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This guy's name on another site is Aeroman. He worked his way through withdrawals from Lexapro and posted before and after pictures that really do tell the story. Very inspiring so I thought I'd share:  ******/forums/showthread.php?t=55268 See ya, Steerpike

 

**moderator note: dead link because site no longer exists

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Nikki

Hi....

 

I used to read Aeroman's posts on the other site. Great guy, pulled himself thru alot and was very helpful to others.

 

At the time, I too was WDing from Lexapro.

 

I remember seeing his name on this site....wonder how he is doing?

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Altostrata

Sorry, I've blocked links to that site in protest because they have an "all in your mind" philosophy about prolonged withdrawal syndrome.

 

(Replace the *** with the site's name and the link will work.)

 

Many of us know Aeroman and we're very happy he's doing so well. He's been invited to post here but -- I guess he's too busy with his new life!

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alexjuice

It's an .ORG tld.

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jr1985

I found an old photo of me from about 5 years ago. My face was chubbier and I looked stoned while on 20mg Paxil (I think..). I'm thinner and seem more "lucid" on 37.5mg Effexor.

 

It amazing because I had no idea how badly these drugs were affecting me at the time. Not once did I consider the drug when I was trying to figure out why I was so tired all the time, had trouble concentrating, etc. Even when I first decided to come off them I had no idea just how bad they were. It's only really been since w/d that my eyes have been opened to their serious downsides.

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haley

Could someone tell me the site? Over PM or something, I'd really like too hear his story.

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Altostrata

If you can reach him, please ask him to post here. He'll inspire lots of people.

 

I hope he'll forgive me, here's his post from that other site:

03-01-2012 48-Month (Yes, 4 years) Update - Lexapro Withdrawal (PICS)

On February 27, 2008, I took the last dose of Lexapro. A month and some change prior, I had asked my doctor to remove me off the drug because of the weight and libido issues I was having, after a 2.5-year use of the drug. I had originally taken it for anxiety and depression and it worked quite well when I was on it. While on it, I was very motivated, excited, full of energy. The best way I describe it to people is I was on an artificial “high”. I began buying things I really didn’t need and stayed up until 2am doing all sorts of creative things in the garage. As stated earlier, my wife gave me feedback one December evening telling me, “Who are you? You aren’t the man I knew before”. It was then that I knew I needed to do something to salvage my marriage, especially myself.

 

After meeting with the shrink, he told me I needed to taper off 10mg of Lexapro in a month’s time. At the time, I knew NOTHING of withdrawal, especially with the happy state of mind I was at during the drug Tx. I thought 1-month to taper was TOO FAST. Little did I know I was so wrong. Anyway, he had me go from 10mg to 5mg immediately for two weeks and then take a 5mg dose every other day. During this month (Feb 200, I didn’t feel anything different. My last dose was on Wednesday, February 27, 2008. Four days later, on a Sunday, I noticed I was irritable. Very irritable. I am not normally that type of person and I even mentioned it to my wife, “Babe, I am very moody and I don’t know why”. That day, we went to Salsa Dance class and I noticed I was making a lot of mistakes (more than usual). I found myself having issues concentrating. Later that week, I began having headaches (the tight band around the head) and nausea. That lasted off and on for about 2-3 months. After 3 months time, a lot of the physical stuff backed off but I was realizing I was sinking back into the abyss of depression. I had no motivation for anything. My sleep was off as well as my appetite. I began experiencing racing thoughts along with the inner restlessness (which to this day was my worst symptom ever). During June 2008, I also began having low back chronic pain (which still persists to this day). I was losing weight fast (I had gained 50+ lbs on the drug), no appetite, still nauseous, insomnia, anhedonia, suicidal thoughts, continued libido issues, early morning wake up calls (~4am), dizzy/off balance, eye floaters, and other issues I have forgotten. I lost count how many physicians/specialists I went to see in 2008 for all of these ailments.

 

Thanks to Google, I found the drugs.com forum after entering “Lexapro Withdrawal” into the search box. My jaw fell to the floor as I read the countless stories that others wrote about getting off Lexapro. I knew I wasn’t alone and I finally had a name to call what I was experiencing.

 

As the months went on, I would have some relief of the symptoms but still wasn’t fully recovered or “myself”. At around Month 26ish, I felt an uplifting sense of inner peace. I began distancing myself from the SSRI w/d forums and reading more into my car restoration stuff and connecting with old friends/family on Facebook. I believe at that point, it is then I felt the next chapter begin for me in this w/d journey of improvement. My wife noticed me funnier, joking more. She found me more peppy and not talking about w/d anymore. My siblings/parents noticed the same thing. I was still hurting inside with issues of anxiety and occasional depression funks but I did realize things were getting better.

 

At around Month 36ish, my libido went through the roof. I am feeling like an 18yr old again there (and that’s the end of that – there is hope dudes!).

 

At Month 48 (presently), I find myself 98% recovered and trust me, I practically feel “normal” or “myself” but BETTER. The remaining issues are of course the chronic pain and who wouldn’t feel moody/irritable with that. After multiple MRI’s, the doc’s are finding a smashed (dried up) lumbar disc and they feel that is the source of my problems. At this point, they do not want to do surgery because “once they cut, I could potentially be a back patient for the rest of my life”. They advised me to lose weight. And so I have. At 85lbs lighter, I feel more energy, have wiped out issues with cholesterol and high blood pressure. I am still having issues with the low back but I am going to give it half a year and see if the weight loss will eventually help over time. I still have 15lbs or so to go.

 

My friends, THINGS WILL GET BETTER. The only thing that has helped me, besides God, is all of you & TIME. By giving it time, I have found inner peace with all of this. Is life perfect? NOPE! Do I still get waves of anxiety and depression? YEP! Am I better in handling them? ABSOLUTELY. Both Anxiety and Depressive bouts are now short lived for me. I know if I ever sink into one, I know it is temporary. It isn’t forever. The Dr. Claire Weekes method for anxiety has been a God Send. Check the book and recordings out if you haven’t done so. I see 2008 as a distant memory and you’d have to pick my brain to have me remember a lot of the details of what I went through in that year. 2009 was no walk in the park either. Know that relief and recovery is around the corner for you. Please don’t think that it will take you 3-4 years to feel better. We are all different and may feel better sooner – it’s just the way my brain decided to heal…and healing continues I am telling you. If any of you have detailed/personal questions, please feel free to PM me. I do pop in here time to time and help when I can. I am by no means an expert in SSRI Withdrawal but I feel I know more about this damn state of mind than your average Shrink out there. My plan now is to pick up where I left off BEFORE SSRI’s, live life with my beautiful wife, have a child, and grow old 

 

We’ll be in touch my PP Friends…

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Lilu

Wow. Psychiatrists suck. I had a psychiatrist ask me yesterday, why am planning to take 2-3 months to withdraw from my antidepressant (Pristiq) and tell me that I don't need to do it so slowly!

 

found the website: paxil progress .org (can't copy the actual link cause the words become blocked out by ****)

 

and wow, that guy is gorgeous!

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Steerpike

There are a lot of factors that went into that guy getting better. One of them is that he is young. Young bodies heal more easily. When I told my psychiatrist that I was going to work my way free of anti depressants he - rather snidely - said, 'not at your age'. I'm forty seven. The comment made me angry, but, I have to say contained some truth. I am working so hard with diet and exercise. Probably a lot harder than someone half my age. But, if I don't do it now, it will be even harder the older I am. It's like holding onto a balloon that keeps rising.

I find that, these days, because I am so open about my predicament with friends, more and more people are coming to me with stories about people they know and about their own situations. They tell me that they have tried to get free from antidepressants and that it was just too frightening. They are reconciled to staying on them for life. This really worries me because around ten per cent of the population are now using these things. What are we going to see happen in the next ten years many more try to get free and can't?

To anyone out there who is struggling with this, I just want to say, keep at it. Be as healthy as you can. No alcohol, plenty of exercise, a good diet and support from friends and you should make it. Keep trying.

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compsports

There are a lot of factors that went into that guy getting better. One of them is that he is young. Young bodies heal more easily. When I told my psychiatrist that I was going to work my way free of anti depressants he - rather snidely - said, 'not at your age'. I'm forty seven. The comment made me angry, but, I have to say contained some truth. I am working so hard with diet and exercise. Probably a lot harder than someone half my age. But, if I don't do it now, it will be even harder the older I am. It's like holding onto a balloon that keeps rising.

I find that, these days, because I am so open about my predicament with friends, more and more people are coming to me with stories about people they know and about their own situations. They tell me that they have tried to get free from antidepressants and that it was just too frightening. They are reconciled to staying on them for life. This really worries me because around ten per cent of the population are now using these things. What are we going to see happen in the next ten years many more try to get free and can't?

To anyone out there who is struggling with this, I just want to say, keep at it. Be as healthy as you can. No alcohol, plenty of exercise, a good diet and support from friends and you should make it. Keep trying.

 

Hi Steerpike,

 

I had a PCP whom I was considering going to several years ago that felt most people needed to stay on ADs for life when I told him I was tapering off of my psych med cocktail. Needless to say, I didn't chose him as my doctor.

 

I also encountered skepticism from my former psychiatrist. Ah, the support from these folks is so overwhelming :rolleyes:

 

There is no doubt in my mind that once I get the situation in being able to stay asleep on my cpap machine resolved, I will have a complete recovery. Unfortunately, because I feel the bleeping meds destroyed my sleep mechanisms big time, this isn't going to happen over night.

 

You're right, it is scary that people feel they can't get off the meds. But due to the meds for life philosophy that the medical profession endorses, this is sadly not surprising.

 

Kudos to you for your positive attitude.

 

CS

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Altostrata

47 is young!!

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Steerpike

You're right Alto. 47 is young. I've been telling this to myself, ever since I read your post.

 

Thanks and hope you're well,

 

Steerpike.

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Altostrata

I'm doing okay, thanks.

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Jemima

You're right Alto. 47 is young. I've been telling this to myself, ever since I read your post.

 

Thanks and hope you're well,

 

Steerpike.

 

I'm 67 and have just come out of the withdrawal woods after fifteen months off a very fast taper from Lexapro. I think your psychiatrist needs an attitude adjustment.

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starlitegirlx

I'm 44 and I feel like I'm old to be dealing with this, but I guess that's because I see the taper and stop (time after stopping the klonopin) as taking me close to 50. But now I think that 50 now isn't what it was when I was a kid. Lots of people are quite healthy at 50 now. It depends on the person. But I think the bigger point is that in our 40 or 60s we have to ask ourselves how much longer might we live? Average age is mid 70s-80s. And then we have to consider how much worse being on these meds all that time could make us and even how a standard dose at a younger age is supposedly too high at an older age (not sure if that's true but if it is, what happens if you haven't tapered down?) and consider that you will then be on those pills those few more decades and not at lower doses and what kind of a life will you have? Personally, I'm not happy that I have to deal with this benzo taper at 44 and that it will probably take me toward late 40s to 50 to be off and clear of it and all WD, but I am happy about the idea that in my 50s I'll be free of this crap and in general still not 'old' per say and probably in better health than I'd been in a while with these really dangerous drugs no longer in my system. We still don't know how these drugs can effect us as we hit those late years in life. Personally, I'd rather never find out.

 

As for that doc that said 'not at your age' - I have three words: WHAT A D*UCHE!

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Hudgens

I'm having a lot of trouble tapering off Effexor, but I had absolutely no trouble getting off Xanax. So one doesn't predict the other. After 2 years on 4 mgs daily, I tapered by rubbing the 1mg pills on a piece of sandpaper. It took me 7 months with no WD's during or after. I've been off xanax for 18 years now. So maybe it won't take until you're almost 50 afterall. Benz

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Nikki

Alto

 

Aeroman was banned from the other site. He was an extraordinary person....maybe that it why.

 

Nikki

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Altostrata

!!!!!!!!

 

All the best people were banned!

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Altoid

I used to belong to the other site. Used to be okay, but now seems that if you don't agree with the mods, you're history. This is a much better site. Can't see any reason to ban Aeroman! He's a nice, helpful guy.

I just turned 50. I CTd off Klonopin 6 yr ago, knowing nothing about withdrawal. Then I thought the w/d I was having was Paxil poop out, so I began a rapid wean off it. I want people to know that there can be serious physical side effects from these drugs, and your doctor will never connect the dots. I woke up one day with an out of the blue rip roaring case of ulcerative colitis. In had never had bowel problems before. Ultimately I lost my colon. My immune system was in then crapper. Ulcerative colitis WAS on the insert for Paxil side effects. I don't think it's there anymore. Not one single GI doc in saw thought my problem had any connection with Paxil. I realized I HAD to get off the meds cause they were destroying my body. I am now 4yr. 9 mo off all drugs. I am much healthier. I am having a bad wave at the moment, but in general I have come a long way. (This wave really blind sided me, didn't,t think it could happen this bad this far out) I do think the younger you are, the quicker you heal. But, what is the alternative? 50 is not old. If you lived until 80, that would be 30 more years on meds, and probably not healthy ones, and probably more and more drugs and they reached tolerance poop out. So even if it takes me twice as long to heal as a 25 yr old, I still feel,getting off them is the right choice, and the only one for me.

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Steerpike

I like your determination Altoid. I'm still working my way down and looking forward to being Med free in October. I had some stomach ulcer problems recently but I have worked through those. I feel so sorry about what happened to you. I have to work hard against the despair I feel for the way pharmaceutical companies have enjoyed huge profits and ignored the suffering of those they claim they are trying to help. But, still, I like your determination. There's so much more dignity in fighting on, I think.

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Altoid

Steerpike you are fortunate to be doing a slow planned out w/d. You will be so much better off.

Don't know if you read a post I made in another thread, I was cleaning out some old books, and ran across a PDR from 1999. I looked at the page for Paxil. Well, it was actually several pages of known side effect and known adverse reactions, and know withdrawal symptoms. Stuff in there that your doctor has no clue about.  I found an even older one that I have not looked into yet, from 1993. This stuff has been swept under the rug. It's criminal.

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Steerpike

I'm not the sort of person who likes to indulge in the type of drivel that a lot of conspiracy theorist come out with, but, when it comes to pharmaceutical companies, the evidence is there for anyone to see. It makes no sense to me that companies can be fined billions of dollars (GlaxoSmithKline) for off label prescribing, that they can be caught out manipulating the data about suicide risks in adolescents, that so many psychiatrist, including the former president of the American Psychiatric Association, have been found to be taking benefits from pharmaceutical companies and no one is raising the proper protest that should be working to ensure the good health of the people such companies have a supposed duty to protect. 

 

I will soon be off my meds. I spend as much time as I can trying to convince my friends and any one I meet not to take them. I can only tell them about the suffering I went through and hope they will listen. But, it seems, the pressures of making capital from the suffering of others, dressed up as it is in the pretense of actually caring for mental health, is winning the battle for the truth. It's so sad.

 

Good luck to you Altoid. I have resigned myself to the idea that there will be ongoing mental health problems even after I stop taking the medication. Can you briefly describe to me what this has meant to you and what you have done to deal with it?

 

Best wishes,

 

Steerpike

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btdt

!!!!!!!! All the best people were banned!

I had took an interest in banned folks there after I was banned there were two people banned before I went there Sherri was one... 

another person who was banned went on to work on the effexoractivist.org site often down due to attack... 

One thing that seems odd to me was that after I was banned I could send people there to look at my old post and I could read other people posts who had been banned.  

Then suddenly all of my posts at pp disappeared. I am not sure if it was the same with you Alto if there was a time where you could go back and read your own post... or if all your posts disappeared at the same time you were banned. 

 

I also find it odd that out of all the banned people as far as I can tell when I was there last you and I are the only two I know of who have had every post we made deleted from the site. 

 

Any ideas why?  

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btdt

I just looked at Arrowmans picture that is an amazing improvement in looks... I am not expecting that... but will take what I get as long as I feel better ...

FYI I don't think he has been banned it does not say so over his name at least all his posts have not been deleted.

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stan

i am banned but you see my posts and under my name it is not written, but i am no more able to login and when i asked the scottys, their write me i am banned because i have registered on this forum when he was start, i had to change my name to not be banned maybe, but do not regret to have keeped the same, they have maybe a mental sickness but i am not psychiatrist

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btdt

I wonder why it is not written under your and Aeromans?  

That seems odd to me. 

 

How can they say you can't be part of this site and that one... how very strange?!

 

I know for a fact there are others here who are on that site too... I know them by their stories and often by there names... so this makes not sense to me... there must be another reason Stan maybe you did not heal fast enough to push forward the agenda that everyone heals in 2 lousy years... how we wish that were the truth. 

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btdt

Do you recall a guy named Elixir Monekie he and I started a site call Collateral Damage...it got spammed to death... it was real bad and did not really get off the ground. 

While there tho I did learn a few small things about running a site and they can see what ip address you log in from and know if you try to join under another name I know I tried to do it :) to invite the people I trusted and wanted to keep in contact with to the new site.  Some of those people found me at the Effexor topix site but it has now been closed too.. 

 

So if you want to go on there under a different name they can see where you log in from...I can only think of one reason you would be interested in going there and that would be to invite the people you like else where... I would suggest you do it from a totally different location another country maybe if you still can travel have money and health enough to do so.  I do not recall if mods can read pms or not... so can't help you there... 

 

Mostly if they are destine to find you they will I guess... who knows. 

 

One other thought on this maybe they are not writing the word "banned" on accounts because they have too many of them now as people heal some and catch on ... they are getting banned.. it would not look good to have half the people there banned. 

maybe..

peace to you Stan thanks for your reply :)

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btdt

maybe as time goes on and folks are not better in 2 years they fight about the protracted withdrawal and get the boot I wonder why they are so stuck on pw not existing makes no sense to me.  thoughts?

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Aeroman

Hey guys!

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WinningThrough

Hey guys!

Hello, recovered one!

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Aeroman

Oh wow, I have been doing well until I made the mistake of taking Cipro back in July. I've been experiencing anxiety and depression the last week and a half. Stay away from Cipro! Lol

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trouper

hi aeroman!

what happened when you took cipro in july? do you think your current anxiety and depression is from that event?

 

i've been keeping a list of things i need to avoid and cipro is on there. i was hoping once we are healed we wouldn't need to worry anymore but i guess that is not the case.

 

thank you for the update!

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Aeroman

I went to my doc due to infection. He gave me Cipro. A few days after, I felt like I was going to pass out/faint. That week, I had nausea and vertigo. The anxiety came about shortly after. Then on the morning of Christmas Eve, I got a heavy dose of racing thoughts with panic. I felt absolutely fine before Cipro so I am convinced it was that drug

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I went to my doc due to infection. He gave me Cipro. A few days after, I felt like I was going to pass out/faint. That week, I had nausea and vertigo. The anxiety came about shortly after. Then on the morning of Christmas Eve, I got a heavy dose of racing thoughts with panic. I felt absolutely fine before Cipro so I am convinced it was that drug

Aero,

How are you doing now, after the Cipro?

 

I agree, folks should stay away from Cipro and the like drugs.  Cipro (floxed) my antidepressant and ruined my taper. Have you checked out some of the "flox" stories out there on the net? Cipro has permanently disabled people. It may be more dangerous than AD's.

 

I'm glad it didn't hurt you anymore.

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Aeroman

 

I went to my doc due to infection. He gave me Cipro. A few days after, I felt like I was going to pass out/faint. That week, I had nausea and vertigo. The anxiety came about shortly after. Then on the morning of Christmas Eve, I got a heavy dose of racing thoughts with panic. I felt absolutely fine before Cipro so I am convinced it was that drug

Aero,

How are you doing now, after the Cipro?

 

I agree, folks should stay away from Cipro and the like drugs.  Cipro (floxed) my antidepressant and ruined my taper. Have you checked out some of the "flox" stories out there on the net? Cipro has permanently disabled people. It may be more dangerous than AD's.

 

I'm glad it didn't hurt you anymore.

 

Hi Chicken, before Cipro, I was 100% recovered.  I was doing absolutely fine.  In fact, I forgot about Paxil Progress, where I used to live, because I was busy living life.  I picked up where I left off before Lexapro.  After the 3 year mark or so, I was feeling much much better.

 

I am 5 months post Cipro and got the real bad issues about a week and a half ago.  My mornings are tough with depression, hard to get myself out of bed.  And I have been getting some episodes of anxiety.  I would say, the racing thoughts were the worst because I felt I was going crazy and scared the hell out of me when it first happened (caught me off guard).  

 

All I am going to do is ride this out just like I did with the initial Lexapro w/d.  I mean, not much else I can do.

 

Yes, I joined a floxed support group on Facebook and share the same issues with many there.  A lot of them have issues with tendon stuff.  I am ok in that department.  The four main issues I had AFTER Cipro was the following:

 

1. Nausea (esp in the morning)

2. Vertigo

3. Anxiety

4. Depression

 

Sound familiar?!  Yep, just like my initial SSRI withdrawal!  

 

Just going to ride this out...thanks.

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WiggleIt

What kind of moron doctor gave you cipro?  I thought that was well known by now to be a no-no, unless for a life or death infection!!!

 

Somebody gave it to me in 2008 for a UTI, then again in 2010 for a suspected UTI, but the side effects were so bad in 2010 that I stopped it.  Plus, I didn't have a UTI at all and my doctor was a moron and a butcher. 

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