Moderator Emeritus Aeroman Posted May 13, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 13, 2015 Glad to hear you are getting some improvement on this very unexpected hit! the whole thing just makes me very heart broken! It got to be much easier than the SSIRs Thanks! No, not much easier my friend. Cipro withdrawal has made me question my sanity - I didn't have that with Lex wd. Also, I had maybe 2-3 nights of shear terror with Lex wd where as in Cipro wd, it had been weeks with that. I dont feel the depression as much with Cipro wd though...so, I guess give and take!? Hang in there. Lexparo 10mg user for 2.5 years. Last dose was 2/27/2008 after a fast 1 month taper. Recovered around 2011. Had issues with depression, anxiety, akathasia, inner restlessness, vertigo, insomnia, loss of appetite, eye floaters just to name a few. Basically rode it out, employing the Dr. Claire Weekes method. Took Cipro in July of 2014 and have been having set backs with nausea, vertigo, anxiety (racing thoughts), and depression the last half of 2014. Link to comment
LexAnger Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Wow, makes me speechless! Wonder how many drugs in the market can hunt ppl for their lives on this level! You are amazing always showing calm and positive to the world even in such an unfair situation! Have you ever thought about the possible links between the 2 incidences? My prayer for your quick healing! Drug free Sep. 23 2017 2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks. 2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg 2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain 2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; 2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain 2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, 2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on 2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks. 2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR 2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg，8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg， 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg 2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg, Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Aeroman Posted May 13, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 13, 2015 I'm so sorry, Aeroman. I hope this improves for you soon. I can't imagine having to go through both. Comparing my daughter's experience with Cipro and my SSRI withdrawal, it seems to me that there are many similarities. She did not have the akathisia, but from what I've read, FQ's can cause this as well.thanks. I experienced akathasia during Lex wd and Cipro wd. Maybe my brain is susceptible to it, who knows. I just know I was absolutely fine before Cipro and then things started to change after taking tens days of it. Regret taking it! Lexparo 10mg user for 2.5 years. Last dose was 2/27/2008 after a fast 1 month taper. Recovered around 2011. Had issues with depression, anxiety, akathasia, inner restlessness, vertigo, insomnia, loss of appetite, eye floaters just to name a few. Basically rode it out, employing the Dr. Claire Weekes method. Took Cipro in July of 2014 and have been having set backs with nausea, vertigo, anxiety (racing thoughts), and depression the last half of 2014. Link to comment
luv2knit Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Definitely! SMH Zoloft 100 mg. daily for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since Oct. 1994 / Synthroid 88 mcg. daily / Supplements: Neptune Krill Oil-1,000 mg. twice daily/Astaxanthin 10 mg. twice daily/Ubiquinol 100 mg. twice daily (These 3 have allowed me to discontinue (approved by doctor) bp meds I was on. Calcium Citrate 500 mg. daily/Vitamin D3 2,400 iu daily/K2 (MK7) 100 mcg daily (osteopenia and fam. hist. of severe osteoporosis). Stress B Complex (1/2 dose)/Quercetin (for allergies/asthma)/Magnesium (400 mg. oral glycinate and about 50 mg. magnesium chloride spray oil a day, divided throughout day). Tapered Zoloft about 6 wks. Totally off since the end of July (25-29, 2014). 3 wks. vertigo at end of taper, then 3-4 wks. OK, followed by withdrawal symptoms increasing in severity (nausea, gastric disturbances, loss of appetite, insomnia, restlessness, jitters, anxiety, agitation--jumping out of my skin--possible akathisia?) Seem to have paradoxical reactions to everything new, even Vitamin C. Severity of akathisia comes and goes, but is constant to some degree. Hard to leave house, and cannot be home alone. (Retired) Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Aeroman Posted May 13, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 13, 2015 Wow, makes me speechless! Wonder how many drugs in the market can hunt ppl for their lives on this level! You are amazing always showing calm and positive to the world even in such an unfair situation! Have you ever thought about the possible links between the 2 incidences? My prayer for your quick healing! thanks! I try to keep a positive attitude towards all this and be optimistic I'll be feeling better before Cipro. I'm not sure about possible links. They both affect the CNS, that's all I can think of. And Cipro is a neuro toxin. Passed the brain's blood barrier or something like that. Powerful stuff. Lexparo 10mg user for 2.5 years. Last dose was 2/27/2008 after a fast 1 month taper. Recovered around 2011. Had issues with depression, anxiety, akathasia, inner restlessness, vertigo, insomnia, loss of appetite, eye floaters just to name a few. Basically rode it out, employing the Dr. Claire Weekes method. Took Cipro in July of 2014 and have been having set backs with nausea, vertigo, anxiety (racing thoughts), and depression the last half of 2014. Link to comment
alex Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I am sorry my friend. You have been an inspiration for many of us. You have a great attitude and I`m sure you will be fine Another lesson learned. An estimate of 400 people die in the USA every year for iatrogenic injury...crazy stuff...drugs that are suposed to make us good.. Hang in there. 4 years aprox. on 150mgs.Effexor for situational major depression.No AD before.Tapered 150-0mgs in 3 months. Tapered Quetiapine,Xanax in the last 18 months.NO med of any kind anymore.First 3 months off acute w/dProtracted w/d ever since.Symptoms:Anxiety,anhedonia,insomnia,tinnitus,PSSD 04/13/2014 Awful Relapse.Recovered fairly fast. 3 years and 4 months off. waves and windows.Very much recovered. November 2015,health issue.Setback. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Aeroman Posted May 14, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 14, 2015 I am sorry my friend. You have been an inspiration for many of us. You have a great attitude and I`m sure you will be fine Another lesson learned. An estimate of 400 people die in the USA every year for iatrogenic injury...crazy stuff...drugs that are suposed to make us good.. Hang in there. Hi Alex, thanks my friend. Yep, another one of life's lessons! Be careful what you take and double check there are no CNS side effects. I was Rx a compounded cream for pain and after looking up all four of the ingredients, I found that one of them caused anxiety/nervousness/hallucinations. I immediately threw it in the trash. Lexparo 10mg user for 2.5 years. Last dose was 2/27/2008 after a fast 1 month taper. Recovered around 2011. Had issues with depression, anxiety, akathasia, inner restlessness, vertigo, insomnia, loss of appetite, eye floaters just to name a few. Basically rode it out, employing the Dr. Claire Weekes method. Took Cipro in July of 2014 and have been having set backs with nausea, vertigo, anxiety (racing thoughts), and depression the last half of 2014. Link to comment
btdt Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I am sorry my friend. You have been an inspiration for many of us. You have a great attitude and I`m sure you will be fine Another lesson learned. An estimate of 400 people die in the USA every year for iatrogenic injury...crazy stuff...drugs that are suposed to make us good.. Hang in there. Hi there Alex I had this idea your numbers were a bit off so I took a look. Here are some numbers for you: In the United States estimated deaths per year include: [24][25] [26][27] 12,000 due to unnecessary surgery 7,000 due to medication errors in hospitals 20,000 due to other errors in hospitals 80,000 due to nosocomial infections in hospitals 106,000 due to non-error, negative effects of drugs Based on these figures, iatrogenesis may cause 225,000 deaths per year in the United States (excluding recognizable error). An earlier Institute of Medicine report estimated 230,000 to 284,000 iatrogenic deaths annually.[24] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iatrogenesis WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus WiggleIt Posted May 19, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 19, 2015 Hey Aero,How are you faring? Sounds like some improvements, but also some setbacks? Do you feel like you are overall better, though? I'm really plugging for you. *I'm not a doctor and don't give medical advice, just personal experience **Off all meds since Nov. 2014. Mentally & emotionally recovered; physically not-Dual cold turkeys off TCA & Ativan in Oct 2014. Prescribed from 2011-2014 -All meds were Rxed off-label for an autoimmune illness. It was a MISDIAGNOSIS, but I did not find out until AFTER meds caused damage. All med tapers/cold turkeys directed by doctors -Nortriptyline May 2012 - Dec 2013. Cold turkey off nortrip & cold switched to desipramine -Desipramine Jan 2014 - Oct. 29, 2014 (rapid taper/cold turkey) -Lorazepam 1 mg per night during 2011 -Lorazepam 1 mg per month in 2012 (or less) -Lorazepam on & off, Dec 2013 through Aug 2014. Didn't exceed 3x a week -Lorazepam again in Oct. 2014 to help get off of desipramine. Last dose lzpam was 1 mg, Nov. 2, 2014. Immediate paradoxical reactions to benzos after stopping TCAs -First muscle/dystonia side effects started on nortriptyline, but docs too stupid to figure it out. On desipramine, muscle tremors & rigidity worsened -Two weeks after I got off all meds, I developed full-blown TD. Tardive dystonia, dyskinesia, myoclonic jerks ALL over body, ribcage wiggles, facial tics, twitching tongue & fingers, tremors/twitches of arms, legs, cognitive impairment, throat muscles semi-paralyzed & unable to swallow solid food, brain zaps, ears ring, dizzy, everything looks too far away, insomnia, numbness & electric shocks everywhere when I try to fall asleep, jerk awake from sleep with big, gasping breaths, wake with terrors & tremors, severely depressed. NO HISTORY OF DEPRESSION, EVER. Meds CREATED it. -Month 7: hair falling out; no vision improvement; still tardive dystonia; facial & tongue tics returned -Month 8: back to acute, incl. Grand Mal seizure-like episodes. New mental torment, PGAD, worse insomnia -Month 9: tardive dystonia worse, dyskinesia returned. Unable to breathe well due to dystonia in stomach, chest, throat -Month 13: Back to acute, brain zaps back, developed eczema & stomach problems. Left leg no longer works right due to dystonia, meaning both legs now damaged -7 years off: Huge improvements, incl. improved dystonia Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Aeroman Posted May 19, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 19, 2015 Hey Aero, How are you faring? Sounds like some improvements, but also some setbacks? Do you feel like you are overall better, though? I'm really plugging for you. Hi Wiggleit, I am now at Month 10 post Cipro. I just went through a week of depression, that horrid funk. Yesterday I woke up in better spirits and today I feel OK. I'm not 100% unfortunately but still plugging away. I am better than Month 5-7. My biggest issue has been those bad panic attacks, racing thoughts, morning adrenaline rushes. I would have never thought Cipro could do this to me. Thanks for the support. Lexparo 10mg user for 2.5 years. Last dose was 2/27/2008 after a fast 1 month taper. Recovered around 2011. Had issues with depression, anxiety, akathasia, inner restlessness, vertigo, insomnia, loss of appetite, eye floaters just to name a few. Basically rode it out, employing the Dr. Claire Weekes method. Took Cipro in July of 2014 and have been having set backs with nausea, vertigo, anxiety (racing thoughts), and depression the last half of 2014. Link to comment
johnson Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Hi Aeroman, Hopefully you get better. I just read the possible side effects of cipro and it seems almost as bad as an Anti-Depressant?? I never would have guessed an anti-biotic would be capable of this. I wonder if it's also because you are more sensitive to this kind of stuff now after your past withdrawal. I'm sure you''ll be fine soon enough Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Aeroman Posted May 19, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 19, 2015 Hi Aeroman, Hopefully you get better. I just read the possible side effects of cipro and it seems almost as bad as an Anti-Depressant?? I never would have guessed an anti-biotic would be capable of this. I wonder if it's also because you are more sensitive to this kind of stuff now after your past withdrawal. I'm sure you''ll be fine soon enough thanks. yeah, never had guessed an "antibiotic" would have done this to me. It could be I am sensitive to the med. there are some that never experienced CNS issues before and had them after Cipro Lexparo 10mg user for 2.5 years. Last dose was 2/27/2008 after a fast 1 month taper. Recovered around 2011. Had issues with depression, anxiety, akathasia, inner restlessness, vertigo, insomnia, loss of appetite, eye floaters just to name a few. Basically rode it out, employing the Dr. Claire Weekes method. Took Cipro in July of 2014 and have been having set backs with nausea, vertigo, anxiety (racing thoughts), and depression the last half of 2014. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Petunia Posted May 20, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) Hi Aeroman, Its so unfair that you are now dealing with a cipro reaction after everything you went through during lexapro withdrawal. Your story is inspiring and you give hope to a lot of people. Thank you for staying around to offer support. I'm 2 years drug free and still in protracted withdrawal, so knowing that you recovered completely gives me hope too. Did you use any supplements while you were recovering from withdrawal? I'm wondering if any supplements might help with some of the symptoms you are having now. Many of us here have found magnesium to be calming and some people find taurine helpful to reduce anxious, racing thoughts. What's the consensus about supplements in the cipro recovery community? Edit: Well this is a coincidence, I was doing some magnesium research for myself and stumbled onto this link in a comment. Apparently, magnesium is what cured her. The Floxie Hope Podcast Episode 6 – Ruth Young Edited May 20, 2015 by Petunia added link I'm not a doctor. My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one. My Introduction Thread Full Drug and Withdrawal History Brief Summary Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects 2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010 Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal) May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins. Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens. Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days. April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close. VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from? VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made? VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes? VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects? VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes Link to comment
alex Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I am sorry my friend. You have been an inspiration for many of us. You have a great attitude and I`m sure you will be fine Another lesson learned. An estimate of 400 people die in the USA every year for iatrogenic injury...crazy stuff...drugs that are suposed to make us good.. Hang in there. Hi there Alex I had this idea your numbers were a bit off so I took a look. Here are some numbers for you: In the United States estimated deaths per year include: [24][25] [26][27] 12,000 due to unnecessary surgery 7,000 due to medication errors in hospitals 20,000 due to other errors in hospitals 80,000 due to nosocomial infections in hospitals 106,000 due to non-error, negative effects of drugs Based on these figures, iatrogenesis may cause 225,000 deaths per year in the United States (excluding recognizable error). An earlier Institute of Medicine report estimated 230,000 to 284,000 iatrogenic deaths annually.[24] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iatrogenesis WOOOOW!! :o 4 years aprox. on 150mgs.Effexor for situational major depression.No AD before.Tapered 150-0mgs in 3 months. Tapered Quetiapine,Xanax in the last 18 months.NO med of any kind anymore.First 3 months off acute w/dProtracted w/d ever since.Symptoms:Anxiety,anhedonia,insomnia,tinnitus,PSSD 04/13/2014 Awful Relapse.Recovered fairly fast. 3 years and 4 months off. waves and windows.Very much recovered. November 2015,health issue.Setback. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Aeroman Posted May 23, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 23, 2015 Hi Aeroman, Its so unfair that you are now dealing with a cipro reaction after everything you went through during lexapro withdrawal. Your story is inspiring and you give hope to a lot of people. Thank you for staying around to offer support. I'm 2 years drug free and still in protracted withdrawal, so knowing that you recovered completely gives me hope too. Did you use any supplements while you were recovering from withdrawal? I'm wondering if any supplements might help with some of the symptoms you are having now. Many of us here have found magnesium to be calming and some people find taurine helpful to reduce anxious, racing thoughts. What's the consensus about supplements in the cipro recovery community? Edit: Well this is a coincidence, I was doing some magnesium research for myself and stumbled onto this link in a comment. Apparently, magnesium is what cured her. The Floxie Hope Podcast Episode 6 – Ruth Young thanks. Nope, no supplements. I tried Chelated Magnesium but it triggered anxiety. Lexparo 10mg user for 2.5 years. Last dose was 2/27/2008 after a fast 1 month taper. Recovered around 2011. Had issues with depression, anxiety, akathasia, inner restlessness, vertigo, insomnia, loss of appetite, eye floaters just to name a few. Basically rode it out, employing the Dr. Claire Weekes method. Took Cipro in July of 2014 and have been having set backs with nausea, vertigo, anxiety (racing thoughts), and depression the last half of 2014. Link to comment
chicken Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 I would stay away from any drugs until you heal. I don't even take over the counter meds since my Cipro/AD mess. I've been using some old home remedies to help with sinus, colds and some female issues. They have been working so far. Had to ride out a severe cough and food poisoning this year with no help from meds, but made it. Prozac 1999-2009 quit semi cold turkey. 2012 Placed on Seroquel 25 mg, Tranxene (Clorezepate) 3.75 mg 3x a day, Remeron 30 mg for anxiety/akathesia. Weaned off Seroquel and Tranxene .to Remeron 15 Mg. In May 2014 tried quitting Remeron at its lowest dose. Had severe withdrawals.Reinstated Remeron at 30 mg by doctor. August 5 2014 entered hospital. Doctor pulled the Remeron and bridged it to Pamelor (Nortriptyline) 40mg and Zyprexa 2.5mg.After removing the Remeron all my bad symptoms went away and I am stable. 9/11/14 - 7.5 mg tranxene, 40mg Pamelor, Zyprexa 2.5mg 12/29/14 - 20mg Pamelor, 1/6/15, 7/31/15 3.5mg, 8/10/15 3.2 mg, 9/15/15 2.2mg, 10/15/15 1.8mg (Feb 2016 - 1.4mg Pamelor only - OFF OF TRANXENE AND ZYPREXA SINCE DEC 2014 BENZO FREE Since 2014. Nortrityline (Pamelor) .8mg Aug 2016 March 2017 DRUG FREE Link to comment
DLB Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 I wish i didnt have to take anything after my 2 floxings and what i would say is a decent healing from 11 years of paxil. But i am now takink an extremely powerful drug for three weeks now for psoriatic arthritis and thank God i only have nausea the one day a week i take it. I just hope it starts working for this crippling pain which im sure was caused by my years on paxil and withdrawal. Aero, i hope all is well. Jin Paxil start September 2003 due to Fluoroquinolone adverse reaction that I wish doc. knew what it was. 10mg. most of the time with a few short runs of 20mg. FAST tapered 3 times and finally hit poop out or a reaction to nsaid's in Nov.2013. Started a 10% taper Jan. 2014 and have been ok until Sept 14 and went through a short hell. Now plodding through and looking for the light with unrelenting insomnia and pain, fog, loss of interests....<p>12/20/14 - .8mg. 1/01/15 - .75 mg. 1/15/15 - .42 mg. better sleep now, hope it continues... 2/11-15 - .25 mg. doing really good!! 2 weeks feel 85% of old me! 3/17/15 .14 mg. Knee pain bad! 4/07/15 .05 mg. this is so small now that I am estimating and just licking it off palm small as a "." 4/13/15 NOTHING !!!! Took my last little micro dose on 4/12/15. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Aeroman Posted May 24, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 24, 2015 I would stay away from any drugs until you heal. I don't even take over the counter meds since my Cipro/AD mess. I've been using some old home remedies to help with sinus, colds and some female issues. They have been working so far. Had to ride out a severe cough and food poisoning this year with no help from meds, but made it. Yep, my goal is to stay away from everything... Lexparo 10mg user for 2.5 years. Last dose was 2/27/2008 after a fast 1 month taper. Recovered around 2011. Had issues with depression, anxiety, akathasia, inner restlessness, vertigo, insomnia, loss of appetite, eye floaters just to name a few. Basically rode it out, employing the Dr. Claire Weekes method. Took Cipro in July of 2014 and have been having set backs with nausea, vertigo, anxiety (racing thoughts), and depression the last half of 2014. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Aeroman Posted May 24, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 24, 2015 I wish i didnt have to take anything after my 2 floxings and what i would say is a decent healing from 11 years of paxil. But i am now takink an extremely powerful drug for three weeks now for psoriatic arthritis and thank God i only have nausea the one day a week i take it. I just hope it starts working for this crippling pain which im sure was caused by my years on paxil and withdrawal. Aero, i hope all is well. JinHi Jim, thanks for checking in. Yes, I hope you feel better too. I'm 10months into Cipro wd and I'm not recovered. Mornings tend to be tough with mood and anxiety. Lexparo 10mg user for 2.5 years. Last dose was 2/27/2008 after a fast 1 month taper. Recovered around 2011. Had issues with depression, anxiety, akathasia, inner restlessness, vertigo, insomnia, loss of appetite, eye floaters just to name a few. Basically rode it out, employing the Dr. Claire Weekes method. Took Cipro in July of 2014 and have been having set backs with nausea, vertigo, anxiety (racing thoughts), and depression the last half of 2014. Link to comment
Nana Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Thank you for this post. I am 61. Nana Pristiq 100 mg day x two months (1 whole tablet) 50 mg day x six weeks (1 whole 50mg tablet) 25mg/day x six weeks (cut 50 mg tablet in half) 12.5 mg/day x six weeks (cut 50 mg tablet in fourths) 6.25 mg/day x two weeks (crushed 50 mg tablet and divided into eighths) Last dose of 6.25 mg was March 23, 2015 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Aeroman Posted May 24, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 24, 2015 Thank you for this post. I am 61. Sure, you're welcome. Lexparo 10mg user for 2.5 years. Last dose was 2/27/2008 after a fast 1 month taper. Recovered around 2011. Had issues with depression, anxiety, akathasia, inner restlessness, vertigo, insomnia, loss of appetite, eye floaters just to name a few. Basically rode it out, employing the Dr. Claire Weekes method. Took Cipro in July of 2014 and have been having set backs with nausea, vertigo, anxiety (racing thoughts), and depression the last half of 2014. Link to comment
btdt Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 When I took it I felt immediately kind of trapped in my bodyand had a stiff neck. But it hit me hard when I stopped after only 5days. I woke up with akathesia,anxiety and total confusion-then I knew that it went wrong .I have rácing thoughts yes but not the psychosis-like issues,but I had them during paxil withdrawal. My main issues now are exhaustion,morning anxiety,bouts of depression,muscle pain and this horrible feeling of a squashed head-just like it was in the beginning of withdrawal.And it stays with me pretty chewy.There are no windows really. I found many storys from people who reacted like this to all kinds of antibiotics,but they recovered more quickly.(Some also reported hallucinations) I never ever had Problems with AD before withdrawal and I also had one 3 years ago during an surgery where I felt horrible after it,but nothing like this and I recovered in a few weeks. lg solida I came looking for you today to send you this link a research study in Germany... http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/9063-dr-peter-and-sabine-ansari-study-on-ad-withdrawal-send-in-a-questionnaire/#entry154496 WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Aeroman Posted June 22, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 22, 2015 When I took it I felt immediately kind of trapped in my bodyand had a stiff neck. But it hit me hard when I stopped after only 5days. I woke up with akathesia,anxiety and total confusion-then I knew that it went wrong .I have rácing thoughts yes but not the psychosis-like issues,but I had them during paxil withdrawal. My main issues now are exhaustion,morning anxiety,bouts of depression,muscle pain and this horrible feeling of a squashed head-just like it was in the beginning of withdrawal.And it stays with me pretty chewy.There are no windows really. I found many storys from people who reacted like this to all kinds of antibiotics,but they recovered more quickly.(Some also reported hallucinations) I never ever had Problems with AD before withdrawal and I also had one 3 years ago during an surgery where I felt horrible after it,but nothing like this and I recovered in a few weeks. lg solida I came looking for you today to send you this link a research study in Germany... http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/9063-dr-peter-and-sabine-ansari-study-on-ad-withdrawal-send-in-a-questionnaire/#entry154496 Thank you! Wow, i didnt even get a notification about a new post here. Thanks again. Lexparo 10mg user for 2.5 years. Last dose was 2/27/2008 after a fast 1 month taper. Recovered around 2011. Had issues with depression, anxiety, akathasia, inner restlessness, vertigo, insomnia, loss of appetite, eye floaters just to name a few. Basically rode it out, employing the Dr. Claire Weekes method. Took Cipro in July of 2014 and have been having set backs with nausea, vertigo, anxiety (racing thoughts), and depression the last half of 2014. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Aeroman Posted June 22, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 22, 2015 this pretty much explains my issue with Cipro induced anxiety: http://floxiehope.com/2015/06/22/treating-fluoroquinolone-anxiety/ Lexparo 10mg user for 2.5 years. Last dose was 2/27/2008 after a fast 1 month taper. Recovered around 2011. Had issues with depression, anxiety, akathasia, inner restlessness, vertigo, insomnia, loss of appetite, eye floaters just to name a few. Basically rode it out, employing the Dr. Claire Weekes method. Took Cipro in July of 2014 and have been having set backs with nausea, vertigo, anxiety (racing thoughts), and depression the last half of 2014. Link to comment
btdt Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 The long and the short of it ...the same as wd ... different drug same issue? I was given a flox for pneumonia post mva dec 2012... followed by more questionable drugs and a surgery. I read the one page you linked about floxed... it just seems to me there is nothing new under the sun about wd at this point.. am I wrong? WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Aeroman Posted June 23, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 23, 2015 The long and the short of it ...the same as wd ... different drug same issue? I was given a flox for pneumonia post mva dec 2012... followed by more questionable drugs and a surgery. I read the one page you linked about floxed... it just seems to me there is nothing new under the sun about wd at this point.. am I wrong? seems like it Lexparo 10mg user for 2.5 years. Last dose was 2/27/2008 after a fast 1 month taper. Recovered around 2011. Had issues with depression, anxiety, akathasia, inner restlessness, vertigo, insomnia, loss of appetite, eye floaters just to name a few. Basically rode it out, employing the Dr. Claire Weekes method. Took Cipro in July of 2014 and have been having set backs with nausea, vertigo, anxiety (racing thoughts), and depression the last half of 2014. Link to comment
btdt Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I am wrong.. it seems like I am wrong... lol oh my WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Aeroman Posted June 23, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 23, 2015 Stay away from Cipro! and any FQs!!!!!!! Lexparo 10mg user for 2.5 years. Last dose was 2/27/2008 after a fast 1 month taper. Recovered around 2011. Had issues with depression, anxiety, akathasia, inner restlessness, vertigo, insomnia, loss of appetite, eye floaters just to name a few. Basically rode it out, employing the Dr. Claire Weekes method. Took Cipro in July of 2014 and have been having set backs with nausea, vertigo, anxiety (racing thoughts), and depression the last half of 2014. Link to comment
btdt Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Got it thanks! WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Aeroman Posted September 9, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 9, 2015 I'm almost 14 months out and have seen improvements overall. However, I am not fully recovered to the point where I was at before taking Cipro. My main issues are occasional waves of anxiety and vertigo. Actually, the vertigo has been pretty good lately but today, it has hit me pretty hard. I've had two occasions where I got a so-called "brain reset" where you get this weird pulse in your head and experience a quick off balance whoozy feeling. I am left with this weird residual feeling and it goes away. I'm just taking it day by day and hopefully by next year I can finally put this behind me. Hope you're all well. Lexparo 10mg user for 2.5 years. Last dose was 2/27/2008 after a fast 1 month taper. Recovered around 2011. Had issues with depression, anxiety, akathasia, inner restlessness, vertigo, insomnia, loss of appetite, eye floaters just to name a few. Basically rode it out, employing the Dr. Claire Weekes method. Took Cipro in July of 2014 and have been having set backs with nausea, vertigo, anxiety (racing thoughts), and depression the last half of 2014. Link to comment
LexAnger Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Hi Aeroman, gad to hear you and know things are improving for you! You are for sure to be out of the woods completely soon and enjoy life again at its fullest. LexA Drug free Sep. 23 2017 2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks. 2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg 2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain 2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; 2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain 2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, 2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on 2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks. 2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR 2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg，8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg， 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg 2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg, Link to comment
stan Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I've had two occasions where I got a so-called "brain reset" where you get this weird pulse in your head and experience a quick off balance whoozy feeling. I am left with this weird residual feeling and it goes away. hello, i had also this from time to time, it makes me panik, a pulse(or a muscle spasm...) in head following by anxiety and weird malaise, and slowly it goes away, i thought it was as a stroke, i never read someone who had this until now i wish you to quick heal since the time and congratulations for your photos in the past... for anxiety 12 years paxil - cold turkey 1,5 month - switch celexa 1 year taper; total 13 years on brain meds 67 years old - 9 years med free in protracted withdrawal rigidity standing and walking, dryness gougerot-szoegren, sleep deteriorate, function as have a lack of nerves, improving have been very little Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Aeroman Posted September 11, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 11, 2015 Yep,makes me panic too. A brain reset is what I call it. Horrible. I feel better today but I still feel the residual from yesterday. Lexparo 10mg user for 2.5 years. Last dose was 2/27/2008 after a fast 1 month taper. Recovered around 2011. Had issues with depression, anxiety, akathasia, inner restlessness, vertigo, insomnia, loss of appetite, eye floaters just to name a few. Basically rode it out, employing the Dr. Claire Weekes method. Took Cipro in July of 2014 and have been having set backs with nausea, vertigo, anxiety (racing thoughts), and depression the last half of 2014. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Aeroman Posted February 9, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 9, 2016 I haven't posted in a few months here. I am doing better, having better days. Am I 100%? well, pretty close but I was much better BEFORE Cipro. But, I will take what I have now versus those initial months I had right after taking Cipro, which causes psychiatric issues on some. I'm sleeping better. Having less anxiety issues, fear is pretty much gone, eating better, more peppy. Good days and not so good days but moving in the right direction. Lexparo 10mg user for 2.5 years. Last dose was 2/27/2008 after a fast 1 month taper. Recovered around 2011. Had issues with depression, anxiety, akathasia, inner restlessness, vertigo, insomnia, loss of appetite, eye floaters just to name a few. Basically rode it out, employing the Dr. Claire Weekes method. Took Cipro in July of 2014 and have been having set backs with nausea, vertigo, anxiety (racing thoughts), and depression the last half of 2014. Link to comment
LexAnger Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Hi Aeroman, So happy to hear you and the great news that you are doing well! Been thinking of you often. Hope you continuous healing! Lex Drug free Sep. 23 2017 2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks. 2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg 2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain 2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; 2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain 2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, 2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on 2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks. 2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR 2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg，8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg， 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg 2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg, Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Aeroman Posted February 9, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 9, 2016 Hi Aeroman, So happy to hear you and the great news that you are doing well! Been thinking of you often. Hope you continuous healing! Lex Thanks! Yeah, I wish I never took Cipro, or even Lexapro for that matter. But, I am doing better now than this time last year. I was so freaked out. How have you been? Lexparo 10mg user for 2.5 years. Last dose was 2/27/2008 after a fast 1 month taper. Recovered around 2011. Had issues with depression, anxiety, akathasia, inner restlessness, vertigo, insomnia, loss of appetite, eye floaters just to name a few. Basically rode it out, employing the Dr. Claire Weekes method. Took Cipro in July of 2014 and have been having set backs with nausea, vertigo, anxiety (racing thoughts), and depression the last half of 2014. Link to comment
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