ScottishLass Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 @Cheeky thank you for your kind response on my thread. Take care SL Prozac 60mg ( 1998-2014). Also between (1998-2000) Short instances on Lithium, Risperidone, Quetiapine, Lamictal. Off all antipsychotics in (2000). Prozac stopped and switched Duloxetine(2014-Feb 2021) - after failed withdrawal from Prozac- misdiagnosed as 'Relap 2015 - approx 3 mths Lamictal Duloxetine:(Feb 21) Tapered from 60mg of Duloxetine over approx 6wks. (8th April 2021) Reinstat Duloxetine (1mg) 16/05: Updose Duloxetine (2mg) 6mg Diazepam prn 20/06: stopped Duloxetine. Started On 10mg Fluoxetine. 12/07: Updose 20mg 6/08: Switch to liquid fluox 4.5ml/18mg. 20/09: 4ml/16mg Supplements:Omega,Vit D. Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 17 hours ago, brassmonkey said: Support isn't all about giving information and advise. The relief new members get just by knowing that they are not alone and not crazy is amazing. Just going on a persons thread and saying "Hi, I was thinking about you today" goes a long ways. When we are in the thick of it ADWD is a very self absorbed, personal journey that required our full attention, leaving us with less than nothing to give back. It is all part of the process and we all go through it. That is where the concept of "pay it forward" comes in. You may not be in a position to be supportive ATM, but as you progress and start to feel better slowly reaching out to others can greatly improve how you feel. As the journey requires it we take what we need when we need it and give back what we can when we can. As for the amount of information here, it can be overpowering. I learn something new almost every day. Helping you make sense of it all is what the moderators and mentors are here for. That’s very true. @brassmonkey you really are one special person to volunteer your time in helping others . Your wife must be so proud and you should show her this message. Thankyou for all you do and answering my questions when I’m in a wave and not thinking straight . Your guidance has truly saved me while in despair. God bless you. 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted August 20, 2021 Mentor Share Posted August 20, 2021 Hi, @Cheeky How are you doing? It feels like forever since we really connected. Everything okay? https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 5 hours ago, Greatful said: Hi, @Cheeky How are you doing? It feels like forever since we really connected. Everything okay? Hi @Greatful, ive been pretty busy helping my mother with the cleaning and cleaning out my own house. I’m staying positive and I have felt much better , but when I say that a wave comes , I don’t want to talk too soon. how are you been? 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted August 23, 2021 Mentor Share Posted August 23, 2021 @Cheeky It is nice to see you are hanging with mom........ It looks like the up dose is working 😊 Have a good day https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 6 hours ago, Greatful said: @Cheeky It is nice to see you are hanging with mom........ It looks like the up dose is working 😊 Have a good day Yeah it is, it just shows you what 1mg can do. I’m still not out of the woods yet as I still have my moments but nothing like the last few months. I really thought I would be permanently in WD forever, you can’t control the doom and gloom and it’s the most frightening thing someone has to indure but it does eventually get better. I know from this experience you can play around with this drugs and I will be micro tapering in the future. My kids need me and I don’t want to go back to that place again . I’m really scared of it and have decided to give my brain a break from tapering until next year. I know your going to get stable it just takes time and when you do don’t rush anything, that got me into this mess to start with. Your a strong lady @Greatful and you will survive this stronger then ever. Sending you my love 😍 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 9 hours ago, Greatful said: @Cheeky It is nice to see you are hanging with mom........ It looks like the up dose is working 😊 Have a good day Hello lovely, yes it has worked just that 1 mg has made a huge difference, it just shows you the power of 1 mg these drugs can cause. I feel so relieved but I am still scared of going back to that place again and have learnt a lot about this . I know to never rush things or get too confident, that’s what zi was doing the last few drops and it all fought up to me . I’m definitely going to enjoy this stability and will give myself a break from tapering til next year. I’m going to do the brassmokey slide taper and just take my time and listen to my body. I really never thought I would be stable again and I’m a bit traumatised from it. I know for one thing everybody has the ability to get stable and you will too. It just takes time. You have been so wonderful helping me through this and I will support you the best I can . Thankyou for always dropping by to see how I am, I truly appreciate it. ❤️❤️❤️ 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 Just an update…. I feel like I have finally reached stability and feels so good to enjoy things again . I have learnt not to rushed these cuts and to listen to my body, I know there were signs but I just ignored it as I was so hoping to get to 12.5mg but I crashed and maybe that was a learning point. Im giving my CNS a break for a while and then start tapering again Thankyou @Colonial @Rusty1 @brassmonkey @Greatful for all your guidance and support 🥰 2 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg Link to comment
Paquita Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 That is good news @Cheeky ! And you have been on such a long journey already. Hang in there. 3 1996 - Paroxetine 20 mg 2019 - Start taper Paroxetine 2021 June - tapered till 5 mg Severe withdrawal symptoms 2021 July - added Fluoxetine 10 mg Lorazepam 0.5 mg when needed 2021 Aug - Further tapering Paroxetine Fast taper 5mg-0mg in 6 weeks plan 2021 Aug 6 - Fluoxetine increase to 15 mg 2021 Aug 14 - down to Paroxetine 3 mg / [taper in 0.1 steps] to Sep 1 - Paroxetine 1 mg / Sep 16 Paroxetine 0mg [2 weeks taper in 0.1 mg steps] Supplements: Multivitamine 1 daily, Omega 3-6-9 one every other day, Vit. D every day (had deficiency) Link to comment
Kat66 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Cheeky said: I feel like I have finally reached stability How do you know when you’ve reached stability @Cheeky and what does it feel like? History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD. 1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac.2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019. 01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June. 25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp. 11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg. 16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg. 2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg. 8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg 1/11/22 1.1mg 3/3/23 1mg 18/4/23 0.9mg 2/6/23 0.8mg 4/10/23 0.7mg 11/11/23 jumped off @0.7mg started on 5htp 200mg -400mg, L-Theanine, and L-tyrosine 200mg. 25/11/23 came off 5-htp, l-tyrosine and l-Theanine. 24/12/23 went on 7.5mg mirtazapine. 27/12/23 stopped mirtazapine & reinstated citalopram @.35mg. 1/1/24 increased to 0.5mg. PTSD diagnosis October 2023. 11/11/23 started EMDR therapy for PTSD. Multiple unsuccessful attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; tapering off combined HRT. Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, vegan omega3. Completely OFF caffeine (since July 21). Finding it difficult to completely give up alcohol but haven’t had any since 25/12/23. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, intrusive thoughts, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia Link to comment
wantrelief Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Cheeky said: I feel like I have finally reached stability and feels so good to enjoy things again I am very happy to read this, Cheeky! You hung in there bravely and it payed off. I am really glad you are feeling better. As a side note, @Paquita: I love the "encourage mint" - so cute! Enjoy feeling good again, Cheeky! 💜 -1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper (essentially CT); withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD) -10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin after 4 mos. Several unsuccessful slow tapers of Zoloft; went up and down in dose a lot -Spring 2013 back on 1 mg Klonopin to counter WD symptoms; switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to 35 mg citalopram -Two attempts at slow tapering citalopram, always increased dose due to WD; also increased Klonopin to 1.25 mg in 2014, then to 1.5 mg in 2015 -8/17-9/17: After holding one year at 20 mg, feeling withdrawal symptoms due to stress - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?) - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg). Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin Citalopram taper: 2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg I 2022: 5.2 mg - 3.36 mg I 2023: 3.3 mg - 1.47 mg 2024: 1/5/24: 1.44 mg; 1/19/24: 1.40 mg; 1/26/24: 1.37 mg; 2/2/24: 1.34 mg; 2/9/24: 1.31 mg; 2/23/24: 1.28 mg; 3/1/24: 1.25 mg; 3/8/24: 1.22 mg; 3/15/24: 1.19 mg; 3/29/24: 1.17 mg; 4/5/24: 1.14 mg; 4/13/24: 1.11 mg; 4/20/24: 1.09 mg Link to comment
Rusty1 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 6 hours ago, Cheeky said: Just an update…. I feel like I have finally reached stability and feels so good to enjoy things again . I have learnt not to rushed these cuts and to listen to my body, I know there were signs but I just ignored it as I was so hoping to get to 12.5mg but I crashed and maybe that was a learning point. Im giving my CNS a break for a while and then start tapering again Thankyou @Colonial @Rusty1 @brassmonkey @Greatful for all your guidance and support 🥰 Congratulations! Try not to be alarmed if there are any small bumps along the way, but it sounds like you waded through the worst of it! Good idea to hold and you will be fine when you start tapering again. I agree that it can build a panic disorder. After I experienced a traumatizing wave, any smaller waves made me very anxious. Listen to your body and remember you now have the proof it does get better! 40 yo Male. Started Paxil about 15 years ago. 10 mg (pill weight .125 - .129 g). 5 yrs wanted less side effects, doctor took me off Paxil over couple week period and put me on Wellbutrin. Not good. Went back on Paxil. Relieved my symptoms, but didn't work as well and more side effects. Severe reaction between Paxil and Zomig Summer of 2012. Head was affected during warmer days (cloudiness, confusion, pressure). Began 10% withdrawal 10/24/12. Withdrawel helped many symptoms, but also added side effects: nausea, dizziness, tiredness. Hyper-anxiety started January 2014. Went through a 2 year period of de-realization (2016-2018). Rarely any windows. Current dose: 0.00 as of 4/10/21. Made a lot of progress in my withdrawal symptoms the last 2 years of my taper. I think doing a liquid taper helped stabilize things on the lower doses. A lot of my symptoms have reduced significantly. Hoping for even more improvement now that I am off. My thread: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/8909-rusty1-paxil-withdrawal-help-and-advice-welcome/#entry150222 Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 8 hours ago, Kat66 said: How do you know when you’ve reached stability @Cheeky and what does it feel like? Hey Kate, stability means to me no withdrawal symptoms. I never had aniexty it depression before I took these drugs so that’s why I know it’s withdrawal . All the times I tried coming off my antidepressants before I found this site, I thought I had developed an illness while on them, I never knew that what was happening was withdrawal symptoms. If only I knew 😕doctors would tell me it’s my underlying illness that’s why I need to take drugs but I could never work that out. How the he’ll do you develop an illness while on them. so basically stability means waking up feeling calm and no withdrawal symptoms. I am due to my periods in a few days so that can make he feel worse but the usual symptoms . 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg Link to comment
Kat66 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 You weren’t prescribed Paxil for anxiety and depression? 😮 What were you prescribed it for? And now you’re having to suffer through WD!! History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD. 1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac.2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019. 01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June. 25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp. 11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg. 16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg. 2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg. 8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg 1/11/22 1.1mg 3/3/23 1mg 18/4/23 0.9mg 2/6/23 0.8mg 4/10/23 0.7mg 11/11/23 jumped off @0.7mg started on 5htp 200mg -400mg, L-Theanine, and L-tyrosine 200mg. 25/11/23 came off 5-htp, l-tyrosine and l-Theanine. 24/12/23 went on 7.5mg mirtazapine. 27/12/23 stopped mirtazapine & reinstated citalopram @.35mg. 1/1/24 increased to 0.5mg. PTSD diagnosis October 2023. 11/11/23 started EMDR therapy for PTSD. Multiple unsuccessful attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; tapering off combined HRT. Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, vegan omega3. Completely OFF caffeine (since July 21). Finding it difficult to completely give up alcohol but haven’t had any since 25/12/23. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, intrusive thoughts, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 24, 2021 Author Share Posted August 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, Kat66 said: You weren’t prescribed Paxil for anxiety and depression? 😮 What were you prescribed it for? And now you’re having to suffer through WD!! It really wasn’t depression , I was partying a lot and used recreational drugs for fun. I had a lot of insecurities growing up , would act out and I hated myself for that , that would lead me to crying and my parents taking me to a doctor for help. What I went through , now thinking about it , was normal hormonal issues a 14 to 17 years old would have and taking drugs didn’t help . A good therapist would’ve been a better option. 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted August 24, 2021 Mentor Share Posted August 24, 2021 @Cheeky How was your day? https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 24, 2021 Author Share Posted August 24, 2021 7 hours ago, Greatful said: @Cheeky How was your day? Yeah going all good, I’m relieved . Had my Pfizer vaccine yesterday, very sore but that’s about it. I can’t believe what your WD brain can do to your thought process. I was so scared of getting this vaccine done thinking it will give me more withdrawal symptoms and it didn’t . This experience has taught me that my thoughts and feeling while in WD are overly exaggerated. Four weeks ago I thought my life was over and would never be the same, I was even thinking about having to sell my house and stop working, this should show people we do eventually stabilise even though we don’t think of it at the time. 1 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted August 24, 2021 Mentor Share Posted August 24, 2021 @Cheeky You sound so much better. 😚 What a relief. The pain of WD is horrendously awful. yes we do have very distorted thinking when in WD You do know that I am still thinking distortedly 😆 Don't leave meeeeeee. 🙃 https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 24, 2021 Author Share Posted August 24, 2021 27 minutes ago, Greatful said: @Cheeky You sound so much better. 😚 What a relief. The pain of WD is horrendously awful. yes we do have very distorted thinking when in WD You do know that I am still thinking distortedly 😆 Don't leave meeeeeee. 🙃 I will never leave you 😇you can’t get rid me that easily. You just have to realise all your thoughts while in WD is not how it’s going to be. Your amazingly strong and have had so many changes in your meds that your poor brain is fighting hard for stability. Your going to get there , there no doubt about it you just have to go with the motions . 1 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg Link to comment
Kat66 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 10:26 AM, Cheeky said: What I went through , now thinking about it , was normal hormonal issues a 14 to 17 years old would have and taking drugs didn’t help . A good therapist would’ve been a better option. OMG that's bloody awful! And paxil is one of the worst to come off by all accounts! History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD. 1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac.2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019. 01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June. 25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp. 11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg. 16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg. 2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg. 8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg 1/11/22 1.1mg 3/3/23 1mg 18/4/23 0.9mg 2/6/23 0.8mg 4/10/23 0.7mg 11/11/23 jumped off @0.7mg started on 5htp 200mg -400mg, L-Theanine, and L-tyrosine 200mg. 25/11/23 came off 5-htp, l-tyrosine and l-Theanine. 24/12/23 went on 7.5mg mirtazapine. 27/12/23 stopped mirtazapine & reinstated citalopram @.35mg. 1/1/24 increased to 0.5mg. PTSD diagnosis October 2023. 11/11/23 started EMDR therapy for PTSD. Multiple unsuccessful attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; tapering off combined HRT. Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, vegan omega3. Completely OFF caffeine (since July 21). Finding it difficult to completely give up alcohol but haven’t had any since 25/12/23. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, intrusive thoughts, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 26, 2021 Author Share Posted August 26, 2021 10 hours ago, Kat66 said: OMG that's bloody awful! And paxil is one of the worst to come off by all accounts! Yeah I know that, that what worries me. 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 26, 2021 Author Share Posted August 26, 2021 OMG, I thought this site went down and went into panic mode. I seriously wouldn’t know what to do without this website. Thankyou God 👋🏼 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg Link to comment
thenextguy Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Just now, Cheeky said: OMG, I thought this site went down and went into panic mode. I seriously wouldn’t know what to do without this website. Thankyou God 👋🏼 Same! 😁 -Since 2017-ish I've been on Cymbalta & Mirtazapine. At max dose it was 120mg cymbalta and 45mg mirtazapine. This combo was meant to deal with a depressive episode and it worked. Over the next few years I tapered down from those high doses. I had tried to get off the cymbalta twice and had to reinstate twice. I don't remember when. Maybe 2018? 2019? -Since 2020 I've been stable 20mg cymbalta and 7.5mg mirtazapine (this is mainly for sleep now). I have come off of the mirtazapine before without trouble, but still take it occasionally for sleep. -August 2nd began taking 10mg prozac as a bridge to attempt to get off cymbalta. Took 10mg for about a week then 20mg for a few days. Stopped taking the cymbalta and was doing okay for a bit, but things didn't seem to get better and maybe have been getting worse. -8/25/2021 - 20mg cymbalta and struggling. Stopped the prozac. I'm struggling, but I can probably ride this out if I had to. My concern is that things will continue to get worse, as they seem to be doing. -8/29/2021 - things started to get worse. Probably prozac withdrawal. Reinstated 20mg prozac. -9/2/2021 - 20mg cymbalta, 5mg prozac, 7.5 mg mirtazapine --> 9/24/2021 - 20mg cymbalta, 5mg prozac, 3.75 mg mirtazapine --> 11/7/2021 - 20mg cymbalta, 3.75mg prozac, 3.75 mg mirtazapine --> 4/24/2022 - 20mg cymbalta, 3.75mg prozac --> 6/5/2022 - 20mg cymbalta, 3.33mg prozac Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 26, 2021 Author Share Posted August 26, 2021 Just now, thenextguy said: Same! 😁 Good I’m not the only one. 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted August 26, 2021 Mentor Share Posted August 26, 2021 @Cheeky I was a little worried 1 hour ago, Cheeky said: I seriously wouldn’t know what to do without this website. I think all of us would be lost and feel very alone...... https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Kat66 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Cheeky said: OMG, I thought this site went down and went into panic mode. I seriously wouldn’t know what to do without this website. Thankyou God 👋🏼 Same here! I wonder what happened? Big pharma hacking SA because we're all slagging off their products? History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD. 1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac.2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019. 01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June. 25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp. 11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg. 16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg. 2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg. 8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg 1/11/22 1.1mg 3/3/23 1mg 18/4/23 0.9mg 2/6/23 0.8mg 4/10/23 0.7mg 11/11/23 jumped off @0.7mg started on 5htp 200mg -400mg, L-Theanine, and L-tyrosine 200mg. 25/11/23 came off 5-htp, l-tyrosine and l-Theanine. 24/12/23 went on 7.5mg mirtazapine. 27/12/23 stopped mirtazapine & reinstated citalopram @.35mg. 1/1/24 increased to 0.5mg. PTSD diagnosis October 2023. 11/11/23 started EMDR therapy for PTSD. Multiple unsuccessful attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; tapering off combined HRT. Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, vegan omega3. Completely OFF caffeine (since July 21). Finding it difficult to completely give up alcohol but haven’t had any since 25/12/23. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, intrusive thoughts, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia Link to comment
92sharks Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 @Cheeky You asked about meditation. I have an all-or-nothing thought process that is ever paralyzing. I am learning one small step is beneficial and much less overwhelming. I knew meditation would be helpful, but I didn't know how to do it so I googled it. The site I found said to just sit comfortably and focus on your breathing, starting at just 5-10 minutes. It said just continue to refocus on your breathing whenever your mind strays. It has been pretty comical. I set a timer for 10 minutes, sit as comfortably as I can (a cushion under the back 1/2 of my buttocks helps my back), and try to focus on just regular breathes~in and out. I sometimes manage to get in one breath in and out before my mind wanders. I then just refocus. During the 10 minutes, it is a CONSTANT refocusing every breath or two. It feels counterproductive to even bother, except it is, I believe helping somewhat. For one thing it has taught me how nutty my brain is, in that I am constantly searching (racing) for something to think about, be concerned about, worry about, plan, fix, be bothered by, wonder about, tell someone, do, remember to do, beat myself up about, etc, etc. I've learned that my mind is a runaway train. Once I started "meditating" I became aware that this is what my brain does all day long. I have noticed over the course of a couple of weeks of meditating that I am more aware of this racing behavior at other times, such as when trying to go to sleep or when awake in the night. I think meditating has benefitted in that I am not as willing to follow these thoughts down the hole and ruminate. I can't seem to prevent them from arriving, but I am better able to not take them as something I need to focus on. I'm able to decide I don't need to pay attention to them if I don't want to. There is a portion of my thoughts/consciousness that is at peace and another portion where all these things are racing trying to get me to concentrate on them. But the consciousness that is at peace is like a foundation and I can feel it. I think it is from the attempts to meditate. The constant realization that the monkey thoughts are trying to take over and stay in control, yet I can at least for one breath fend them off and not feel them is wonderful. I am striving to get to two breaths where they don't invade my thoughts. It is a goal. I thought there was something wrong with me not being able to clear my mind to meditate. But I realize now that it is a process and a learning experience. I am trying to meditate 10 minutes a day, every day just to be in the habit and for any healing to be allowed to grow. I do love guided meditations and think they are wonderful. In a guided meditation your are thinking of something else. But for me, right now, I need not the vacation of a guided meditation, but the challenge of getting to two breathes without the intrusive monkey thoughts interrupting. I think both types of meditation are beneficial, but for me each has a different purpose. 1999 began Wellbutrin, and Zoloft, then off both, tried Lexapro, then eventually Effexor XR 2009 slowly weaned self off Effexor XR experienced 7 months of withdrawal syndrome, became suicidal 2010 went on Prozac (dose ?), then off Prozac (agitation/anxiety), resumed Effexor XR 2010-2014 titrated up to Effexor XR 150mg and Effexor 37.5mg 2014-2018 have been on this dose for 4 years~Effexor EX 150mg and Effexor 37.5mg (Total 188mg) January 22, 2018, began decreasing dose of Effexor 37.5mg (Continuing 150mg dose unchanged) February 19, 2018 Effexor XR 150mg + 29 balls of Effexor 37.5mg capsule (29mg?????) x 2 days August 15, 2020 Effexor ER 60mg x 5 months August 10, 2021 Effexor ER 10mg Experiencing vertigo since last taper (from 11 beads/?mg to 10 beads/?mg) 4 days ago. August 21, 2021 Vertigo gone 🥳(lasted 8 days) Will stay at 10 beads/?mg. July 1, 2022 Effexor 7 beads/?mg Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 26, 2021 Author Share Posted August 26, 2021 7 hours ago, Kat66 said: Same here! I wonder what happened? Big pharma hacking SA because we're all slagging off their products? That was my first thought. 1 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 26, 2021 Author Share Posted August 26, 2021 5 hours ago, 92sharks said: @Cheeky You asked about meditation. I have an all-or-nothing thought process that is ever paralyzing. I am learning one small step is beneficial and much less overwhelming. I knew meditation would be helpful, but I didn't know how to do it so I googled it. The site I found said to just sit comfortably and focus on your breathing, starting at just 5-10 minutes. It said just continue to refocus on your breathing whenever your mind strays. It has been pretty comical. I set a timer for 10 minutes, sit as comfortably as I can (a cushion under the back 1/2 of my buttocks helps my back), and try to focus on just regular breathes~in and out. I sometimes manage to get in one breath in and out before my mind wanders. I then just refocus. During the 10 minutes, it is a CONSTANT refocusing every breath or two. It feels counterproductive to even bother, except it is, I believe helping somewhat. For one thing it has taught me how nutty my brain is, in that I am constantly searching (racing) for something to think about, be concerned about, worry about, plan, fix, be bothered by, wonder about, tell someone, do, remember to do, beat myself up about, etc, etc. I've learned that my mind is a runaway train. Once I started "meditating" I became aware that this is what my brain does all day long. I have noticed over the course of a couple of weeks of meditating that I am more aware of this racing behavior at other times, such as when trying to go to sleep or when awake in the night. I think meditating has benefitted in that I am not as willing to follow these thoughts down the hole and ruminate. I can't seem to prevent them from arriving, but I am better able to not take them as something I need to focus on. I'm able to decide I don't need to pay attention to them if I don't want to. There is a portion of my thoughts/consciousness that is at peace and another portion where all these things are racing trying to get me to concentrate on them. But the consciousness that is at peace is like a foundation and I can feel it. I think it is from the attempts to meditate. The constant realization that the monkey thoughts are trying to take over and stay in control, yet I can at least for one breath fend them off and not feel them is wonderful. I am striving to get to two breaths where they don't invade my thoughts. It is a goal. I thought there was something wrong with me not being able to clear my mind to meditate. But I realize now that it is a process and a learning experience. I am trying to meditate 10 minutes a day, every day just to be in the habit and for any healing to be allowed to grow. I do love guided meditations and think they are wonderful. In a guided meditation your are thinking of something else. But for me, right now, I need not the vacation of a guided meditation, but the challenge of getting to two breathes without the intrusive monkey thoughts interrupting. I think both types of meditation are beneficial, but for me each has a different purpose. Thanks so much, this tends to happen to me when I try, I need to set a time where I can try. I think the mornings are good as that’s when things are more stressful. 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 26, 2021 Author Share Posted August 26, 2021 7 hours ago, Greatful said: @Cheeky I was a little worried I think all of us would be lost and feel very alone...... I was so distressed 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted August 27, 2021 Mentor Share Posted August 27, 2021 @CheekyI think it is a good idea to keep trying to meditate. It really does help to slow your thoughts down and how to not engage with them. I do both guided meditation and I use head space for more free lance meditation. Even if you have to redirect yourself over and over it still helps train your mind, it is like you are training you mind that you are in control of what you want to think about. Your thought are very controlling. Here are some helpful quotes from Mia1 The mind will never be able to cure the anxiety because it is causing it. You must shift your focus (attention) outside the mind. Your brain has convinced you that you must think about it. But it’s your brain that created problem so it will never fix it. 2 https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Greatful said: @CheekyI think it is a good idea to keep trying to meditate. It really does help to slow your thoughts down and how to not engage with them. I do both guided meditation and I use head space for more free lance meditation. Even if you have to redirect yourself over and over it still helps train your mind, it is like you are training you mind that you are in control of what you want to think about. Your thought are very controlling. Here are some helpful quotes from Mia1 The mind will never be able to cure the anxiety because it is causing it. You must shift your focus (attention) outside the mind. Your brain has convinced you that you must think about it. But it’s your brain that created problem so it will never fix it. Yeah I will give it a try. How are you ? 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 Update….. I’ve had my Pfizer vaccine tree days ago as well I got my Periods and it has brought me back into a wave. I just hate this and feel to deflated after feeling so good for a week. I know I have to ride this out and I will. I I really think this is going to be a long term battle. I need to stay positive. 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg Link to comment
Paquita Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 7 hours ago, Cheeky said: Update….. I’ve had my Pfizer vaccine tree days ago as well I got my Periods and it has brought me back into a wave. I just hate this and feel to deflated after feeling so good for a week. I know I have to ride this out and I will. I I really think this is going to be a long term battle. I need to stay positive. We can shake hands, I'm having off days again as well, after a tiny window, but am now on my period. So might explain it. The combination of WD and hormones = 🙀 1996 - Paroxetine 20 mg 2019 - Start taper Paroxetine 2021 June - tapered till 5 mg Severe withdrawal symptoms 2021 July - added Fluoxetine 10 mg Lorazepam 0.5 mg when needed 2021 Aug - Further tapering Paroxetine Fast taper 5mg-0mg in 6 weeks plan 2021 Aug 6 - Fluoxetine increase to 15 mg 2021 Aug 14 - down to Paroxetine 3 mg / [taper in 0.1 steps] to Sep 1 - Paroxetine 1 mg / Sep 16 Paroxetine 0mg [2 weeks taper in 0.1 mg steps] Supplements: Multivitamine 1 daily, Omega 3-6-9 one every other day, Vit. D every day (had deficiency) Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Paquita said: We can shake hands, I'm having off days again as well, after a tiny window, but am now on my period. So might explain it. The combination of WD and hormones = 🙀 I know it just sucks, it’s disappointing feeling like this again. 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg Link to comment
Kat66 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 14 hours ago, Cheeky said: it has brought me back into a wave. I just hate this and feel to deflated after feeling so good for a week. I know I have to ride this out and I will. I I really think this is going to be a long term battle. I need to stay positive. I'm so sorry you're in a wave again, you said you felt like you'd stabilised a bit recently. So that sucks. Thank you for checking in on me too by the way. It feels never ending this battle doesn't it? I'm glad we've all got each other - a lot of the time I don't think many people really understand what WD really is, and it can feel quite lonely trudging through it. History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD. 1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac.2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019. 01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June. 25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp. 11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg. 16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg. 2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg. 8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg 1/11/22 1.1mg 3/3/23 1mg 18/4/23 0.9mg 2/6/23 0.8mg 4/10/23 0.7mg 11/11/23 jumped off @0.7mg started on 5htp 200mg -400mg, L-Theanine, and L-tyrosine 200mg. 25/11/23 came off 5-htp, l-tyrosine and l-Theanine. 24/12/23 went on 7.5mg mirtazapine. 27/12/23 stopped mirtazapine & reinstated citalopram @.35mg. 1/1/24 increased to 0.5mg. PTSD diagnosis October 2023. 11/11/23 started EMDR therapy for PTSD. Multiple unsuccessful attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; tapering off combined HRT. Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, vegan omega3. Completely OFF caffeine (since July 21). Finding it difficult to completely give up alcohol but haven’t had any since 25/12/23. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, intrusive thoughts, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia Link to comment
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