nobody

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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NZ,

 

Didn't get a chance to respond sooner.  You are indeed a "platinum" person!

 

While nobody WANTS to be here, we are very pleased you are and about your great contributions.

 

You have healed a lot and continue to do so, and your story is an inspirational one.

 

Thank you,

 

Andy

Sertraline 50mg and Clonazapam .375mg from 2000 -- symptoms of dizziness Spring 2012

increased to .5 Clonazapam and 100mg Sertraline -- no improvement

Benzo microtaper from November 2012 to November 2014 (followed benzo sites "taper benzo first")

Started Sertraline taper in December 2014 cut by 25mg to 75mg; 62.5mg 1/1/15 and 50mg on 2/1/15

Held at 50mg through April 5 to use liquid 
Reduced dosage in 10% or less drops from 50mg to 25mg -- at single tablet of 25mg on 10/5/15

Transitioned to all liquid for accuracy while tapering -- Horrible insomnia -- back to 25mg liquid and held until October 1, 2016

10/16 -- 11/18 tapered very slowly to 10.6mg.  No real improvement and never really stable so updosed to 12.5mg (1/2 a pill) for convenience and long hold.

After 8+ months of holding with no noticeable improvement decided to add .4ml of liquid Prozac (about 1.5mg) to see if that improves the situation

Supplements, Magnesium, D3, Omega 3, curcumin, Valerian, 81mg Aspirin, L-Theanine, Vit. C,

 

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oh now i see what you are saying btdt.

Thanks Andy for your more than kind words.

 

You are both awesome encouragers. :)

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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Thank you nz for everything.

 

75 mcg levothyroxine 

10 mcg liothyronine

25 mg hydrochlorothiazide 

Nearly 30 years of benzos, antidepressants, antipsychotics, et. al. 

 

Drug free September 9, 2019

 

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Thank you nz for everything.

You're welcome Marsha.

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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28 Sept 2016 – 6 yrs drug free today

 

I can still remember when babs was doing a 6 year update and I was about 6 months drug free I was so envious and I just couldn’t imagine making it to 6 years but here I am, I did it.

 

My celebration of 6 yrs drug free was a deep sea fishing trip and i got real bad sea sickness  6 hours into a 12 hour trip ...oh boy i thought i was going to die. However i reminded myself that this trip will end after 6 hours and NOT 6 years like ssri wdl. Glad to be back on land again and its the end of yearly drug free celebrations. 

 

This quote from Breggin continues to be my all-time favourite quote for yet another year and never so true as it has been in this past year.

“After withdrawal from medication has been partially or fully completed, previously medication spellbound individuals often realize for the first time that they were significantly impaired in that they are now recovering and returning to themselves.” Breggin 2013.

 

And here is a delightful one I stumbled upon this year:

“It was extremely obvious I was suffering ssri withdrawal.” Alto

 

And the best of all

“Psychiatry is stuffed full of “deep nonsense”, better known as bullsh*t.” McLaren 2016

 

The Good

I feel as if I’ve had the best improvements in yr 6. That’s not to say I didn’t have some prior to this but so far yr 6 has been the best.

Why do I say this?

  1. I quit all voluntary efforts and started to play sport again albeit at a very  humble and humiliating level. I’m outraged that withdrawal rendered me so disabled I couldn’t play sport for 6 years. A sport that I had played passionately on a weekly basis or more for the previous 35 years.  I joined a club where no one knew me...  Anyway after five months someone quietly said to me, ‘nz11 you have improved so much since you joined we are all surprised’ , Gee if only they knew.
  1. Levels of disabling disorientating crippling brain fog continue to improve to new receded levels.
  2. Anyone notice I haven’t been posting that much lately… It’s because I’ve started to work part-time. And starting next month I will be full-time casual until Christmas. Not sure I have the strength to manage this new challenge  but as always I’m up for it. After many years of unemployment I am very thankful for this opportunity. Although I still feel chronic fatigued and weak I am stronger than a year ago.
  3. I’m reluctant to share this one as I know improvements can be easily lost within a few days however I thought it would never happen but I have lost nearly 10 kg this year I would like to lose another five. Many talk about losing wgt when they went drug free but i never did. This has been a very pleasant surprise. Im hoping i dont find it again.
  4. Iatrogenic stress intolerance continues to improve. Although I still feel my emotional response mechanism is compromised at times.

The Bad

  1. Flatulence, loose bowels and leaking urine when urinating (sorry TMI ) continues.
  2. Still can’t sleep with any regularity and continue to wake between 2 to 4:30 am every day. With 3 -4am being very common wake up times. Yesterday I woke at 4.52 and thought great an improvement then I realised just three days prior we put our clocks forward one hour for spring.
  3. Still feel apathetic about life and anhedonic and very aware of feelings and passions and desires that I should have but I don’t. Hoping they might improve in yr 7....
  4. I’ve run out of targets to send complaint letters to. Just when I was improving in my letter writing skills oh well maybe this is a good thing after all.

 

 

The Ugly

 

Starts with P and ends in D.

Its as worse today as it has ever been. There has been no improvement whatsoever. In fact just this week I was thinking if  someone were to Chris Jenner me  I’d wake up  and notice very little difference. I’ve accepted that this as permanent damage. Perhaps resigned is a better word than accepted.(Please dont lecture me on a pessimistic attitude blah blah blah blah, ive been more than patient).

 

Improvements have always begun with a thought, Oh I think I will get up off the floor and go for a walk now, oh I think I will ride my bike again now, oh I think I will join the sports club now. Oh I think I would like to start working again. These thoughts have come as I stated once before not because I must, or I may, or I should but rather simply because I can.

 

oh yeah im into smoothies now too bought an online secondhand blender and i'm away.

 

That’s about it from me if you don’t hear much from me over the coming months …it’s because I will be busy  …. kick starting my re-entry into the rat race.

 

As always thank you to Alto for this site i'm very appreciative and thankful for it.

The moderators also continue to be an inspiration and boy that scallywag sure can do some impressive postings. My withdrawal OCD in posting seems to be receding and i think thats a good thing too.

 

How anyone can survive ssri wdl without such a community of hope as this is hard to imagine.

So if you think you will never improve don’t give up hope, hang in there, be patient and wait for the year 6 and you might be surprised!

In the meantime keep pushing the envelope but do it gently.

 

nz11

Unemployment is not working!

I'm off to find my dictionary ...id like to know what this word 'esteemed' means...

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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Congratulations!!!  Sorry to hear about the sea sickness, but as you said, it was short term.

 

All the best with your work.  It's a great news post, that's for sure.

 

Best wishes, CC

NEW!!!              INTERVIEW with Altostrata, SA's founder               NEW!!! 

 

ADs:  25 years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering Oct 2015  Current from 14 Nov 2020:  Pristiq 0.50 mg

My tapering program                                      My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

REMINDER TO SELF:  I don't need the drug now, but my still brain does.

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Awesome news nz!  I'll miss seeing you around the site over the next few months.  At least I'll have your thread, all 20 pages of it, and your 2000+ posts to fill the gap. ;)

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.
1997-1999 Effexor; 2002-2005 Effexor XR 37.5 mg linear taper, dropping same #beads/week with bad results

Cymbalta 60 mg 2012 - 2015; 2016: 20 mg to 7 mg exact doses and dates in this post; 2017: 6.3 mg to  0.0 mg  Aug. 12; details here


scallywag's Introduction
Online spreadsheet for dose taper calculations and nz11's THE WORKS spreadsheet

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NZ,

 

Great to hear that there has been so much improvement.  I think a lot of the bad will continue to slowly migrate to the good.  As far as the ugly -- I won't lecture you -- it's not in my nature.  I will, however, continue to hold out hope for you in that regard.

 

If you've shown so much improvement that your teammates are amazed over 5 months, you should be fine dealing with the full-time work.  It will probably serve to make you stronger.

 

My best to you,

 

Andy

Sertraline 50mg and Clonazapam .375mg from 2000 -- symptoms of dizziness Spring 2012

increased to .5 Clonazapam and 100mg Sertraline -- no improvement

Benzo microtaper from November 2012 to November 2014 (followed benzo sites "taper benzo first")

Started Sertraline taper in December 2014 cut by 25mg to 75mg; 62.5mg 1/1/15 and 50mg on 2/1/15

Held at 50mg through April 5 to use liquid 
Reduced dosage in 10% or less drops from 50mg to 25mg -- at single tablet of 25mg on 10/5/15

Transitioned to all liquid for accuracy while tapering -- Horrible insomnia -- back to 25mg liquid and held until October 1, 2016

10/16 -- 11/18 tapered very slowly to 10.6mg.  No real improvement and never really stable so updosed to 12.5mg (1/2 a pill) for convenience and long hold.

After 8+ months of holding with no noticeable improvement decided to add .4ml of liquid Prozac (about 1.5mg) to see if that improves the situation

Supplements, Magnesium, D3, Omega 3, curcumin, Valerian, 81mg Aspirin, L-Theanine, Vit. C,

 

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"Now We Are Six" congratulations Christopher Robin. You were one of the first to post on my thread back at Prior Place.  Watching the growth and changes you've been through over the years (five as of this week) has been inspiring, instructional and kept me on my toes.  I am so happy for you with the new directions, jobs and activities. Living proof that we can do it.  I will continue to be optimistic that the last vestiges will clear and you will be pleasantly surprised one morning. Touch wood. (I couldn't help that LOL)

 

All my best...

 

Tom

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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cc , i think your great informative emails are making a difference keep at it. Keep up the good work

Andy, Yes you are right exercise has slowly built up my strength. Thanks for the encouragement.

Caperjackie, Thanks for popping in Glad to hear from you. Go well

SW - I dont know how you do it with all your amazing prolific help to others ...dont forget to eat and drink and sleep sw, thanks for all the great work you are doing. 

Brass- i opened myself up again to another BM classic. Just cant help it really. Go well. Must be only another month or two for you.

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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Hi nZ11,

 

Congratulations to your 6 yr anniversary of being drug free!

I always enjoy your post full of great wisdom and humor!

 

Wish you best of all continuing healing!

 

Lex

Drug free Sep. 23 2017

2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks.

2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg

2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain

2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain;

2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain

2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg,

2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on

2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks.

2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR

2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg,8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg, 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg

2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg,

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This quote from Breggin continues to be my all-time favourite quote for yet another year and never so true as it has been in this past year.

“After withdrawal from medication has been partially or fully completed, previously medication spellbound individuals often realize for the first time that they were significantly impaired in that they are now recovering and returning to themselves.” Breggin 2013.

 

  1. Anyone notice I haven’t been posting that much lately… It’s because I’ve started to work part-time. And starting next month I will be full-time casual until Christmas. Not sure I have the strength to manage this new challenge  but as always I’m up for it. 

 

 

Hi nz11,

 

Congratulations on your six-year milestone! 

 

That's great that you're starting to work full-time. That's really an accomplishment to be celebrated. I'm sure you will do just fine. 

 

I love the Breggin quote about spellbinding -- going to add it to my thread. :)

 

Keep us posted! 

Current: 2019: 0.04 mg Paxil!! This is real. Soon, after taking Paxil my entire adult life, I will be free.

Long story short: After 18 years on Paxil, "tapered" almost completely off over a month, at doctor's advice in July 2015.

Self-care includes magnesium, reasonable exercise, mindfulness, this forum and nutrition/eating enough food.

Also on 100 mg Zoloft unfortunately!! (which I now will have the knowledge to taper properly)

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Longer version: On Paxil since 1996--anxiety & depression caused by (undiagnosed) under-eating / eating disorder.

Doctor kept increasing dose, up to 60 mg; it never really helped but said it really was the best "med" for me.

Rapid doctor-led "taper" July 2015, down to 5 mg, with Zoloft as a "cross-taper" = Essentially a cold turkey. 

Severe withdrawal but didn't know it; believed it was my "underlying condition," and kept tapering, 5mg to 4 to 3  to 2 to 1.  

Feb 2016: Found SA! As of June 2016, tapering from 1mg at rate of 5-10% per month, Brassmonkey Slide! 

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Well done mate :) Very well done

Started Citalopram in 2005 (aged 15) for apparent "OCD" - 60mg 

July 2015 attempted 2 x 10% + cuts 4 weeks apart. WD symptoms intense at times. Need to slow down.

 

November 2016 - Resumed taper. 1.25 - 1.5% decrease weekly approx.

44.5mg November 2016. Jan 2017 42.5 mg. March 2017 40 mg. June 2017 37mg. September 2018 22mg. Nov 2018 Holding at 22mg to stabilise from moderate wave. January 2020 - Holding, mostly feeling fine, but still having some waves at times. 

 

February 2020 - Resumed taper , 1.5% reduction weekly/every two weeks. 

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Thanks lex sky blue and nick

Hey nick I can't believe the number of kiwis on venlafaxine

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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".......I'm off to find my dictionary ...id like to know what this word 'esteemed' means..."

 

Look no further than an adjective describing yourself, nz11.

 

Very best wishes.

Born 1945. 

1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine

2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor.  13Jul - 212.5mg;  6Aug - 200.0mg;  24Aug - 187.5mg;  13Sep - 175.0mg;  3Oct - 162.5mg;  26Oct - 150mg 

2017  9Jan - 150.00mg;  23Mar - 137.50mg;  24Apr - 125.00mg;  31May - 112.50mg holding;  3Sep - 100.00mg;  20Sep - 93.75mg;  20Oct - 87.5mg;  12Nov - 81.25mg;  13 Dec - 75.00mg

2018  18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg

2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside.  7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result.

Supps/Vits  Omega 3;  Chelated Magnesium;  Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. 

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NZ . You did it -  6 years. Congratulations !  :)

 

This quote from Breggin continues to be my all-time favourite quote for yet another year and never so true as it has been in this past year.

“After withdrawal from medication has been partially or fully completed, previously medication spellbound individuals often realize for the first time that they were significantly impaired in that they are now recovering and returning to themselves.” Breggin 2013.

 

I love this quote too. It kind of says it all doesn't it. I often think of the lyrics in " Amazing Grace" -  " I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see. "

 

It's nice to think that we are slowly returning to our " authentic selves " . Sometimes it's hard to believe it will ever happen but in time it does albeit slowly.

 

It's lovely to hear of your improvements and I hope they continue to expand into a permanent window of recovery. 

Hugs,

Ali

Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014

 

                                                  Psych Drug - free since May 2014
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Thanks peng

 

esteem

v

mid-15c., from Middle French estimer (14c.), from Latin aestimare "to value, appraise," perhaps ultimately from *ais-temos "one who cuts copper," i.e. mints money (but de Vaan finds this "not very credible"). At first used as we would now use estimate ; sense of "value, respect" is 1530s. Related: Esteemed ; esteeming.

 

n

(also steem, extyme), mid-14c., "account, worth," from French estime, from estimer (see esteem (v.)). Meaning "high regard" is from 1610s.

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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Thanks AliG

Breggin is the best. imo

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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Thought i would share one of my (many) letters ....

 

Pharmac is the gatekeeper for drugs into New Zealand. Basically everyone eventually refuses to correspond and say 'We refuse to answer any more of your letters, go complain to pharmac' so i eventually did. (I used one or two alto-isms can you spot them?)

 

 May 2016 

                                                                                         

PHARMAC 

PO Box 10254

The Terrace

Wellington 6143

 

Dear Sir

It appears that all roads (of complaint) lead to Pharmac. As such I advise that I have been grievously harmed both on and coming off paroxetine. The prescribing of SSRIs/SNRIs is totally unacceptable to me.

 

Having been held hostage for many years, trapped in a mind numbing kafkaesque anosognosic world, by a doctor simply maintaining a drug addiction and pharma prescribing kickbacks (Paroxetine, 2012 has a staggering 3 billion fine attached to it with GSK guilty of paying doctors prescribing kickbacks!) by uninformed consent, no diagnosis, no clinical assessment, ever. (A doctor who has retrospectively compromised my medical file, made false statements to regulatory authorities and who left the ACC Case Manager for a ‘Medical Misadventure’ claim disgusted and appalled).

 

Having to experience unimaginable unemployable akathisic trauma in withdrawal from this drug to be left very damaged. Contrary to popular belief withdrawal symptoms can go on for years as they have for myself.

 

I now discover that these iatrogenic outcomes are well documented. On 25 June 14 an HDC Advocate advised by phone that Wong had totally refused to meet to discuss the sexual damage, the withdrawal trauma or the absence of any tapering advice. I know of no other profession that can behave like this except for perhaps professional con-artists and scammers. The NZMC have written to Wong (refer attached) to inform him that informed consent should be obtained prior to off label poisoning, clinical assessments done and uncompromised medical records kept.

 

Look into the drug trials and marketing approval process for these chemicals and you will find a humiliating nefarious orchestrated litany of lies, fraud and deceit.

 

As the gatekeeper and safety intermediary for this nation Pharmac have been complicit in exposing people to an epidemic of deadly dangerous chemicals. For Wong to push chemicals under the guise of not addictive, safe and no side effects is unacceptable.

 

Informed consent includes but it is not limited to;

 

Being told: Over 90% of academic articles about on-patent drugs are ghostwritten and in 100% of cases the data from controlled trials remains sequestered by the drug companies. Poisoned literature is being used as propaganda. As a result it’s impossible for a doctor to obtain informed consent.

 

Being told: “Anti-depressants are extremely addictive and extreme care must be taken when a user begins to wean off the medication.  Any abrupt changes in dosage can cause suicidal and homicidal reactions” (Tracey 2006).

 

“[sSRI] withdrawal I would argue is potentially the worst of all chemical withdrawals, I cannot think of a chemical on earth that is more challenging to come off of, I have patients in my practice that I taper off by one thousandth of a milligram a month. I have never heard of someone struggling to come off of heroin or oxycontin at this rate. I have never heard of anything comparable to this. It is so disabling that patients develop neurologic symptoms, they develop cataclysmic mood syndromes, they develop impulsivity and violence totally out of character for them. It’s pretty horrifying."(Brogan 2016).

 

ome developed delayed and post withdrawal akathisia weeks and months after stopping and withdrawal akathisia which went on for years, many felt physically disabled.” (Lucire, 2016).

 

Being told: “Within the first week of when you go on an antidepressant you may have a sexual dysfunction, it can go on forever, often only appearing when you go off the drug….its extraordinarily common.” …

I believe that the SSRI era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine.” (Healy 2015).

 

Being told: Of the Drayton Sher Lawyers (see attached) and Fortitude Law litigation Class Action Suits. Note how Wong appeared in a 2012 local paper (see attached) declaring ‘Pill-Popping Ends’. Why does it take a complaint to the HDC to trigger this? And what of his existing SSRI victims? He would no doubt say ‘They have chosen to be on the drug.’ I would reply they are suffering drug induced spellbinding by uninformed consent, held hostage by a so called doctor whose ‘vacuum of knowledge’ in this area means he is unable to get them out from under the addictive weight of these dreadful poisons and is all too happy to blame the patient washing his hands of any responsibility for the disgusting position HE put them in and the H.O. morphing into ‘First admit no harm’. These are not ‘for-ever’ drugs they are ‘for-never’ drugs.

 

 Being told: There is no difference between individual SSRIs and they are all worse than useless. (Kirsch 2009).

 

Being Told: There are hundreds of side effects, known and unknown - paroxetine PIL disclosing:

Somnolence, Insomnia, Agitation, Tremor, Anxiety, Dizziness, Constipation, Nausea Diarrhea, Dry mouth, Vomiting, Flatulence, Asthenia, Abnormal ejaculation, Sweating Impotence, Libido decreased, Headache, Palpitation, Vasodilation, Rash, Decreased appetite, Oropharynx Disorder, Dyspepsia, Myopathy, Myalgia, Myasthenia, Tremor, Nervousness, Paresthesia, Drugged Feeling, Confusion, Yawn, Blurred Vision, Taste Perversion, Male genital disorders, Urinary Frequency, Urination disorder, Female genital disorders. Abdominal Pain, Back pain, Chest pain, Chills, Trauma, Concentration impaired, Depersonalization, Myoclonus, Amnesia, Rhinitus, Phryngitis, Abnormal vision, Dysmenorrhea, Urinary tract infection, Dysphagia, Sinusitis, Abnormal dreams, Infection, Depression, Flu syndrome, Cough increased, Hyperkinesia, Malaise, Allergic reaction, Face edema, Moniliasis, adrenergic syndrome, cellulitis, neck rigidity, Pelvic pain, Pertonitis, Ulcer, Hypertension, Tachycardia, Arrhythmia nodal, Atrial fibulation, Bundle branch block, cerebral ischemia, cerebrovascular accident, congestive heart failure, heart block low cardiac outut, Myocardial infarct, Myocadial ischemia, pallor, Phlebitis, Pulmonary embolus, Suraventricular extrasystoles, Thrombosis, Varicose vein, Vascular headache, Ventricular extrasystoles Bruxism, Colitis, Eructation, Gastritis, Gastroenteritis, Gingivitis, Glossitis, Increased salivation, Liver function tests abnormal, Rectal hemorrhage, Ulcerative stomatitis, Aphthous stomatitis, Bloody diarrhea, Bulimia, Cholelithiasis, Duodenitis, Enteritis, Esophagitis, Eosophagitis, Fecal impactions, Fecal incontinence, Gum hemorrhage, Hematemesis, Hepatitis, Ileus, Intetinal obstruction, Jaundice, Melena, Mouth ulceration, Peptic ulcer, Salivary gland enlargement, Stomach ulcer, Stomatitis Tongue discoloration Tongue edema Tooth cavities, Diabetes Mellitus Goiter Hyperthyroidism Hypothyroidism Thyroiditis, Anemia Eosinophilia Leukocytosis, Leukopenia, Lymphadenopathy Purpura Abnormal erythrocytes Basophilia Bleeding time -increased Hypochromic anemia Iron deficiency anemia, Lymphedema, abnormal lymphocytes, lymphocytosis, Microcytic anemia, Monocytosis, Normocytic anemia, Amenorrhea, Breast pain, Cystitis, Dysuria, Hematuria, Menorrhagia Nocturia Polyuria Urinary incontinence Urinary retention Urinary urgency Vaginal moniliasis  Vaginitis Breast atrophy Breast enlargement Endometrial disorder Epididymitis Neuralgia Neuropathy Nystagmus Peripheral neuritis Psychotic depression Reflexes decreased, Reflexes increased Stupor Torticollis Trismus   Bloody diarrhea Bulimia Cholelithiasis,  Duodenitis Enteritis Esophagitis Fecal impactions Fecal inconti, Thrombocythemia, Thrombocytoenia, Weight gain, Weight loss, SGOT increased SGPT increased Thirst Bilirubinemia, BUN increased Creatine phosphokinase increased, dehydration, gamma gobulins increased Gout Hypercalcemia, Hypercholesteremia, Hyperglycemia, Hyperkalemia, Hyperphosphatemia, Hypocalcemia, Hypoglycemia, Hypokalemia, Hyponatremia, Ketosis, Lactic dehydrogenase increased, NPG increased, Arthralgia, Arthritis, Arthrosis, Bursitis, Myositis, Osteoporosis, Generalized spasm, Tenosynovitis, Tetany. Emotional Lability [This is a smoke screen term to hide what is drug induced suicidal reactions (Study329 Restored)], Vertigo Abnormal thinking Alcohol abuse Ataxia Delirium Dystonia Dyskinesia Euphoria Hallucinations Hostility Hypertonia Hypesthesia, Hypokinesia, Incoordination, Lack of emotion, Libido increased, Manic reaction, Neurosis, Paralysis, Paranoid reaction, Psychosis, Abnormal gait, Akinisia,  Antisocial reaction Aphasia Choreoathetosis, Circumoral paresthesias, Convulsion Delusions, Diplopia, Drug dependence, Dysarthria, Extrapyramidal syndrome, Fasciculations, Grand mal convulsion, Hyperalgesia, Hysteria, Manic-depressive- reaction, Meningitis, Myelitis Neuralgia, Neuropathy, Nystagmus, Peripheral neuritis, Psychotic depression, Reflexes decreased, Reflexes increased, Stupor, Torticollis, Trismus, Withdrawal Syndrome [This can last for years!], Asthma Bronchitis Dyspnea Epistaxis Hyperventilation Pneumonia, Respiratory flu, Emphysema, Hemoptysis, Hiccups, Lung fibrosis, Pulmonary edema, Sputum increased, Voice alteration, Pruritus, Acne, Alopecia, Contact dermatitis, Dry skin, Ecchymosis, Eczema, Furunculosis, Heres simplex, Maculopapular rash,  Photosensitivity, Urticaria, Angiodema, Eruthema Nodosum, Erythema Multiforme, Exfoliative dermatitis, Fungal dermatitis, Herpes zoster,  Hirsutism, Seborrhea, Skin discoloration, Skin hypertrophy, Skin Ulcer, Vesiculobullous rash. Tinnitus, Abnormality of accommodation, Conjunctivitis, Ear pain, Eye pain, Mydriasis, Otitis Media, Photophobia, Amblyopia, Anisocoria, Blepharitis, Cataract, Conjuntival edema, Corneal ulcer, Deafness, Exophthalmus, Eye hemorrhage, Glaucoma, Hyperacusis, Keratoconjunctivitis, Night blindness, Otitis Externa, Parosmia, Ptosis, Retinal hemorrhage, Taste loss, Visual field defect, Abortion, Amenorrhea, Breast pain, Cystitis, Dysuria, Hematuria, Menorrhagia, Nocturia, Polyuria, Urinary incontinence, Urinary retention, Urinary urgency, Vaginal moniliasis, Vaginitis, Breast atrophy, Breast enlargement, Endometrial disorder, Epididymitis, Female lactation Fibrocystic breast, Kidney calculus, Kidney pain, Leukorrhea, Mastitis, Metrorrhagia, Nephritis Oliguria, Pyuria, Urethritis, Uterine Spasm, Urolith, Vaginal hemorrhage.

 

Being told: Of the existence of pharma prescribing kickbacks to GPs.

 

Being told: The withdrawal suffering may be so traumatizing that death may be a welcome relief and thousands have in fact chosen this option.

 

How did this horror story scripted by a doctor start?

 

A doctor pushed me into the slippery sloped rabbit hole of psychotropic drugs by  persuading  me to take a smorgasboard of  poisons by uninformed consent using ghostwritten abstracts and one of the great falsehoods of modern medicine to describe why I had a sore hand from using the computer….the ‘chemical imbalance’ delusion!

 

I look forward to hearing from you.

 

Yours sincerely

nz11

 

 

Here is the reply from Pharmac

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26 May 2016

 

Dear nz11

 

Thank you for your letter regarding paroxetine hydrochloride.


 I have passed your concerns onto the therapeutic group manager for neurology to be noted.

Paroxetine hydrochloride is a registered medicine with Medsafe, the New Zealand medicines and medical devices safety authority. It is responsible for the regulation of medicines, ensuring that they are acceptably safe and as paroxetine hydrochloride has been approved by Medsafe, they have deemed it safe for use in New Zealand.

We would recommend speaking with your doctor about alternative treatment as you have stated that paroxetine hydrochloride has caused you to have adverse effects.

I hope this is of some assistance.

Kind regards
Victoria London
Pharmac

 

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Alternative treatment....alternative treatment!!!???!! Clearly they didnt get the gist of my letter.

 

So i wrote back again...

 

 

2 June 2016

 

PHARMAC 

PO Box 10254

The Terrace

Wellington 6143

 

Dear Victoria

 

I refer to your letter of 26 May 2016.

 

I am sorry but I couldn’t disagree more with you and medsafe for there is a mountain of evidence that paroxetine is not safe. It is an extremely dangerous, addictive brain and life altering chemical.

 

I have attached just one example of evidence of this unfolding horror story from that drug.

 

Also you clearly are not aware of Study329restored so I attach the BMJ press release.

 

Did you look at the Drayton Sher Lawyers press release I sent you?

 

Okay so you say it is safe. Would you be so kind as to forward me one journal article that shows that. And I am not referring to a pharma advertising brochure.

 

Why are people not doing anything about this!!

 

If you look at the history of thalidomide the medical profession behaved in just the same way …deny, deny, deny, the drug was to blame.

 

Yours sincerely

 

nz11

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Pharmac then replied with a classic manouver which i have come to find very predictable from the medical profession...

First deny then when presented with unrefutable evidence either remain silent and refuse to engage or refer.

 

Here they do both but in reverse order.

 

27 June 2016

 

Dear nz11

 

Thank you for your follow-up letter.

We acknowledge the points you have raised with the evidence provided and would suggest submitting all your evidence to CARM. This is because Pharmacs role is to decide which medicines and related products are to be funded for use in the community and public hospitals and not monitoring medicines for adverse effects.

CARM is New Zealand's National monitoring Centre for adverse reactions. It collects  evaluates reports of adverse reactions to medicines, vaccines, herbal products and dietary supplements. By reporting to CARM you will be providing information it can use to make recommendations to the medicines regulator Medsafe, and what action may be required.

As previously stated, we recommend you speak with your doctor about alternative treatment options.

 

We now consider this matter to be closed.

Kind regards
Victoria London
Pharmac

 

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Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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And here is another to my local MP sent off at about the same time...

 

 

Local Member of Parliament

 

Dear Local Member of Parliament,

I believe we are currently witnessing in this nation a silent unprecedented and underestimated tragedy of epidemic proportions in health care. It’s regarding one of medicines dirtiest little secrets, in being told that antidepressants are safe, effective and not addictive, they are in fact anything but. Something needs to be done to help people get off these terrible chemicals.

 

 In 2012 we had approx. 420,000 people in this country on these dreadful poisons a doubling of the iatrogenic addicted numbers from only 6 years prior and let’s not forget, no one was on an SSRI back in 1988. Heaven knows what this figure is in 2016.

 

Fraudulent drug trials only went for one month so anyone taking these chemicals for longer is a participating guinea pig in a chemical experiment. Yet we are seeing people taking these drugs for many years!!

 

The medical profession needs help in knowing how to get people OFF these drugs safely. Manifesting symptoms of abstinence are erroneously used to blame and label the patient who in fact is suffering NOT from a flawed nature but from horrific drug withdrawal which in many cases can last for years, with symptoms often delayed for weeks or months.  

 

The work of Kirsch has revealed these chemicals are worse than useless. Yet it’s all been hidden. It’s a miracle I am still alive after what I have had to go through to break free of an off-label iatrogenic drug addiction. These drugs have taken addiction to a whole new galaxy and pharma have lied about it.

 

I attach recent documentation in respect of a complaint against my ex-doctor. In particular consider the statements from world authorities in light of the current numbers drugged, it’s frightening.

 

I also draw your attention to the class action suit by Drayton Sher Lawyers in Australia and their attached press release in 2015.

 

The Government desperately needs to improve oversight of the relationship between the pharmaceutical industry, doctors and the regulatory agencies and putting an end to and/or blocking/removing funding from organizations pushing falsehoods and delusional (chemical imbalance) myths. (I notice you are already removing funding for some and I applaud you for it).

 

Just consider Kirwans ‘depression’ (whatever that is) website. The public are being betrayed and mislead for they cannot be expected to be able to distinguish between scientific fact and marketing Blatant Silliness (BS). Much is at stake. People’s lives!

“He who would do a great evil must first of all convince himself he is doing a great good” (Gandhi).

 

We could start by stopping the DTC TV advertising ‘Just ask your doctor if venlafaxine is right for you.’ People are being herded into a horror story scripted by a pharma-indoctrinated doctor and are totally oblivious to the fate that awaits!  Secondly ban all new prescriptions of ssris/snris. Thirdly rescue and free those currently held hostage to them - not an easy task. Set up iatrogenic addiction withdrawal clinics.

 

If doctors continue the druggery at the current (to 2012) rate then putting this in perspective, this is the equivalent of the Aotea Centre being filled to capacity (2,139 people)  every 3.2 weeks with newly (SSRI) drugged (iatrogenically harmed) people.  .. this is a shameful national disgrace!

 

If independent non pharma funded research is correct ie long term outcomes on these chemicals is a worsening in all measures with people being left disabled, impaired and very ill then we would expect to see disability rates tracking upwards correlated with the soaring numbers of those ssri-drugged. 

 

Question: Is this in fact the case?

Answer:   What do you think? ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………PTO

 

 

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[The image of a graph of soaring psychiatric disability rates in NZ since the introduction of ssris was shown but image cant be uploaded here so just believe me in that it was a line graph tracking upwards, from 10,000 in 1991 to 50,000 in 2010].

 

All classes of psychiatric drugs can cause brain damage and lasting mental dysfunction when used for months or years. Although research data is lacking for a few individual drugs in each class, until proven otherwise it is prudent and safest to assume that the risks of brain damage and permanent mental dysfunction apply to every single psychiatric drug.  (Breggin, 2014). “These drugs are immensely harmful.” (Gotzsche, 2013). Claims made by drug companies about antidepressant drugs are deceitful and research fraudulent. (Scott, 2006).

 

I recently had the privilege and honor of being allowed onto the ‘inside’ of the medical profession to observe for 1 week. I wanted to see first- hand what on earth is going on. What I observed left me time and time again sick in my stomach. One such example I will never forget. A person came in from a failed suicide attempt. I requested to read the file notes and noticed that this person was trying to get off an SSRI whose doctor was clearly misinformed. I immediately and gently said to the person in charge who did not have prescribing privileges, “This person is not suicidal, it’s the drug!” I was then told very quietly, “Yes we know that but we are not allowed to say anything.” That person was sent home uninformed and heavily drugged.

 

It’s not just a case of one bad GP-apple in the apple barrel. The fact is the barrel in and of itself is totally rotten!

 

The world authority in this area Professor David Healy asserts that we are looking at a health care disaster that will dwarf thalidomide and recently declared: “I believe the SSRI era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine.”

 

 

Thank you for reading my letter.

 

Yours sincerely

nz11

 

“I could never understand why one of the nz boys was put on paroxetine…nz11 you deserve a medal for getting of that drug, we have many on our books who can’t get off paroxetine.” Recently retired Pharmacist. 2015

 

“Thank you for speaking up about this …we need more people like you.”

Whispered to me by the adjudicating lawyer as I left the ACC Review Hearing for Medical Misadventure Claim against my absent-from-the-meeting-ex-doctor. 2015

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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I feel like posting this ...again.

 

“Paroxetine is not safe, it is not effective and it meets every known definition of addictive.”

McLaren, N, (2016) ‘Psychiatry as bullsh*t’ p55

Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen

We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. 

URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting  for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing.

http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651   

Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos.

Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you

Recovering paxil addict

None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. 

This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! 

  "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped."  Dr Mosher. Me too! 

Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015

I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015

Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017

 

 

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Congratulations on your anniversary nz11! Good job!

 

I keep looking for the "like" and "lol"-buttons reading your posts... :-)

1988 - 2016 Different sorts antidepressants from Anafranile to Voxra. A couple of attempts to quit, but relapsed (?).

10/7 -16 From 225 mg Venlafaxin to 200 mg - No problems

31/7 -16 From 200 mg Venlafaxin to 175 mg - Minor panic attacks now and then

1/10 -16 Switched straight off from 175 mg Venlafaxin to 150 g Voxra on doctor's ordination (due to difficulties to cope with working as little as 25%)

-Bad withdrawal symptoms; dizzieness, nausea, insomnia, nighmares, heart pounding, panic attacks, malaise

4/10 -16 Continued with 150 mg Voxra and added 150 mg of Venlafaxine

5/10 -16 Removed Voxra on advice from SA, went back to 175 mg of Venlafaxine and will continue slowly tapering it out.

 

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