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Cheeky

Thank god for a site like this, I feel like I have been going crazy for the last few years .
I'm going to try to keep this short and sweet.
I was put on Paxil when I was a teenager as my doctor thought it would help me get through some difficult years, counseling would of been a much better approach.
I was sexually abused as a child but never told anybody so when I was a teenager I dealt with this by using recreational drugs to ease the pain . My parents thought it would be a quick fix being on an antidepressant to help me out.
I used Paxil for years upping and lowering my dose from 20mg to 50mg as needed , thinking that I had to take them because I had a chemical imbalance . I never thought once coming of them or did I know the bad effects they can do to you.
Only up until I had my last child three years ago everything changed.
I was taking only 30mg of Paxil which my psychiatrist told me it would be fine for the baby . I had to have an emergency cesarean and had complications. I got a servers infection and that brought on my first panic attack and severe aniexty. My baby was going withdrawal from Paxil shaking and wouldn't sleep . The nurses was giving me strong painkillers that I think was making me worse , after 2 weeks in the maternity hospital I was then put in a mothers and baby unit at mental hospital . I only lasted a day as didn't won't to harm myself or my child , I just wanted this
aniexty to stop ,I was constantly worrying and looking at it now my hormones would have been all over the place. I upped my medication to highest dose under my psychiatrist advice. I felt better in a few weeks.
A year later I thought I was doing fine and lowered my dose and I crashed, couldn't eat waves of aniexty , agitation, dizziness, insomnia ,derealization and night sweats the list goes on. My psychiatrist then put me on Seraquel at night which seemed to work, but I was getting up in the middle of the night eating like crazy and then couldn't get up in the morning. So I stopped taking the 25mg of Seraquel. Back to my psychiatrist I went and he told me that he thought it would be a good idea to change to another antidepressant, his chose was Cymbalta and he wanted me to tapper my Paxil in 5 days and 3 days with nothing then start with 30mg of Cymbalta for 1 week 60mg for two weeks then 90mg for 2 weeks. I crashed very bad into my 2nd week in Cymbalta and went to see my psychiatrist again, who told me its my aniexty and depression coming back, which now I know is bullsh*t. I think I was having withdrawals from the Paxil .
I went to a new psychiatrist who told me it was Cymbalta that was doing it to me and tapered me off Cymbalta again in a week and started me at 50mg of Zoloft for 3 days 75mg 3 days and now 100mg as well as still taking my 50mg of Seraquel.
I feel like I won't to come off all of this and I know my family and friends aren't going to support me, as they don't understand. I halved my dose of Seraquel to 25mg 4 nights ago and my waves of aniexty are getting worse . I would love meet people on this site who can help me out with this. I have two beautiful children that are my life and I just want to be normal again and I think I would be better if a gave my brain a chance to heal itself but I'm very scared.

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Ever

Omg Cheeky what a story!   A moderator will be along before too long to give you great advice.   I'm very glad you found this site!   Welcome :)

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Cheeky

I know it sounds crazy and I'm only 38 years old. I just need to know how to do this , currently I'm on 100mg of Zoloft and 50mg of Seraquel and for the last 5 nights I have tapered my Seraquel to 25mg. Now I'm feeling more anxious . I'm sure this site can help me out. I'm feeling worse then when I was on 50mg of Paxil with 25mg of the Seraquel. These waves of aniexty aren't normal , last few days I carn't even eat and I'm up till late trying to get to sleep.

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Cheeky

I stopped taking 50 mg of Paxil 3 months ago as my doctor thought it wasn't working for me anymore , since then I was on Cymbalta 70mg for 6 weeks which was hell and now on 100mgof Zoloft as well as 25mg of Seraquel. The last week I have been getting worse . I'm okay for a few hours then I get this wave of aniexty through my body, tingling through my arms and legs , slight ringing in ears, feeling hard to breath, slightly nauseous and racing thoughts.

I don't know if is because I started to halve my dose of Seraquel to 25mg the last 6 days or am I withdrawing from Paxil still. I need help I don't now what to do and I'm to scared to go to the doctor as he will just tell me I need more drugs , when I know I'm like the because of them .

I really need your advice

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coldturkmama

I stopped taking 50 mg of Paxil 3 months ago as my doctor thought it wasn't working for me anymore , since then I was on Cymbalta 70mg for 6 weeks which was hell and now on 100mgof Zoloft as well as 25mg of Seraquel. The last week I have been getting worse . I'm okay for a few hours then I get this wave of aniexty through my body, tingling through my arms and legs , slight ringing in ears, feeling hard to breath, slightly nauseous and racing thoughts.

I don't know if is because I started to halve my dose of Seraquel to 25mg the last 6 days or am I withdrawing from Paxil still. I need help I don't now what to do and I'm to scared to go to the doctor as he will just tell me I need more drugs , when I know I'm like the because of them .

I really need your advice

 

if he just STOPPED your paxil cold turkey than yes, you're in withdrawal by the sounds of it.  I stopped paxil cold turkey when I didn't know any better and I had been on it 14 yrs.  WD is bad, but cold turkey WD is worse. It's been 14 months for me, the absolute worst of it was in month 4-6 I believe, but none of it is easy or fun. 

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Frustrated

Oh dear I am sorry you are going through this.  My son is tapering Seroquel and I can tell you he eats constantly as well.  Has put on a good deal of weight.  I am six months off Paxil.  A mod will help you taper safely.  They will be around shortly to help you.  Glad you found this site.  Welcome.

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Cheeky

I'm taking 100mg of Zoloft, so it is in the same family, an ssri, so do you still think it is withdrawals from Paxil.

I won't to get off everything I just need to know what's happening to me . I feel like I'm going crazy.

I don't trust doctors and feel at s lose.

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Cheeky

Thanks frustrated, if I didn't have my children I wouldn't care, I just won't my life back. I have lost all respect for doctors and even the mentall health system.

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Altostrata

Welcome, Cheeky.

 

Did these symptoms start after you reduced your Seroquel dosage to 25mg?

 

You can have withdrawal syndrome from one antidepressant even if you've switched to another. Going on and off drugs over the years might have made your nervous system more sensitive, too.

 

How long did your baby have withdrawal syndrome? How is the child now?

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Petunia

Welcome Cheeky,

 

I merged your two topics together, its one intro thread per member, you can use this thread as your ongoing journal to track progress and communicate with the community, add to it whenever you want.

 

I'm sorry to hear about everything you have been through, its not surprising you are feeling the way you are with all those recent drug changes. How were you feeling before you reduced your seroquel dose?

 

We suggest reducing by no more than 10% of the current dose every 4 weeks, this reduces the risk of withdrawal symptoms arising. 

  

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?  (The general philosophy of gradual tapering)

 

Once you get back to us with a few more details, we will be in a better position to offer support and suggestions.

 

Petu

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Cheeky

I wasn't as bad 1 1week ago, I think it has started to get worse since I halved my Seraquel dose . what should I do ?

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Songbird

Unfortunately the various different SSRIs and SNRIs do not always cover for each other.  Some people are able to switch, but for many it does not work well.  I'm wondering whether a reinstatement of Paxil is a possibility since you've only been off it for a couple of months.  It could take a while to restabilise but might be worth trying to prevent long-term w/d problems.

 

If you have got worse since cutting your Seroquel dose, it might be a good idea to go back up so you are not adding Seroquel withdrawal on top of your Paxil withdrawal.  Before tapering anything, the immediate goal should be to get stable.

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Cheeky

I think maybe up my Seraquel to 50mg like I was on only a week ago and then I should think then about my options . I didn't think you could get withdrawal effects on being on something for only 6 weeks. Seraquel wa given to me to help with sleep while i started this new drug Zoloft

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Songbird

It may or may not be Seroquel w/d per se, but your system is currently quite unstable, so a big change in dose might have upset it, if you see what I mean.  Is there any possibility of your reinstating the Paxil at this point?

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ladybug

I would probably attempt to switch back to Paxil too. Your signature implies you were on it for 19 years. I've been on Paxil almost 17 years, and I can't imagine the hell I'd be going through if I attempted to switch all of a sudden. It's no wonder you are feeling as bad as you do. It really is a tough call.

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Cheeky

But when I was on it , it started to not work at the max dose 50mg. I'm so upset today just so scared .

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Petunia

Cheeky,

 

I suggest you reinstate back to 50mg of seroquel and then hold everything else just as it is at the moment. 

 

Here is some information about reinstatement please read though it carefully so then you will know what to expect. 

 

About reinstating and stabilizing to stop withdrawal symptoms

 

Take the same dose of your medications at the same time every day and wait until you stabilize.  It may take several weeks, or possibly several months.  But when you have stabilized, you can begin a proper, slow taper.  The more changes you keep making, the more unstable your nervous system is going to become.

 

Here is the link to our symptoms and self care section, you may find some useful ideas to help manage symptoms as you wait to stabilize.  Especially read the topics pinned at the top.

 

If you're not having an adverse reaction from the other medications, taper the most activating drug first. This is usually an antidepressant, see:

 

Taking multiple psych drugs? Taper the antidepressant first!
 

 

When you are ready you can start a safe taper off Zoloft, here are our tips for tapering off it:

 

Tips for tapering off Zoloft (sertraline)
http://survivinganti...oft-sertraline/

 

Try not to worry, you will start to feel better, its just going to take some time for things to settle down again.

 

Petu.

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Cheeky

So basically take the 50mg of Seraquel and stabilize then what happens with the Zoloft and Paxil ?

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Petunia

We generally recommend tapering from the drug you are currently on, in your case, this is Zoloft, so if you are wanting to come off all your medications, I would suggest giving yourself as much time as you need to become stable again, and then begin a slow safe taper off Zoloft.  Please read through the links I have posted, these will answer a lot of your questions and help you get a clearer understanding.

 

It sounds like you were starting to feel better a week ago, before you reduced the seroquel, so I'm confident you will start to feel better again if you give it enough time.

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Songbird

We generally recommend tapering from the drug you are currently on, in your case, this is Zoloft

Yes, but she has only been on Zoloft a few weeks and may not stabilise on it if it does not cover the Paxil w/d.  She was on Paxil 17 years and has only been off two months.  P-doc was trying Cymbalta and then Zoloft to try to treat the Paxil w/d.  Reinstating a small dose might be enough to alleviate the worst of the w/d.  Also, I know you generally recommend tapering the SSRI first, but she has only been on Seroquel a few weeks, and it is a nasty drug, I wouldn't recommend staying on that long-term while trying to taper an SSRI.

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Cheeky

Omg I don't know what to do , it's been around 3 months since I last took Paxil and I have been taking 50mg of Seraquel at night while I hVe tried the Cymbalta and now on Zoloft . If I hang in there and wait till these WD finished how long will I have to wait ? and then when I'm better I can come of the Zoloft ( I just don't know ) I have to be there for my children . I just hate this

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Songbird

If going back on Paxil is not an option for you, then stay on the Zoloft.  Every time you make changes it can confuse your system, you're aiming for stability.  Unfortunately nobody can tell you how long this will take, it's an individual thing.  Also keep your Seroquel dose stable for now, that can be tapered sometime in the future when you're ready.

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Cheeky

I'm going back to my doctor tomorrow and will tell him how I feel. If he says its me not the Paxil withdrawal , then I'm on my own in this. I don't want another drug or to up my Zoloft it will just make things worse in the long run.

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Petunia

Hi Cheeky, I'm sorry you are going through this, but try not to worry, you will eventually stabilize if you don't make any more changes.  At the moment, the seroquel is probably helping you to sleep.  Sleep is good.

 

Sadly, most doctors don’t have a clue.

 

See: What to expect from my doctor

 

Do let us know how your appt goes, you are not alone in this, we are here to support you.  I agree that more drugs or increasing doses are not going to help.

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Wildflower0214

Hey there,

 

Wishing you the best. I was broken-hearted about the description of your child going through Paxil withdrawals. How long did the withdrawal last for your baby? How is the child now?

 

Hoping for peace and healing for you.

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Cheeky

My baby at the time had tremors and would shake for a week and a nurse asked me if I had been on a antidepressant, as she had seen a lot of babies like that. All my doctors knew I was on a antidepressant but never told me anything. My son if fine know a healthy little boy, thank god.

These withdrawal symptoms I'm having are like waves. One minute I'm crying then I have tingling sensations through my body and extreme anxious. I can't look at food and have no appetite, dizzy, confused the list goes on. I just can't believe no doctors can help this is crazy and that's how I feel now.

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Songbird

I'm going back to my doctor tomorrow and will tell him how I feel. If he says its me not the Paxil withdrawal , then I'm on my own in this. I don't want another drug or to up my Zoloft it will just make things worse in the long run.

 

Unless it is back to Paxil, there is no point in trying another drug.  I've seen people post how their doc tried to switch them to drug A, then B, then C in desperate attempts to find the magic pill, all the time making even more confusion in their poor nervous system.  Stay strong, whatever the doc says you know it is w/d, not you!  If the doc refuses to entertain the idea of w/d, just smile and nod, but don't let them push any other weird and wonderful drugs at you.

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Wildflower0214

My baby at the time had tremors and would shake for a week and a nurse asked me if I had been on a antidepressant, as she had seen a lot of babies like that. All my doctors knew I was on a antidepressant but never told me anything. My son if fine know a healthy little boy, thank god.

These withdrawal symptoms I'm having are like waves. One minute I'm crying then I have tingling sensations through my body and extreme anxious. I can't look at food and have no appetite, dizzy, confused the list goes on. I just can't believe no doctors can help this is crazy and that's how I feel now.

Oh! Bless his sweet little heart!! ???? I'm so happy he is healthy. I'm so happy you found us. Yes, symptoms come in waves, very unpredictable and unnerving to say the least.

 

You just stay strong. Again, welcome. We are glad you are here.

 

In response to your comment about doctors...they are largely ignorant about withdrawal. They seem to compound the problem and make it worse unfortunately.

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Cheeky

Yep, I'm going to beat this and am so glad I found you guys .

I will see what the dr say tomorrow

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Wildflower0214

Yep, I'm going to beat this and am so glad I found you guys .

I will see what the dr say tomorrow

Hold your nerve with the Dr. It's hard, but you can do it!! We believe YOU!

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Cheeky

Thankyou everyone, your support makes me cry

, that compete strangers understand what I'm going through and my family and Drs don't .

I hope the best for all of us.

When something like this happens you realize how important your life is and how much you want it back.

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Cheeky

I feel so disheartened, I just went to see the psychiatrist , and he told me my symptoms are physiological, and that I wouldn't get withdrawal from Paxil as I have been on Zoloft for 6 weeks . He recommended to increase my Zoloft to 125mg and said it was okay not to take the seraquel at night. He gave me s script for melatonin and said I can take that instead.

He then spent 15 minutes drawing s diagraph explaining that I do have a chemical unbalance .

I'm so upset and confused I don't know what to do.

I don't want to be on anything it's bullsh*t I hate this.

First thing I'm going to do is stop the Seraquel . What do you advise , I feel lost .

Help please

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Songbird

Unfortunately this kind of reaction from psychiatrists is not at all uncommon.  They are full of misinformation.  The melatonin sounds like a reasonable idea, though.  You may be able to use that to help your sleep while you slowly taper off the Seroquel.  I do recommend tapering the Seroquel, not stopping it cold turkey.  I think right now it might be best not to change anything, take your current doses for a while to let your system have some consistency and give it a chance at some stability.  As well as the paxil w/d, your system may still be feeling the Seroquel drop you did, you might want to give it some time to recover from that.

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Cheeky

I think I'm going to keep what im doing 25mg Seraquel at night and the original 100of Zoloft for a couple of weeks then slowly reduce the Seraquel .

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Ever

Cheeky - so sorry you had to go through that with the psych.   They are so misinformed.   Very glad you are with us :)  

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Cheeky

Just a question because know I'm starting to worry today , could I be withdrawing from Paxil even through I was on it 3 months ago considering I have been on Zoloft for 6 weeks that are in the same family ?

Last night I felt good now I feel very anxious and constantly worrying.

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